Could sacking Dave Jones cause more problems ?

Must admit I have been calling for the head of DJ.

If it is true what Jay is saying and that DJ has the support of the players what the hell is going on.

Is DJ less involved with team affairs and concentrating on new players sorting contracts etc because Gethin hasn't not a clue in this area. If this is the case get back in the training camp and get someone in to sort the admin.

We are in one big mess.

The question itself admits that we do currently have a problem and/or problems.

So what are the current problem/problems and who is responsible for them ?

Burton has always been the one doing the coaching.
if the squad are behind DJ and are underperforming, well, they sure as hell don't seem to be making massive effort to save their favourite manager. Double edged sword that, because if they are working hard, they are thus simply not good enough.

If the board decided that they are to dismiss Dave Jones of his duties as Cardiff City manager, could this lead to further problems off the pitch and even worse on it.

I see that Jay Bothroyd has tweeted " Why am I reading that Cardiff are considering dave jones future ? That's outrageous it's us players that haven't performed in recent weeks ! "

http://twitter.com/#!/jaybothroyd

What would the other players say or do ?

What Jay do ?

Be careful what you wish for I say.

Troulble is jones keeps picking these players who have not performed ie Nayor... so he has to take the blame Carl

HEATON DID SAY IN AN INTERVIEW THAT ITS DOWN TO THE PLAYERS ,AND WE DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS. IF WE KNEW WE WOULD FIX IT. JONES SAYS ITS THAT WE ARE MAKING THE WRONG DECITIONS ! BUT WHO DO HE MEAN ? DP HE MEAN HE HAS MADE THEM ? THE PLAYERS ARE MAKING THEM WHEN THEY PASS? OR IS IT DOWN TO TIMING WHEN THEY TACKLE AND MISS THE TACKLE THEN THEY SCORE ? FOR GOD SAKE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PRO PLAYERS THATS GETTING 1,000s A WEEK AND THEY CANT PASS A f*cking BALL ?

If the board decided that they are to dismiss Dave Jones of his duties as Cardiff City manager, could this lead to further problems off the pitch and even worse on it.

I see that Jay Bothroyd has tweeted " Why am I reading that Cardiff are considering dave jones future ? That's outrageous it's us players that haven't performed in recent weeks ! "

http://twitter.com/#!/jaybothroyd

What would the other players say or do ?

What Jay do ?

Be careful what you wish for I say.

For me Carl, our players are in a 'comfort zone'. They all need some direction, a sense of
purpose, and quick before our season falls apart.
Jones has failed to inspire them since the Jacks game...That is totally unacceptable
Regards Bothroyd, how many games has he played recently? If he's that bothered about
Jones position, perhaps he'd care to 'lend a hand'.

We are falling like a stone, and for me need a change of manager asap

Well, with all due respect, Jay's feelings are irrelevant.

He's not signed a new contract, so no guarantees he'd be staying anyway.

Indeed, if that's his true view, then he's acknowledging he and other players simply aren't good enough. Players DJ brought in.

Nerd I think it is very relevant what a current player is saying regardless of the length of contract he has left, I am saying that it could blow this season up if players came out and backed DJ if he was sacked.

At present we are still in the promotion race.

How long do you give it then carl
last week it was were are second stop panicking now its we are still in the promotion places what will it be at the end of january when its to late to fetch a new man in dont worry we are only four points off the play offs.
the defence is appalling and every thing is coming down naylors side yet the man is too stubborn to admit or change it.
The next two signings the club make will make or break our season and my opinion is they have to be in our defense.
The cracks in the back four were there for everyone to see in the home leg against leicester and then in the play off final.
He had the summer to correct that and its only my opinion but i think he has weakened it.
Why have we stopped playing football and turned to lumping the ball forward as quick as possible.
Remember carl we brought jones back from the football scrap heap and i believe he should have gone along with ridsdale as the two of them had built together a powerfull empire which was detrimental to the whole set up of the club.
These are the guys who sat down and sorted themselves out big pay rises and decided to scrap reserve team football which to me is the reason that we cant get the likes of koumas and mcphail back to their best.
This whole issue that he has with the press is scandalous and the fact that there is no one at the club with enough clout to make him see sense.
The man has to much power at the club and is abusing it. I personally hope that the malaysians are taking the next few days to sound out who is available to take his place.
Whilst they are doing that i suggest they also bring in a director of football to oversee the general running of the club from a football point of view so that no manager ever gets into such a stong position within the club and resurrect reserve team games asap

Well, with all due respect, Jay's feelings are irrelevant.

He's not signed a new contract, so no guarantees he'd be staying anyway.

Indeed, if that's his true view, then he's acknowledging he and other players simply aren't good enough. Players DJ brought in.

Nerd I think it is very relevant what a current player is saying regardless of the length of contract he has left, I am saying that it could blow this season up if players came out and backed DJ if he was sacked.

At present we are still in the promotion race.

How long do you give it then carl
last week it was were are second stop panicking now its we are still in the promotion places what will it be at the end of january when its to late to fetch a new man in dont worry we are only four points off the play offs.
the defence is appalling and every thing is coming down naylors side yet the man is too stubborn to admit or change it.
The next two signings the club make will make or break our season and my opinion is they have to be in our defense.
The cracks in the back four were there for everyone to see in the home leg against leicester and then in the play off final.
He had the summer to correct that and its only my opinion but i think he has weakened it.
Why have we stopped playing football and turned to lumping the ball forward as quick as possible.
Remember carl we brought jones back from the football scrap heap and i believe he should have gone along with ridsdale as the two of them had built together a powerfull empire which was detrimental to the whole set up of the club.
These are the guys who sat down and sorted themselves out big pay rises and decided to scrap reserve team football which to me is the reason that we cant get the likes of koumas and mcphail back to their best.
This whole issue that he has with the press is scandalous and the fact that there is no one at the club with enough clout to make him see sense.
The man has to much power at the club and is abusing it. I personally hope that the malaysians are taking the next few days to sound out who is available to take his place.
Whilst they are doing that i suggest they also bring in a director of football to oversee the general running of the club from a football point of view so that no manager ever gets into such a stong position within the club and resurrect reserve team games asap

Totally agree with all this. The arrogance has been growing for many months/years and led to massive complacency which the club is now paying dearly for. Once direction is lost it's always very hard to get it back unless you change the leadership in our case on and off the pitch.

Having watched City for 25 years plus , where we are now with stadium , team , wembley appearances in unreal.

What if we gpup , everyone will slate Jones if we lose or dont get into top 10 ?? Crazy - he cant win !!

Everyone take a reality step , we love Cardiff but lets be realistic , we are achieving things now , we have money now so be realistic. £30m will be used for debts pay off , TG pay off , money for players wages etc etc sam . How much left for new players ?? Not much .

But this isn't 25 years ago, we have the strongest team in god knows how many years, yet we've achived 8 points from the past 30 odd.

Agree but Jones got us to top 2 before this match , Wolves had terrible run before automatic , million dollar question is do we gamble on Jnes till end of season or new manager now that will change team or tactics that may not pay off . Jones deserves till season end - my opinion

Jones didn't get Wolves up automatic it was through the playoffs, The season or two before they were 11 points clear after xmas and failed to reach playoffs

It depends how they recruit, if they get a good manager then we will obviously develop, progress as a club and get promoted, if they recruit poorly then we will move backwards. Those that say getting rid of Jones solves all the problems are mistaken, just as those that prophesise doom & gloom should we release Mr Jones from his contract are too, it is completely dependant on how well we replace him whether that be now or in the future. Personally, having been a fan of Jones until the last season at Ninian whereby doubts began creeping in that were greatly exacerbated by his recruitment policy that summer, allied with his notoriously poor tactical nous, I feel his position is fast becoming untenable as there can be no doubt with the calibre of player at his disposal, Cardiff should be running away with automatic promotion, if not the title.

Well, with all due respect, Jay's feelings are irrelevant.

He's not signed a new contract, so no guarantees he'd be staying anyway.

Indeed, if that's his true view, then he's acknowledging he and other players simply aren't good enough. Players DJ brought in.

Nerd I think it is very relevant what a current player is saying regardless of the length of contract he has left, I am saying that it could blow this season up if players came out and backed DJ if he was sacked.

At present we are still in the promotion race.

How long do you give it then carl
last week it was were are second stop panicking now its we are still in the promotion places what will it be at the end of january when its to late to fetch a new man in dont worry we are only four points off the play offs.
the defence is appalling and every thing is coming down naylors side yet the man is too stubborn to admit or change it.
The next two signings the club make will make or break our season and my opinion is they have to be in our defense.
The cracks in the back four were there for everyone to see in the home leg against leicester and then in the play off final.
He had the summer to correct that and its only my opinion but i think he has weakened it.
Why have we stopped playing football and turned to lumping the ball forward as quick as possible.
Remember carl we brought jones back from the football scrap heap and i believe he should have gone along with ridsdale as the two of them had built together a powerfull empire which was detrimental to the whole set up of the club.
These are the guys who sat down and sorted themselves out big pay rises and decided to scrap reserve team football which to me is the reason that we cant get the likes of koumas and mcphail back to their best.
This whole issue that he has with the press is scandalous and the fact that there is no one at the club with enough clout to make him see sense.
The man has to much power at the club and is abusing it. I personally hope that the malaysians are taking the next few days to sound out who is available to take his place.
Whilst they are doing that i suggest they also bring in a director of football to oversee the general running of the club from a football point of view so that no manager ever gets into such a stong position within the club and resurrect reserve team games asap

carl we are losing to sides that are there for the taking , as for coventry a pub side would have beat them !!!
he is so stuborn he keeps picking naylor ffs the man is usless,gets rid of gerrard and keeps picking hudson;i could
go on. HE HAS GOT TO GO

If the board decided that they are to dismiss Dave Jones of his duties as Cardiff City manager, could this lead to further problems off the pitch and even worse on it.

I see that Jay Bothroyd has tweeted " Why am I reading that Cardiff are considering dave jones future ? That's outrageous it's us players that haven't performed in recent weeks ! "

http://twitter.com/#!/jaybothroyd

What would the other players say or do ?

What Jay do ?

Be careful what you wish for I say.

why are they not trying,something is seriously wrong at the moment and if we the supporters doesnt know whats going on then we can only make assumptions.and that is D.J has had long enough