" So Whats The Matter With The City?- Part One/Two/Three "

One of the saddest and ill-informed (if there is ANY factual content in there) posts I have EVER witnessed on this site....

Obviously a person VERY narked at recent on-field events trying to vent their spleen....

It would have been easier to read 'War and Peace'

How on earth you came to most of those conclusions absolutely baffles and disappoints me....and what makes it worse is that SOME of our more fickle supporters (as already shown in responses to this diatribe) will actually believe it as FACT!!

THREE sections to say what you could have said in one paragraph....that YOU think City are shite, the manager is shite (or as you so eloquently put it, a bullying, dictatorial gob-shite clogger with no love for this club), the players are shite and, more importantly, the two people who (regardless of what YOU may think) have pulled this club from the jaws of Hades and turned it into an almost viable business, whilst (bit by bit) sorting out the debts to all invloved 100% rather tha paying 2p in the £ as many others (including those twice-bust tw*ts from down the road) have done in recent times....

They (the new investors) have overseen large outlays on wages for pretty good 'loan' players this season and are (for the first time in several years) prepared to bring in NEW players during the January transfer window....

I don't know what your agenda is here....but it is not one borne of a love of Cardiff City Football Club....whatever you say. It is, in my humble opinion, just another rant by someone whose frustrations with ither things in life are channelled (like so many others) at an easy target....in this case a slightly stumbling football team and its management at all levels....

There is, of course, always the opportunity for YOU to buy the club YOURSELF and run it in a more pragmatic and football-orientated way than its current owners. YOU could then, of course, choose your own manager (a bit like on FIFA 11) and may even decide to run affairs both on and off the pitch yourself....

But then again, of course, YOU couldn't could YOU?!?! Don't have the money, the real knowledge, or the clout to do so, do YOU??

Luckily for us (remember we were about to go into administration when these guys got involved) TG and VT came in and saved us....and, as far as me and the rest of us humble (and apparently ignorant) supporters are concerned, we haven't exactly seen a deteriation of the club or reduction in the standard of playing staff since, have we??

That the Bluebirds are not performing to their potential at this moment in time is disappointing, to say the least....but none of you moaning minnies were sticking your head above the parapet BEFORE DJ won Manager of the Month and we went on the traditional post-award slide, did you??

So, to end this post somewhat earlier than you, but with more sense in its content, I believe the only things wrong with Cardiff City Football Club at this time is a temporary loss of form from the players and a desire by some loud people to destabilise the club by continually inventing (or adding to) stories or rumours because they have negative agendas. Why?? I'm not totally sure....we usually have the MediaWales boys to do that!!

Good Morning ,

A brisk walk this morning on the beach with the dog prepared myself for a peek at this wonderful forum and some of the replies and I was certainly expecting some different opinion to that of myself. I'm looking at some of the points you raise and his is my reply in my opinion.

A. Actually it's not a sad posting as you call it, as for ill informed, it's an opinion based on my own opinion and of the information gathered in the main by the wonderful Carl Curtis updates of which are 99% factual as proved and other snippets from other reliable posters such as Steve Davies.

B. I make my conclusions in probability the same way you draw to yours hopefully with an open mind.

C. I do not as you express it " think City are shite" because like you they are the Club I have supported all my life, whilst though clearly I share different opinion to your good self towards many factors of where it is going wrong , I form my opinion from looking at the whole picture and not just the current poor results.

D. You clearly see the Malaysians as saviours, yes they did stave the Club away from Administration I agree, but for what reason ? was it for the love of football? of course it wasn't in my opinion. What reason do you feel they invested into the Football Club?

E. If you feel it's only down to a loss of form that's your opinion, I don't, I also fear greatly if promotion to the Premiership is not gained. As many have stated VT is " ruthless" when a man is labelled " Ruthless" it can work both ways. Football is not guaranteed business however rich you are, ask many rich owners out there below the Premiership.

F. Manager of the Month, the title of the award sums it up " Month" there are many Months to a season.

G. You use the words a " slightly stumbling football team" in my opinion this is not a slight stumble at all and if you read my posting carefully you will read my opinion that it's not just a stumble on the park that I feel in my opinion where the majority of problems lie.

H. Media Wales, do you make these comments because of your loyalty to Jones and that's his thoughts? Media Wales in my opinion especially Terry Phillips in my opinion have been biased towards the Club and have not written about the Club in true depth. It's harsh to blame Media Wales.

YOUR OPINIONS are VERY VERY INTERESTING

A Question to Daya, How come you Dont Trust TG ?

Has Sam been on the phone Annis? All I can conclude by this rant is that he is in the background pulling your strings.
Sure the club have hit a run of bad form but one result can change that.
I think this farrago of hints, assumptions and plain outright lies are not helpful for Cardiff City Football Club and that should be the thing that we should all be concerned about. We have all noted your agenda in regard to Dave Jones and your faint praise when things were going well. Now that the team are having a bad run you jump on your bandwagon and slag off all and sundry. I think you should have a little more faith and get behind the team and hope that next weekend will see the end of the bad run and the beginning of the run that will take us to the top of the Championship.
The team will come out of this slump, sooner rather that later I hope. But I have no doubt that we will end the season as Champions and be in the Premiership next season despite the moaning and whinging of the faint-hearted.

A very interesting if difficult read.
However, its not long ago that it seemed that the club was financially on its knees with hardly a week passing without news about court appearances, possible administration, winding-up orders etc. Whatever the motivations and expectations of our Malaysian friends, I for one am very happy that these days, news items about Cardiff City FC relate to football and not financial matters. And talking about the football......undoubtedly it was the jacks game that started the rot; dont know why but the jacks seem to cope with the pressure of these derby games better than us, we seem too much on edge but they just turn up, pass the ball about and settle in to the games very early. I am not suggesting that losing the game against the jacks is the only reason for this miserable run but it certainly seems to have knocked a bloody big dent in the confidences of everyone connected with the club who, prior to November, were already printing out the route maps to Liverpool, Manchester etc. If there's one thing thats needling me at the moment though is this business of DJ always having a go at the media, supporters etc. Never mind them Mr Jones, you have a squad of players that, with a few exceptions, most Championship managers would jump through hoops to get hold of. Dave this is your team, their misfiring of late is not the fault of our Terrence or other media scribes, so get hold of our boys and as we say "Jonesy, sort it out".
We need to win next weekend, we really need it so we can go into the holiday period of fixtures on a high.
So c'mon, next saturday lets clear our throats and give the boys all the help we can.

Has Sam been on the phone Annis? All I can conclude by this rant is that he is in the background pulling your strings.
Sure the club have hit a run of bad form but one result can change that.
I think this farrago of hints, assumptions and plain outright lies are not helpful for Cardiff City Football Club and that should be the thing that we should all be concerned about. We have all noted your agenda in regard to Dave Jones and your faint praise when things were going well. Now that the team are having a bad run you jump on your bandwagon and slag off all and sundry. I think you should have a little more faith and get behind the team and hope that next weekend will see the end of the bad run and the beginning of the run that will take us to the top of the Championship.
The team will come out of this slump, sooner rather that later I hope. But I have no doubt that we will end the season as Champions and be in the Premiership next season despite the moaning and whinging of the faint-hearted.

Your first post and you Ask me A SARCASTIC Question, yet its NOT MY TOPIC lol
This Topic/Post has Nothing to do with me at all.
I am not in to typing that much, I struggle with 3 or 4 lines.
And No he has Not been on the phone.

Has Sam been on the phone Annis? All I can conclude by this rant is that he is in the background pulling your strings.
Sure the club have hit a run of bad form but one result can change that.
I think this farrago of hints, assumptions and plain outright lies are not helpful for Cardiff City Football Club and that should be the thing that we should all be concerned about. We have all noted your agenda in regard to Dave Jones and your faint praise when things were going well. Now that the team are having a bad run you jump on your bandwagon and slag off all and sundry. I think you should have a little more faith and get behind the team and hope that next weekend will see the end of the bad run and the beginning of the run that will take us to the top of the Championship.
The team will come out of this slump, sooner rather that later I hope. But I have no doubt that we will end the season as Champions and be in the Premiership next season despite the moaning and whinging of the faint-hearted.

Oh I see its time for these anti Annis key board warriors to pick on him. First post and its attack on him, very brave.

I'll tell you what, how about leaving Annis alone and start on me. Read my posts on here and see how I feel about DJ, am just as anti DJ as anyone on here. Study my posts then come back with some constructive argument OK insterad of coming out with statements like we will end uop as champions. I bet you are the type of poster that will disappear into the cyber wilderness when you are proved wrong.

Annis I apologies IF this thread was not of your doing. I am just so used to your negativity that I am guilty of making assumptions.
Incidently, who or what are the Snipers Forum?

Annis I apologies IF this thread was not of your doing. I am just so used to your negativity that I am guilty of making assumptions.
Incidently, who or what are the Snipers Forum?

Listen, YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, BUT YOU SINGLED ME OUT.
Your first post was NOTHING BUT SARCASTIC and THIS FORUM WELCOME OPINIONS/DEBATES BUT NOT PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WANT TO JUST COME ON HERE TO TWIST THINGS And JUST BE SARCASTIC, BUT NOT EVEN WANT TO TALK FOOTBALL.
Well if your so used to my negativity, DONT BOTHER COMING ON HERE/NO ONE FORCES YOU TO READ MY TOPICS, YET THIS ONE WAS NOT MINE.
Your prob Claude blue.
Go on my posts and debate things, if your a DJ Fan, No prob, I WELCOME YOUR REASON/BACKING etc etc.

Has Sam been on the phone Annis? All I can conclude by this rant is that he is in the background pulling your strings.
Sure the club have hit a run of bad form but one result can change that.
I think this farrago of hints, assumptions and plain outright lies are not helpful for Cardiff City Football Club and that should be the thing that we should all be concerned about. We have all noted your agenda in regard to Dave Jones and your faint praise when things were going well. Now that the team are having a bad run you jump on your bandwagon and slag off all and sundry. I think you should have a little more faith and get behind the team and hope that next weekend will see the end of the bad run and the beginning of the run that will take us to the top of the Championship.
The team will come out of this slump, sooner rather that later I hope. But I have no doubt that we will end the season as Champions and be in the Premiership next season despite the moaning and whinging of the faint-hearted.

Football is all about opinions and I respect your right to yours except when the content is so clearly based on personal insults. Whatever your opinion of Annis no one can doubt the fact the he shares many fans opinions of DJ and in fairness to the man he gives those opinions openly and honestly.

I would consider myself the poster boy for the DJ out brigade indeed I have posted a topic today regarding our current run of form, why not read it and if you disagree comeback and have a go at me.

One thing my article is in no way a hotchpotch of assumptions but facts.

Mr Chris Hughton has just been sacked by Newcastle United FC. Now is the perfect chance for Cardiff City to hire him. He is an admirable man who has managed to control and get the best out of Joey Barton and Andy Carroll.

I feel very sorry for the hapless Mr Dave Jones, but he is way past his sell-by-date in South Wales.

The truth is that Mr Jones - a good and decent man - was once victim to wicked unfounded criminal charges. Ever since, football folk have rallied around him. That in itself is commendable. But the downside is that in doing so, they have cut him FAR too much slack, in terms of his abilities.

For the fact is that he has achieved virtually nothing as a manager. Some initial mild success with Stockport County (not unusual for managers to start out like express trains, but quickly end up like shunters!). He achieved nothing with Southampton and got quickly sacked (it was wrongly thought to be a sacking based on those unfounded criminal charges: it was not, for The Industrial Tribunal found in the favour of the club). Mr Lowe knew that DJ did not have it in him as a top coach.

Then we found DJ with Wolves, blowing an 11 point lead (over 3rd placed WBA) in mid March and missing out to them on promotion that season. Then buying promotion with Jack Hayward's money the following one (but coming straight down again). Culminating last year with losing out to a Blackpool team last season (whose whole squad cost less than one Cardiff player, the deeply-flawed Michael Chopra). But Blackpool had a manager who can MOTIVATE. Mr Jones has no discernible talent as a motivator of men.

And look how events MARK people's characters.

DJ gets wicked false allegations of sexual assault levelled at him, and becomes surly and paranoid as a result.

Ian Holloway has a wife battling cancer and three children born profoundly deaf, and what happens? Life's slings and arrows somehow turn him into a wonderful mix of the philosopher and the self-deprecating wit (as if to say, "soccer brings good and bad luck, but Everday Life can be so much worse"!)

Time to go, Mr Jones.

Local journalists Messrs Parfitt and Tucker thankfully are the vital Force of Reality in all this “Dave Jones is a top manager” nonsense.

Let's hope that TG and Vincent Tan read this.

Mr Chris Hughton has just been sacked by Newcastle United FC. Now is the perfect chance for Cardiff City to hire him. He is an admirable man who has managed to control and get the best out of Joey Barton and Andy Carroll.

I feel very sorry for the hapless Mr Dave Jones, but he is way past his sell-by-date in South Wales.

The truth is that Mr Jones - a good and decent man - was once victim to wicked unfounded criminal charges. Ever since, football folk have rallied around him. That in itself is commendable. But the downside is that in doing so, they have cut him FAR too much slack, in terms of his abilities.

For the fact is that he has achieved virtually nothing as a manager. Some initial mild success with Stockport County (not unusual for managers to start out like express trains, but quickly end up like shunters!). He achieved nothing with Southampton and got quickly sacked (it was wrongly thought to be a sacking based on those unfounded criminal charges: it was not, for The Industrial Tribunal found in the favour of the club). Mr Lowe knew that DJ did not have it in him as a top coach.

Then we found DJ with Wolves, blowing an 11 point lead (over 3rd placed WBA) in mid March and missing out to them on promotion that season. Then buying promotion with Jack Hayward's money the following one (but coming straight down again). Culminating last year with losing out to a Blackpool team last season (whose whole squad cost less than one Cardiff player, the deeply-flawed Michael Chopra). But Blackpool had a manager who can MOTIVATE. Mr Jones has no discernible talent as a motivator of men.

And look how events MARK people's characters.

DJ gets wicked false allegations of sexual assault levelled at him, and becomes surly and paranoid as a result.

Ian Holloway has a wife battling cancer and three children born profoundly deaf, and what happens? Life's slings and arrows somehow turn him into a wonderful mix of the philosopher and the self-deprecating wit (as if to say, "soccer brings good and bad luck, but Everday Life can be so much worse"!)

Time to go, Mr Jones.

Local journalists Messrs Parfitt and Tucker thankfully are the vital Force of Reality in all this “Dave Jones is a top manager” nonsense.

Let's hope that TG and Vincent Tan read this.

Great post.

well i have enjoyed the read/debate and well done to all but im sure the results will come and hopefully some good ones in our favour would be fantastic sooner rather than later

Some cracking posts from both sides of the fence.

Regarding VT and TG I am grateful they came in when they did. There is no getting away from that one. However and like most situations like this there is always a hidden agenda. What that is none of us are going to know and we can only guess by what we are allowed to see. My guess is its looking good by what I am seeing from them. Since their arrival I see the likes of Bellamy and co joining our club. What I dont see are winding up orders coming our way. So its looking good at what I see and dont see as far as their involvment goes. Yet there is always that fear factor due to the nature of the hidden agenda.

My main interest is what goes on the pitch. Now I have made this clear well before Bellamy and co came along that I was uncomfortable about it all, especially with DJ as manager. I used the argument that even Ridsdale gave him money to spend last season, DJ finally got Chopra back and brought in Hudson, yet he still failed to deliver. The counter arguments were that we were up against premier teams like Newcastle and WBA and we still had a small squad. Fair arguments I thought but they domt apply to this season.

We have the best squad in the league without doubt. Our fringe players got us to the play off final in a more difficult league. Yes the league this season is alot easier than previous seasons. Yet we are making difficult work off it even though we have a superior squad to any of the other seasons we have been in this league and lets be truthful our squad knocks the spots of other squads this division. So the counter arguments are not there are they?

So we now have a strong boardroom, a billionaire instead of a scrounger. We have a strong squad compared to others. We have the same management though. Simple to work out really.

Yes we are 2nd, the last standing comeback from my adveraries. Take this into account though, we are 3 pints off dropping to 9th. Thats one game. According to our manager we are having to go back to basics. Go back to basics when other teams are gelling together which we should be doing this time of year. Are we feeling confident? I'm not.

Whats the matter with the City. Simple to work out really is it not?

Where does this come from we are currently 8 points clear of 9th see table below

Latest match Saturday,
11th December 2010 Pld Home Away Overall Pts EP
W D L F A W D L F A W D L F A

1 Queens Park Rangers 20 7 3 1 22 7 4 5 0 14 5 11 8 1 36 12 41 +24
2 Cardiff City 21 5 3 2 16 9 6 1 4 19 13 11 4 6 35 22 37 +13 [/color]
3 Swansea City 21 6 3 2 14 5 5 1 4 14 13 11 4 6 28 18 37 +10
4 Leeds United 21 5 1 4 19 20 5 4 2 18 15 10 5 6 37 35 35 +2
5 Coventry City 21 6 1 3 16 10 4 3 4 12 13 10 4 7 28 23 34 +5
6 Norwich City 21 5 2 4 19 17 4 4 2 14 12 9 6 6 33 29 33 +4

7 Derby County 21 6 1 3 24 11 3 2 6 10 16 9 3 9 34 27 30 +7
8 Watford 21 3 4 3 16 16 5 2 4 22 17 8 6 7 38 33 30 +5
9 Burnley 20 7 2 2 23 14 0 6 3 9 12 7 8 5 32 26 29 +6
10 Barnsley 20 6 3 2 16 9 2 2 5 9 20 8 5 7 25 29 29 -4
11 Millwall 21 4 3 3 15 11 3 4 4 10 11 7 7 7 25 22 28 +3
12 Portsmouth 20 4 3 2 18 12 4 1 6 10 15 8 4 8 28 27 28 +1
13 Leicester City 21 6 3 2 18 10 2 1 7 13 25 8 4 9 31 35 28 -4
14 Reading 20 4 5 2 17 11 2 4 3 11 11 6 9 5 28 22 27 +6
15 Nottingham Forest 19 4 5 0 12 6 2 4 4 9 11 6 9 4 21 17 27 +4
16 Doncaster Rovers 20 4 4 1 15 9 3 2 6 16 25 7 6 7 31 34 27 -3
17 Bristol City 20 4 3 4 14 15 3 2 4 10 13 7 5 8 24 28 26 -4
18 Ipswich Town 21 4 1 5 12 15 3 2 6 10 15 7 3 11 22 30 24 -8
19 Hull City 20 3 3 3 6 4 2 5 4 11 19 5 8 7 17 23 23 -6
20 Sheffield United 20 3 1 5 9 16 3 3 5 7 12 6 4 10 16 28 22 -12
21 Middlesbrough 21 5 2 4 16 15 1 1 8 4 15 6 3 12 20 30 21 -10

22 Crystal Palace 21 5 2 4 15 13 1 1 8 9 24 6 3 12 24 37 21 -13
23 Scunthorpe United 20 1 2 7 8 19 5 0 5 15 16 6 2 12 23 35 20 -12
24 Preston North End 21 3 2 6 11 16 2 2 6 14 23 5 4 12 25 39 19 -14

Colour key
League Champions Relegation place(s) Team(s) to be transferred
Promotion place(s) Play-off place(s)

This is a very interesting thread. Some good points coming from both sides.

I dont believe we should get rid of Jones. My opinion is right now it would do more harm than good.It wouldnt be Cardiff City if we didnt have this annoying blip in form. Its since the swansea game. We havnt played particularly well all season bar a few games but against the jacks we just fell apart and have struggled since.

We do need to start winning now though, enough is enough. We are still 2nd but only by a ball hair now. It was a similar situation last season when we looked like slipping out of the play-off positions we always seemed to avoid it by other results and picking up valuable points.

We werent great against boro but we still had more shots than them so a confidence booster against burnley and we'll be back firing again and then hopefully no looking back.

I think though we'd be mad to get shot of jones....just now anyway

This is a very interesting thread. Some good points coming from both sides.

I dont believe we should get rid of Jones. My opinion is right now it would do more harm than good.It wouldnt be Cardiff City if we didnt have this annoying blip in form. Its since the swansea game. We havnt played particularly well all season bar a few games but against the jacks we just fell apart and have struggled since.

We do need to start winning now though, enough is enough. We are still 2nd but only by a ball hair now. It was a similar situation last season when we looked like slipping out of the play-off positions we always seemed to avoid it by other results and picking up valuable points.

We werent great against boro but we still had more shots than them so a confidence booster against burnley and we'll be back firing again and then hopefully no looking back.

I think though we'd be mad to get shot of jones....just now anyway

Totally agree. Bad time to get rid. However Houghton will not be available for long! Go get him VT!

Not going to agree or disagree with anyone here but as someone said it's just an opinion. i don't know whether what is said behind the scenes is verified.

If I may be allowed to venture my opinion?

This debate has been coming. It's more than a blip; its 1 clean sheet in 12, 1 win in 7.

If Jones is the total alter ego then he has to take more of the blame for failing so dismally to improve the defence which cost us last season - yes Bothroyd was injured but he decided to leave McCormack on the bench until late, and play Etuhu? That was one of Chopra's finest games for City yet he had no support thanks to poor management by Jones.

The real problem is the lack of a defence.

Let's look at the defence from saturday.

Gaolkeeper - not bad
Full backs - one good, and one Scottish div 3 standard. Just about.
Centre backs - one slow, and the other a walking disaster. And vice versa. Take your pick.

How is that an improvement from last season? The defence is the most crucial part of the team - don't concede, you don't lose. If we had had 7 clean sheets in past 7 games, we would have picked up more points. Jones was banking on his star forwards to bail out the sh@t defence every game. It worked for a while but not anymore as the goals have dried up.

City cannot change the manager as they cannot afford to. It's better (sadly) the devil you know than the one you don't for us fans until season's end.

Why should Jones have to wait for TW to improve the team - he told us last season that the squad was the strongest ever at City, and more of the same diatribe this August (on the back of one player). He has got us into this mess but as aforesaid we are stuck with him.

What I will say also is that (as alluded to by others) the lack of a football board is coming to the fore now.

Depressing beyond belief. This division is lacking any really strong team - there are now up to 10 who could take top 2 spots. At the moment I cannot see us as one. Quite rightly someone above said, yes we are 2nd, but only potentially one more loss from 9th.

David Jones,

An arrogant, stubborn man, most football Managers are, but at most football Clubs, they have people above them with football knowledge, in the main at City there is none above and Jones and his 70's mentality to football and the handling of football matters in my opinion will not get us promoted and has the full run of the Club.

Jones likes to build a team around one person, himself, not just players but back room staff too. It's the Iron Glove of Jones in his eyes, surrounded by his motley crew. The problem being in my opinion his Motley Crew are as inept as Jones himself, Paul Wilkinson does what exactly apart from love himself? Terry Burton, what's the point in him coaching players to be over ruled by Iron Glove anyway? prime example when Burton tries telling Jones he has the wrong tactics for the Swansea game at half time- response " f*cking shut it Terry it's my f*cking team- shut up" Then who else do we have on the bench, oh yes the fitness guru Alex Armstrong, how many Injuries do we get through? how long was Jay on the pitch last week V Preston ? clearly not warmed up properly who's role is that to ensure?

Jones himself has clearly one of the best squads ever at his disposal with the most experience, but tonight's excuse from him was " fear factor" his excuses are normally of poor quality, rather like the style of football his teams normally play, how does a squad of such experience now suffer from " fear factor" ? or is the case that the " fear factor" is that of Jones to the eye of the Malaysian Tiger the reality of" the fear factor"?

70's man Iron Glove Jones and his Motley Crew are totally out of their depth, whilst the unknowledgeable football board allow him the run of the Club , let's face it Jones has had the biggest playing budget for years, Peter Ridsdale always ensures that and he still can't deliver.

Jones, blames the press, the message boards, the fans, the players, when will he actually blame himself? He's not brought a victory in 6 now , of course he now claims he needs all of a sudden 5 new players, whilst he had the best squad ever at the start of the season according to himself.

Some will say, we are second, I'm happy with that, although I can't see us going up under Jones ever, but thankfully I like Championship Football, the long term problem though is does Mr Tan .

In summary in my opinion right throughout the structure of the Club, there are too many individuals with their own agenda, too much arrogance, too much attitude , too much self importance that runs throughout the ranks and that's why in my opinion we will not go up and much of the above stems from Jones and his personality running through the Club as example . In the Boardroom its split , and whilst that's apparent to me, we shall not go up.

Now to the Players - part 4 to be continued.

Nice one Gilo

One of the saddest and ill-informed (if there is ANY factual content in there) posts I have EVER witnessed on this site....

Obviously a person VERY narked at recent on-field events trying to vent their spleen....

It would have been easier to read 'War and Peace'

How on earth you came to most of those conclusions absolutely baffles and disappoints me....and what makes it worse is that SOME of our more fickle supporters (as already shown in responses to this diatribe) will actually believe it as FACT!!

THREE sections to say what you could have said in one paragraph....that YOU think City are shite, the manager is shite (or as you so eloquently put it, a bullying, dictatorial gob-shite clogger with no love for this club), the players are shite and, more importantly, the two people who (regardless of what YOU may think) have pulled this club from the jaws of Hades and turned it into an almost viable business, whilst (bit by bit) sorting out the debts to all invloved 100% rather tha paying 2p in the £ as many others (including those twice-bust tw*ts from down the road) have done in recent times....

They (the new investors) have overseen large outlays on wages for pretty good 'loan' players this season and are (for the first time in several years) prepared to bring in NEW players during the January transfer window....

I don't know what your agenda is here....but it is not one borne of a love of Cardiff City Football Club....whatever you say. It is, in my humble opinion, just another rant by someone whose frustrations with ither things in life are channelled (like so many others) at an easy target....in this case a slightly stumbling football team and its management at all levels....

There is, of course, always the opportunity for YOU to buy the club YOURSELF and run it in a more pragmatic and football-orientated way than its current owners. YOU could then, of course, choose your own manager (a bit like on FIFA 11) and may even decide to run affairs both on and off the pitch yourself....

But then again, of course, YOU couldn't could YOU?!?! Don't have the money, the real knowledge, or the clout to do so, do YOU??

Luckily for us (remember we were about to go into administration when these guys got involved) TG and VT came in and saved us....and, as far as me and the rest of us humble (and apparently ignorant) supporters are concerned, we haven't exactly seen a deteriation of the club or reduction in the standard of playing staff since, have we??

That the Bluebirds are not performing to their potential at this moment in time is disappointing, to say the least....but none of you moaning minnies were sticking your head above the parapet BEFORE DJ won Manager of the Month and we went on the traditional post-award slide, did you??

So, to end this post somewhat earlier than you, but with more sense in its content, I believe the only things wrong with Cardiff City Football Club at this time is a temporary loss of form from the players and a desire by some loud people to destabilise the club by continually inventing (or adding to) stories or rumours because they have negative agendas. Why?? I'm not totally sure....we usually have the MediaWales boys to do that!!

That the Bluebirds are not performing to their potential at this moment in time is disappointing, to say the least....but none of you moaning minnies were sticking your head above the parapet BEFORE DJ won Manager of the Month and we went on the traditional post-award slide, did you??

So, to end this post somewhat earlier than you, but with more sense in its content, I believe the only things wrong with Cardiff City Football Club at this time is a temporary loss of form from the players and a desire by some loud people to destabilise the club by continually inventing (or adding to) stories or rumours because they have negative agendas. Why?? I'm not totally sure....we usually have the MediaWales boys to do that!

EXCELLENT POST AND SPOT ON.......

Well Fair play who ever you are It was a Good Read