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Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:49 pm

I am as surprised as everybody else that Man Utd had scouts at Scunthorpe looking at Jay but the fact remains they were there, do I think Man Utd will sign Jay then my answer would be no.

But whatever happens we must keep hold of Jay until the end of the season or we could really struggle.

If Jay did leave in January or at the end of the season then I would thank him for his efforts in a City shirt and wish him all the best.

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:50 pm

RichardBluebird wrote:I think we are getting ahead of ourselves, do you really think that Jay is good enough for Man Utd. I would imagine they would set their sights a lot higher than Jay with all respect.


Personally I think Jay would be a perfect foil for Wayne Rooney.

Actually I emailed the FA back in June suggesting to Fabio Capello that including Jay, Whits and Chops in the World Cup squad would be a masterstroke.

He didn't reply which was his loss, but he can still redeem himself by taking a closer look at our English qualified players.

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:52 pm

carlccfc wrote:I am as surprised as everybody else that Man Utd had scouts at Scunthorpe looking at Jay but the fact remains they were there, do I think Man Utd will sign Jay then my answer would be no.

But whatever happens we must keep hold of Jay until the end of the season or we could really struggle.

If Jay did leave in January or at the end of the season then I would thank him for his efforts in a City shirt and wish him all the best.


Being serious I think this kind of thing is pretty normal when a player gets a surprise international call up. I can remember Ninian Park being packed with scouts when Lee Jarman got a surprise call up to the Welsh squad when Bobby Gould was in charge.

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:53 pm

need to sort his conract out ASAP me thinks must speculate to accumulate

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:13 pm

Firstly I think we should all calm down here...

We are TOP of the fifth biggest league in Europe (money, crowd wise..after Prem, LL, SA and Bund)...so, you know, he's gonna get attention isn't he?

Remember he was always the unfulfilled talent Jay...been shite at Blackburn and Coventry since a stella youth career at the Arse.

He's come to a decent league and done decent last year (we hardly went up as fuckin Champions..a la the Geordies and Carrol and co did we?)...so you know? Be cool.

The kid has been decent this year..but Man U? Like someone said...his agent must be rubbing his hands...and remember these parasites...all they care about is their 12.5%..Cardiff City? Helping him along? Your having a laugh mate aren't you? Stoke are into him for 30 a week so he's OFSKI!!

What's actually draw dropping is City fans going on about him making the England squad and creaming themselves like a bunch of JLS fans who've just managed to get tickets...
We're a WELSH club...always have been. We ARE Wales's away support...who gives a f**k about England?
Congrats my arse...you think English team managers are happy when a player comes to play for us? Or their fans?
to say congrats is like thanking someone burgling your house....get fuckin real.

If he goes..let him go. Not one modern player will stay at a club he doesn't want too...not one.
Ronaldo was at the joint biggest club in the world..and went to the other.
If Jay (and his agent) wants to go...let him go.
We cant do f**k all about it....so let's get some cash at least.

Personally I'd like to see him stay. He's been great this year...but I'd rather keep Bellamy.
After all, he didn't take us up last year did he? And we all know that he came off in the P/O final...and the rumours about playing on etc..

The fact of the matter is this.
Players..managers...chairman...they are all transient...and we are Cardiff City fans.
We have to calm down and realise the club will go on.
Panicking about Jay going isn't going to help.
Sure he'll help us go up...but if HE and his agent wants to go then nothing we can do about that is there.
Let's see if we can keep him till we make the Prem..and then take it from there.
But either way, Man U? England? My guess is another Ledley, Jerome or Chops...
Life will go on. ;)

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:15 pm

Why on earth would Newcastle want Jay when they already have Carroll? Surely they are very similar in style (on the pitch, that is!) - though I would say Jay has a lot more skill. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:29 pm

RichardBluebird wrote:
welshdougie wrote:
maccydee wrote:Jay is happy at Cardiff loves the area he just wants a contract that matches his importance to the team.


cant blame up for that :ayatollah:


RichardBluebird wrote:I think we are getting ahead of ourselves, do you really think that Jay is good enough for Man Utd. I would imagine they would set their sights a lot higher than Jay with all respect.


some big clubs like man utd will buy a player like jay then loan him out, as he develops as a player they will then call him back..... a big club like man utd could afford to do this with jay :ayatollah:



He is 28



LMAOFAFOMGPMSL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:36 pm

cheers for that carl, i still believe the club should not be held to rason by a player, but if his wage is as low as that and we know what others are on and have been paid and not provided the good jay is then yes he should get paid.

by the way when is the england squad named ?????????

Re: " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:45 pm

so if the club know he'll proberly go, why not offer him like 20k a week with the option that if a club enquires about him, we tell jay, and wont stop him if he wants to go!!! so basically we get lots of cash for him!

and to be fair to DJ and his team for getting him playing like he is, maybe its time for jay to repay that by signing a contract allowing us to get some money for him

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:51 pm

Jonathan Owen wrote:Firstly I think we should all calm down here...

We are TOP of the fifth biggest league in Europe (money, crowd wise..after Prem, LL, SA and Bund)...so, you know, he's gonna get attention isn't he?

Remember he was always the unfulfilled talent Jay...been shite at Blackburn and Coventry since a stella youth career at the Arse.

He's come to a decent league and done decent last year (we hardly went up as fuckin Champions..a la the Geordies and Carrol and co did we?)...so you know? Be cool.

The kid has been decent this year..but Man U? Like someone said...his agent must be rubbing his hands...and remember these parasites...all they care about is their 12.5%..Cardiff City? Helping him along? Your having a laugh mate aren't you? Stoke are into him for 30 a week so he's OFSKI!!

What's actually draw dropping is City fans going on about him making the England squad and creaming themselves like a bunch of JLS fans who've just managed to get tickets...
We're a WELSH club...always have been. We ARE Wales's away support...who gives a f**k about England?
Congrats my arse...you think English team managers are happy when a player comes to play for us? Or their fans?
to say congrats is like thanking someone burgling your house....get fuckin real.

If he goes..let him go. Not one modern player will stay at a club he doesn't want too...not one.
Ronaldo was at the joint biggest club in the world..and went to the other.
If Jay (and his agent) wants to go...let him go.
We cant do f**k all about it....so let's get some cash at least.

Personally I'd like to see him stay. He's been great this year...but I'd rather keep Bellamy.
After all, he didn't take us up last year did he? And we all know that he came off in the P/O final...and the rumours about playing on etc..

The fact of the matter is this.
Players..managers...chairman...they are all transient...and we are Cardiff City fans.
We have to calm down and realise the club will go on.
Panicking about Jay going isn't going to help.
Sure he'll help us go up...but if HE and his agent wants to go then nothing we can do about that is there.
Let's see if we can keep him till we make the Prem..and then take it from there.
But either way, Man U? England? My guess is another Ledley, Jerome or Chops...
Life will go on. ;)



There is absolutely nothing else to say, well done Jonny boy :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:14 pm

I would love for jay to stay and sign a new contract but lets remember players and managers come and go but us the fans we are always there for ever :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:21 pm

gagsey wrote:I would love for jay to stay and sign a new contract but lets remember players and managers come and go but us the fans we are always there for ever :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

COULD NOT AGREE MORE :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:30 pm

I like most city fans am a big Jay fan and would be over the moon if he signed a new 3-4 year contract, but at the same time I cannot believe how much speculation it's causing, if he wants to go for what ever reason, well I'd wish him well and concentrate on getting someone in who wants to play for us. At the end of the day CCFC will be here long after jays days and with all the greatest respect is far bigger than Jay, chops, Burke or whoever. We'll go up this season automatically easy so if Jay wants premiership football sign on the dotted line mate!
:ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:42 pm

Carl, I have to Admit I was Wrong I never thought Jay was this good, Feeney use to say, Jay was one of the most Talented players he had seen, but Jay was to lazy and laid back and that was why Jay was still in this league, BUT THIS SEASON, Jay HAS FINALLY PULLED OUT OF ALL THAT and IS ON FIRE, Feeney said if he did that, Jay would be a REAL CLASS ACT :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:24 pm

The way i see it and i must admit i am totally pissed now; but we have two choices which are sell Jay in January for between 3 to 5 million which as got be his value with all the interest in him. Or we keep Jay until May and if we go up we can offer him a decent contract and it's then down to him and his agent if he accepts or not.

But what Jay as to remember is that it is Dave Jones who has got him playing the way he is now if he had a different manager would still perform the same???

But as Jonny Owen said we are City fans and we have seen players come and go and personally i was devastated when Earnie went and before that Kavanagh but players and Managers and Chairmen all come and go but the Club is all about the fans and we will be there no matter what :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:04 am

ackers1927 wrote:Why did we go in with such a low offer in the first place. Totally unprofessional.

How low down the players wage list would Jay have been on 8k a week?


Its APPALLING!!

I had no idea he was on so little to begin with, but to offer him a pay rise
of less than 15% is insulting given what he's doing for us!!

In fact i suspect they've done it because they dont want to keep him and prefer
the money in January. I'm disgusted

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:46 am

Bigbluebird wrote:Man Utd..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

That did make me chuckle!

He stays with us regardless of what HE wants to do...we own his ass till the 1st July....

Let him get us promoted then if he wants to go he can....if we don't get promoted then let him go for a free and with our best wishes!! :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


100% correct. What is a Prem Club going to offer us in Jan for someone on a reported £7k whose contract is up in May? £1m? £2m if that club's really looking down the barrel of relegation? Yes. Clubs would be mental to offer anymore.

Jay won't sign a new contract this season and why should he? But that also means he goes nowhere in January unless we say he does - and we won't because £1m/£2m now compared to the riches promotion will bring us is a 'no brainer' and I'll bet our Malaysians realise this.

If we fail to go up then Jay walks away for nothing (rather than the £1m we might get now) and if that happens then he certainly goes with my blessings and that sentiment should be echoed by every Bluebird. If we go up, then I'm sure he'd be the first name on the Board's list and he'll more than likely become the Club's highest ever earner. And, unless we really are talking about an offer from Man U, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea etc - then he'll sign for us. If you can have a good agent then Sky Andrews is one of those and it won't be lost on Jay that it's Cardiff City, us fans and most importantly Dave Jones that has got him (with his own undoubted talent) to where he is now: full England squad and on the radar of Premier League clubs

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:17 am

["Forever Blue"]Carl, I have to Admit I was Wrong I never thought Jay was this good, Feeney use to say, Jay was one of the most Talented players he had seen, but Jay was to lazy and laid back and that was why Jay was still in this league, BUT THIS SEASON, Jay HAS FINALLY PULLED OUT OF ALL THAT and IS ON FIRE, Feeney said if he did that, Jay would be a REAL CLASS ACT :ayatollah: :ayatollah:[/quote]



lets not forget the talented players that surround jay and are probably giving him the best service of his career.

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:19 am

Everybody seems to be mentioning ManUre, it's the other clubs that were there that we should be worrying about.

At the end of the day we should be paying Jay handsomely to reflect his importance to the team!! He's our most important player IMO and the club should recognise this and "stump up the cash" before these other clubs come knocking, because they will certainly "stump up the cash".

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:06 am

It would gave to be an amazing offer from the prem to warrant selling him, we should hold onto him til the end of the season gambling on the fact that his goals will get us automatic promo.
I can't see anyone offering us big money because he is so late into his contract, let's offer him a improved deal and if he won't expect keep him til end of season and gamble on his goals gaining us promo :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:32 am

Carl

I think this should be viewed at a positive thing if we were not doing so well other clubs would not be looking at our players, we pulled Jay out of the gutter and I know theres no loyalty in football, if he goes (and I hope he dont) then I think he will be making the biggest mistake in his career, we get the best out of him and play to his style, I dont think bigger clubs would do that he would have to fit into thier style of play look at berbatov for example-world beater at spurs rubbish (in my opinion) at man u,

So come on city sort the guy out with a decent contract or we MUST sell him in jan and bring in a able replacement!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:01 pm

Jay Bothroyd is a special player there is no doubt about that, for me he is the most important player we have in the team and without him we struggle.

I understand what some are saying that players come and go but for christs sake while we have the like of Bothroyd with the talent he possesses then we must use it to it's maximum, I are not getting carried but I realise how we need Jay to stand a realistic chance of automatic promotion, for crying out loud, there were 12 scouts from the Premier League and the Championship, which included Man Utd, he has received a call up to the England squad whilst playing in the Championship, not only must we keep hold of Jay we need to go one further and get someone in January who is equal or better than him to really build a squad capable of promotion.

So City get it sorted and sign the guy up, offer him a contract that will pay the appropriate wage based on what division we are in come August next year, also give him the incentives to to score the goals and deliver the performances to get us up.

Re: JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE

Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:37 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
carlccfc wrote:I am as surprised as everybody else that Man Utd had scouts at Scunthorpe looking at Jay but the fact remains they were there, do I think Man Utd will sign Jay then my answer would be no.

But whatever happens we must keep hold of Jay until the end of the season or we could really struggle.

If Jay did leave in January or at the end of the season then I would thank him for his efforts in a City shirt and wish him all the best.


Being serious I think this kind of thing is pretty normal when a player gets a surprise international call up. I can remember Ninian Park being packed with scouts when Lee Jarman got a surprise call up to the Welsh squad when Bobby Gould was in charge.


and Jenner Park was packed to the rafters when he picked Gary Lloyd !

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:49 pm

I would Pay him 30k a week to keep him at the club, he is a great player. :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:53 pm

We could offer him £15 this season.
£25 K next plus bonus and a £ 2 Million transfer fee get out if we miss out on promotion.

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:55 pm

Manure watch loads of players.They don't sign them all though. :D

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:10 pm

what was that lads name we sold to birmingham a few years ago..... small arrogant little tw*t who was scoring like f**k?

ummmmmmm forgot now?

jonesy always gets soeone to pop em in the net....just remember that the grass is never greener

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:08 pm

Jerome ?? He was'nt small :lol:

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:20 pm

Everton fans seem to think he is on the way to them in jan, any truth in this

Re: Sticky : " JAY BOTHROYD UPDATE 13th NOV 2010 "

Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:24 pm

dean wrote:Everton fans seem to think he is on the way to them in jan, any truth in this


well he have to get threw beckford the other young guy they got, yakubu lol they got few of them at everton, i could see villa popping up