Wed Sep 30, 2026 3:27 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:You can add lipstick, a wig, high heels and even a short skirt to it but it's still a pig in the end no matter what anyone says or tries to twist the truth they cheated and been caught out breaking rules galore that's the facts and they will get what's coming to them.
The same as any sport you cheat to gain an advantage you will get punished if caught. People will try to dress this up as it's all good somehow which is rather bizarre and deluded in my opinion even after there owners have been proven to try cheat the systems rules in the prem.
Sky sports news has turned in to Man city news all other sport is void apparently![]()
It's the fan's I feel sorry for in the end whatever happens.
Wed Sep 30, 2026 3:27 pm
Starvinmarvin wrote:Sven wrote:Starvinmarvin wrote:Sven wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:So Man City pay all they bills invest in the area create loads of jobs and bring in lots of extra tax for schools hospitals etc. are the bad guys and should be kicked out. Yet teams like bury are badly run didn’t pay their bills and left local businesses out of pocket and probably worse and took jobs from people. And they the victims and should have been helped more. I just don’t get it? Seems more people upset they took titles from their beloved Liverpool and Man U. Shame more owners don’t break up the top tier clubs that everyone bending over backwards to protect.
That’s a skewed view, as Citeh (and other clubs who invest in their communities) can do so without cooking the books. The basic ‘issue’ is they knowingly broke the rules, covered it up, denied it, and refused to cooperate with the investigations
According to the rules in place, Citeh cheated their way to titles, cups, and status, and deserve to be punished; and I’d say the same fir any team that gets found doing similar, even if that was our own
Rules and standards are important and if clubs are not happy, they can lobby to get them changed rather than circumnavigating them!
Cheating is just spending more money though isn't it. It didn't put the club in danger which the rules are designed to stop, every one of these clubs is inventive with their book keeping and some just get away with things (United 40m COVID). No idea what your issue with City seems to be, I wish we had owners like that
It goes way beyond ‘just spending money’ though, doesn’t it? Look at what they ‘won’ unfairly during that period for starters
My personal opinion of FFP (or whatever it’s now called) is pretty low, and I think clubs should be able to spend more of their owners money, if (the key word) they can afford it. But rules is rules, and they’ve been caught. Others (I’m sure they are out there being ‘inventive’ with their books) may or may not follow, and judgement on them made at that point
I never had an issue with Citeh until this. In my book, it was a blatant action to gain an advantage, and against the rules in place, and I repeat, I’d say the same of any club who did similar
The spirit of those rules that they broke where to stop teams going to the wall. A few elite teams have decided that they can use that to block everyone else ever challenging them. That's cheating just because you've managed to get some idiot to write it into the laws doesn't make it right. I'd much prefer a system where a billionaire can come to your club and your suddenly a top team than it be the same few clubs forever because they've managed to become big enough to sell T-shirts in Asia. I hope City win the title and stick it to all the plastic fans around the country
Wed Sep 30, 2026 3:30 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:You can add lipstick, a wig, high heels and even a short skirt to it but it's still a pig in the end no matter what anyone says or tries to twist the truth they cheated and been caught out breaking rules galore that's the facts and they will get what's coming to them.
The same as any sport you cheat to gain an advantage you will get punished if caught. People will try to dress this up as it's all good somehow which is rather bizarre and deluded in my opinion even after there owners have been proven to try cheat the systems rules in the prem.
Sky sports news has turned in to Man city news all other sport is void apparently![]()
It's the fan's I feel sorry for in the end whatever happens.
Sounds like Caroline Street at 2 in the morning!
Wed Sep 30, 2026 3:35 pm
Sven wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:So Man City pay all they bills invest in the area create loads of jobs and bring in lots of extra tax for schools hospitals etc. are the bad guys and should be kicked out. Yet teams like bury are badly run didn’t pay their bills and left local businesses out of pocket and probably worse and took jobs from people. And they the victims and should have been helped more. I just don’t get it? Seems more people upset they took titles from their beloved Liverpool and Man U. Shame more owners don’t break up the top tier clubs that everyone bending over backwards to protect.
That’s a skewed view, as Citeh (and other clubs who invest in their communities) can do so without cooking the books. The basic ‘issue’ is they knowingly broke the rules, covered it up, denied it, and refused to cooperate with the investigations
According to the rules in place, Citeh cheated their way to titles, cups, and status, and deserve to be punished; and I’d say the same fir any team that gets found doing similar, even if that was our own
Rules and standards are important and if clubs are not happy, they can lobby to get them changed rather than circumnavigating them!
Wed Sep 30, 2026 4:20 pm
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Sven wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:So Man City pay all they bills invest in the area create loads of jobs and bring in lots of extra tax for schools hospitals etc. are the bad guys and should be kicked out. Yet teams like bury are badly run didn’t pay their bills and left local businesses out of pocket and probably worse and took jobs from people. And they the victims and should have been helped more. I just don’t get it? Seems more people upset they took titles from their beloved Liverpool and Man U. Shame more owners don’t break up the top tier clubs that everyone bending over backwards to protect.
That’s a skewed view, as Citeh (and other clubs who invest in their communities) can do so without cooking the books. The basic ‘issue’ is they knowingly broke the rules, covered it up, denied it, and refused to cooperate with the investigations
According to the rules in place, Citeh cheated their way to titles, cups, and status, and deserve to be punished; and I’d say the same fir any team that gets found doing similar, even if that was our own
Rules and standards are important and if clubs are not happy, they can lobby to get them changed rather than circumnavigating them!
I’m not saying they didn’t break the rules set out to look after the traditional big clubs I accept that. But before city got some money it was pretty boring with Man U winning everything and no one with a hope of ever catching them bar Liverpool of Arsenal if they got lucky.
But where was the outcry when bury got caught cheating and ruining small local businesses? Because they weren’t a threat to the big teams every one feels sorry for them. It’s double standards.
I hope they get a little fine and we get on with it, save the big punishment for the criminals that didn’t pay up the local businesses and ruined lives.
Wed Sep 30, 2026 4:20 pm
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Sven wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:So Man City pay all they bills invest in the area create loads of jobs and bring in lots of extra tax for schools hospitals etc. are the bad guys and should be kicked out. Yet teams like bury are badly run didn’t pay their bills and left local businesses out of pocket and probably worse and took jobs from people. And they the victims and should have been helped more. I just don’t get it? Seems more people upset they took titles from their beloved Liverpool and Man U. Shame more owners don’t break up the top tier clubs that everyone bending over backwards to protect.
That’s a skewed view, as Citeh (and other clubs who invest in their communities) can do so without cooking the books. The basic ‘issue’ is they knowingly broke the rules, covered it up, denied it, and refused to cooperate with the investigations
According to the rules in place, Citeh cheated their way to titles, cups, and status, and deserve to be punished; and I’d say the same fir any team that gets found doing similar, even if that was our own
Rules and standards are important and if clubs are not happy, they can lobby to get them changed rather than circumnavigating them!
I’m not saying they didn’t break the rules set out to look after the traditional big clubs I accept that. But before city got some money it was pretty boring with Man U winning everything and no one with a hope of ever catching them bar Liverpool of Arsenal if they got lucky.
But where was the outcry when bury got caught cheating and ruining small local businesses? Because they weren’t a threat to the big teams every one feels sorry for them. It’s double standards.
I hope they get a little fine and we get on with it, save the big punishment for the criminals that didn’t pay up the local businesses and ruined lives.
Wed Sep 30, 2026 4:47 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:You can add lipstick, a wig, high heels and even a short skirt to it but it's still a pig in the end no matter what anyone says or tries to twist the truth they cheated and been caught out breaking rules galore that's the facts and they will get what's coming to them.
The same as any sport you cheat to gain an advantage you will get punished if caught. People will try to dress this up as it's all good somehow which is rather bizarre and deluded in my opinion even after there owners have been proven to try cheat the systems rules in the prem.
Sky sports news has turned in to Man city news all other sport is void apparently![]()
It's the fan's I feel sorry for in the end whatever happens.
Wed Sep 30, 2026 6:10 pm
Wed Sep 30, 2026 6:46 pm
froggy1927 wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:You can add lipstick, a wig, high heels and even a short skirt to it but it's still a pig in the end no matter what anyone says or tries to twist the truth they cheated and been caught out breaking rules galore that's the facts and they will get what's coming to them.
The same as any sport you cheat to gain an advantage you will get punished if caught. People will try to dress this up as it's all good somehow which is rather bizarre and deluded in my opinion even after there owners have been proven to try cheat the systems rules in the prem.
Sky sports news has turned in to Man city news all other sport is void apparently![]()
It's the fan's I feel sorry for in the end whatever happens.
Yes I don't get why people would jump to their defence
I understand what they mean regarding ffp being invented to protect the big clubs
But clubs like man utd had to earn those top spots in the first place
I know Liverpool spent a lot in the 80s but when man utd started their dominance in the early 90s clubs like spurs, Everton and even wolves were spending more than utd
So I can see why clubs like man u wouldn't be happy that city went from mid table at best, to serial winners just because they suddenly had money to spend and to make it worse they intentionally broke the rules and covered it up to get there
They are cheats simple as that and if any other clubs are doing the same then I hope they get the same treatment as man city
Wed Sep 30, 2026 7:54 pm
Wed Sep 30, 2026 8:00 pm
Starvinmarvin wrote:froggy1927 wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:You can add lipstick, a wig, high heels and even a short skirt to it but it's still a pig in the end no matter what anyone says or tries to twist the truth they cheated and been caught out breaking rules galore that's the facts and they will get what's coming to them.
The same as any sport you cheat to gain an advantage you will get punished if caught. People will try to dress this up as it's all good somehow which is rather bizarre and deluded in my opinion even after there owners have been proven to try cheat the systems rules in the prem.
Sky sports news has turned in to Man city news all other sport is void apparently![]()
It's the fan's I feel sorry for in the end whatever happens.
Yes I don't get why people would jump to their defence
I understand what they mean regarding ffp being invented to protect the big clubs
But clubs like man utd had to earn those top spots in the first place
I know Liverpool spent a lot in the 80s but when man utd started their dominance in the early 90s clubs like spurs, Everton and even wolves were spending more than utd
So I can see why clubs like man u wouldn't be happy that city went from mid table at best, to serial winners just because they suddenly had money to spend and to make it worse they intentionally broke the rules and covered it up to get there
They are cheats simple as that and if any other clubs are doing the same then I hope they get the same treatment as man city
It's pretty obvious why I don't understand why anyone would see this as some sort of victory for fairness or football. They broke the rules yes, does it make the rules right? Not for me. City have owners who respect the club and community while being loved by their fans. Your cheering on an outcome that suits a bunch of greedy American billionaires. Please explain to me how the buying United then paying for it by leveraging the club is all fine and dandy but some Arabs spending their own money to fund a really good football team is wrong
Wed Sep 30, 2026 8:14 pm
froggy1927 wrote:Starvinmarvin wrote:froggy1927 wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:You can add lipstick, a wig, high heels and even a short skirt to it but it's still a pig in the end no matter what anyone says or tries to twist the truth they cheated and been caught out breaking rules galore that's the facts and they will get what's coming to them.
The same as any sport you cheat to gain an advantage you will get punished if caught. People will try to dress this up as it's all good somehow which is rather bizarre and deluded in my opinion even after there owners have been proven to try cheat the systems rules in the prem.
Sky sports news has turned in to Man city news all other sport is void apparently![]()
It's the fan's I feel sorry for in the end whatever happens.
Yes I don't get why people would jump to their defence
I understand what they mean regarding ffp being invented to protect the big clubs
But clubs like man utd had to earn those top spots in the first place
I know Liverpool spent a lot in the 80s but when man utd started their dominance in the early 90s clubs like spurs, Everton and even wolves were spending more than utd
So I can see why clubs like man u wouldn't be happy that city went from mid table at best, to serial winners just because they suddenly had money to spend and to make it worse they intentionally broke the rules and covered it up to get there
They are cheats simple as that and if any other clubs are doing the same then I hope they get the same treatment as man city
It's pretty obvious why I don't understand why anyone would see this as some sort of victory for fairness or football. They broke the rules yes, does it make the rules right? Not for me. City have owners who respect the club and community while being loved by their fans. Your cheering on an outcome that suits a bunch of greedy American billionaires. Please explain to me how the buying United then paying for it by leveraging the club is all fine and dandy but some Arabs spending their own money to fund a really good football team is wrong
It's wrong because it isn't fair on the other clubs and I'm not talking about just the arsenal's and man utds even the smaller clubs
Ffp is crippling football clubs in the championship and that includes us
Do you think it's fair that smaller clubs are having to asset strip just to stay in existence while man city get to just keep buying the best players in the world and winning trophies when they never even got there on merit to begin with
We can be jealous of clubs like Arsenal and Man u but at least those clubs got there on merit
The irony is Man City have become what people say Man utd were and yet want to put their arm around them and pretend they are victims
Wed Sep 30, 2026 9:00 pm
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:froggy1927 wrote:Starvinmarvin wrote:froggy1927 wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:You can add lipstick, a wig, high heels and even a short skirt to it but it's still a pig in the end no matter what anyone says or tries to twist the truth they cheated and been caught out breaking rules galore that's the facts and they will get what's coming to them.
The same as any sport you cheat to gain an advantage you will get punished if caught. People will try to dress this up as it's all good somehow which is rather bizarre and deluded in my opinion even after there owners have been proven to try cheat the systems rules in the prem.
Sky sports news has turned in to Man city news all other sport is void apparently![]()
It's the fan's I feel sorry for in the end whatever happens.
Yes I don't get why people would jump to their defence
I understand what they mean regarding ffp being invented to protect the big clubs
But clubs like man utd had to earn those top spots in the first place
I know Liverpool spent a lot in the 80s but when man utd started their dominance in the early 90s clubs like spurs, Everton and even wolves were spending more than utd
So I can see why clubs like man u wouldn't be happy that city went from mid table at best, to serial winners just because they suddenly had money to spend and to make it worse they intentionally broke the rules and covered it up to get there
They are cheats simple as that and if any other clubs are doing the same then I hope they get the same treatment as man city
It's pretty obvious why I don't understand why anyone would see this as some sort of victory for fairness or football. They broke the rules yes, does it make the rules right? Not for me. City have owners who respect the club and community while being loved by their fans. Your cheering on an outcome that suits a bunch of greedy American billionaires. Please explain to me how the buying United then paying for it by leveraging the club is all fine and dandy but some Arabs spending their own money to fund a really good football team is wrong
It's wrong because it isn't fair on the other clubs and I'm not talking about just the arsenal's and man utds even the smaller clubs
Ffp is crippling football clubs in the championship and that includes us
Do you think it's fair that smaller clubs are having to asset strip just to stay in existence while man city get to just keep buying the best players in the world and winning trophies when they never even got there on merit to begin with
We can be jealous of clubs like Arsenal and Man u but at least those clubs got there on merit
The irony is Man City have become what people say Man utd were and yet want to put their arm around them and pretend they are victims
I see them. As doing a favour for small clubs, they weren’t not that long ago bunch have managed to break up the big clubs. What they do could help all the smaller clubs because it’s shows how ridiculous the rules really are. The only chance Cardiff have of ever competing probably is if the rules are taken away and some rich guy wants to spend his money. It amazes me that you happy they can keep us restrained at arms length to do nothing more than make up the numbers.