Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:39 pm
carlccfc wrote:beddau blue wrote:thanks carl as a forum we need to keep an eye on the season ticket situation in feb,so we can try and get as many members together as poss to try and create an atmosphere as discussed previously,over to you annis![]()
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Annis is already in talks
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:41 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:42 pm
carlccfc wrote:beddau blue wrote:thanks carl as a forum we need to keep an eye on the season ticket situation in feb,so we can try and get as many members together as poss to try and create an atmosphere as discussed previously,over to you annis![]()
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Annis is already in talks
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:43 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:44 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:48 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:50 pm
ihatealiens wrote:so what are we saying here? Has Jones lost the dressing room? is there another. We haven't got another PNE result around the corner have we. This is getting familiar every season discord on the training field and in the dressing room - not good at all. Who is going to take a grip of the situation?
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:51 pm
carlccfc wrote:Firstly let me start with what I put in my last update regarding the injured players, I said that all 3 ( Blake, Burke and Naylor ) would be fit to play against Forest. I had this information from a source I do not usually use for team news but he does give me plenty of other info on club matters, in fairness I spoke with someone within the club this morning and I was told that Naylor had a late fitness test and he could have been risked but DJ decided to give him the extra time, Naylor had a groin strain.
Burke on the other hand is suffering with a thigh/hip problem and I have been told that he will be fit for QPR. Ultimately I decide what I write and I take the knocks for getting it wrong.
Chopra was taken off yesterday at half time for tactical reasons and there is no injury concern over him.
The players trained this week and they worked on many areas of Forest's game and one of the dangers that was spoken of and worked on was not to let Lewis McGugan get the ball on to his right foot within shooting distance, unfortunately Darcy Blake allowed it to happen and the coaching staff were not best pleased.
Behind the scenes tensions have been running high and there have been crossed words on the training pitch and in the changing room, as I said previously certain players were not happy with the team formation against Swansea and 2 of them let their feelings known.
My concern is, particularly at home, we seem to be playing more of a system that try's to stop the opposing team rather than play to our own strengths. Is Dave Jones feeling the pressure of assembling a quality squad and finding it difficult to accommodate everyone of his stars in it ?
Dave has been suffering with laryngitis this week and that was the reason that Terry Burton done the post match interviews, another who has been ill is Steve McPhail he has been suffering from tonsillitis. The reserve match against Swansea City has been cancelled because of the illness' to both.
I am hearing again this weekend that Jay Bothroyd is telling fellow players and staff at the club that he is willing to stay until his contact expires and will then decide on his future in the summer, it remains to be seen what the club's stance will be.
Chris Burke is another who is considering his options, I understand that Burke misses his son who lives in Scotland and will wait to see what options are open to him or if he can come to an agreement with his ex-wife over his son.
Gavin Rae has turned down loan moves recently as they have been to far away from his current home and I am told that unless it is a club local to us, such as Bristol then he will not be moving out on loan as he feels he will have to uproot his wife and young twins for a short term loan and then look for a permanent club again in the summer.
I mentioned a while ago that back in February of this year Adam Matthews was offered a contract that he was " in the main " happy with but with all the goings on the contract was never finalised, I am told know that both Adam and his agent, Lee Robinson, are increasingly upset at the lack of communication with the club over his contract. Matthews' current contract entitled him to a new and improved offer once he reached 25 appearances he has gone way beyond that and yet he is no closer to accepting an offer and the word is that Robinson actually doesn't know who is in control of such issues at the club. Very damming to say the least and it is another worry of mine that if DJ is in total control of such matters, as I believe and am told he is, then we as a club are in a very dangerous position, what would happen if DJ receives an offer to manage at another club and he accepts, where would that leave us ?
Most will know I am a fan of DJ but I am increasingly concerned at the apparent control he has over most issues at the club, never have I known a manager to be involved in so many issues and the worry is there is no infrastructure in place, as far as I can see, in case of certain eventualities. Maybe VT is looking at this and could this be the reason for U-Juin taking a more prominent role in future months. Also I have to say it, but when we suffer defeats and more importantly performances like against Swansea and yesterday against Forest, who questions DJ, who does he answer to ? In the past we know that PR will have called him in and even had rows in away changing rooms, as much as we despise PR at least he did ask the questions.
Dave Jones has told Vincent Tan that the squad needs reinforcements in January if they are to realise their target of a top 2 finish. It is my understanding that DJ has highlighted 3 positions down the spine of the team and he has been told that there will be money available for him to recruit.
The Malaysians are astutely aware of the season ticket fiasco of last Christmas and the club has previously stated it's intention to sell season tickets in the normal time frames as every other club but I can tell you that in fact the club will be putting 21,000 season tickets on sell in February of 2011, of which those who are platinum ambassadors will receive the first of the five year price freeze. I am told that the club are avoiding selling them before February so they are not seen to be heading down the same route as Peter Ridsdale. If they did sell the season tickets in December/January and didn't manage to get our desired transfer targets then the Chairman could possibly face criticism, which they wish to avoid.
The club has not finalised the way in which the fans will pay for the season tickets but I know they are looking at all the options.
Even though Premier seats are being sold all year round there has only been 950 sold and the club recognise this as a huge cock up from a commercial point of view and certainly a missed opportunity, in February there will be another drive to push the remaining 1550 premier seats and there will be a rebranding of the levels.
The away section holds 2018 for those who wish to know or even care.
I have mentioned Peter Ridsdale and again it seems he is taking his spin to other clubs, as I said last week, the latest in line is Oldham and he has made some big promises to them, he claims the American backers will buy the club and invest in the squad and stadium but I have it on good authority that in fact these Americans have no money but in fact will be borrowing money to buy the club then will pass the debt straight on to the club itself.
It seems that each club PR is targeting all have stadium in need off development and this is where he sees himself and others making money, I wonder if he will convince PMG to join him ?
The club is making positive strides off and on the pitch and it is clear to see but there are still issues especially in the commercial department where there has been redundancies recently, I am hearing that sales for the Centenary dinner on December 3rd have been very slow and in fact less than half have been taken, now I hope that the event takes place because of what it is and with the postponement of the Halloween dinner where only 11 tickets were sold and the end of year player awards cancelled in April for the first time since 1972, the club could do without having to cancel this event, which I am told is a consideration they are talking about at present, there will be a big drive throughout next week to attempt to sell more seats.
One of the staff made redundant was Suzanne Twamley and she has been employed by the FAW, I don't like to hear of anyone losing their job so congratulations to Suzanne for finding employment so soon.
Vincent Tan is looking to spend more and more time around the club so much so that some of his siblings are to be educated at a private boarding school in Brecon.
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:00 pm
since62 wrote:carlccfc wrote:Firstly let me start with what I put in my last update regarding the injured players, I said that all 3 ( Blake, Burke and Naylor ) would be fit to play against Forest. I had this information from a source I do not usually use for team news but he does give me plenty of other info on club matters, in fairness I spoke with someone within the club this morning and I was told that Naylor had a late fitness test and he could have been risked but DJ decided to give him the extra time, Naylor had a groin strain.
Burke on the other hand is suffering with a thigh/hip problem and I have been told that he will be fit for QPR. Ultimately I decide what I write and I take the knocks for getting it wrong.
Chopra was taken off yesterday at half time for tactical reasons and there is no injury concern over him.
The players trained this week and they worked on many areas of Forest's game and one of the dangers that was spoken of and worked on was not to let Lewis McGugan get the ball on to his right foot within shooting distance, unfortunately Darcy Blake allowed it to happen and the coaching staff were not best pleased.
Behind the scenes tensions have been running high and there have been crossed words on the training pitch and in the changing room, as I said previously certain players were not happy with the team formation against Swansea and 2 of them let their feelings known.
My concern is, particularly at home, we seem to be playing more of a system that try's to stop the opposing team rather than play to our own strengths. Is Dave Jones feeling the pressure of assembling a quality squad and finding it difficult to accommodate everyone of his stars in it ?
Dave has been suffering with laryngitis this week and that was the reason that Terry Burton done the post match interviews, another who has been ill is Steve McPhail he has been suffering from tonsillitis. The reserve match against Swansea City has been cancelled because of the illness' to both.
I am hearing again this weekend that Jay Bothroyd is telling fellow players and staff at the club that he is willing to stay until his contact expires and will then decide on his future in the summer, it remains to be seen what the club's stance will be.
Chris Burke is another who is considering his options, I understand that Burke misses his son who lives in Scotland and will wait to see what options are open to him or if he can come to an agreement with his ex-wife over his son.
Gavin Rae has turned down loan moves recently as they have been to far away from his current home and I am told that unless it is a club local to us, such as Bristol then he will not be moving out on loan as he feels he will have to uproot his wife and young twins for a short term loan and then look for a permanent club again in the summer.
I mentioned a while ago that back in February of this year Adam Matthews was offered a contract that he was " in the main " happy with but with all the goings on the contract was never finalised, I am told know that both Adam and his agent, Lee Robinson, are increasingly upset at the lack of communication with the club over his contract. Matthews' current contract entitled him to a new and improved offer once he reached 25 appearances he has gone way beyond that and yet he is no closer to accepting an offer and the word is that Robinson actually doesn't know who is in control of such issues at the club. Very damming to say the least and it is another worry of mine that if DJ is in total control of such matters, as I believe and am told he is, then we as a club are in a very dangerous position, what would happen if DJ receives an offer to manage at another club and he accepts, where would that leave us ?
Most will know I am a fan of DJ but I am increasingly concerned at the apparent control he has over most issues at the club, never have I known a manager to be involved in so many issues and the worry is there is no infrastructure in place, as far as I can see, in case of certain eventualities. Maybe VT is looking at this and could this be the reason for U-Juin taking a more prominent role in future months. Also I have to say it, but when we suffer defeats and more importantly performances like against Swansea and yesterday against Forest, who questions DJ, who does he answer to ? In the past we know that PR will have called him in and even had rows in away changing rooms, as much as we despise PR at least he did ask the questions.
Dave Jones has told Vincent Tan that the squad needs reinforcements in January if they are to realise their target of a top 2 finish. It is my understanding that DJ has highlighted 3 positions down the spine of the team and he has been told that there will be money available for him to recruit.
The Malaysians are astutely aware of the season ticket fiasco of last Christmas and the club has previously stated it's intention to sell season tickets in the normal time frames as every other club but I can tell you that in fact the club will be putting 21,000 season tickets on sell in February of 2011, of which those who are platinum ambassadors will receive the first of the five year price freeze. I am told that the club are avoiding selling them before February so they are not seen to be heading down the same route as Peter Ridsdale. If they did sell the season tickets in December/January and didn't manage to get our desired transfer targets then the Chairman could possibly face criticism, which they wish to avoid.
The club has not finalised the way in which the fans will pay for the season tickets but I know they are looking at all the options.
Even though Premier seats are being sold all year round there has only been 950 sold and the club recognise this as a huge cock up from a commercial point of view and certainly a missed opportunity, in February there will be another drive to push the remaining 1550 premier seats and there will be a rebranding of the levels.
The away section holds 2018 for those who wish to know or even care.
I have mentioned Peter Ridsdale and again it seems he is taking his spin to other clubs, as I said last week, the latest in line is Oldham and he has made some big promises to them, he claims the American backers will buy the club and invest in the squad and stadium but I have it on good authority that in fact these Americans have no money but in fact will be borrowing money to buy the club then will pass the debt straight on to the club itself.
It seems that each club PR is targeting all have stadium in need off development and this is where he sees himself and others making money, I wonder if he will convince PMG to join him ?
The club is making positive strides off and on the pitch and it is clear to see but there are still issues especially in the commercial department where there has been redundancies recently, I am hearing that sales for the Centenary dinner on December 3rd have been very slow and in fact less than half have been taken, now I hope that the event takes place because of what it is and with the postponement of the Halloween dinner where only 11 tickets were sold and the end of year player awards cancelled in April for the first time since 1972, the club could do without having to cancel this event, which I am told is a consideration they are talking about at present, there will be a big drive throughout next week to attempt to sell more seats.
One of the staff made redundant was Suzanne Twamley and she has been employed by the FAW, I don't like to hear of anyone losing their job so congratulations to Suzanne for finding employment so soon.
Vincent Tan is looking to spend more and more time around the club so much so that some of his siblings are to be educated at a private boarding school in Brecon.
When Annis said on Thursday that this would be a bigger update than normal , I thought he meant biiger news , not the length of the postThis one goes on longer than one of mine
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Couple of comments.
1)Didn`t we already know that the season tickets weren`t going on sale until Feb , because I seem to recall I commented on it on here several weeks ago? Or is it that it has only just been officially confirmed (haven`t seen anything on the club website)
2) This U-Jian thing. Who is telling you that he will be taking a more prominent role at the club in future months? Just a week or so ago he categorically stated to my face that there was no truth in that rumour and that he has no time or inclination to do so.This is because he is far too busy running his own businesses back in the Far East , particularly an oil exploration company and he also confirmed that his father is perfectly happy with those currently running CCFC on his behalf on a day to day basis.I may be wrong , but I can only confirm what the man himself said , and he was quite certain about it.
Interesting news on the player contract front. The sad fact remains that if a player is determined to maximise his own personal financial position (if he is a free transfer , the club he goes to can afford to pay him more money in wages) there is little or nothing the club can do about it in reality. I think this will happen more and more often with more and more players at more and more clubs in the future.
Its always sad to see the best players leave , but there is a limit beyond which the club shouldn`t go or we will be returning to the bad old days of vastly overpaying players more than they are worth (e.g Thorne , Capaldi , Feeney) or even what they would have accepted - I don`t blame those players , just the people we had in charge of the club at the time.
How old are the rest of Vincent Tan`s children (other than U-Jian) for them to be going to school? - he must have had them quite late in life.
Keith
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:06 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:08 pm
Forever Blue wrote:carlccfc wrote:beddau blue wrote:thanks carl as a forum we need to keep an eye on the season ticket situation in feb,so we can try and get as many members together as poss to try and create an atmosphere as discussed previously,over to you annis![]()
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Annis is already in talks
I have already spoken to someone and its looking
Q.Good so far.![]()
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:22 pm
carlccfc wrote:since62 wrote:carlccfc wrote:Firstly let me start with what I put in my last update regarding the injured players, I said that all 3 ( Blake, Burke and Naylor ) would be fit to play against Forest. I had this information from a source I do not usually use for team news but he does give me plenty of other info on club matters, in fairness I spoke with someone within the club this morning and I was told that Naylor had a late fitness test and he could have been risked but DJ decided to give him the extra time, Naylor had a groin strain.
Burke on the other hand is suffering with a thigh/hip problem and I have been told that he will be fit for QPR. Ultimately I decide what I write and I take the knocks for getting it wrong.
Chopra was taken off yesterday at half time for tactical reasons and there is no injury concern over him.
The players trained this week and they worked on many areas of Forest's game and one of the dangers that was spoken of and worked on was not to let Lewis McGugan get the ball on to his right foot within shooting distance, unfortunately Darcy Blake allowed it to happen and the coaching staff were not best pleased.
Behind the scenes tensions have been running high and there have been crossed words on the training pitch and in the changing room, as I said previously certain players were not happy with the team formation against Swansea and 2 of them let their feelings known.
My concern is, particularly at home, we seem to be playing more of a system that try's to stop the opposing team rather than play to our own strengths. Is Dave Jones feeling the pressure of assembling a quality squad and finding it difficult to accommodate everyone of his stars in it ?
Dave has been suffering with laryngitis this week and that was the reason that Terry Burton done the post match interviews, another who has been ill is Steve McPhail he has been suffering from tonsillitis. The reserve match against Swansea City has been cancelled because of the illness' to both.
I am hearing again this weekend that Jay Bothroyd is telling fellow players and staff at the club that he is willing to stay until his contact expires and will then decide on his future in the summer, it remains to be seen what the club's stance will be.
Chris Burke is another who is considering his options, I understand that Burke misses his son who lives in Scotland and will wait to see what options are open to him or if he can come to an agreement with his ex-wife over his son.
Gavin Rae has turned down loan moves recently as they have been to far away from his current home and I am told that unless it is a club local to us, such as Bristol then he will not be moving out on loan as he feels he will have to uproot his wife and young twins for a short term loan and then look for a permanent club again in the summer.
I mentioned a while ago that back in February of this year Adam Matthews was offered a contract that he was " in the main " happy with but with all the goings on the contract was never finalised, I am told know that both Adam and his agent, Lee Robinson, are increasingly upset at the lack of communication with the club over his contract. Matthews' current contract entitled him to a new and improved offer once he reached 25 appearances he has gone way beyond that and yet he is no closer to accepting an offer and the word is that Robinson actually doesn't know who is in control of such issues at the club. Very damming to say the least and it is another worry of mine that if DJ is in total control of such matters, as I believe and am told he is, then we as a club are in a very dangerous position, what would happen if DJ receives an offer to manage at another club and he accepts, where would that leave us ?
Most will know I am a fan of DJ but I am increasingly concerned at the apparent control he has over most issues at the club, never have I known a manager to be involved in so many issues and the worry is there is no infrastructure in place, as far as I can see, in case of certain eventualities. Maybe VT is looking at this and could this be the reason for U-Juin taking a more prominent role in future months. Also I have to say it, but when we suffer defeats and more importantly performances like against Swansea and yesterday against Forest, who questions DJ, who does he answer to ? In the past we know that PR will have called him in and even had rows in away changing rooms, as much as we despise PR at least he did ask the questions.
Dave Jones has told Vincent Tan that the squad needs reinforcements in January if they are to realise their target of a top 2 finish. It is my understanding that DJ has highlighted 3 positions down the spine of the team and he has been told that there will be money available for him to recruit.
The Malaysians are astutely aware of the season ticket fiasco of last Christmas and the club has previously stated it's intention to sell season tickets in the normal time frames as every other club but I can tell you that in fact the club will be putting 21,000 season tickets on sell in February of 2011, of which those who are platinum ambassadors will receive the first of the five year price freeze. I am told that the club are avoiding selling them before February so they are not seen to be heading down the same route as Peter Ridsdale. If they did sell the season tickets in December/January and didn't manage to get our desired transfer targets then the Chairman could possibly face criticism, which they wish to avoid.
The club has not finalised the way in which the fans will pay for the season tickets but I know they are looking at all the options.
Even though Premier seats are being sold all year round there has only been 950 sold and the club recognise this as a huge cock up from a commercial point of view and certainly a missed opportunity, in February there will be another drive to push the remaining 1550 premier seats and there will be a rebranding of the levels.
The away section holds 2018 for those who wish to know or even care.
I have mentioned Peter Ridsdale and again it seems he is taking his spin to other clubs, as I said last week, the latest in line is Oldham and he has made some big promises to them, he claims the American backers will buy the club and invest in the squad and stadium but I have it on good authority that in fact these Americans have no money but in fact will be borrowing money to buy the club then will pass the debt straight on to the club itself.
It seems that each club PR is targeting all have stadium in need off development and this is where he sees himself and others making money, I wonder if he will convince PMG to join him ?
The club is making positive strides off and on the pitch and it is clear to see but there are still issues especially in the commercial department where there has been redundancies recently, I am hearing that sales for the Centenary dinner on December 3rd have been very slow and in fact less than half have been taken, now I hope that the event takes place because of what it is and with the postponement of the Halloween dinner where only 11 tickets were sold and the end of year player awards cancelled in April for the first time since 1972, the club could do without having to cancel this event, which I am told is a consideration they are talking about at present, there will be a big drive throughout next week to attempt to sell more seats.
One of the staff made redundant was Suzanne Twamley and she has been employed by the FAW, I don't like to hear of anyone losing their job so congratulations to Suzanne for finding employment so soon.
Vincent Tan is looking to spend more and more time around the club so much so that some of his siblings are to be educated at a private boarding school in Brecon.
When Annis said on Thursday that this would be a bigger update than normal , I thought he meant biiger news , not the length of the postThis one goes on longer than one of mine
![]()
Couple of comments.
1)Didn`t we already know that the season tickets weren`t going on sale until Feb , because I seem to recall I commented on it on here several weeks ago? Or is it that it has only just been officially confirmed (haven`t seen anything on the club website)
2) This U-Jian thing. Who is telling you that he will be taking a more prominent role at the club in future months? Just a week or so ago he categorically stated to my face that there was no truth in that rumour and that he has no time or inclination to do so.This is because he is far too busy running his own businesses back in the Far East , particularly an oil exploration company and he also confirmed that his father is perfectly happy with those currently running CCFC on his behalf on a day to day basis.I may be wrong , but I can only confirm what the man himself said , and he was quite certain about it.
Interesting news on the player contract front. The sad fact remains that if a player is determined to maximise his own personal financial position (if he is a free transfer , the club he goes to can afford to pay him more money in wages) there is little or nothing the club can do about it in reality. I think this will happen more and more often with more and more players at more and more clubs in the future.
Its always sad to see the best players leave , but there is a limit beyond which the club shouldn`t go or we will be returning to the bad old days of vastly overpaying players more than they are worth (e.g Thorne , Capaldi , Feeney) or even what they would have accepted - I don`t blame those players , just the people we had in charge of the club at the time.
How old are the rest of Vincent Tan`s children (other than U-Jian) for them to be going to school? - he must have had them quite late in life.
Keith
Keith regarding your first question you will not find it on the official site just yet, you just have to trust me on it![]()
and your second question, I would not give a name of a source at the club who tells me but I believe that what I am being told is in fact true, did you really expect U-Juin to say that he was going to be taking over certain issues in the club prior to it happening ? No I thought not![]()
And didn't it get announced last week that U-Juin will be joining the football club's board of directors ?
Vincent Tan has grandchildren too I believe
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:30 pm
krab wrote:carl,does this mean that if jay stays till end of contract he can go and city get nothing
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:35 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:38 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:43 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:06 pm
Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:48 am
Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:52 am
Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:26 am
The Premier 1 wrote:3 days, 3 bloody days w ehave been waiting for that annis because of you, three bloody days you here me, OY annis three bluddy days, geeesus H christ 3 bluddy days
i blam ryou ANNIS I blame youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
PS cheers carl
Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:54 am
Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:39 am
carlccfc wrote: Also I have to say it, but when we suffer defeats and more importantly performances like against Swansea and yesterday against Forest, who questions DJ, who does he answer to ? In the past we know that PR will have called him in and even had rows in away changing rooms, as much as we despise PR at least he did ask the questions.
Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:55 am
Gerry Hat Trick wrote:carlccfc wrote: Also I have to say it, but when we suffer defeats and more importantly performances like against Swansea and yesterday against Forest, who questions DJ, who does he answer to ? In the past we know that PR will have called him in and even had rows in away changing rooms, as much as we despise PR at least he did ask the questions.
An excellent position for a certain Mr Hamam to take up.
Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:10 pm
Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:04 pm
quadsas wrote:Gerry Hat Trick wrote:carlccfc wrote: Also I have to say it, but when we suffer defeats and more importantly performances like against Swansea and yesterday against Forest, who questions DJ, who does he answer to ? In the past we know that PR will have called him in and even had rows in away changing rooms, as much as we despise PR at least he did ask the questions.
An excellent position for a certain Mr Hamam to take up.
exactly. Sam wouldnt let DJ f**k up once again
Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:32 pm
Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:01 pm
Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:58 pm
Cefnfforestbluebird wrote:that girl who has been laid off suzanne is that the same one who was there in the 1990's blonde curly hair did a lot with the commercial side of the club?
Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:00 pm
Gerry Hat Trick wrote:carlccfc wrote: Also I have to say it, but when we suffer defeats and more importantly performances like against Swansea and yesterday against Forest, who questions DJ, who does he answer to ? In the past we know that PR will have called him in and even had rows in away changing rooms, as much as we despise PR at least he did ask the questions.
An excellent position for a certain Mr Hamam to take up.
Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:01 pm
darboy wrote:trouble at mill again-----is this the reason for the crap performances?