OFFICIAL - Prime Minister Cries as he Resigns :

So after two year of open borders, two-tier policing, spending billions on housing and clothing illegal immigrants who have invaded our country and betraying the very people of Britain who voted for him, two-tier Keir is finally going.

That should be excellent news....... however he will be replaced by someone who is part of the huge grooming gang cover up. White working class girls in Makerfield were raped and trafficked by asian monsters but when asked about this he called it "propaganda" and said campaigners for justice were creating "hate".

He was a minister of the home office when reports of abuse and rape by grooming gangs poured in and was also there when the home office shut down "Operation Augusta".

Even when mayor of Manchester he resisted a proper national enquiry for many years. Eventually he commissioned a local review, but the two men leading it resigned after being blocked from accessing crucial information........Hmmmmm!

I'd get yourself off X (Twitter). Go and speak to some real people and enjoy the sunshine. Stop being brainwashed by Musk bots online.

I'm not on X mate, never have been and never will be.

Everything I posted is correct. People need to remove their heads from the sand and open their eyes to what's been going on, and unfortunately still is.

So after two year of open borders, two-tier policing, spending billions on housing and clothing illegal immigrants who have invaded our country and betraying the very people of Britain who voted for him, two-tier Keir is finally going.

That should be excellent news....... however he will be replaced by someone who is part of the huge grooming gang cover up. White working class girls in Makerfield were raped and trafficked by asian monsters but when asked about this he called it "propaganda" and said campaigners for justice were creating "hate".

He was a minister of the home office when reports of abuse and rape by grooming gangs poured in and was also there when the home office shut down "Operation Augusta".

Even when mayor of Manchester he resisted a proper national enquiry for many years. Eventually he commissioned a local review, but the two men leading it resigned after being blocked from accessing crucial information........Hmmmmm!

I'd get yourself off X (Twitter). Go and speak to some real people and enjoy the sunshine. Stop being brainwashed by Musk bots online.

I'm not on X mate, never have been and never will be.

Everything I posted is correct. People need to remove their heads from the sand and open their eyes to what's been going on, and unfortunately still is.

Firstly, my thoughts go out to anyone who has suffered any form of abuse - and I believe everyone on here will have the same sentiments.

I do think that you are being slightly selective in what you're saying about this, you may well argue that I am too. But I would point out that he has won three mayoral elections and now a strongly contested by-election, so that suggests local residents do not blame him for it.



As I have said, I think the best thing for Andy to do is go to the country within 12 months. That's what I said Sunak should have done so I'm not going to be a hypocrite about it. I'm not saying it will happen but it's what I think should happen.

So after two year of open borders, two-tier policing, spending billions on housing and clothing illegal immigrants who have invaded our country and betraying the very people of Britain who voted for him, two-tier Keir is finally going.

That should be excellent news....... however he will be replaced by someone who is part of the huge grooming gang cover up. White working class girls in Makerfield were raped and trafficked by asian monsters but when asked about this he called it "propaganda" and said campaigners for justice were creating "hate".

He was a minister of the home office when reports of abuse and rape by grooming gangs poured in and was also there when the home office shut down "Operation Augusta".

Even when mayor of Manchester he resisted a proper national enquiry for many years. Eventually he commissioned a local review, but the two men leading it resigned after being blocked from accessing crucial information........Hmmmmm!

I'd get yourself off X (Twitter). Go and speak to some real people and enjoy the sunshine. Stop being brainwashed by Musk bots online.

I'm not on X mate, never have been and never will be.

Everything I posted is correct. People need to remove their heads from the sand and open their eyes to what's been going on, and unfortunately still is.

Firstly, my thoughts go out to anyone who has suffered any form of abuse - and I believe everyone on here will have the same sentiments.

I do think that you are being slightly selective in what you're saying about this, you may well argue that I am too. But I would point out that he has won three mayoral elections and now a strongly contested by-election, so that suggests local residents do not blame him for it.



As I have said, I think the best thing for Andy to do is go to the country within 12 months. That's what I said Sunak should have done so I'm not going to be a hypocrite about it. I'm not saying it will happen but it's what I think should happen.

Burnham is definitely not the only person involved in the cover up but he and starmer are the subjects of this thread, hence my "selective" post.

Yes he has won 3 mayoral elections and the by-election last week but most voters, especially back when he was initially voted in as mayor had no idea about these grooming gangs and many still don't want to believe it has been going on under their very noses. The general voter still has no idea of the huge cover up that's been going on for decades but hopefully all will come out soon and the ministers, councillors, mayors, police and anyone else involved in covering it up are brought to justice and punished accordingly.

So after two year of open borders, two-tier policing, spending billions on housing and clothing illegal immigrants who have invaded our country and betraying the very people of Britain who voted for him, two-tier Keir is finally going.

That should be excellent news....... however he will be replaced by someone who is part of the huge grooming gang cover up. White working class girls in Makerfield were raped and trafficked by asian monsters but when asked about this he called it "propaganda" and said campaigners for justice were creating "hate".

He was a minister of the home office when reports of abuse and rape by grooming gangs poured in and was also there when the home office shut down "Operation Augusta".

Even when mayor of Manchester he resisted a proper national enquiry for many years. Eventually he commissioned a local review, but the two men leading it resigned after being blocked from accessing crucial information........Hmmmmm!

I'd get yourself off X (Twitter). Go and speak to some real people and enjoy the sunshine. Stop being brainwashed by Musk bots online.

I'm not on X mate, never have been and never will be.

Everything I posted is correct. People need to remove their heads from the sand and open their eyes to what's been going on, and unfortunately still is.

Firstly, my thoughts go out to anyone who has suffered any form of abuse - and I believe everyone on here will have the same sentiments.

I do think that you are being slightly selective in what you're saying about this, you may well argue that I am too. But I would point out that he has won three mayoral elections and now a strongly contested by-election, so that suggests local residents do not blame him for it.



As I have said, I think the best thing for Andy to do is go to the country within 12 months. That's what I said Sunak should have done so I'm not going to be a hypocrite about it. I'm not saying it will happen but it's what I think should happen.

Burnham is definitely not the only person involved in the cover up but he and starmer are the subjects of this thread, hence my "selective" post.

Yes he has won 3 mayoral elections and the by-election last week but most voters, especially back when he was initially voted in as mayor had no idea about these grooming gangs and many still don't want to believe it has been going on under their very noses. The general voter still has no idea of the huge cover up that's been going on for decades but hopefully all will come out soon and the ministers, councillors, mayors, police and anyone else involved in covering it up are brought to justice and punished accordingly.

Well said mike, I have a retired policeman friend from derby who tells me all about police and councillors who where all involved hence the big big cover up of the grooming gangs up north which covers a big area.

3 mayoral election wins in Manchester, I don't think this is as impressive as you think. Who else was going to win but the labour candidate

So after two year of open borders, two-tier policing, spending billions on housing and clothing illegal immigrants who have invaded our country and betraying the very people of Britain who voted for him, two-tier Keir is finally going.

That should be excellent news....... however he will be replaced by someone who is part of the huge grooming gang cover up. White working class girls in Makerfield were raped and trafficked by asian monsters but when asked about this he called it "propaganda" and said campaigners for justice were creating "hate".

He was a minister of the home office when reports of abuse and rape by grooming gangs poured in and was also there when the home office shut down "Operation Augusta".

Even when mayor of Manchester he resisted a proper national enquiry for many years. Eventually he commissioned a local review, but the two men leading it resigned after being blocked from accessing crucial information........Hmmmmm!

I'd get yourself off X (Twitter). Go and speak to some real people and enjoy the sunshine. Stop being brainwashed by Musk bots online.

I'm not on X mate, never have been and never will be.

Everything I posted is correct. People need to remove their heads from the sand and open their eyes to what's been going on, and unfortunately still is.

Firstly, my thoughts go out to anyone who has suffered any form of abuse - and I believe everyone on here will have the same sentiments.

I do think that you are being slightly selective in what you're saying about this, you may well argue that I am too. But I would point out that he has won three mayoral elections and now a strongly contested by-election, so that suggests local residents do not blame him for it.



As I have said, I think the best thing for Andy to do is go to the country within 12 months. That's what I said Sunak should have done so I'm not going to be a hypocrite about it. I'm not saying it will happen but it's what I think should happen.

Burnham is definitely not the only person involved in the cover up but he and starmer are the subjects of this thread, hence my "selective" post.

Yes he has won 3 mayoral elections and the by-election last week but most voters, especially back when he was initially voted in as mayor had no idea about these grooming gangs and many still don't want to believe it has been going on under their very noses. The general voter still has no idea of the huge cover up that's been going on for decades but hopefully all will come out soon and the ministers, councillors, mayors, police and anyone else involved in covering it up are brought to justice and punished accordingly.

Well said mike, I have a retired policeman friend from derby who tells me all about police and councillors who where all involved hence the big big cover up of the grooming gangs up north which covers a big area.

It's a disgrace what's happened. It may take someone like your mate to have the courage to publicly speak out before many sit up and take notice of this horrific crime.

I reactivated x a few weeks back as i wanted to follow a few of the city players and club. I rarely drift over to the "for you section," but when I have its insane.

My most confused was the Patriots march get caught, filmed, doing nazi salutes, then on the same day, the Antifa mob doing the same !!!!! There is a thing called the horseshoe effect, where the far-left and far-right—rather than being at opposite ends of a linear spectrum—bend closer together like the tips of a horseshoe. Consequently, the extremes share more similarities with each other than with the political center.

Anyway, back to my question based upon "x" views, what Burnham are we getting

1- Left-wing Corbynista
2- WEF lackie taking over from Starmer the disappointing WEF stooge, different face same direction

So after two year of open borders, two-tier policing, spending billions on housing and clothing illegal immigrants who have invaded our country and betraying the very people of Britain who voted for him, two-tier Keir is finally going.

That should be excellent news....... however he will be replaced by someone who is part of the huge grooming gang cover up. White working class girls in Makerfield were raped and trafficked by asian monsters but when asked about this he called it "propaganda" and said campaigners for justice were creating "hate".

He was a minister of the home office when reports of abuse and rape by grooming gangs poured in and was also there when the home office shut down "Operation Augusta".

Even when mayor of Manchester he resisted a proper national enquiry for many years. Eventually he commissioned a local review, but the two men leading it resigned after being blocked from accessing crucial information........Hmmmmm!

I'd get yourself off X (Twitter). Go and speak to some real people and enjoy the sunshine. Stop being brainwashed by Musk bots online.

I'm not on X mate, never have been and never will be.

Everything I posted is correct. People need to remove their heads from the sand and open their eyes to what's been going on, and unfortunately still is.

Firstly, my thoughts go out to anyone who has suffered any form of abuse - and I believe everyone on here will have the same sentiments.

I do think that you are being slightly selective in what you're saying about this, you may well argue that I am too. But I would point out that he has won three mayoral elections and now a strongly contested by-election, so that suggests local residents do not blame him for it.



As I have said, I think the best thing for Andy to do is go to the country within 12 months. That's what I said Sunak should have done so I'm not going to be a hypocrite about it. I'm not saying it will happen but it's what I think should happen.

Burnham is definitely not the only person involved in the cover up but he and starmer are the subjects of this thread, hence my "selective" post.

Yes he has won 3 mayoral elections and the by-election last week but most voters, especially back when he was initially voted in as mayor had no idea about these grooming gangs and many still don't want to believe it has been going on under their very noses. The general voter still has no idea of the huge cover up that's been going on for decades but hopefully all will come out soon and the ministers, councillors, mayors, police and anyone else involved in covering it up are brought to justice and punished accordingly.

Well said mike, I have a retired policeman friend from derby who tells me all about police and councillors who where all involved hence the big big cover up of the grooming gangs up north which covers a big area.

It's a disgrace what's happened. It may take someone like your mate to have the courage to publicly speak out before many sit up and take notice of this horrific crime.

Mike
He retired early from knowing to much.

Unfortunately for our once great country, Kier Starmer was never a Prime Minister, which post covid and the geo politics around us (Ukraine, Iran etc.), was so badly needed. Let's face it, he knows nothing at all about politics, he's just a human rights lawyer and not a very good one at that either.

We needed a PM with a vision and then the conviction to deliver that vision. Unfortunately Starmer had no vision, started making up policy on the hoof, not thought through, and ultimately made 16 U-Turns in less than 2 years. He babbles on about not plunging our country into chaos......but he's been doing exactly that since he came into office.

He will go down as the worst, and most hated PM (that includes Thatcher), that this country has ever seen.

We are now a laughing stock all over the world, no country takes us seriously anymore because Starmer has lost complete control. He cannot control his own party, he cannot control our borders, he cannot control his Ministers and has no financial control of our No1 priority.....defence.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

So a swing to the left then under Burnham.

Unfortunately for our once great country, Kier Starmer was never a Prime Minister, which post covid and the geo politics around us (Ukraine, Iran etc.), was so badly needed. Let's face it, he knows nothing at all about politics, he's just a human rights lawyer and not a very good one at that either.

We needed a PM with a vision and then the conviction to deliver that vision. Unfortunately Starmer had no vision, started making up policy on the hoof, not thought through, and ultimately made 16 U-Turns in less than 2 years. He babbles on about not plunging our country into chaos......but he's been doing exactly that since he came into office.

He will go down as the worst, and most hated PM (that includes Thatcher), that this country has ever seen.

We are now a laughing stock all over the world, no country takes us seriously anymore because Starmer has lost complete control. He cannot control his own party, he cannot control our borders, he cannot control his Ministers and has no financial control of our No1 priority.....defence.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Great post

.... and I'm definitely not going to hold my breath!

He will not doubt offer to bring back Jeremy corby God help us

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And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

So a swing to the left then under Burnham.

I have been a backer of Andy for 16 years. Not a swing to the left, a swing to sense.

He will not doubt offer to bring back Jeremy corby God help us

Andy has already said that he should not be allowed back in the party. Corbyn is an anti-semite.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

So a swing to the left then under Burnham.

I have been a backer of Andy for 16 years. Not a swing to the left, a swing to sense.

So if you're so close to "Our Andy" and have always supported his politics during failed leadership challenges, I guess you have a bit of inside knowledge Ned.

A few questions:

1. What policy would the self anointed "King of the North" implement pretty damn quickly, as that is what is needed, to stop illegal immigration flooding into the South and then dispersed all over our poor country?

2. Starmer, with his stuttering side kick Rachel Thieves, said growth was their No 1 priority which has clearly failed. What would your beloved Andy do to address this issue? Tax us beyond what is now the biggest tax burden the people of our country have ever been subjugated to?

3. Defence, which apparently then became Starmer's No 1 policy following Minister resignations. What spending cuts will our Andy implement to fund this?

Serious questions which I would love a PM to solve. And for the record, you can't blame the Torries anymore, your mob have been here for nearly 2 years and made it 10 times worse.

So after two year of open borders, two-tier policing, spending billions on housing and clothing illegal immigrants who have invaded our country and betraying the very people of Britain who voted for him, two-tier Keir is finally going.

That should be excellent news....... however he will be replaced by someone who is part of the huge grooming gang cover up. White working class girls in Makerfield were raped and trafficked by asian monsters but when asked about this he called it "propaganda" and said campaigners for justice were creating "hate".

He was a minister of the home office when reports of abuse and rape by grooming gangs poured in and was also there when the home office shut down "Operation Augusta".

Even when mayor of Manchester he resisted a proper national enquiry for many years. Eventually he commissioned a local review, but the two men leading it resigned after being blocked from accessing crucial information........Hmmmmm!

I'd get yourself off X (Twitter). Go and speak to some real people and enjoy the sunshine. Stop being brainwashed by Musk bots online.

I'm not on X mate, never have been and never will be.

Everything I posted is correct. People need to remove their heads from the sand and open their eyes to what's been going on, and unfortunately still is.

You lose an argument the moment you say somehing is correct or fact. Its opinion. Your views are heavily right wing and are based on similar narratives across social media. On the contrary 'open your eyes' and see whats going on to our country and democracy. We are being manipulated by social media especially on X. We are in a post truth society where people genuinely believe what they see online is all real. Look at MAGA. Its a cult as Trump lies about everything yet people still believe in him. Social media influenced by AI is a construct to control not to offer free speech. George Orwell 1984 was not far from the truth.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

So a swing to the left then under Burnham.

I have been a backer of Andy for 16 years. Not a swing to the left, a swing to sense.

So if you're so close to "Our Andy" and have always supported his politics during failed leadership challenges, I guess you have a bit of inside knowledge Ned.

A few questions:

1. What policy would the self anointed "King of the North" implement pretty damn quickly, as that is what is needed, to stop illegal immigration flooding into the South and then dispersed all over our poor country?

2. Starmer, with his stuttering side kick Rachel Thieves, said growth was their No 1 priority which has clearly failed. What would your beloved Andy do to address this issue? Tax us beyond what is now the biggest tax burden the people of our country have ever been subjugated to?

3. Defence, which apparently then became Starmer's No 1 policy following Minister resignations. What spending cuts will our Andy implement to fund this?

Serious questions which I would love a PM to solve. And for the record, you can't blame the Torries anymore, your mob have been here for nearly 2 years and made it 10 times worse.

Well your last sentence is wrong for a start. Things have steadied under Labour - not necessarily significant improvement, but have steadied.

As for the policies, I'm not going to pre-empt anything. He's not even leader yet.

The only thing that can be said is he will reverse some of the extremely damaging things that Thatcher did this to this country.

There will be a new chancellor.

I do agree that blaming the Tories is a weak argument.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

Starmer knows it's over. If he doesn't resign, there are close to 300 Labour MPs who back him - that's impossible to resist. As Boris Johnson said, when the herd moves it moves.

Some media have suggested Starmer could even say "you know what I'm going now, over to you Andy and see how you handle this". Because I do know Andy and Starmer do not get on. But personally I think that's unlikely, we'll see.

Andy Burnham has the mandate of the Makerfield constituency to do that.

As I've said repeatedly and have said this to other Andy backers, he does need to go to the country within 12 months though.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

So a swing to the left then under Burnham.

I have been a backer of Andy for 16 years. Not a swing to the left, a swing to sense.

So if you're so close to "Our Andy" and have always supported his politics during failed leadership challenges, I guess you have a bit of inside knowledge Ned.

A few questions:

1. What policy would the self anointed "King of the North" implement pretty damn quickly, as that is what is needed, to stop illegal immigration flooding into the South and then dispersed all over our poor country?

2. Starmer, with his stuttering side kick Rachel Thieves, said growth was their No 1 priority which has clearly failed. What would your beloved Andy do to address this issue? Tax us beyond what is now the biggest tax burden the people of our country have ever been subjugated to?

3. Defence, which apparently then became Starmer's No 1 policy following Minister resignations. What spending cuts will our Andy implement to fund this?

Serious questions which I would love a PM to solve. And for the record, you can't blame the Torries anymore, your mob have been here for nearly 2 years and made it 10 times worse.

Well your last sentence is wrong for a start. Things have steadied under Labour - not necessarily significant improvement, but have steadied.

As for the policies, I'm not going to pre-empt anything. He's not even leader yet.

The only thing that can be said is he will reverse some of the extremely damaging things that Thatcher did this to this country.

There will be a new chancellor.

[color=#FF0000]I do agree that blaming the Tories is a weak argument[/color].

Yet here you are still blaming Thatcher 45 years later. I don't have a dog in this fight but there you go.

So after two year of open borders, two-tier policing, spending billions on housing and clothing illegal immigrants who have invaded our country and betraying the very people of Britain who voted for him, two-tier Keir is finally going.

That should be excellent news....... however he will be replaced by someone who is part of the huge grooming gang cover up. White working class girls in Makerfield were raped and trafficked by asian monsters but when asked about this he called it "propaganda" and said campaigners for justice were creating "hate".

He was a minister of the home office when reports of abuse and rape by grooming gangs poured in and was also there when the home office shut down "Operation Augusta".

Even when mayor of Manchester he resisted a proper national enquiry for many years. Eventually he commissioned a local review, but the two men leading it resigned after being blocked from accessing crucial information........Hmmmmm!

I'd get yourself off X (Twitter). Go and speak to some real people and enjoy the sunshine. Stop being brainwashed by Musk bots online.

I'm not on X mate, never have been and never will be.

Everything I posted is correct. People need to remove their heads from the sand and open their eyes to what's been going on, and unfortunately still is.

You lose an argument the moment you say somehing is correct or fact. Its opinion. Your views are heavily right wing and are based on similar narratives across social media. On the contrary 'open your eyes' and see whats going on to our country and democracy. We are being manipulated by social media especially on X. We are in a post truth society where people genuinely believe what they see online is all real. Look at MAGA. Its a cult as Trump lies about everything yet people still believe in him. Social media influenced by AI is a construct to control not to offer free speech. George Orwell 1984 was not far from the truth.

What a stupid and ridiculous reply. Everything in my original post is not an opinion it's 100% CORRECT and whatever bullshit you decide to post in reply will not alter that FACT!

Look it up for yourself, maybe it'll educate you on what's really happening in our once proud country.

And as I said, I'm not on X.......

Mike Tapp MP has said a law should be created where if a party changes their leader, an immediate general election should happen. Unsurprisingly, he's a Starmer loyalist.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

So a swing to the left then under Burnham.

I have been a backer of Andy for 16 years. Not a swing to the left, a swing to sense.

So if you're so close to "Our Andy" and have always supported his politics during failed leadership challenges, I guess you have a bit of inside knowledge Ned.

A few questions:

1. What policy would the self anointed "King of the North" implement pretty damn quickly, as that is what is needed, to stop illegal immigration flooding into the South and then dispersed all over our poor country?

2. Starmer, with his stuttering side kick Rachel Thieves, said growth was their No 1 priority which has clearly failed. What would your beloved Andy do to address this issue? Tax us beyond what is now the biggest tax burden the people of our country have ever been subjugated to?

3. Defence, which apparently then became Starmer's No 1 policy following Minister resignations. What spending cuts will our Andy implement to fund this?

Serious questions which I would love a PM to solve. And for the record, you can't blame the Torries anymore, your mob have been here for nearly 2 years and made it 10 times worse.

Well your last sentence is wrong for a start. Things have steadied under Labour - not necessarily significant improvement, but have steadied.

As for the policies, I'm not going to pre-empt anything. He's not even leader yet.

The only thing that can be said is he will reverse some of the extremely damaging things that Thatcher did this to this country.

There will be a new chancellor.

[color=#FF0000]I do agree that blaming the Tories is a weak argument[/color].

Yet here you are still blaming Thatcher 45 years later. I don't have a dog in this fight but there you go.

I was more referring to the last Tory government.

But what Thatcher did was terrible. She started the process and Britain has never recovered. So we will reverse the damage of the last 40 years.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

Starmer knows it's over. If he doesn't resign, there are close to 300 Labour MPs who back him - that's impossible to resist. As Boris Johnson said, when the herd moves it moves.

Andy Burnham has the mandate of the Makerfield constituency to do that.

As I've said repeatedly and have said this to other Andy backers, he does need to go to the country within 12 months though.

24927 have endorsed him out of a voting population of 50,000,000. 9,708,716 voted for labour led by Starmer. Burnham has no mandate from the other 20 million voters.

Streeting or Cairns need to show some courage and stand; there needs to be some sort of debate, even the dodgy Tories did that in public

I doubt you've ever not voted Labour, but for those who are more objective (not a criticism), a coronation for a guy who wasn't even on the ballot for the last GE is just plain wrong and will be hammered home by every party, journalist and commentator as the great Labour stitch-up.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

Starmer knows it's over. If he doesn't resign, there are close to 300 Labour MPs who back him - that's impossible to resist. As Boris Johnson said, when the herd moves it moves.

Andy Burnham has the mandate of the Makerfield constituency to do that.

As I've said repeatedly and have said this to other Andy backers, he does need to go to the country within 12 months though.

24927 have endorsed him out of a voting population of 50,000,000. 9,708,716 voted for labour led by Starmer. Burnham has no mandate from the other 20 million voters.

Streeting or Cairns need to show some courage and stand; there needs to be some sort of debate, even the dodgy Tories did that in public

I doubt you've ever not voted Labour, but for those who are more objective (not a criticism), a coronation for a guy who wasn't even on the ballot for the last GE is just plain wrong and will be hammered home by every party, journalist and commentator as the great Labour stitch-up.

As I've said, Andy needs to go to the country within 12 months. If he does that, no need for a contest.

You say Carns and Streeting should contest it. I'm fairly certain Streeting has a big job in the Andy government lined up.

But don't forget anyone who wants to contest needs 81 Labour MPs to back them. Andy has close to 300 so there's not much room left.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

Starmer knows it's over. If he doesn't resign, there are close to 300 Labour MPs who back him - that's impossible to resist. As Boris Johnson said, when the herd moves it moves.

Andy Burnham has the mandate of the Makerfield constituency to do that.

As I've said repeatedly and have said this to other Andy backers, he does need to go to the country within 12 months though.

24927 have endorsed him out of a voting population of 50,000,000. 9,708,716 voted for labour led by Starmer. Burnham has no mandate from the other 20 million voters.

Streeting or Cairns need to show some courage and stand; there needs to be some sort of debate, even the dodgy Tories did that in public

I doubt you've ever not voted Labour, but for those who are more objective (not a criticism), a coronation for a guy who wasn't even on the ballot for the last GE is just plain wrong and will be hammered home by every party, journalist and commentator as the great Labour stitch-up.

As I've said, Andy needs to go to the country within 12 months. If he does that, no need for a contest.

You say Carns and Streeting should contest it. I'm fairly certain Streeting has a big job in the Andy government lined up.

But don't forget anyone who wants to contest needs 81 Labour MPs to back them. Andy has close to 300 so there's not much room left.

You are looking at it through a party activist's eyes, and I as a neutral. In no time in history does a total "clean Skin" rock up to parliament and take the top job within 2 weeks especially without any sort of scutiny. It's a total stitch-up.

Its a dangerous precedent, and labour is going to get hammered time and time again. He can't make any unpopular decisions because he doesn't have any sort of mandate. We kinda knew who Richi, Boris, and May were politically before their anointment.
A few junior ministerial roles 16 years ago and a regional mayorship is not enough. Should have parachiuted Drakeford in........

Keir Starmer will set a timetable for his departure as Prime Minister on Monday, following pressure from the cabinet.

It is extremely likely that Andy Burnham will replace him.

Eyebrow waxing breaks in Parliament, his first big move, you heard it here first

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

Starmer knows it's over. If he doesn't resign, there are close to 300 Labour MPs who back him - that's impossible to resist. As Boris Johnson said, when the herd moves it moves.

Andy Burnham has the mandate of the Makerfield constituency to do that.

As I've said repeatedly and have said this to other Andy backers, he does need to go to the country within 12 months though.

24927 have endorsed him out of a voting population of 50,000,000. 9,708,716 voted for labour led by Starmer. Burnham has no mandate from the other 20 million voters.

Streeting or Cairns need to show some courage and stand; there needs to be some sort of debate, even the dodgy Tories did that in public

I doubt you've ever not voted Labour, but for those who are more objective (not a criticism), a coronation for a guy who wasn't even on the ballot for the last GE is just plain wrong and will be hammered home by every party, journalist and commentator as the great Labour stitch-up.

As I've said, Andy needs to go to the country within 12 months. If he does that, no need for a contest.

You say Carns and Streeting should contest it. I'm fairly certain Streeting has a big job in the Andy government lined up.

But don't forget anyone who wants to contest needs 81 Labour MPs to back them. Andy has close to 300 so there's not much room left.

You are looking at it through a party activist's eyes, and I as a neutral. In no time in history does a total "clean Skin" rock up to parliament and take the top job within 2 weeks especially without any sort of scutiny. It's a total stitch-up.

Its a dangerous precedent, and labour is going to get hammered time and time again. He can't make any unpopular decisions because he doesn't have any sort of mandate. We kinda knew who Richi, Boris, and May were politically before their anointment.
A few junior ministerial roles 16 years ago and a regional mayorship is not enough. Should have parachiuted Drakeford in........

He won't make popular decisions, he's further left. High tax, high spend, he'll nationalize everything, continue the social justice nonsense and ignore immigration. Most of this stuff was soundly rejected by the public under Corbyn. Within 12 months isn't enough as llan said when the Tories where at it (also wrong by the way) at least these people where broadly aligned on the direction to take. Burnham and Starmer and miles apart, if your changing it up that much take it to the country

I reactivated x a few weeks back as i wanted to follow a few of the city players and club. I rarely drift over to the "for you section," but when I have its insane.

My most confused was the Patriots march get caught, filmed, doing nazi salutes, then on the same day, the Antifa mob doing the same !!!!! There is a thing called the horseshoe effect, where the far-left and far-right—rather than being at opposite ends of a linear spectrum—bend closer together like the tips of a horseshoe. Consequently, the extremes share more similarities with each other than with the political center.

Anyway, back to my question based upon "x" views, what Burnham are we getting

1- Left-wing Corbynista
2- WEF lackie taking over from Starmer the disappointing WEF stooge, different face same direction

Option 2
Same lies
Different mouth