It's Nearly all over for me - Franchise Cardiff FC

And with the Club flying over to look at f*cking LA Galaxy and bringing in A cartoonist who lives in the states it's only going to go one way further, Malaysian plastic owners with American influence get ready for popcorn sellers , razzmatazz , dancing pom poms and happy clappy dances , cosway advertising boards just the start of the new franchise reveloution to beam back to appease the far east.

And with the Club flying over to look at f*cking LA Galaxy and bringing in A cartoonist who lives in the states it's only going to go one way further, Malaysian plastic owners with American influence get ready for popcorn sellers , razzmatazz , dancing pom poms and happy clappy dances , cosway advertising boards just the start of the new franchise reveloution to beam back to appease the far east.

Its not just CCFC though is it ?

Top level football has moved in that direction across the board.

I guess we all get on and enjoy (endure ?) the ride or go and watch football further down the pyramid where there is more honesty and less bullshit.

Sadly Steve you are right.

The new stadium has a lot to answer for as does the Riddler regime. I used to love going to Ninian Park-the smell of piss, bovril, stale beer and benson and hedges and the way an atmosphere could suddenley be built with only 3000 people.

I miss turning up and paying on the gate or deciding on saturday morning that i'd travel away to some shithole like Sheffield or Bournemouth.

I guess it is called evolution. My best mate is a man ure fan (from just outside Manchester but now lives in Bath-nearer their fan base) and he used to go all the time but since Glazer and his cash cow he rarely goes.

Last week on the Bank Holiday Monday Salisbury City were playing Chippenham in a local derby. 1000 people were there-the football was of low quality with 100% honest semi pros. I paid at the turnstiles (£14 to stand for me and the 2 boys)and had a great time.

And with the Club flying over to look at f*cking LA Galaxy and bringing in A cartoonist who lives in the states it's only going to go one way further, Malaysian plastic owners with American influence get ready for popcorn sellers , razzmatazz , dancing pom poms and happy clappy dances , cosway advertising boards just the start of the new franchise reveloution to beam back to appease the far east.

Its not just CCFC though is it ?

Top level football has moved in that direction across the board.

I guess we all get on and enjoy (endure ?) the ride or go and watch football further down the pyramid where there is more honesty and less bullshit.

Your right Alfie , but top level is not watching jones hoof ball

Sadly Steve you are right.

The new stadium has a lot to answer for as does the Riddler regime. I used to love going to Ninian Park-the smell of piss, bovril, stale beer and benson and hedges and the way an atmosphere could suddenley be built with only 3000 people.

I miss turning up and paying on the gate or deciding on saturday morning that i'd travel away to some shithole like Sheffield or Bournemouth.

I guess it is called evolution. My best mate is a man ure fan (from just outside Manchester but now lives in Bath-nearer their fan base) and he used to go all the time but since Glazer and his cash cow he rarely goes.

Last week on the Bank Holiday Monday Salisbury City were playing Chippenham in a local derby. 1000 people were there-the football was of low quality with 100% honest semi pros. I paid at the turnstiles (£14 to stand for me and the 2 boys)and had a great time.

Gareth, again you hit the nail on the head, your have me in tears soon lol lol ..... If only we could turn the clock back lol.

I hate foreign owners myself too, they know f**k all , why don't they develop their own f*cking game instead of leaching and changing ours ? That's to all foreign owners not just here trouble is we know the real answer is simply money.

More fun watching Cowbridge town seniors than plastic franchise football. Can't see it happening too much in the Championship though only here and a few sides that come down and dont go back up.

I agree with you Daya, a few of my mates have walked away and I struggle to bring myself to home games despite being a season ticket. Many fans enjoy the new stadium or dont any better, I grew up on the terraces in the 80's doing away games in transit's paying on the turnstiles, loads of chants and songs now its not the same. Against Leeds I was chanting and singing and a lad around 16 turned around from the row in front and asked would I mind being quieter as I was annoying him!! lol and my fellow season ticket holders hardly break into a clap or chant. Its just not as I used to enjoy it . , Its a heartfelt post and Im with you,

My daughters love it to be fair, my son facking hates them, causes a right old banter in the house!

If you run your thoughts on some poxy tv show tim looking through keyholes - god help you mate! [/quote]


Steve, at the time he made the quote we were desperate, really desperate. It came out of his own mouth, after Sam came in for a while I thought maybe Sullivan was Langston. I didnt normally watch the show, but watched it only because HE was on there as a self confessed City fan.

'God help me' - well when Sullivan said he was coming back to bring us to glory, I really though God was helping us.

Anyway you mention your lad, how's his footy going now ?

Sadly Steve you are right.

The new stadium has a lot to answer for as does the Riddler regime. I used to love going to Ninian Park-the smell of piss, bovril, stale beer and benson and hedges and the way an atmosphere could suddenley be built with only 3000 people.

I miss turning up and paying on the gate or deciding on saturday morning that i'd travel away to some shithole like Sheffield or Bournemouth.

I guess it is called evolution. My best mate is a man ure fan (from just outside Manchester but now lives in Bath-nearer their fan base) and he used to go all the time but since Glazer and his cash cow he rarely goes.

Last week on the Bank Holiday Monday Salisbury City were playing Chippenham in a local derby. 1000 people were there-the football was of low quality with 100% honest semi pros. I paid at the turnstiles (£14 to stand for me and the 2 boys)and had a great time.

Gareth, again you hit the nail on the head, your have me in tears soon lol lol ..... If only we could turn the clock back lol.

I hate foreign owners myself too, they know f**k all , why don't they develop their own f*cking game instead of leaching and changing ours ? That's to all foreign owners not just here trouble is we know the real answer is simply money.

More fun watching Cowbridge town seniors than plastic franchise football. Can't see it happening too much in the Championship though only here and a few sides that come down and dont go back up.

Dont cry Steve-that'd be too new age.

On Jan 22nd my middle lad is mascot and my mum and dad will be at the ccs along with my 9 month old son, 12 yr old daughter and wife (it'll be mums 1st ever game aged 67 ). My dad got me into ccfc and he was a regular during 70s/80s before illness changed his priorities. His last ccfc game was v Sunderland in 2004 (4-0). I took the Mrs to NP on several occasions and she loved the atmosphere. It'll be interesting to see what they all make of our new arena/facilities.

Sadly Steve you are right.

The new stadium has a lot to answer for as does the Riddler regime. I used to love going to Ninian Park-the smell of piss, bovril, stale beer and benson and hedges and the way an atmosphere could suddenley be built with only 3000 people.

I miss turning up and paying on the gate or deciding on saturday morning that i'd travel away to some shithole like Sheffield or Bournemouth.

I guess it is called evolution. My best mate is a man ure fan (from just outside Manchester but now lives in Bath-nearer their fan base) and he used to go all the time but since Glazer and his cash cow he rarely goes.

Last week on the Bank Holiday Monday Salisbury City were playing Chippenham in a local derby. 1000 people were there-the football was of low quality with 100% honest semi pros. I paid at the turnstiles (£14 to stand for me and the 2 boys)and had a great time.

You liked 'the smell of piss'

You'd have loved the Vetch then.

And even more, the egg-chasing. East Terrace.

Sadly Steve you are right.

The new stadium has a lot to answer for as does the Riddler regime. I used to love going to Ninian Park-the smell of piss, bovril, stale beer and benson and hedges and the way an atmosphere could suddenley be built with only 3000 people.

I miss turning up and paying on the gate or deciding on saturday morning that i'd travel away to some shithole like Sheffield or Bournemouth.

I guess it is called evolution. My best mate is a man ure fan (from just outside Manchester but now lives in Bath-nearer their fan base) and he used to go all the time but since Glazer and his cash cow he rarely goes.

Last week on the Bank Holiday Monday Salisbury City were playing Chippenham in a local derby. 1000 people were there-the football was of low quality with 100% honest semi pros. I paid at the turnstiles (£14 to stand for me and the 2 boys)and had a great time.

You liked 'the smell of piss'

You'd have loved the Vetch then.

And even more, the egg-chasing. East Terrace.

There was just something special about NP. I know it was a shithole but that place had so many memories (not all good- i had season ticket in days of Durban for a start!).

My daughters love it to be fair, my son facking hates them, causes a right old banter in the house!

If you run your thoughts on some poxy tv show tim looking through keyholes - god help you mate!

Steve, at the time he made the quote we were desperate, really desperate. It came out of his own mouth, after Sam came in for a while I thought maybe Sullivan was Langston. I didnt normally watch the show, but watched it only because HE was on there as a self confessed City fan.

'God help me' - well when Sullivan said he was coming back to bring us to glory, I really though God was helping us.

Anyway you mention your lad, how's his footy going now ?[/quote]

A lot of it media hype mate

Although he made his move to help City and it was totally refuted as kumar and bob Phillips. Tried in self gain to mug him off.

So instead of blaming him you should focus elsewhere the deal was done and at the last moment they raised the stakes for self gain. That really is a fact mate but of course he was putting in Clive to run the show as he was the big huge city fan and still is today.

You can't blow chances like that when they come along, city did through greedy directors at the time!! So he did have a go but wasn't going to be mugged off for the privilege .

Georgie is fine thanks mate !

My daughters love it to be fair, my son facking hates them, causes a right old banter in the house!

If you run your thoughts on some poxy tv show tim looking through keyholes - god help you mate!

Steve, at the time he made the quote we were desperate, really desperate. It came out of his own mouth, after Sam came in for a while I thought maybe Sullivan was Langston. I didnt normally watch the show, but watched it only because HE was on there as a self confessed City fan.

'God help me' - well when Sullivan said he was coming back to bring us to glory, I really though God was helping us.

Anyway you mention your lad, how's his footy going now ?

A lot of it media hype mate

Although he made his move to help City and it was totally refuted as kumar and bob Phillips. Tried in self gain to mug him off.

So instead of blaming him you should focus elsewhere the deal was done and at the last moment they raised the stakes for self gain. That really is a fact mate but of course he was putting in Clive to run the show as he was the big huge city fan and still is today.

You can't blow chances like that when they come along, city did through greedy directors at the time!! So he did have a go but wasn't going to be mugged off for the privilege .

Georgie is fine thanks mate ![/quote]

Dont know the details of what happned then - no such thing as message boards in those days.

He had plenty of other chances Steve, and the wherewithall to make it work. Maybe he just thought that at the time it wasnt worth the gamble.

What grates with me is that he professes to be a big fan of whichever football club he's interested in at that moment.

He'd never mentioned West ham until he met Gold, yet he was making out he was a lifelong fan. Now, we know Gold is, so why didnt Sullivan just say he was there as his partner, rather than making out he'd spent his childhood at Upton Park. I mean a few weeks beforehand he was on about buying SPURS - not the act of a huge Hammers fan !

To me it looks like Sullivan can see an opportunity there, with the Olympic Village and is prepared to say whats necessary to make another killing (like he did at Brum).

i respect your views and can understand where your coming from.

sadly football (as we knew it) is changing, not always for the best imo but changing all the same, its all about money and sadly thats not going to change now........

Tim, there were message boards in fact Clive Sullivan posted on CCMB at the time.

I know where your coming from mate - and they can stick the Olympic stadium up their arse if I had my way too.

I don't like new stadiums they are f*cking souless - we've already found that down here!

Tim, there were message boards in fact Clive Sullivan posted on CCMB at the time.

I know where your coming from mate - and they can stick the Olympic stadium up their arse if I had my way too.

I don't like new stadiums they are f*cking souless - we've already found that down here!

Yeah, I remeber that now you mention it !

No AAMB though.


With the stadium it could be worse - Upton Park still has a decent atmosphere, I was thinking that when the reporters were there a cuple of weeks ago before the League Cup game I think - it looked imposing and intimidating.
The stipulation which Gold and Sullivan have said they would agree with is that they would keep the running track so that it could be used of Athletics. That would kill the atmsphere completely. Spurs wouldnt have it apparently- and they wanted to build a smaller athletics ground in return, so their bid will be binned.

Tim,

Your bang on about Upton Park and you fail to mention all the history too mate, I hope it all falls through to be honest.

theres something that city failed to do when moved stadium , take any history with it. Just stuck up f*cking cartoons!

Tim,

Your bang on about Upton Park and you fail to mention all the history too mate, I hope it all falls through to be honest.

theres something that city failed to do when moved stadium , take any history with it. Just stuck up f*cking cartoons!

With Mike Young getting involved we'll have f*cking Superted all over the ground. Who can forget that memorable sponsorship deal? Oh yes 3/4s of our new fans........

Tim,

Your bang on about Upton Park and you fail to mention all the history too mate, I hope it all falls through to be honest.

theres something that city failed to do when moved stadium , take any history with it. Just stuck up f*cking cartoons!

I'm not too up on Upton park's history Steve. , but I get your point.

Tim,

Your bang on about Upton Park and you fail to mention all the history too mate, I hope it all falls through to be honest.

It probably will when West Ham go down, fear not.

Maybe we'll do them 4-0 if we're still in the same division, like we did last time

Possibly the best team I have seen at Cardiff since 1963, a new stadium which has helped to bring crowd levels back up to the levels of the late sixties and early seventies, reduced prices for an FA Cup tie with a Premiership team, one of the best players in last seasons' Premiership playing for us as well as the club's first ever England International - terrible isn't it.,

steve my good man, do what i do and block out all the nonsense behind closed doors and just enjoy the level of football we get to see nowadays
i cant affect anything happening internally so i dont get caught up in it, i started supporting for the football, and will continue because of the football

good riddens

Maybe you should form an Hamish football league team or league were everything stays in the 20th century 2 points for a win,not allowed suppporters not being allowed on internet
Anyway as 54 year old city fan and supporting them for over 45 years I know what you are going through

Maybe you should form an Hamish football league team or league were everything stays in the 20th century 2 points for a win,not allowed suppporters not being allowed on internet
Anyway as 54 year old city fan and supporting them for over 45 years I know what you are going through

hamish? is that some sort of scottish joke?

I know I'm going to get a right slagging off from the Die Hard City supporters for writing this but that's no doubt what comes from writing on messageboards your feelings.

Although it's not a slant or slag off of the Club , it's just me waking up to my feelings that have been building up for a long time, of course this is written by someone who's real number one Club resides elsewhere and so the sentiment is slightly different to many on this board.

But f**k it anyway because rightly or wrongly its my belief.

When i started to follow Cardiff City firstly back in the 80's and then right through the 90's it was a tremendous time, i met real fantastic people, the away games were class, the home games were class, alright the football in level wise was pretty poor compared to todays standards but the whole experience of going to City was first rate.

It was like following a REAL football Club.

After that even the Sam years were quality it felt like a real football club, yes he was f*cking raving bonkers and by god were there some rucks but the whole experience was quality during the good and bad times of that reign. ( oh and this aint a pro sam post by the way!)

Without writing out all the details the whole experience was to put it in football speak " f*cking brilliant" meeting great people who will always remain good pals and in that I include one real top f*cking geezer Steve Borley. Blokes a diamond . I say that cause i dont want him getting dragged into the rest of what im going to say.

Ive realised now that with all the changes that have taken place over the last few years- that fire has gone out for me to be honest. The Clubs attitude stinks , they think they are bigger and better than what they are internally, in fact you could go as far as saying they got their heads stuck right up their own arses. If people thought it through thats probably why people call for Sam to return as they know that would still some community football spirit back!

In fact all the club does these days is shit on you and want to fleece you of your dough at the same time. Internally they have become to be straight a bunch of arrogant bigheaded bunch of tossers. Stick a puffa jacket on a jobsworth and he thinks he owns the club !

Anyway now in my eyes its turning to change even more and it agrees with me like a 6 day old chicken madras. its turning in to Malaysian Franchise FC and will only get worse,

To be honest they make my skin crawl, ive seen through them , like i have others - you cant doubt i have a knack of that! but they are false plastics of the highest degree and whilst they swan around acting bigshot weve got f*cking fans waving malaysian flags FFS.

We even got a daddys rich boy silver spoon lad playing YTS as a Director and writing to fans for fucks sake what's all that about? yes they may have saved the day but they didn't do it for the bullshit of the love of the club thats for f*cking sure - its a malaysian franchise that will make em money off the back of the football club, all this bollocks about loving the club, writing to fans on messageboards and soaking up hero worship as they swank around wants to make me puke.

Do you see American flags at old trafford/Villa? do you see Russian flags at those wankers in Chelsea? do you see whatever flag at Fulham, nah course you f*cking dont.

So why here?

You go down the ground matchday these days and its like a bleeding tourist trip around London, soon we will have tour guides no doubt holding brollies in the air leading the way!!

They break every club rule that is set, trainers where they should not be, jeans in the boardroom- stand up during games, like the lord and his manor .

Its changes so much now from when i enjoyed it and to be honest that change i dont like at all and can only see it getting worse as franchise FC continues to grow.

The flame is nearly out for me thats for sure, everyone to their own i guess, may be its just me getting old and remembering the good old days before the newbie fans , the lego stadium, and all the other current attitude bollocks that goes on when you visit Cardiff City.

see you then

Possibly the best team I have seen at Cardiff since 1963, a new stadium which has helped to bring crowd levels back up to the levels of the late sixties and early seventies, reduced prices for an FA Cup tie with a Premiership team, one of the best players in last seasons' Premiership playing for us as well as the club's first ever England International - terrible isn't it.,

And ignore the heart and soul of the club. Wonderful, isn't it?

And for what? Benefit of the club? Malaysians suddenly love Cardiff City?

Think Daya mentioned the Cosway adverts - try googling cosway and ecosway. Quite illuminating stuff out there about those companies - and more importantly for us, the owners of them...

I do like the facilities at CCS - Ninian was a dump. I can understand what Daya is saying, just as a Cardiff lad haven't the option to quit going...

Possibly the best team I have seen at Cardiff since 1963, a new stadium which has helped to bring crowd levels back up to the levels of the late sixties and early seventies, reduced prices for an FA Cup tie with a Premiership team, one of the best players in last seasons' Premiership playing for us as well as the club's first ever England International - terrible isn't it.,

Probably is good for you Bob , personally speaking seen Bellamy play plenty , nothing special , then went on strike

You only love him because he's from Cardiff and welsh .

I know I'm going to get a right slagging off from the Die Hard City supporters for writing this but that's no doubt what comes from writing on messageboards your feelings.

Although it's not a slant or slag off of the Club , it's just me waking up to my feelings that have been building up for a long time, of course this is written by someone who's real number one Club resides elsewhere and so the sentiment is slightly different to many on this board.

But f**k it anyway because rightly or wrongly its my belief.

When i started to follow Cardiff City firstly back in the 80's and then right through the 90's it was a tremendous time, i met real fantastic people, the away games were class, the home games were class, alright the football in level wise was pretty poor compared to todays standards but the whole experience of going to City was first rate.

It was like following a REAL football Club.

After that even the Sam years were quality it felt like a real football club, yes he was f*cking raving bonkers and by god were there some rucks but the whole experience was quality during the good and bad times of that reign. ( oh and this aint a pro sam post by the way!)

Without writing out all the details the whole experience was to put it in football speak " f*cking brilliant" meeting great people who will always remain good pals and in that I include one real top f*cking geezer Steve Borley. Blokes a diamond . I say that cause i dont want him getting dragged into the rest of what im going to say.

Ive realised now that with all the changes that have taken place over the last few years- that fire has gone out for me to be honest. The Clubs attitude stinks , they think they are bigger and better than what they are internally, in fact you could go as far as saying they got their heads stuck right up their own arses. If people thought it through thats probably why people call for Sam to return as they know that would still some community football spirit back!

In fact all the club does these days is shit on you and want to fleece you of your dough at the same time. Internally they have become to be straight a bunch of arrogant bigheaded bunch of tossers. Stick a puffa jacket on a jobsworth and he thinks he owns the club !

Anyway now in my eyes its turning to change even more and it agrees with me like a 6 day old chicken madras. its turning in to Malaysian Franchise FC and will only get worse,

To be honest they make my skin crawl, ive seen through them , like i have others - you cant doubt i have a knack of that! but they are false plastics of the highest degree and whilst they swan around acting bigshot weve got f*cking fans waving malaysian flags FFS.

We even got a daddys rich boy silver spoon lad playing YTS as a Director and writing to fans for fucks sake what's all that about? yes they may have saved the day but they didn't do it for the bullshit of the love of the club thats for f*cking sure - its a malaysian franchise that will make em money off the back of the football club, all this bollocks about loving the club, writing to fans on messageboards and soaking up hero worship as they swank around wants to make me puke.

Do you see American flags at old trafford/Villa? do you see Russian flags at those wankers in Chelsea? do you see whatever flag at Fulham, nah course you f*cking dont.

So why here?

You go down the ground matchday these days and its like a bleeding tourist trip around London, soon we will have tour guides no doubt holding brollies in the air leading the way!!

They break every club rule that is set, trainers where they should not be, jeans in the boardroom- stand up during games, like the lord and his manor .

Its changes so much now from when i enjoyed it and to be honest that change i dont like at all and can only see it getting worse as franchise FC continues to grow.

The flame is nearly out for me thats for sure, everyone to their own i guess, may be its just me getting old and remembering the good old days before the newbie fans , the lego stadium, and all the other current attitude bollocks that goes on when you visit Cardiff City.

see you then

Oh it's super nerd joinian maybe mike young will stick a cartoon up of you!

I remember the 80's. I also remember the 70's and the 60's. If you really look back to the 80's with nostalgia, then you are completely raving bonkers. Almost certainly the worst decade in the club's history [and that includes the 30's].

To 'add weight' to your arguement, you cite the clothing people wear, and hint at the club 'ripping off' the fans -where's the evidence ?

Last Tuesday it was freezing, and pouring with rain. We had 25,000 in our new stadium, and went 2nd in the Championship.

Get real !

Daya is a dinosaur??..............change is healthy and if you embrace it we can move forward and still remain all the things that make us very unique. If its time up for you then thats your choice, a pity...........but just knock the lights off on your way out and let us get on with it. Hwyl fawr!!