Tue Nov 11, 2025 1:27 pm
MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Pep or Klopp could have took charge of Rochdale and still took them down. If you Havnt got the players then sometimes there’s not much you can do.
He has no excuses here though. He has to keep us in the top 2 with the players he has here. If we are below the top 2 come January then he may not be the right man to take us forward.
What’s so special about our players?
I posted something the other day about how very few of our players have actually performed consistently in league football.
Trott - people claim to be the best goalkeeper in the league.
Chambers - an experienced PL player
Ng - proven solid championship RB
Osho - proven championship + Ligue 1 player
Turnbull - cost 3m(?) decent player for Celtic with Europe and CL experience
Wintle - experienced championship player
Rubin - people claim to be too good for league 1
Robertson - brilliant in this league with pompy
Willock - experienced championship player
Salech - people claimed to be too good for league 1
Robinson - proven
Then you have players like Lawlor, Kpakio, Will Pysgod, Joel Colwill getting massive plaudits.
If you look at our team ON PAPER we should be good enough to win this league. There’s a lot of proven and expensive players there for league 1. For whatever reason some of these are not performing to standards they’ve set before. Is it playstyle? Management? Or have they just been over estimated?
Tue Nov 11, 2025 1:30 pm
MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Pep or Klopp could have took charge of Rochdale and still took them down. If you Havnt got the players then sometimes there’s not much you can do.
He has no excuses here though. He has to keep us in the top 2 with the players he has here. If we are below the top 2 come January then he may not be the right man to take us forward.
What’s so special about our players?
I posted something the other day about how very few of our players have actually performed consistently in league football.
Trott - people claim to be the best goalkeeper in the league.
Chambers - an experienced PL player
Ng - proven solid championship RB
Osho - proven championship + Ligue 1 player
Turnbull - cost 3m(?) decent player for Celtic with Europe and CL experience
Wintle - experienced championship player
Rubin - people claim to be too good for league 1
Robertson - brilliant in this league with pompy
Willock - experienced championship player
Salech - people claimed to be too good for league 1
Robinson - proven
Then you have players like Lawlor, Kpakio, Will Pysgod, Joel Colwill getting massive plaudits.
If you look at our team ON PAPER we should be good enough to win this league. There’s a lot of proven and expensive players there for league 1. For whatever reason some of these are not performing to standards they’ve set before. Is it playstyle? Management? Or have they just been over estimated?
Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:43 pm
maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Pep or Klopp could have took charge of Rochdale and still took them down. If you Havnt got the players then sometimes there’s not much you can do.
He has no excuses here though. He has to keep us in the top 2 with the players he has here. If we are below the top 2 come January then he may not be the right man to take us forward.
What’s so special about our players?
I posted something the other day about how very few of our players have actually performed consistently in league football.
Trott - people claim to be the best goalkeeper in the league.
Chambers - an experienced PL player
Ng - proven solid championship RB
Osho - proven championship + Ligue 1 player
Turnbull - cost 3m(?) decent player for Celtic with Europe and CL experience
Wintle - experienced championship player
Rubin - people claim to be too good for league 1
Robertson - brilliant in this league with pompy
Willock - experienced championship player
Salech - people claimed to be too good for league 1
Robinson - proven
Then you have players like Lawlor, Kpakio, Will Pysgod, Joel Colwill getting massive plaudits.
If you look at our team ON PAPER we should be good enough to win this league. There’s a lot of proven and expensive players there for league 1. For whatever reason some of these are not performing to standards they’ve set before. Is it playstyle? Management? Or have they just been over estimated?
I’m not sure it’s a championship side really.
Trott hasn’t played in the championship
Kpakio hasn’t played in the championship
Ng has played well in the championship
Bagan hasn’t played well in the championship
Lawlor hasn’t played in the championship
Osho hasn’t played much at championship level
Fish didn’t play much in the championship certainly not well
Chambers has played well at a level above the championship but didn’t for us last year
Colwill,R has been very inconsistent at championship level
Turnbull hasn’t played well at championship level
Robertson hasn’t played well at championship level
Wintle hasn’t played well at championship level
Colwill, J hasn’t played well at championship level
Willock hasn’t played well for us at championship level
Ashford has been very inconsistent at championship level
Davies hasn’t played well for us at championship level
Kellyman hasn’t played at championship level
Salech has had half a good season at championship level
Robinson was very inconsistent at championship level
We don’t have much championship experience at all. Not sure why people think we are a championship club with championship level players. We finished bottom of that league and then lost half the squad.
BBM is rotating to keep the players fresh. He knows better than us I’m sure what makes young players tick.
Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:55 pm
Mr Moo Cow wrote:He maybe a good coach for Man City
But he is a worry
Tan is ruining the club with lack of investment yet our support is superb
Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:37 pm
MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Pep or Klopp could have took charge of Rochdale and still took them down. If you Havnt got the players then sometimes there’s not much you can do.
He has no excuses here though. He has to keep us in the top 2 with the players he has here. If we are below the top 2 come January then he may not be the right man to take us forward.
What’s so special about our players?
I posted something the other day about how very few of our players have actually performed consistently in league football.
Trott - people claim to be the best goalkeeper in the league.
Chambers - an experienced PL player
Ng - proven solid championship RB
Osho - proven championship + Ligue 1 player
Turnbull - cost 3m(?) decent player for Celtic with Europe and CL experience
Wintle - experienced championship player
Rubin - people claim to be too good for league 1
Robertson - brilliant in this league with pompy
Willock - experienced championship player
Salech - people claimed to be too good for league 1
Robinson - proven
Then you have players like Lawlor, Kpakio, Will Pysgod, Joel Colwill getting massive plaudits.
If you look at our team ON PAPER we should be good enough to win this league. There’s a lot of proven and expensive players there for league 1. For whatever reason some of these are not performing to standards they’ve set before. Is it playstyle? Management? Or have they just been over estimated?
I’m not sure it’s a championship side really.
Trott hasn’t played in the championship
Kpakio hasn’t played in the championship
Ng has played well in the championship
Bagan hasn’t played well in the championship
Lawlor hasn’t played in the championship
Osho hasn’t played much at championship level
Fish didn’t play much in the championship certainly not well
Chambers has played well at a level above the championship but didn’t for us last year
Colwill,R has been very inconsistent at championship level
Turnbull hasn’t played well at championship level
Robertson hasn’t played well at championship level
Wintle hasn’t played well at championship level
Colwill, J hasn’t played well at championship level
Willock hasn’t played well for us at championship level
Ashford has been very inconsistent at championship level
Davies hasn’t played well for us at championship level
Kellyman hasn’t played at championship level
Salech has had half a good season at championship level
Robinson was very inconsistent at championship level
We don’t have much championship experience at all. Not sure why people think we are a championship club with championship level players. We finished bottom of that league and then lost half the squad.
BBM is rotating to keep the players fresh. He knows better than us I’m sure what makes young players tick.
I agree with your assessment of the players but the point I’m trying to make, is that they should be performing a lot better than they are or have been. They all have a decent reputation until coming to Cardiff. The reason for that needs to be looked at. I’m positive we can get more out of these players.
Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:42 pm
maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Pep or Klopp could have took charge of Rochdale and still took them down. If you Havnt got the players then sometimes there’s not much you can do.
He has no excuses here though. He has to keep us in the top 2 with the players he has here. If we are below the top 2 come January then he may not be the right man to take us forward.
What’s so special about our players?
I posted something the other day about how very few of our players have actually performed consistently in league football.
Trott - people claim to be the best goalkeeper in the league.
Chambers - an experienced PL player
Ng - proven solid championship RB
Osho - proven championship + Ligue 1 player
Turnbull - cost 3m(?) decent player for Celtic with Europe and CL experience
Wintle - experienced championship player
Rubin - people claim to be too good for league 1
Robertson - brilliant in this league with pompy
Willock - experienced championship player
Salech - people claimed to be too good for league 1
Robinson - proven
Then you have players like Lawlor, Kpakio, Will Pysgod, Joel Colwill getting massive plaudits.
If you look at our team ON PAPER we should be good enough to win this league. There’s a lot of proven and expensive players there for league 1. For whatever reason some of these are not performing to standards they’ve set before. Is it playstyle? Management? Or have they just been over estimated?
I’m not sure it’s a championship side really.
Trott hasn’t played in the championship
Kpakio hasn’t played in the championship
Ng has played well in the championship
Bagan hasn’t played well in the championship
Lawlor hasn’t played in the championship
Osho hasn’t played much at championship level
Fish didn’t play much in the championship certainly not well
Chambers has played well at a level above the championship but didn’t for us last year
Colwill,R has been very inconsistent at championship level
Turnbull hasn’t played well at championship level
Robertson hasn’t played well at championship level
Wintle hasn’t played well at championship level
Colwill, J hasn’t played well at championship level
Willock hasn’t played well for us at championship level
Ashford has been very inconsistent at championship level
Davies hasn’t played well for us at championship level
Kellyman hasn’t played at championship level
Salech has had half a good season at championship level
Robinson was very inconsistent at championship level
We don’t have much championship experience at all. Not sure why people think we are a championship club with championship level players. We finished bottom of that league and then lost half the squad.
BBM is rotating to keep the players fresh. He knows better than us I’m sure what makes young players tick.
I agree with your assessment of the players but the point I’m trying to make, is that they should be performing a lot better than they are or have been. They all have a decent reputation until coming to Cardiff. The reason for that needs to be looked at. I’m positive we can get more out of these players.
I’m not sure why they should be performing better is my point.
Our youngsters have a high ceiling. But they are going to be inconsistent.
Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:31 pm
MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Pep or Klopp could have took charge of Rochdale and still took them down. If you Havnt got the players then sometimes there’s not much you can do.
He has no excuses here though. He has to keep us in the top 2 with the players he has here. If we are below the top 2 come January then he may not be the right man to take us forward.
What’s so special about our players?
I posted something the other day about how very few of our players have actually performed consistently in league football.
Trott - people claim to be the best goalkeeper in the league.
Chambers - an experienced PL player
Ng - proven solid championship RB
Osho - proven championship + Ligue 1 player
Turnbull - cost 3m(?) decent player for Celtic with Europe and CL experience
Wintle - experienced championship player
Rubin - people claim to be too good for league 1
Robertson - brilliant in this league with pompy
Willock - experienced championship player
Salech - people claimed to be too good for league 1
Robinson - proven
Then you have players like Lawlor, Kpakio, Will Pysgod, Joel Colwill getting massive plaudits.
If you look at our team ON PAPER we should be good enough to win this league. There’s a lot of proven and expensive players there for league 1. For whatever reason some of these are not performing to standards they’ve set before. Is it playstyle? Management? Or have they just been over estimated?
I’m not sure it’s a championship side really.
Trott hasn’t played in the championship
Kpakio hasn’t played in the championship
Ng has played well in the championship
Bagan hasn’t played well in the championship
Lawlor hasn’t played in the championship
Osho hasn’t played much at championship level
Fish didn’t play much in the championship certainly not well
Chambers has played well at a level above the championship but didn’t for us last year
Colwill,R has been very inconsistent at championship level
Turnbull hasn’t played well at championship level
Robertson hasn’t played well at championship level
Wintle hasn’t played well at championship level
Colwill, J hasn’t played well at championship level
Willock hasn’t played well for us at championship level
Ashford has been very inconsistent at championship level
Davies hasn’t played well for us at championship level
Kellyman hasn’t played at championship level
Salech has had half a good season at championship level
Robinson was very inconsistent at championship level
We don’t have much championship experience at all. Not sure why people think we are a championship club with championship level players. We finished bottom of that league and then lost half the squad.
BBM is rotating to keep the players fresh. He knows better than us I’m sure what makes young players tick.
I agree with your assessment of the players but the point I’m trying to make, is that they should be performing a lot better than they are or have been. They all have a decent reputation until coming to Cardiff. The reason for that needs to be looked at. I’m positive we can get more out of these players.
I’m not sure why they should be performing better is my point.
Our youngsters have a high ceiling. But they are going to be inconsistent.
I remember people were excited when we signed Chambers, Willock, Wintle, Turnbull, Robertson and so on. They’ve come with a reputation but they aren’t showing it for some reason. That’s why I expect more from them due to their reputation before hand. If that makes sense.
Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:45 pm