From now to the end of This Transfer Window :

Disappointing budget to work with at the higher 'Championship' level.
A lot riding on the further progression of our young players along with any loan players we recruit.
If we are top half, no one can complain.
However, if we are lower half, expect the pressure back on the owners and possibly the manager.

Agreed for me I can't see any blame being pointed at BBM at all if he's not given the tools to push on. Although he will have to adapt his systems and instructions game per game to get results that might be his downfall some may think. It's always good to see the younger ones proving themselves I find but as said many times on here it's not division 1 we are playing in now and we do have a lot of the same squad that went down from the championship. I'm sure BBM will get a better tune out of them than past managers either way

It depends what we mean by backed. If it means he's been able to add quality then he has been. If it means we've been given millions to spend, then he hasn't been.

But anyway, let's hope for three points today. We can all agree on that

4 days left to see the quality we've all been waiting for. Slow and steady wins the race I supposey...although I wonder how many we'll have to give back (along with Scanlon) next May.

Roll on 11.01pm on Tuesday, exciting times!

Ryan
It works this way ,late window gets the best apprently from the prem .

Like the "Rosey" few have always said plenty of time left yet and you'll see BBM has been backed by the end of the window.

When in truth most knew what was coming before pre season even started because it was obvious although we still go eitherway unlike some they go only for what's on the pitch and what we have spent the glory few I call them. I mean we had two mods on here actually believing we bid 7m for one player who was coming. Hilarious stuff

That’s the second ‘pop’ you’ve had at myself and the other guy of late, Ian. I did note the comment you (embarrassing to yourself) made the other day. I put it down to your own frustrations that people had a different view, but it seems you have an agenda, and that hugely disappoints me!

For the record, I had a usually reliable source for the information I put out, and I put a caveat on each post with some caution that whilst I believed it would happen, might not. Equally, I put out (more than one) message stating that I got that one wrong, that I was very disappointed with my source, and that I would be very careful in the future

Are other so contrite? And what would you have me do?

Not put information received out? Only stick to the confirmed facts? Only put out stuff, if it’s approved by the ‘Negativity Committee’ that seems to have gathered itself of late?

There would certainly be little put on here to read and/or debate!

You’ll have your thoughts/beliefs, and I’ll have mine. That’s how it should be; preferably without resorting to the embarrassing diatribe to which you have (on these two specific occasions) resorted to!

I never mentioned your name. only "Rosey bunch" but if the shoe fits for pops then you pair would be right up there for virtual pops for giving them out I guess

So what was this bit (below), then?

I don’t actually mind. I generally respect you, I accept the ‘pops’ work both ways and I am more than capable of holding my own. However, I did find the other comment (from a day or so) unnecessary and laughed it off as the reaction of someone (you) seething at others (in this case us) who try to push positivity. I wasn’t offended; just disappointed

In the absence of (many) facts and with the abundance of assumption on this Forum, members will agree and disagree; but it should never be so base

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Buy a shit used Fiesta or lease a Porsche Cayman?

Sometimes leasing is the sensible option.

Well done, BBM and Tan; sense at last the club is right on the up

Disappointing budget to work with at the higher 'Championship' level.
A lot riding on the further progression of our young players along with any loan players we recruit.
If we are top half, no one can complain.
However, if we are lower half, expect the pressure back on the owners and possibly the manager.

Agreed for me I can't see any blame being pointed at BBM at all if he's not given the tools to push on. Although he will have to adapt his systems and instructions game per game to get results that might be his downfall some may think. It's always good to see the younger ones proving themselves I find but as said many times on here it's not division 1 we are playing in now and we do have a lot of the same squad that went down from the championship. I'm sure BBM will get a better tune out of them than past managers either way

On this post, we can agree!

BBM has some more than decent young players, and he should get a better tune out of them than the previous coaches

5 million for an unproven div one striker thank god we have learned our lesson
E oin Doyle and madine spring to mind.

Clapped out fiesta and astra, Ramsey was an old Ferrari with a broken engine and gearbox packed with sand and grease

5 million for an unproven div one striker thank god we have learned our lesson
E oin Doyle and madine spring to mind.

Clapped out fiesta and astra, Ramsey was an old Ferrari with a broken engine and gearbox packed with sand and grease

He (Ramsey) gave it a go back at his boyhood club, he did well when fit but was at the wrong end of an illustrious career for club(s) and country. Sad that you find his time here amusing; particularly when so many wanted him to stay and steer us forward as manager/coach

How short some memories are!

5 million for an unproven div one striker thank god we have learned our lesson
E oin Doyle and madine spring to mind.

Buy those donkeys or loan Trott and Kellyman?

Hopefully we will do as well this season with loans, in addition to Scanlon, who is already looking good and solid competition for Bagan and possibly Willock.

It depends what we mean by backed. If it means he's been able to add quality then he has been. If it means we've been given millions to spend, then he hasn't been.

But anyway, let's hope for three points today. We can all agree on that

The main plus could be, with a smaller squad, the growth in our young players: Colwills, Bagan, Ashford, and all the rest.

We will have a few good-quality loans to add; I'm pretty confident.

5 million for an unproven div one striker thank god we have learned our lesson
E oin Doyle and madine spring to mind.

Clapped out fiesta and astra, Ramsey was an old Ferrari with a broken engine and gearbox packed with sand and grease

He (Ramsey) gave it a go back at his boyhood club, he did well when fit but was at the wrong end of an illustrious career for club(s) and country. Sad that you find his time here amusing; particularly when so many wanted him to stay and steer us forward as manager/coach

How short some memories are!

I like Ramsey, and he was quality once upon a time. For us, he was a massively expensive mistake; that's the point of the post, explaining that the loan market can protect us from these types of expensive mistakes and can also be seen as a positive Wakey wakey

5 million for an unproven div one striker thank god we have learned our lesson
E oin Doyle and madine spring to mind.

Clapped out fiesta and astra, Ramsey was an old Ferrari with a broken engine and gearbox packed with sand and grease

He (Ramsey) gave it a go back at his boyhood club, he did well when fit but was at the wrong end of an illustrious career for club(s) and country. Sad that you find his time here amusing; particularly when so many wanted him to stay and steer us forward as manager/coach

How short some memories are!

I like Ramsey, and he was quality once upon a time. For us, he was a massively expensive mistake; that's the point of the post, explaining that the loan market can protect us from these types of expensive mistakes and can also be seen as a positive Wakey wakey

Awake to someone backtracking

Only a mistake in hindsight, but you are right, it was expensive. Not the first and likely not the last as risks are sometimes taken to get the best for our club; and a returning Ramsey was a big fillip at the time of signing, wasn’t he?

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It depends what we mean by backed. If it means he's been able to add quality then he has been. If it means we've been given millions to spend, then he hasn't been.

But anyway, let's hope for three points today. We can all agree on that

I agree and I think we have been backed.

We’ve brought in 4 quality players and hopefully 2 or 3 more.

Some posters think we need to spend millions and millions but we’ve done that before. It hasn’t worked and Tan has burnt his fingers going along that route.

For me, 2 more players and a mid table finishes will be fine. Of course I’ll hope for more!

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There's not many clubs not spending in the Championship but we as usual have "no money".
We were after "quality" apparently but as usual we didn't sign any acknowledged "quality".
I hope with a small pretty young squad we can stay fit and be competitive.
This is what I was expecting all along, we need fresh ownership who have some financial clout who can take us forward, we can't do it all the time with "no money"

Has this been confirmed we will not be spending in the transfer window
Can we see a quote from the club source confirming this……???????

There's not many clubs not spending in the Championship but we as usual have "no money".
We were after "quality" apparently but as usual we didn't sign any acknowledged "quality".
I hope with a small pretty young squad we can stay fit and be competitive.
This is what I was expecting all along, we need fresh ownership who have some financial clout who can take us forward, we can't do it all the time with "no money"

‘We didn’t sign any acknowledged quality’?

What a strange post!

I’d say Trott, Scanlon and Moylan are quality.

The new guy Bielik certainly looks quality going on today’s performance.

There's not many clubs not spending in the Championship but we as usual have "no money".
We were after "quality" apparently but as usual we didn't sign any acknowledged "quality".
I hope with a small pretty young squad we can stay fit and be competitive.
This is what I was expecting all along, we need fresh ownership who have some financial clout who can take us forward, we can't do it all the time with "no money"

‘We didn’t sign any acknowledged quality’?

What a strange post!

I’d say Trott, Scanlon and Moylan are quality.

The new guy Bielik certainly looks quality going on today’s performance.

In the absence of other (confirmed) information, we can only assume that BBM chose his players and is happy with them

I know I would be, after seeing them so far this season, including Bielnik today

There's not many clubs not spending in the Championship but we as usual have "no money".
We were after "quality" apparently but as usual we didn't sign any acknowledged "quality".
I hope with a small pretty young squad we can stay fit and be competitive.
This is what I was expecting all along, we need fresh ownership who have some financial clout who can take us forward, we can't do it all the time with "no money"

‘We didn’t sign any acknowledged quality’?

What a strange post!

I’d say Trott, Scanlon and Moylan are quality.

The new guy Bielik certainly looks quality going on today’s performance.

Agree with all of that. It's also not true to say we haven't spent money.

We've spent money on Moylan, Trott and Bielik. People will argue about fees, but we have spent money.

Most loans aren't free these days either.

There's not many clubs not spending in the Championship but we as usual have "no money".
We were after "quality" apparently but as usual we didn't sign any acknowledged "quality".
I hope with a small pretty young squad we can stay fit and be competitive.
This is what I was expecting all along, we need fresh ownership who have some financial clout who can take us forward, we can't do it all the time with "no money"

‘We didn’t sign any acknowledged quality’?

What a strange post!

I’d say Trott, Scanlon and Moylan are quality.

The new guy Bielik certainly looks quality going on today’s performance.

Agree with all of that. It's also not true to say we haven't spent money.

We've spent money on Moylan, Trott and Bielik. People will argue about fees, but we have spent money.

Most loans aren't free these days either.

Some posters think we need to spend 5mill plus to get quality but it’s not always the case.

I prefer this way of doing business.

There's not many clubs not spending in the Championship but we as usual have "no money".
We were after "quality" apparently but as usual we didn't sign any acknowledged "quality".
I hope with a small pretty young squad we can stay fit and be competitive.
This is what I was expecting all along, we need fresh ownership who have some financial clout who can take us forward, we can't do it all the time with "no money"

‘We didn’t sign any acknowledged quality’?

What a strange post!

I’d say Trott, Scanlon and Moylan are quality.

The new guy Bielik certainly looks quality going on today’s performance.

Agree with all of that. It's also not true to say we haven't spent money.

We've spent money on Moylan, Trott and Bielik. People will argue about fees, but we have spent money.

Most loans aren't free these days either.

Exactly this. We are not on a 'shoe-string' budget as some always claim. When we went down our budget was top 10. We can all see that there is anti-Tan agenda from some on this board which leads them to some very blinkered and unfair views. I don't like Tan and would prefer a new owner but it's nonsense to suggest he is not giving BBM a fair wage structure or money to spend at Championship level.

I don't think you can say we've been backed. We've signed less players than any other team in the entire league (bar QPR I think who have also signed 4). We have also spent less money on transfer fees than most other teams. Yes we've spent a little bit but it's not enough. The ambition by the club just isn't there.

The crazy thing is, if ever there was a time and a manager to really get behind financially, it's now while we still have BBM.

Look at the performance today, we were brilliant at times, we made Sheff Utd long bang average. Look at Wilders comments about us too. But the squad depth just isn't there. 3 to 4 more real quality signings would be massive...just can't see how the hierarchy are not seeing this...unless I'm 3 days premature in saying this of course.

I don't think you can say we've been backed. We've signed less players than any other team in the entire league (bar QPR I think who have also signed 4). We have also spent less money on transfer fees than most other teams. Yes we've spent a little bit but it's not enough. The ambition by the club just isn't there.

The crazy thing is, if ever there was a time and a manager to really get behind financially, it's now while we still have BBM.

Look at the performance today, we were brilliant at times, we made Sheff Utd long bang average. Look at Wilders comments about us too. But the squad depth just isn't there. 3 to 4 more real quality signings would be massive...just can't see how the hierarchy are not seeing this...unless I'm 3 days premature in saying this of course.

BBM knows what he wants & I don't think the money is the issue some make it out to be as we're favourites to go down as we've just come back up & players need convincing to join the team given that & where we are located.

Hopefully our results so far & the way we've played goes to bring any players on the fence off it.

There isn't a person on this board that wouldn't be happy to see the back of Tan but all of this blaming him for everything, including not signing expensive enough players for some, gets very boring very fast at this time of year.

There you go, that should stop all this nonsense of Annis agreeing with me.

5 million for an unproven div one striker thank god we have learned our lesson
E oin Doyle and madine spring to mind.

Clapped out fiesta and astra, Ramsey was an old Ferrari with a broken engine and gearbox packed with sand and grease

He (Ramsey) gave it a go back at his boyhood club, he did well when fit but was at the wrong end of an illustrious career for club(s) and country. Sad that you find his time here amusing; particularly when so many wanted him to stay and steer us forward as manager/coach

How short some memories are!

I like Ramsey, and he was quality once upon a time. For us, he was a massively expensive mistake; that's the point of the post, explaining that the loan market can protect us from these types of expensive mistakes and can also be seen as a positive Wakey wakey

Awake to someone backtracking

Only a mistake in hindsight, but you are right, it was expensive. Not the first and likely not the last as risks are sometimes taken to get the best for our club; and a returning Ramsey was a big fillip at the time of signing, wasn’t he?

So I was right; he was a Ferrari, but broken and cost us a fortune

Good point; then a loan can be as good as or better than a risky purchase

There's a couple of players I'd move on. Robinson & Turnball come to mind

BBM as recently as Saturday said he wanted to strengthen the squad further and now we are told NO :



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