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Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:28 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:I expect some will go into meltdown following this result.

I won't be joining in with that.

We should have had the game won by half time. Just like against Burton, it was missed chances yet again which cost us. Far too many missed chances.

As soon as Blackpool scored straight after half time, I knew it wasn't our day.

Their keeper was brilliant in the first half.

We could have handled it better in the second half but this was not a terrible performance, the 3-0 scoreline doesn't reflect the game.

There will be ups and downs as the season goes on but the good thing is that this hasn't changed much at the top due to other performances.

I'm disappointed with us not taking our chances again, but in a strange way am not that disappointed by the performance because we did everything else right in terms of how we played.

I was also pleased by how we kept going and ended up scoring late on. Goal difference could come into it at the end of the season.




So yes I'm very disappointed about the result but I'm not going to pretend I hated the performance when I didn't.

I agree with you Ned. If chambers had put that header away I think we would have won.

We missed Wintle big time today and looking at the stats the scoreline flatters Blackpool.

I've said it before, we are too inconsistent. BBM needs to sort that out and toughen Salech up, he's far too weak and chickens out of headers in the box.

No need to panic yet, still plenty of time to get it right.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:29 pm

I am getting cheesed off with seeing a wide forward and a fullback both standing on the touchline within 5 yards of each other.. I just don’t get that.

We need to get the ball in the box more often and get more bodies in the box. When one winger is (hopefully) crossing a ball the other winger should be in the box looking to score. Too often our widemen are lingering 10 yards behind the back post.

For us to get promoted one or both wingers probably needs to score 10 plus goals, do any of our wide players look like doing that?

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:29 pm

We cant defend and we cant score goals .
Maybe its the bit in the middle ( midfield)
Rubin is a luxury in this division.
We need an up and down battler

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:30 pm

Big opportunity missed to go top with a game in hand on most.

It's a game we should've won, didn't take our chances when on top but I'm still backing BBM to sort it out.

Personally I think it's time to play Salech and Robinson together, teams sit in and make it difficult for us and we need goalscorers on the pitch to take advantage.

If we got the first goal today it would've been a stroll we didn't and the response to them scoring was really poor.

These are young players remember and I think their game management at times is understandably poor.

We still lack a cool head when things aren't going our way to calm things down. Chambers is not the answer as captain.

Just remember we have a game in hand and we'll be back top if we win that keep the faith.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:32 pm

Clearly just Salech up front does not work. Refs in this division don't give him the decision it won't change. We are also so wide open in defence. Too many times just 1 against 1 bearing down on our goalie. Need to be much tighter defensively and this is a team responsibility.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:35 pm

montyblue wrote:Are we still denying that new recruits are not needed? and the squad is good enough, this score would be acceptable if it was the teams around we were playing us but a team near the bottom is a poor result and it's the result that counts not possession.



Sadly Yes some are Monty,

We are struggling big time against the worst teams.

The first 10mins we could of been 2down

We woke up and were excellent for 35mins

Then 2nd half we were Disastrous and remember Blackpool 23rd in the league

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:59 pm

I am not joining the meltdown, but doubts over BBM have surfaced recently.

Plan A- 4231, super wide inverted forwards holding wide, go behind 442 with wingers who are not wingers on the wrong foot


When Rubin wanders, there is barely anyone within the same postcode as Salech

Ashford, Davies, and Kellymen all want to play in the inside channel but they barely move until we go all-in attack mode.

I think he is so wed to 4231 that he will die by it. This team needs to go 343 with wingback providing the width and give the opposition more to think about centrally and overload them !!!

He won't he only knows what Pep does.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:59 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Ned please please you did this with Riza

6 Defeats from 11 games

You should be honest about the last couple of months


I'm judging the performance I've seen, not just looking at the result.

All the chances we missed are why we lost, that's the reality.

People on here were saying they were happy with our performance at half time.


Unfortunately the result is the ONLY thing that counts.

We can perform brilliantly in every game but an inability to convert chances into goals and an inability to adapt the playing style will result in us dropping down the table quickly.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:01 pm

Forget Blackpool’s current league position, they’re on a new manager bounce. Peterborough also won 5–0 against a team much higher than them in the league, so form tables don’t tell the full story.

What cost us today was not taking our chances when we were on top. The first 10 minutes are always going to be tough, it’s no surprise the home team applies pressure early. We came through that, but ruthless, promotion-chasing sides like Birmingham last year score at key moments in games. They also spent 13m on a striker to guarantee it.

We lost today simply because we weren’t ruthless enough. It’s been a recurring theme all season. Look at Burton in the first half, or even when we beat Wrexham we still should’ve been 3–0 up by half-time.

I’ve been disappointed with Salech this season and expected more from him. No surprise either that the men in the middle turned in another inept performance. How many points are they going to cost us, as officials just don't seem accountable at league 1 level.

We definitely need to add goals to the squad in January both a striker and from wide areas.


And I agree with Ned, as a fanbase, we’re far too quick to hit the panic button. Yes, the current run is concerning, but it’s also part of the process of completely changing our playing identity and trusting the academy talent coming through. This is nothing like last season or the Riza situation.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:01 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I am not joining the meltdown, but doubts over BBM have surfaced recently.

Plan A- 4231, super wide inverted forwards holding wide, go behind 442 with wingers who are not wingers on the wrong foot


When Rubin wanders, there is barely anyone within the same postcode as Salech

Ashford, Davies, and Kellymen all want to play in the inside channel but they barely move until we go all-in attack mode.

I think he is so wed to 4231 that he will die by it. This team needs to go 343 with wingback providing the width and give the opposition more to think about centrally and overload them !!!

He won't he only knows what Pep does.


As somebody posted before it's the same inflexibility as Russell Martin.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:07 pm

theDelaney88 wrote:You can’t be 3-0 down at one point and say “we played well”.

We’ve played badly more times this season than we’ve played well. Scraped victories and lost to some dreadful teams.

BBM needs to sort it out pronto. This sort of inconsistency will see us staying in league 1 for sure.

I think you can; just as you can say a team played poorly, yet came away with a 3-0 win! :thumbup:

Sometimes, it’s just not your, or is your day, no matter what you do! :ayatollah:

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:09 pm

Well done Ian evatt who I would of taken as the next city manager after riza did a job on us today

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:09 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I am not joining the meltdown, but doubts over BBM have surfaced recently.

Plan A- 4231, super wide inverted forwards holding wide, go behind 442 with wingers who are not wingers on the wrong foot


When Rubin wanders, there is barely anyone within the same postcode as Salech

Ashford, Davies, and Kellymen all want to play in the inside channel but they barely move until we go all-in attack mode.

I think he is so wed to 4231 that he will die by it. This team needs to go 343 with wingback providing the width and give the opposition more to think about centrally and overload them !!!

He won't he only knows what Pep does.


I agree..We need more players in and around Salech and I sound like a broken record here, but we need more goals and assists from our wingers.. let the wingback do the crossing and get them in the box to convert

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:12 pm

We lost today because some players are not up to the standard some think we are like we should walk this league do me a favour we couldn't tread water at the moment on a sinking ship pardon the pun

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:16 pm

Most league wins, highest goal difference, 3 points off the top with a game in hand.

I think supporting the team, manager and club at this point is still a must.

Teams dropping fromm Champ to L1 rarely have a good time of it. Look at Luton and more so Plymouth. We are making a better fist of it than most.

4 losses in 14 league games, cup games are always a lottery and have no bearing on league positions.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:23 pm

Wayne S wrote:Most league wins, highest goal difference, 3 points off the top with a game in hand.

I think supporting the team, manager and club at this point is still a must.

Teams dropping fromm Champ to L1 rarely have a good time of it. Look at Luton and more so Plymouth. We are making a better fist of it than most.

4 losses in 14 league games, cup games are always a lottery and have no bearing on league positions.

Absolutely mate. It's still early in the season, plenty of time for BBM to sort things out but he does have issues to attend to.

The way most on here are reacting to this defeat, you'd think we were in Plymouth's position.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:40 pm

Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:44 pm

montyblue wrote:Are we still denying that new recruits are not needed? and the squad is good enough, this score would be acceptable if it was the teams around we were playing us but a team near the bottom is a poor result and it's the result that counts not possession.



Sadly We are Monty,

The standard is atrocious and yet BBM has the Tools and is Mr TINKERMAN and this will haunt him unless he stops

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:59 pm

Weve moved all the rubbish out , now this team needs experience and guidance , weve lacked a leader for many years , come on tan help these youngsters out with knowledge

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 7:05 pm

People say bbm as got to learn? Well other managers have learned from how city play but bbm hasn't learned to change how ae play! Result teams defend deeply knowing we attack at snail speed and commit players to control play inside opponents half
But like today how many times this season have we been caught short at back because we are camped upfield passing back and forth until lose possession without attempt at goal and the breakaway starts and we are punished! Yes had 25+ shots at goal but only 2 or 3 was threatening why because we are trying to shoot through an 11 man defence and not sure can hit an elephant standing in goal trying to get shot on target.... no need to panic but there is a trend appearing which cannot be denied ... and if it continues we'll be outside playoff position before we realise it.... bbm should try sticking to same players for a number of games then see if we still concede goals like we have been doing ....ohh and try putting another player within 20yrds of Salech would seriously help one would think.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 7:17 pm

MikeO76 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Most league wins, highest goal difference, 3 points off the top with a game in hand.

I think supporting the team, manager and club at this point is still a must.

Teams dropping fromm Champ to L1 rarely have a good time of it. Look at Luton and more so Plymouth. We are making a better fist of it than most.

4 losses in 14 league games, cup games are always a lottery and have no bearing on league positions.

Absolutely mate. It's still early in the season, plenty of time for BBM to sort things out but he does have issues to attend to.

The way most on here are reacting to this defeat, you'd think we were in Plymouth's position.


Agree that it is not all moonlight and roses. There are issues but those issues are the difference between being champions or play off contenders and nothing more.

That said Play Offs can go Fk Off. So I would like some sort of strengthening in January.

The kids are doing fine but it would be wrong to rely on them all season in a very physical League 1.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:19 pm

Wayne S wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Most league wins, highest goal difference, 3 points off the top with a game in hand.

I think supporting the team, manager and club at this point is still a must.

Teams dropping fromm Champ to L1 rarely have a good time of it. Look at Luton and more so Plymouth. We are making a better fist of it than most.

4 losses in 14 league games, cup games are always a lottery and have no bearing on league positions.

Absolutely mate. It's still early in the season, plenty of time for BBM to sort things out but he does have issues to attend to.

The way most on here are reacting to this defeat, you'd think we were in Plymouth's position.


Agree that it is not all moonlight and roses. There are issues but those issues are the difference between being champions or play off contenders and nothing more.

That said Play Offs can go Fk Off. So I would like some sort of strengthening in January.

The kids are doing fine but it would be wrong to rely on them all season in a very physical League 1.


If BBM keeps insisting he's happy with the size and quality of his squad there's no way Tan will spend any money in January.

Even if BBM changes his view I still can't see Tan putting his hand in his pocket.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:44 pm

It’s ok we are selling Lawlor for £40 million aren’t we? Plenty of money for players.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:49 pm

desbluebird wrote:Well done Ian evatt who I would of taken as the next city manager after riza did a job on us today

Glad someone has mentioned him, he was one of 3 managers intervieved by our idiots before BBM got the job, they all run away knowing the circumstances to work under told by Tan. We'll finish on a par with Blackpool, about 10th.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:08 pm

Reality check....teams have found us out, BBM diesnt seem to be able to combat it, the last 3 or 4 losses he said the same thing....its not not good enough, we have to improve.... well you havent,,, opoortunities to criss.... ball goes back , poor.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:19 pm

pembroke allan wrote:People say bbm as got to learn? Well other managers have learned from how city play but bbm hasn't learned to change how ae play! Result teams defend deeply knowing we attack at snail speed and commit players to control play inside opponents half
But like today how many times this season have we been caught short at back because we are camped upfield passing back and forth until lose possession without attempt at goal and the breakaway starts and we are punished! Yes had 25+ shots at goal but only 2 or 3 was threatening why because we are trying to shoot through an 11 man defence and not sure can hit an elephant standing in goal trying to get shot on target.... no need to panic but there is a trend appearing which cannot be denied ... and if it continues we'll be outside playoff position before we realise it.... bbm should try sticking to same players for a number of games then see if we still concede goals like we have been doing ....ohh and try putting another player within 20yrds of Salech would seriously help one would think.

He won't change its the same system and tactics every game irrelevant of result or who we are playing it seems a like for like when he does change things or he sticks Robinson on when it's to late and then he's in a number ten free role half the time. It baffles me how tinkerman is so one dimensional every game it's more about getting it wide with 11 passes then pass it back to everyone who had the ball before then back to our the goal keeper rather than cross it. It kills me watching at times knowing it's so predictable and teams have sussed us . Although we don't have any money he's just towing the party line to the media saying he's happy with the squad and so on but with what he's got squad wise I Expect us to slide down the table sooner or later sadly as he won't change the system or his tactics.
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Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:19 pm

BBM was brought in to do a specific job with the young players, and development of these players takes a long time.
Cry all night, but we have no money. He’s doing a great job, well done BBM.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:35 pm

rumpo kid wrote:BBM was brought in to do a specific job with the young players, and development of these players takes a long time.
Cry all night, but we have no money. He’s doing a great job, well done BBM.

He was brought in because he was the ONLY manager interviewed who would accept the dictators conditions.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:39 pm

davids wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Most league wins, highest goal difference, 3 points off the top with a game in hand.

I think supporting the team, manager and club at this point is still a must.

Teams dropping fromm Champ to L1 rarely have a good time of it. Look at Luton and more so Plymouth. We are making a better fist of it than most.

4 losses in 14 league games, cup games are always a lottery and have no bearing on league positions.

Absolutely mate. It's still early in the season, plenty of time for BBM to sort things out but he does have issues to attend to.

The way most on here are reacting to this defeat, you'd think we were in Plymouth's position.


Agree that it is not all moonlight and roses. There are issues but those issues are the difference between being champions or play off contenders and nothing more.

That said Play Offs can go Fk Off. So I would like some sort of strengthening in January.

The kids are doing fine but it would be wrong to rely on them all season in a very physical League 1.


If BBM keeps insisting he's happy with the size and quality of his squad there's no way Tan will spend any money in January.

Even if BBM changes his view I still can't see Tan putting his hand in his pocket.

BBM is only saying he's happy with the size of the squad cos Tan has told him to say that.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:09 pm

Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.