Vote: Would You Fight For This Country

But you're not fighting for the government so that shouldn't make any difference at all.

This government is currently prosecuting Vets for NI incidents, so yes is the bloody government. And by the way, we have done our time but they are saying we would be the first recalled - FO. If you were ex RN and on some of the FB groups you would see the loathing that is felt towards this lot in power.

My point is that the government comes & goes but if it pisses you off that much that you wouldn't fight for your country because of whoever may be in power then I don't know understand the why.

What you're saying to me is that you would rather be under Russian (or whoever) rule than fight for your country because you don't like the government. Is that correct? At least you wouldn't have to worry about the government then.

What the government is doing to NI vets is just wrong & just plain ridiculous, that much we can agree on but in the U.K. governments come & go so your vote still counts but it wouldn't under a dictatorship which is why I'm struggling to understand your point of view, or anyone who wouldn't fight for the same reason.

Im 65 and though I am ex army, I think I'm too old now lol

Sorry Jim, the cut off is 65, so you would be eligible, crazy isn't it. I'm 68 but wouldn't be surprised to get that email - Vet cards?

I'm ok then - I was 65 in July, so according to Google

British military veterans and reservists in the strategic reserve can be called up for service up to the age of 55, with plans to raise this upper limit to 65.
Current Call-Up and Reserve AgesStrategic Reserve / Recall Limit: Former service personnel are currently liable for recall up to age 55. Under proposed rules from the UK Government, this upper age limit is increasing to 65.
Army Reserve (Volunteers): You can join the regular Army Reserve as a soldier up to your 43rd birthday, and as an officer if you apply by age 48 and nine months.
Active Regular Service: Standard enlistment for the regular British Army starts at age 18 (applications open at 17 years and 6 months).

Im 65 and though I am ex army, I think I'm too old now lol

Sorry Jim, the cut off is 65, so you would be eligible, crazy isn't it. I'm 68 but wouldn't be surprised to get that email - Vet cards?

I'm ok then - I was 65 in July, so according to Google

British military veterans and reservists in the strategic reserve can be called up for service up to the age of 55, with plans to raise this upper limit to 65.
Current Call-Up and Reserve AgesStrategic Reserve / Recall Limit: Former service personnel are currently liable for recall up to age 55. Under proposed rules from the UK Government, this upper age limit is increasing to 65.
Army Reserve (Volunteers): You can join the regular Army Reserve as a soldier up to your 43rd birthday, and as an officer if you apply by age 48 and nine months.
Active Regular Service: Standard enlistment for the regular British Army starts at age 18 (applications open at 17 years and 6 months).

I will look out for an old Butchers Van - I can be Corporal Jones then.

King and country.?.
Lizzy paid twelve million taxpayer money to silence Andrew’s the teddy bear pedo loving sweat free nonce sex abuse victim NO
Sausage fingers Charlie boy definitely NO
Britain is broken with all these illegal immigration free loading migrants
A man standing up for his country slashing a empty dinghy is remanded in to reportable over crowded prisons by the establishment
I hate this country atm with its 2 tier policing policy
So to respectfully answer original op question from me it’s
NO NO NO

So let me get this straight. This government wants us, the British public to fight for our country, the country that they have destroyed.

They want the people that have already stood up for Britain and its civilians, who the government has attacked and called racist, bigots and far right, to now fight for them, the government that has prioritized migrants over its own people, the government that has a two-tier judicial system that favours foreigners over British nationals.

I won’t be offering myself or my kids up for cannon fodder for any conflict when this useless government treats us as second class citizens while they prioritise illegal immigrants many of whom are murderers and rapists.

They can fight their own manmade war and put their own children and grandchildren on the frontline cos my family and I will not fight for a government that has failed in every respect to protect this country and every man, woman and child in it.

Oh, and now they want us to fight under a flag that this government tore down from lampposts calling it racist. You couldn’t make this shit up……

Mate all I can say from this post is SPOT ON

100% I would fight for this country and the vast majority of good people that still live in it

It’s too easy to look at all the bad stuff, a lot of which is over egged

This country might not be perfect but it’s ours and what is the alternative? Roll over and die anyway?

The defeatist attitude of some shocks me

People think this county is so bad whilst all sitting there on there I Phones, spending copious amounts on alcohol, holidays and god knows what else else

I don’t want do downplay the people in this country who are genuinely struggling but some people also need to live in reality and understand that not being able to have a takeaway every week is not living in poverty

Go out in the UK tonight and see how full the pubs, bars and restaurants are, rammed will be the answer

100% I would fight for this country and the vast majority of good people that still live in it

It’s too easy to look at all the bad stuff, a lot of which is over egged

This country might not be perfect but it’s ours and what is the alternative? Roll over and die anyway?

The defeatist attitude of some shocks me

People think this county is so bad whilst all sitting there on there I Phones, spending copious amounts on alcohol, holidays and god knows what else else

I don’t want do downplay the people in this country who are genuinely struggling but some people also need to live in reality and understand that not being able to have a takeaway every week is not living in poverty

Go out in the UK tonight and see how full the pubs, bars and restaurants are, rammed will be the answer

Too much common sense in this post for some to see on here.

If I was younger I would fight - but I'm 65 so will have to settle for the home guard lol

100% yes. Not for the government or its politicians but for my kids, my family and my country, absolutely. Plus my bamp (a genuine war hero) would turn in his grave if I didn't.

100% I would fight for this country and the vast majority of good people that still live in it

It’s too easy to look at all the bad stuff, a lot of which is over egged

This country might not be perfect but it’s ours and what is the alternative? Roll over and die anyway?

The defeatist attitude of some shocks me

People think this county is so bad whilst all sitting there on there I Phones, spending copious amounts on alcohol, holidays and god knows what else else

I don’t want do downplay the people in this country who are genuinely struggling but some people also need to live in reality and understand that not being able to have a takeaway every week is not living in poverty

Go out in the UK tonight and see how full the pubs, bars and restaurants are, rammed will be the answer

Pubs are closing down at an alarming rate, so if that's your measure we're fucked

100% I would fight for this country and the vast majority of good people that still live in it

It’s too easy to look at all the bad stuff, a lot of which is over egged

This country might not be perfect but it’s ours and what is the alternative? Roll over and die anyway?

The defeatist attitude of some shocks me

People think this county is so bad whilst all sitting there on there I Phones, spending copious amounts on alcohol, holidays and god knows what else else

I don’t want do downplay the people in this country who are genuinely struggling but some people also need to live in reality and understand that not being able to have a takeaway every week is not living in poverty

Go out in the UK tonight and see how full the pubs, bars and restaurants are, rammed will be the answer

Pubs are closing down at an alarming rate, so if that's your measure we're fucked

Pop into Cardiff tonight, I think you will find everywhere is indeed rammed. I work nights in Cardiff and believe me there's thousands in town on any given Thurs, Fri and Sat nights

100% I would fight for this country and the vast majority of good people that still live in it

It’s too easy to look at all the bad stuff, a lot of which is over egged

This country might not be perfect but it’s ours and what is the alternative? Roll over and die anyway?

The defeatist attitude of some shocks me

People think this county is so bad whilst all sitting there on there I Phones, spending copious amounts on alcohol, holidays and god knows what else else

I don’t want do downplay the people in this country who are genuinely struggling but some people also need to live in reality and understand that not being able to have a takeaway every week is not living in poverty

Go out in the UK tonight and see how full the pubs, bars and restaurants are, rammed will be the answer

Pubs are closing down at an alarming rate, so if that's your measure we're fucked

Pop into Cardiff tonight, I think you will find everywhere is indeed rammed. I work nights in Cardiff and believe me there's thousands in town on any given Thurs, Fri and Sat nights

Why are pubs closing down at an alarming rate?

100% I would fight for this country and the vast majority of good people that still live in it

It’s too easy to look at all the bad stuff, a lot of which is over egged

This country might not be perfect but it’s ours and what is the alternative? Roll over and die anyway?

The defeatist attitude of some shocks me

People think this county is so bad whilst all sitting there on there I Phones, spending copious amounts on alcohol, holidays and god knows what else else

I don’t want do downplay the people in this country who are genuinely struggling but some people also need to live in reality and understand that not being able to have a takeaway every week is not living in poverty

Go out in the UK tonight and see how full the pubs, bars and restaurants are, rammed will be the answer

Pubs are closing down at an alarming rate, so if that's your measure we're fucked

Pop into Cardiff tonight, I think you will find everywhere is indeed rammed. I work nights in Cardiff and believe me there's thousands in town on any given Thurs, Fri and Sat nights

Why are pubs closing down at an alarming rate?

Probably because they are smelly and are the type of pubs that are not missed and have now been replaced by places the new generations want to go

f**k yes, but not against Putin, but against the enemy within the one that continues to grow with its reinforcements crossing the channel daily I would take to the streets to defend my way of life.

Russia could not fight NATO, they need men from Belarus and n Korea to subdue Ukraine. Their country is bankrupt and will see a civil war within 5 years. That's why Putin is trying to deflect attention away from the mess they are in.

That’s a very good point!

On a personal level, I would ‘fight’ for my country, if the chips were down, but I understand the thoughts of those who refer to our recent Governments ‘selling us down the river’ in order to self-satisfy personal agendas

There is a mantra that states “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”, and that’s where I stand. Doing ‘nothing’ isn’t an option!

100% I would fight for this country and the vast majority of good people that still live in it

It’s too easy to look at all the bad stuff, a lot of which is over egged

This country might not be perfect but it’s ours and what is the alternative? Roll over and die anyway?

The defeatist attitude of some shocks me

People think this county is so bad whilst all sitting there on there I Phones, spending copious amounts on alcohol, holidays and god knows what else else

I don’t want do downplay the people in this country who are genuinely struggling but some people also need to live in reality and understand that not being able to have a takeaway every week is not living in poverty

Go out in the UK tonight and see how full the pubs, bars and restaurants are, rammed will be the answer

Pubs are closing down at an alarming rate, so if that's your measure we're fucked

Pop into Cardiff tonight, I think you will find everywhere is indeed rammed. I work nights in Cardiff and believe me there's thousands in town on any given Thurs, Fri and Sat nights

Why are pubs closing down at an alarming rate?

Probably because they are smelly and are the type of pubs that are not missed and have now been replaced by places the new generations want to go

Shut pubs aren't being replaced, the sector is shrinking

f**k yes, but not against Putin, but against the enemy within the one that continues to grow with its reinforcements crossing the channel daily I would take to the streets to defend my way of life.

Absolutely.....

King and country.?.
Lizzy paid twelve million taxpayer money to silence Andrew’s the teddy bear pedo loving sweat free nonce sex abuse victim NO
Sausage fingers Charlie boy definitely NO
Britain is broken with all these illegal immigration free loading migrants
A man standing up for his country slashing a empty dinghy is remanded in to reportable over crowded prisons by the establishment
I hate this country atm with its 2 tier policing policy
So to respectfully answer original op question from me it’s
NO NO NO

Yes it's strange how this government is freeing rapists early because there's no room in the prisons but find room for someone who slashed a dingy in the channel but no nows where that dingy is, who it belongs to and whether the alleged incident happened in English or french waters......

And they can rush through a case of a protestor who through a plastic bottle at a copper and told him to f**I off and then send him down for 2 years in the same week an illegal was sentenced to one year in prison for sexually assaulting a minor outside a church.

And some will still say there's no 2 tier justice system in this broken country ..

Would anyone here object to us being won over by Russia? What is it you object about Russian life

King and country.?.
Lizzy paid twelve million taxpayer money to silence Andrew’s the teddy bear pedo loving sweat free nonce sex abuse victim NO
Sausage fingers Charlie boy definitely NO
Britain is broken with all these illegal immigration free loading migrants
A man standing up for his country slashing a empty dinghy is remanded in to reportable over crowded prisons by the establishment
I hate this country atm with its 2 tier policing policy
So to respectfully answer original op question from me it’s
NO NO NO

Totally agree

Our fight is not with russian civilians, our fight is with the establishment and it's the same all accross Europe.

Send the natives to war and let the new lot in.........

Russia is not the enemy!

Russia doesn’t even want war with Europe. It’s Europe that wants war with Russia. It’s all a fear mongering con.

Well that’s one take.

As a straight White British man, i won't be fighting my Russian brothers. How about you ask the dinghy "Brits" to fight? We're constantly told they're as British as us

We don’t want you.

Would anyone here object to us being won over by Russia? What is it you object about Russian life

You enjoy the internet? You enjoy some freedoms?

You won’t get them to the same extent under Russia.

Russia doesn’t even want war with Europe. It’s Europe that wants war with Russia. It’s all a fear mongering con.

Well that’s one take.

You need to pull your head out of the sand mate and stop believing the BS that the government controlled media dishes out.

Russia doesn't want a war with Europe, it can't beat one nation let alone a continent. As far as Russia is concerned their fight against Ukraine is a civil war.

The establishment is scared of the amount of patriot organisations emerging that they call far right and the best way to get rid of them is send them to war.

Russia doesn’t even want war with Europe. It’s Europe that wants war with Russia. It’s all a fear mongering con.

Well that’s one take.

You need to pull your head out of the sand mate and stop believing the BS that the government controlled media dishes out.

Russia doesn't want a war with Europe, it can't beat one nation let alone a continent. As far as Russia is concerned their fight against Ukraine is a civil war.

The establishment is scared of the amount of patriot organisations emerging that they call far right and the best way to get rid of them is send them to war.

Patriot organisations whose members regularly say they won’t fight for this country.

Head out of the sand? You need to stay off social media and the clowns on there feeding disinformation.

Would anyone here object to us being won over by Russia? What is it you object about Russian life

You enjoy the internet? You enjoy some freedoms?

You won’t get them to the same extent under Russia.

Spoken like a man who gets all his Russia information from the main stream news in the West.
Just to clarify, Russia has the internet cheap power supplies, it has safe streets, it doesn't have degenerates trying to destroy the nuclear family. Russia doesn't force women to share toilets with perverted trannies. Russia doesn't have boat fulls of economic migrants arriving day in day out, Russia doesn't have grooming gangs from Pakistan or anywhere else. The list can go on

Russia doesn’t even want war with Europe. It’s Europe that wants war with Russia. It’s all a fear mongering con.

Well that’s one take.

You need to pull your head out of the sand mate and stop believing the BS that the government controlled media dishes out.

Russia doesn't want a war with Europe, it can't beat one nation let alone a continent. As far as Russia is concerned their fight against Ukraine is a civil war.

The establishment is scared of the amount of patriot organisations emerging that they call far right and the best way to get rid of them is send them to war.

Russia were forced into action, it was "eat or be eaten" Nato had expanded to their border, in doing so,threatened Russia sovreignty

Russia doesn’t even want war with Europe. It’s Europe that wants war with Russia. It’s all a fear mongering con.

Well that’s one take.

You need to pull your head out of the sand mate and stop believing the BS that the government controlled media dishes out.

Russia doesn't want a war with Europe, it can't beat one nation let alone a continent. As far as Russia is concerned their fight against Ukraine is a civil war.

The establishment is scared of the amount of patriot organisations emerging that they call far right and the best way to get rid of them is send them to war.

Patriot organisations whose members regularly say they won’t fight for this country.

Head out of the sand? You need to stay off social media and the clowns on there feeding disinformation.

They won't fight for the establishment and the government knows this so they will throw them in prison, problem solved.........so they think.

Wake up mate, you are being controlled.

Would anyone here object to us being won over by Russia? What is it you object about Russian life

You enjoy the internet? You enjoy some freedoms?

You won’t get them to the same extent under Russia.

Spoken like a man who gets all his Russia information from the main stream news in the West.
Just to clarify, Russia has the internet cheap power supplies, it has safe streets, it doesn't have degenerates trying to destroy the nuclear family. Russia doesn't force women to share toilets with perverted trannies. Russia doesn't have boat fulls of economic migrants arriving day in day out, Russia doesn't have grooming gangs from Pakistan or anywhere else. The list can go on

Would anyone here object to us being won over by Russia? What is it you object about Russian life

You enjoy the internet? You enjoy some freedoms?

You won’t get them to the same extent under Russia.

Spoken like a man who gets all his Russia information from the main stream news in the West.
Just to clarify, Russia has the internet cheap power supplies, it has safe streets, it doesn't have degenerates trying to destroy the nuclear family. Russia doesn't force women to share toilets with perverted trannies. Russia doesn't have boat fulls of economic migrants arriving day in day out, Russia doesn't have grooming gangs from Pakistan or anywhere else. The list can go on

Well you aren’t going to hear anything differently from the state media or from inside Russia where saying anything against the state gets you the gulag.

If it’s so good why don’t you eff off and live their ‘patriot?’