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Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:09 pm

Anyway, I thought I read somewhere that the founder of the wdl had closed it down and set up a new group with no racist element?

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:09 pm

thats fine jam

but you have met me and I you and I can honestly tell you there were lots of racist offensive stuff being said by the edl in cardiff

I dont think they expected so many people to turn out to counter protest against them mind

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:11 pm

Totally agree with many of their views, but they are a poorly organised group that are going about things the wrong way if they are trying to stamp out the muslim exstremists from the country...

It will take alot more than a march, that just satrs a riot, and makes them look like the bad guys to the rest of the country. The rest of the country that probably agree with not wanting the muslims here...

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:13 pm

Western Blue wrote:Totally agree with many of their views, but they are a poorly organised group that are going about things the wrong way if they are trying to stamp out the muslim exstremists from the country...

It will take alot more than a march, that just satrs a riot, and makes them look like the bad guys to the rest of the country. The rest of the country that probably agree with not wanting the muslims here...



I fully agree with not wanting extremists , murdering scum

but the programme tonight will show the english defence league singing songs about muslims in general

which goes against what they say they are ...against JUST extremists

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:17 pm

davebb wrote:
Billy Hunt. wrote:I watched a programe last week about the EDL and UAF.
This is my opinion and I may get slated but the UAF are a bunch of tree loving, do-gooding freaks, they cause the most trouble. I am no way saying that the EDL are angels but the problem with the EDL is that they have a number of wannabe nazis who are tagging along. That is not what the EDL stands for. I'm rubbish at describing stuff so just watch the short video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2VrK8EAHuU


The guy can hardly string a sentence together. Seems militant extemist gangs are pedaling heroin now, and raping non muslim girls. That's all of them mind, each and every one of them.


Aha!!

So by the same token, how can you tar all members of the WDL as racists??
I agree with MANY of their ideas re: immigration, colour doesnt come into
it. There are complete racist dickheads amongst them, and thats who we'll
see tonight. As for Islam... It is an untouchable religion. You cannot publicly
state that you think its a load of bollocks cos your a 'racist'.. you cannot call
it a third world cult that belongs back in the middle ages, for fear of being called a
'racist'.. and you definitely better not do anything as horrific as burn a Koran.
THATS MY honest opinion on Islam, and race does not come into it at all!!

Yet greasy smelly students are allowed to walk around Britain wearing 'Jesus
is a c*nt' T shirts

Catholic jokes, protestant jokes, jesus jokes, dirty old vicar jokes... you name
it and we can tell em. But in Britain (a christian country) you are NOT allowed
to poke a teasing finger at Islam.

And I'm sorry to say this, its cos people like your good self have been totally
brainwashed by the 'PC' new order

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:18 pm

jamccfc wrote:it's just the same as saying that all muslims are terrorists, all christians are murdering crusaders and all city fans are hooligans.
there are bad elements in all walks of life/religions/political parties, lets not tar all with the same brush and be able to listen to what is being said without a prejudiced view.


It's not really though is it? Being a muslim doesn't mean you're a terrorist, being a city fan doesn't mean you're hooligan, cctively joining the WDL and going on marches to support them does mean you are a racist.

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:20 pm

davebb wrote:It's not really though is it? Being a muslim doesn't mean you're a terrorist, being a city fan doesn't mean you're hooligan, cctively joining the WDL and going on marches to support them does mean you are a racist.


How does that work then? I know members of the WDL that are NOT racist, but are being victimised because of idiots like you. Crawl back under your PC rock.

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:20 pm

taffyapple wrote:
davebb wrote:
Billy Hunt. wrote:I watched a programe last week about the EDL and UAF.
This is my opinion and I may get slated but the UAF are a bunch of tree loving, do-gooding freaks, they cause the most trouble. I am no way saying that the EDL are angels but the problem with the EDL is that they have a number of wannabe nazis who are tagging along. That is not what the EDL stands for. I'm rubbish at describing stuff so just watch the short video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2VrK8EAHuU


The guy can hardly string a sentence together. Seems militant extemist gangs are pedaling heroin now, and raping non muslim girls. That's all of them mind, each and every one of them.


Aha!!

So by the same token, how can you tar all members of the WDL as racists??
I agree with MANY of their ideas re: immigration, colour doesnt come into
it. There are complete racist dickheads amongst them, and thats who we'll
see tonight. As for Islam... It is an untouchable religion. You cannot publicly
state that you think its a load of bollocks cos your a 'racist'.. you cannot call
it a third world cult that belongs back in the middle ages, for fear of being called a
'racist'.. and you definitely better not do anything as horrific as burn a Koran.
THATS MY honest opinion on Islam, and race does not come into it at all!!

Yet greasy smelly students are allowed to walk around Britain wearing 'Jesus
is a c*nt' T shirts

Catholic jokes, protestant jokes, jesus jokes, dirty old vicar jokes... you name
it and we can tell em. But in Britain (a christian country) you are NOT allowed
to poke a teasing finger at Islam.

And I'm sorry to say this, its cos people like your good self have been totally
brainwashed by the 'PC' new order

Good post!

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:22 pm

Sludge wrote:
Western Blue wrote:Totally agree with many of their views, but they are a poorly organised group that are going about things the wrong way if they are trying to stamp out the muslim exstremists from the country...

It will take alot more than a march, that just satrs a riot, and makes them look like the bad guys to the rest of the country. The rest of the country that probably agree with not wanting the muslims here...



I fully agree with not wanting extremists , murdering scum

but the programme tonight will show the english defence league singing songs about muslims in general

which goes against what they say they are ...against JUST extremists



Yea but that is the problem with them... I want the extremists out, but all these guys need some decent guidence, and a belief... Look at these taliban physcos, they are totaly absorbed in what they do, and so clever that none of us know who they are. Thats one good organised crime group !!! the days of standing toe to toe and fighting it out are over in my eyes (although a shame), it's going to take much more than that...

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:23 pm

taffyapple wrote:Aha!!

So by the same token, how can you tar all members of the WDL as racists??


Because it's a racist organisation and if you want to join it you're clearly racist.

Join a muslim extremist group and you are a muslim extremist.

Same same.

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:23 pm

davebb wrote:
jamccfc wrote:it's just the same as saying that all muslims are terrorists, all christians are murdering crusaders and all city fans are hooligans.
there are bad elements in all walks of life/religions/political parties, lets not tar all with the same brush and be able to listen to what is being said without a prejudiced view.


It's not really though is it? Being a muslim doesn't mean you're a terrorist, being a city fan doesn't mean you're hooligan, cctively joining the WDL and going on marches to support them does mean you are a racist.


Thats ridiculous. There ARE plenty of lads who just see Islam as a protected
religion, and they see British Society allowing Muslims to burn poppies and
call for the heads of British soldiers whilst arresting 15 yr old girls for burning
books!!!

THATS why a lot of them march. Its just a shame that A) racists attach themselves
to groups like this and B) The British establishment are absolutely determined that
the British people ONLY see the 'racist' bits.

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:28 pm

davebb wrote:
taffyapple wrote:Aha!!

So by the same token, how can you tar all members of the WDL as racists??


Because it's a racist organisation and if you want to join it you're clearly racist.

Join a muslim extremist group and you are a muslim extremist.

Same same.


I want Muslim extremists banned from our streets, I want them to be arrested
and jailed for slandering our troops, for burning poppies and for attacking MY
religion.

Erm that includes the WHITE muslims

Am I a racist?

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:29 pm

What grates me is that this country prides itself on being secular - which is great. However the political establishment need to be reminded t that Islam is also religion. Far too much special treatment.

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:03 pm

The whole programme was a joke

"The WDL and EDL are secretive organisations who only contact each
other through mobile phones, the internet and Facebook" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeh right, real KGB stuff that innit!

Even the copper interviewed stated that the vast majority of those on the marches
are law-abiding and doing nowt wrong

As for the voice recognition thing for Marshy? FFS i was in tears... he was hardly hiding
his identity with that facepaint on was he.

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:04 pm

As expected

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:26 pm

Billy Hunt. wrote:As expected


indeed , they did indeed come across as just a teeny bit racist

I mean what more evidence of extremist do you want than racist language and people standing behind swasticas and sitting on a bus singing songs against the " pakis "

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:29 pm

Sludge wrote:
Billy Hunt. wrote:As expected


indeed , they did indeed come across as just a teeny bit racist

I mean what more evidence of extremist do you want than racist language and people standing behind swasticas and sitting on a bus singing songs against the " pakis "

I hate Nazis just as much as those who were burning the poppys

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:32 pm

me too billy

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:32 pm

taffyapple wrote:The whole programme was a joke

"The WDL and EDL are secretive organisations who only contact each
other through mobile phones, the internet and Facebook" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeh right, real KGB stuff that innit!

Even the copper interviewed stated that the vast majority of those on the marches
are law-abiding and doing nowt wrong

As for the voice recognition thing for Marshy? FFS i was in tears... he was hardly hiding
his identity with that facepaint on was he.



the joke are the edl

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:36 pm

For the sake of balance , it has to be said that the WDL dont blow up buses or put high explosives in their shoes but it also has to be said that those WDL members represented in the programme came across as thick as shit.

Along with the Islamic terrorists they take ignorance to new heights.

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:40 pm

lets be honest here

wether the show was well made or not , the edl didnt come out of it with a lot of positives

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:41 pm

Israel flag? someone tell me what thats about why take them got nothing to do with what their so called meant to be marching for.

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:44 pm

alfie sherwood wrote:For the knuckledragging racists that they really are.

Week in week out. BBC Wales tonight.



What time? What channel?

Cheers :ayatollah:

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:48 pm

Llantrisant Blue. wrote:Israel flag? someone tell me what thats about why take them got nothing to do with what their so called meant to be marching for.


its to wind up the muslims

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:52 pm

Sludge wrote:lets be honest here

wether the show was well made or not , the edl didnt come out of it with a lot of positives

It wasn't supposed too

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:53 pm

BlueBalls 17 wrote:
alfie sherwood wrote:For the knuckledragging racists that they really are.

Week in week out. BBC Wales tonight.



What time? What channel?

Cheers :ayatollah:

Half hour ago, BBC 1

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:04 pm

While those featured in the program (i.e. the Jacks and that kid from Ponty) had horrible views, they were the minority. All groups attract undesireables - even mainstream political parties do. It's a fact of life, like Gordon Brown who used to be a self described Stalinist.

I thought it came across as very picky, clutching at some straws apart from the parts I mentioned already. Jeff Marsh uses different aliases online? Whoppdy do. He had silly face paint on, even though you could blates tell it was him? Yeeha.

Mainstream parties complain about 'the white working class' not being politically motivated ; when some of them do become involved in something that mobilizes them, that same establishment villanise them for not becoming indoctrinated into the Red, Blue or Yellow parties.

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:42 pm

There is talk of them turning up at Spytty Park over
The Christmas period to give out leaflets .....

Can't se it happening myself. They had the flag sellers removed from outside the
Ground at the end of last year

CTID

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:55 pm

cardiff city football club issued a statement distancing themsleves from this and quite right too , we dont want politics of the far right or indeed any extremism at ccfc , they made sure that cardiff citys badge etc was not associated with the edl

I would imagine county will do the same

Re: WDL to be exposed tonight

Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:59 pm

Sludge wrote:lets be honest here

wether the show was well made or not , the edl didnt come out of it with a lot of positives


Sludge My Honest Opinion wdl and edl came out of it like bunch of morons/idiots.

I want to cap immigration, but this lot looked a bunch of Morons.