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Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 1:20 pm

Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


You indeed were talking about two tier policing and starmer this starmer that ....exactly what making political capital ....which is what you have accused me of doing .....is !

Give your head a wobble


Sadly for you Sludge farage speaks for a lot of people in this country and you have to accept that just the same as i have to watch the spineless starmer sacking all his staff after saying he always looked after them i have to put up with this clown who has zero love for the uk but that's my opinion taking the knee putting poppy's on and off depending on which news ch was filming . ,

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 1:21 pm

Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


You indeed were talking about two tier policing and starmer this starmer that ....exactly what making political capital ....which is what you have accused me of doing .....is !

Give your head a wobble

The government and police are directly involved from the start and the reason why poor Henry was handcuffed which is what the OP asked.

As said, you brought Farage's name into this.

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 1:39 pm

Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 03cfbc2b35

Absolutely

Farage was very much aware of the families pleas for everyone to avoid political capital making ......but hes gone ahead and done it

You said farage made his comments before the family spoke

That was incorrect , the family made their comments for calm and peace yesterday , farage spoke out today


Correct.

I think it's sad that people are using this as a political football, against the wishes of the poor lad's father.

Truth is that most who are reacting like that don't give a shit about this person, they just want an excuse to make a point.

Good job that Henry Nowak was white, I doubt so many would be so up in arms if he was another ethnicity.

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 1:46 pm

Let's not forget that it was the police who released the video, it wasn't leaked elsewhere.

And the IOPC are investigating so all this bollocks about it being two tier policing ordered by the government is exactly that, bollocks.

You also have a police officer who had nothing to do with the case having to relocate because he got abuse after Farage's bumboys put two and two together and as usual ended up with 5000.

But they never let the facts get in the way.

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:10 pm

People saying if Henry had been black people wouldn't care is wrong in my opinion

We saw after the George Floyd incident when the whole country descended in to anarchy what happens when someone of ethnicity is killed

The fact is this country is split and incidents like this are almost guaranteeing a right leaning government in 2029

Will this be a good or bad thing, all depends which side of the line you are on suppose

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:38 pm

montyblue wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


You indeed were talking about two tier policing and starmer this starmer that ....exactly what making political capital ....which is what you have accused me of doing .....is !

Give your head a wobble


Sadly for you Sludge farage speaks for a lot of people in this country and you have to accept that just the same as i have to watch the spineless starmer sacking all his staff after saying he always looked after them i have to put up with this clown who has zero love for the uk but that's my opinion taking the knee putting poppy's on and off depending on which news ch was filming . ,


Farage speaks for about 30 percent of those who vote

Same sort of number who voted in starmer

Farage is a blowhard

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:41 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Let's not forget that it was the police who released the video, it wasn't leaked elsewhere.

And the IOPC are investigating so all this bollocks about it being two tier policing ordered by the government is exactly that, bollocks.

You also have a police officer who had nothing to do with the case having to relocate because he got abuse after Farage's bumboys put two and two together and as usual ended up with 5000.

But they never let the facts get in the way.


Death threats to coppers who were nothing to do with this case

Farage loves all this , hes a cttt

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:45 pm

MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


You indeed were talking about two tier policing and starmer this starmer that ....exactly what making political capital ....which is what you have accused me of doing .....is !

Give your head a wobble

The government and police are directly involved from the start and the reason why poor Henry was handcuffed which is what the OP asked.

As said, you brought Farage's name into this.


Absolutely because the cttt was on the news this morning ...after being told the family didnt want any political commenting .....doing exactly that ....

So hes a cntt and he needs to be pulled up by everyone on ignoring the wishes of the family .....all the major figures have said its a time for the family to grieve

Except nigel farage

Yep , hes made it political

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:53 pm

MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


You indeed were talking about two tier policing and starmer this starmer that ....exactly what making political capital ....which is what you have accused me of doing .....is !

Give your head a wobble

The government and police are directly involved from the start and the reason why poor Henry was handcuffed which is what the OP asked.

As said, you brought Farage's name into this.


And the reason why I brought scumball farage into it ...

https://x.com/SamCKx/status/2061754543080137123

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:10 pm

Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


You indeed were talking about two tier policing and starmer this starmer that ....exactly what making political capital ....which is what you have accused me of doing .....is !

Give your head a wobble

The government and police are directly involved from the start and the reason why poor Henry was handcuffed which is what the OP asked.

As said, you brought Farage's name into this.


And the reason why I brought scumball farage into it ...

https://x.com/SamCKx/status/2061754543080137123


Nothing to do with this clearly clashing with your own world view then

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:11 pm

Someone like Mr Farage says it far better than most can.

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:46 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 03cfbc2b35

Absolutely

Farage was very much aware of the families pleas for everyone to avoid political capital making ......but hes gone ahead and done it

You said farage made his comments before the family spoke

That was incorrect , the family made their comments for calm and peace yesterday , farage spoke out today


Correct.

I think it's sad that people are using this as a political football, against the wishes of the poor lad's father.

Truth is that most who are reacting like that don't give a shit about this person, they just want an excuse to make a point.

Good job that Henry Nowak was white, I doubt so many would be so up in arms if he was another ethnicity.

With you, Ned; and the Sludge (with his usual aggression towards others who think differently) is a prime example!

People need to spare a thought for Henry Nowak and his family, rather than cheap and crass point scoring for selfish ends :cry:

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:49 pm

Attention Moderators: I thought this was a forum for free speech and no personal abuse. Please take a look at this Sludge nutter. No sensible argument, just abuse after abuse after abuse. I guess he has a severe case of FDS, but that is not an excuse. :bluebird:

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:51 pm

Starvinmarvin wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


You indeed were talking about two tier policing and starmer this starmer that ....exactly what making political capital ....which is what you have accused me of doing .....is !

Give your head a wobble

The government and police are directly involved from the start and the reason why poor Henry was handcuffed which is what the OP asked.

As said, you brought Farage's name into this.


And the reason why I brought scumball farage into it ...

https://x.com/SamCKx/status/2061754543080137123


Nothing to do with this clearly clashing with your own world view then


Farage is an arsehole and hes embarressed himself over this

Even Kemi Badenoch is speaking sense

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:52 pm

Sven wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 03cfbc2b35

Absolutely

Farage was very much aware of the families pleas for everyone to avoid political capital making ......but hes gone ahead and done it

You said farage made his comments before the family spoke

That was incorrect , the family made their comments for calm and peace yesterday , farage spoke out today


Correct.

I think it's sad that people are using this as a political football, against the wishes of the poor lad's father.

Truth is that most who are reacting like that don't give a shit about this person, they just want an excuse to make a point.

Good job that Henry Nowak was white, I doubt so many would be so up in arms if he was another ethnicity.

With you, Ned; and the Sludge (with his usual aggression towards others who think differently) is a prime example!

People need to spare a thought for Henry Nowak and his family, rather than cheap and crass point scoring for selfish ends :cry:


Like Nigel Farage

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:54 pm

The Cobra Returns wrote:Someone like Mr Farage says it far better than most can.


Rubbish , hes the only politician who despite the call from the family has come out with his usual crap

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:58 pm

Starvinmarvin wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


You indeed were talking about two tier policing and starmer this starmer that ....exactly what making political capital ....which is what you have accused me of doing .....is !

Give your head a wobble

The government and police are directly involved from the start and the reason why poor Henry was handcuffed which is what the OP asked.

As said, you brought Farage's name into this.


And the reason why I brought scumball farage into it ...

https://x.com/SamCKx/status/2061754543080137123


Nothing to do with this clearly clashing with your own world view then


Well if you are agreeing with farages comments ......against the wishes of the family of the lad murdered then its your world view that is open to scrutiny as its very much a minority one ....all the political parties have respected the wishes of the family ....except farage and reform who represent 30 percent of those who vote so are certainly not the majority

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 4:05 pm

TheHangedMan wrote:Attention Moderators: I thought this was a forum for free speech and no personal abuse. Please take a look at this Sludge nutter. No sensible argument, just abuse after abuse after abuse. I guess he has a severe case of FDS, but that is not an excuse. :bluebird:

Totally agree mate. His attitude to those that have a different opinion to his is atrocious, personal insults and abuse but he gets away with it.

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 4:07 pm

Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


You indeed were talking about two tier policing and starmer this starmer that ....exactly what making political capital ....which is what you have accused me of doing .....is !

Give your head a wobble

The government and police are directly involved from the start and the reason why poor Henry was handcuffed which is what the OP asked.

As said, you brought Farage's name into this.


And the reason why I brought scumball farage into it ...

https://x.com/SamCKx/status/2061754543080137123

....is for your own political agenda.

I was answering the OP's question as to why poor Henry was handcuffed. Farage had nothing to do with that.

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 4:14 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 03cfbc2b35

Absolutely

Farage was very much aware of the families pleas for everyone to avoid political capital making ......but hes gone ahead and done it

You said farage made his comments before the family spoke

That was incorrect , the family made their comments for calm and peace yesterday , farage spoke out today


Correct.

I think it's sad that people are using this as a political football, against the wishes of the poor lad's father.

Truth is that most who are reacting like that don't give a shit about this person, they just want an excuse to make a point.

Good job that Henry Nowak was white, I doubt so many would be so up in arms if he was another ethnicity.

Are you serious :o If poor Henry was any other colour than white, the whole world would have been on it's knee for him and planning statues and shrines for him.

Nice comment about using it for political reasons, and then you stock the fire with your political views :banghead:

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 4:33 pm

We could all calm down ,farage was brought into the topic which was not needed, or the bad language, the topic was about the poor lad dying and been handcuffed while passing away ,
and the police attitude before they arrived on the scene which is what the opening post was getting at.

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 4:47 pm

Sludge wrote:
Sven wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.


You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.


Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.


https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 03cfbc2b35

Absolutely

Farage was very much aware of the families pleas for everyone to avoid political capital making ......but hes gone ahead and done it

You said farage made his comments before the family spoke

That was incorrect , the family made their comments for calm and peace yesterday , farage spoke out today


Correct.

I think it's sad that people are using this as a political football, against the wishes of the poor lad's father.

Truth is that most who are reacting like that don't give a shit about this person, they just want an excuse to make a point.

Good job that Henry Nowak was white, I doubt so many would be so up in arms if he was another ethnicity.

With you, Ned; and the Sludge (with his usual aggression towards others who think differently) is a prime example!

People need to spare a thought for Henry Nowak and his family, rather than cheap and crass point scoring for selfish ends :cry:


Like Nigel Farage

Nigel Farage isn’t a member of this Forum; but you are (currently)! :roll:

Your continued abuse of others is (not for the first time) both embarrassing and unwarranted! :oops:

Read TheHangedMan’s post above for good guidance and shared opinion! :ayatollah:

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 5:15 pm

Wow. This is crazy, not one person has blamed the guy with the knife who killed, him and his family and friends you set up the whole charade in the hope of getting away with it are the responsible ones, people would do well to remember that.

It’s an incredibly sad story without any doubt.
Police turn up after an emergency call to a family home limited information and led to believe Henry is the aggressor, it’s dark the officer is surrounded by lies and misdirection, the officer checked the guy over after his claims and judged he was stabbed and told him he didn’t think he was, they certainly had some concerns and when the situation calmed and back up arrived they were able to assess him better, but by coincidence the media shows no more video, I image doesn’t fit the narrative.

This guy was a killing people are forgetting this to push so kind of agenda.

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 5:23 pm

Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Wow. This is crazy, not one person has blamed the guy with the knife who killed, him and his family and friends you set up the whole charade in the hope of getting away with it are the responsible ones, people would do well to remember that.

It’s an incredibly sad story without any doubt.
Police turn up after an emergency call to a family home limited information and led to believe Henry is the aggressor, it’s dark the officer is surrounded by lies and misdirection, the officer checked the guy over after his claims and judged he was stabbed and told him he didn’t think he was, they certainly had some concerns and when the situation calmed and back up arrived they were able to assess him better, but by coincidence the media shows no more video, I image doesn’t fit the narrative.

This guy was a killing people are forgetting this to push so kind of agenda.

I think that’s a bit of a given (the ‘blame’ being with the knife wielder) but the actions of the Officers on the scene have raised serious questions

Certain comments apart, I believe that’s where the focus is on this thread

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 5:31 pm

Sven wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Wow. This is crazy, not one person has blamed the guy with the knife who killed, him and his family and friends you set up the whole charade in the hope of getting away with it are the responsible ones, people would do well to remember that.

It’s an incredibly sad story without any doubt.
Police turn up after an emergency call to a family home limited information and led to believe Henry is the aggressor, it’s dark the officer is surrounded by lies and misdirection, the officer checked the guy over after his claims and judged he was stabbed and told him he didn’t think he was, they certainly had some concerns and when the situation calmed and back up arrived they were able to assess him better, but by coincidence the media shows no more video, I image doesn’t fit the narrative.

This guy was a killing people are forgetting this to push so kind of agenda.

I think that’s a bit of a given (the ‘blame’ being with the knife wielder) but the actions of the Officers on the scene have raised serious questions

Certain comments apart, I believe that’s where the focus is on this thread

Absolutely......

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 5:32 pm

Sven wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Wow. This is crazy, not one person has blamed the guy with the knife who killed, him and his family and friends you set up the whole charade in the hope of getting away with it are the responsible ones, people would do well to remember that.

It’s an incredibly sad story without any doubt.
Police turn up after an emergency call to a family home limited information and led to believe Henry is the aggressor, it’s dark the officer is surrounded by lies and misdirection, the officer checked the guy over after his claims and judged he was stabbed and told him he didn’t think he was, they certainly had some concerns and when the situation calmed and back up arrived they were able to assess him better, but by coincidence the media shows no more video, I image doesn’t fit the narrative.

This guy was a killing people are forgetting this to push so kind of agenda.

I think that’s a bit of a given (the ‘blame’ being with the knife wielder) but the actions of the Officers on the scene have raised serious questions

Certain comments apart, I believe that’s where the focus is on this thread


Maybe, but to me it doesn’t read that way. It’s a sad sad situation where 21 years is no where near long enough a sentence. But I’ve only seen a couple of minutes of footage I’m not party to all the facts and evidence, I’m sure all involved are devastated by what’s happened except he guilty guys friends and family. In my opinion we blaming a the wrong people here as a nation.

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 5:32 pm

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 6:06 pm

I've just watched the full police body cam and was drawn to tears. Unbelievable, so sad. If this keeps happening in my country......it is not my country, the one that I was brought up to respect and love. :bluebird:

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 6:11 pm

Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Sven wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Wow. This is crazy, not one person has blamed the guy with the knife who killed, him and his family and friends you set up the whole charade in the hope of getting away with it are the responsible ones, people would do well to remember that.

It’s an incredibly sad story without any doubt.
Police turn up after an emergency call to a family home limited information and led to believe Henry is the aggressor, it’s dark the officer is surrounded by lies and misdirection, the officer checked the guy over after his claims and judged he was stabbed and told him he didn’t think he was, they certainly had some concerns and when the situation calmed and back up arrived they were able to assess him better, but by coincidence the media shows no more video, I image doesn’t fit the narrative.

This guy was a killing people are forgetting this to push so kind of agenda.

I think that’s a bit of a given (the ‘blame’ being with the knife wielder) but the actions of the Officers on the scene have raised serious questions

Certain comments apart, I believe that’s where the focus is on this thread


Maybe, but to me it doesn’t read that way. It’s a sad sad situation where 21 years is no where near long enough a sentence. But I’ve only seen a couple of minutes of footage I’m not party to all the facts and evidence, I’m sure all involved are devastated by what’s happened except he guilty guys friends and family. In my opinion we blaming a the wrong people here as a nation.

Not aimed at you, but look at Sludge; everything can be interpreted to suit an agenda on here! ;) :thumbright:

Re: OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Tue Jun 02, 2026 6:22 pm

Sven wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Sven wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Wow. This is crazy, not one person has blamed the guy with the knife who killed, him and his family and friends you set up the whole charade in the hope of getting away with it are the responsible ones, people would do well to remember that.

It’s an incredibly sad story without any doubt.
Police turn up after an emergency call to a family home limited information and led to believe Henry is the aggressor, it’s dark the officer is surrounded by lies and misdirection, the officer checked the guy over after his claims and judged he was stabbed and told him he didn’t think he was, they certainly had some concerns and when the situation calmed and back up arrived they were able to assess him better, but by coincidence the media shows no more video, I image doesn’t fit the narrative.

This guy was a killing people are forgetting this to push so kind of agenda.

I think that’s a bit of a given (the ‘blame’ being with the knife wielder) but the actions of the Officers on the scene have raised serious questions

Certain comments apart, I believe that’s where the focus is on this thread


Maybe, but to me it doesn’t read that way. It’s a sad sad situation where 21 years is no where near long enough a sentence. But I’ve only seen a couple of minutes of footage I’m not party to all the facts and evidence, I’m sure all involved are devastated by what’s happened except he guilty guys friends and family. In my opinion we blaming a the wrong people here as a nation.

Not aimed at you, but look at Sludge; everything can be interpreted to suit an agenda on here! ;) :thumbright:


You are not wrong there Sven.