The 12 games verdict?

What do you mean by take us forward?
Just back up the championship?
Back up and stay up lower half table?
Back up 10 ten finish.
Back up play offs 2nd season up.
Back up and challenging for automatic promotion?

They all taking us forward it different ways. If it’s is just to get promoted this season then of course hard to argue any different.

You're just being obtuse for the sake of it because you, apparently, are not happy unless we're losing & you can have a good moan.

Lol I’m generally not. Then in my eyes no he is not the guy to take us forward to where we really should be. He will take us up I believe but as it stands he will be way out of his depth.
So where’s this evidence then of me just moaning? Find a post where I’m not in support of Murphy or the team.

Didn’t take long to find a deliberately obtuse moaning post from you.
Sat Oct 18, 2025 2:43 pm
Are our defenders wearing shock collars & they get shocked if they stray over the half way line? As soon as the get there they stop, look around & pass it sideways or backwards, I don't get it.

Yes I said that so what? I was 100% correct when I said it during what was probably our worst half of football this season.

So we should sack him now then? Is that what you're saying? Yes or no, simple question.

Absolutely not.
Like I said find somewhere where I say Murphy should keep his job. You cant can you simple question yes or no.
You made a silly comment about me with no evidence, I think further down the line than instant gratification. You need to relax mate , you know it’s alright for people to have they own opinions yeah?

Definitely the right management team atm , needs to be back a bit in January a couple more to push us up , if we do go up , he will need a lot more backing tho , this team will be murdered in the championship.

You can’t say that wez. California will have a meltdown even though he slags the way we play constantly. Only he’s allowed to do that.

What do you mean by take us forward?
Just back up the championship?
Back up and stay up lower half table?
Back up 10 ten finish.
Back up play offs 2nd season up.
Back up and challenging for automatic promotion?

They all taking us forward it different ways. If it’s is just to get promoted this season then of course hard to argue any different.

You're just being obtuse for the sake of it because you, apparently, are not happy unless we're losing & you can have a good moan.

Lol I’m generally not. Then in my eyes no he is not the guy to take us forward to where we really should be. He will take us up I believe but as it stands he will be way out of his depth.
So where’s this evidence then of me just moaning? Find a post where I’m not in support of Murphy or the team.

Didn’t take long to find a deliberately obtuse moaning post from you.
Sat Oct 18, 2025 2:43 pm
Are our defenders wearing shock collars & they get shocked if they stray over the half way line? As soon as the get there they stop, look around & pass it sideways or backwards, I don't get it.

Yes I said that so what? I was 100% correct when I said it during what was probably our worst half of football this season.

So we should sack him now then? Is that what you're saying? Yes or no, simple question.

Absolutely not.
Like I said find somewhere where I say Murphy should keep his job. You cant can you simple question yes or no.
You made a silly comment about me with no evidence, I think further down the line than instant gratification. You need to relax mate , you know it’s alright for people to have they own opinions yeah?

That's why I asked you & now we know, you think Murphy shouldn't keep his job. I'm not desperate enough for attention to go looking through someone's posts to prove a point, I'll leave that to others.

You're entitled to your opinion but mentioning me when others post is very childish. If I have an issue with anything that wez said I'll say so, it's not your job to police everything I say or think, even if you think it is. Show me where I had a meltdown, I asked a question & made a comment, kids today .

Absolutely the right man for the moment.

We are higher in the table than many if not most of us expected.

We have seen games where we have been superb start to finish.

We have seen games where we have been slow out of the gates and came back.

We have seen games where we have been poor.

And we have taken points (often maximum) from all variations.

The manager is learning on the job, and the players (esp youngsters) are learning with him.


Not perfect, but the best we have seen in years.

Let’s take a step back and remember, he can only piss with the dick he’s given.

If he’d spent massive amounts in the window and we were as ropey at times, there may be a question.

Fact is we were only favourites to go back up in our eyes, and that was largely based on hope our youth pulled through, which fortunately they have so far thanks to BBM.

I voted yes. I could over dream it and question if he’s the right person to manage us if we got into the champions league, if we had billions to spend is he the right guy to bring those players in, but at the moment the goal is promotion, and he gives us the best chance of that.

What do you mean by take us forward?
Just back up the championship?
Back up and stay up lower half table?
Back up 10 ten finish.
Back up play offs 2nd season up.
Back up and challenging for automatic promotion?

They all taking us forward it different ways. If it’s is just to get promoted this season then of course hard to argue any different.

You're just being obtuse for the sake of it because you, apparently, are not happy unless we're losing & you can have a good moan.

Lol I’m generally not. Then in my eyes no he is not the guy to take us forward to where we really should be. He will take us up I believe but as it stands he will be way out of his depth.
So where’s this evidence then of me just moaning? Find a post where I’m not in support of Murphy or the team.

Didn’t take long to find a deliberately obtuse moaning post from you.
Sat Oct 18, 2025 2:43 pm
Are our defenders wearing shock collars & they get shocked if they stray over the half way line? As soon as the get there they stop, look around & pass it sideways or backwards, I don't get it.

Yes I said that so what? I was 100% correct when I said it during what was probably our worst half of football this season.

So we should sack him now then? Is that what you're saying? Yes or no, simple question.

Absolutely not.
Like I said find somewhere where I say Murphy should keep his job. You cant can you simple question yes or no.
You made a silly comment about me with no evidence, I think further down the line than instant gratification. You need to relax mate , you know it’s alright for people to have they own opinions yeah?

That's why I asked you & now we know, you think Murphy shouldn't keep his job. I'm not desperate enough for attention to go looking through someone's posts to prove a point, I'll leave that to others.

You're entitled to your opinion but mentioning me when others post is very childish. If I have an issue with anything that wez said I'll say so, it's not your job to police everything I say or think, even if you think it is. Show me where I had a meltdown, I asked a question & made a comment, kids today .

But you can’t say police things I say.
I pretty sure you just on the wind up and having a laugh because you surely can’t be that hypocritical.

What do you mean by take us forward?
Just back up the championship?
Back up and stay up lower half table?
Back up 10 ten finish.
Back up play offs 2nd season up.
Back up and challenging for automatic promotion?

They all taking us forward it different ways. If it’s is just to get promoted this season then of course hard to argue any different.

You're just being obtuse for the sake of it because you, apparently, are not happy unless we're losing & you can have a good moan.

Lol I’m generally not. Then in my eyes no he is not the guy to take us forward to where we really should be. He will take us up I believe but as it stands he will be way out of his depth.
So where’s this evidence then of me just moaning? Find a post where I’m not in support of Murphy or the team.

Didn’t take long to find a deliberately obtuse moaning post from you.
Sat Oct 18, 2025 2:43 pm
Are our defenders wearing shock collars & they get shocked if they stray over the half way line? As soon as the get there they stop, look around & pass it sideways or backwards, I don't get it.

Yes I said that so what? I was 100% correct when I said it during what was probably our worst half of football this season.

So we should sack him now then? Is that what you're saying? Yes or no, simple question.

Absolutely not.
Like I said find somewhere where I say Murphy should keep his job. You cant can you simple question yes or no.
You made a silly comment about me with no evidence, I think further down the line than instant gratification. You need to relax mate , you know it’s alright for people to have they own opinions yeah?

That's why I asked you & now we know, you think Murphy shouldn't keep his job. I'm not desperate enough for attention to go looking through someone's posts to prove a point, I'll leave that to others.

You're entitled to your opinion but mentioning me when others post is very childish. If I have an issue with anything that wez said I'll say so, it's not your job to police everything I say or think, even if you think it is. Show me where I had a meltdown, I asked a question & made a comment, kids today .

Just re read my post as yours confused me, but seems I missed a couple of letters out. I meant to say find a post where I have said Murphy shouldn’t keep his job.
I’m in full support of him in the present but looking forward he definitely won’t cut it anywhere than where he is now I. League one. That said in 5 months my opinion may have changed. He may learn a lot over the next few months.
Who knows. But it’s a very open ended question the is subjective, what is going forward? Means different things for different people.

Can’t believe we’re top. We’ve won matches where we have been second best, we have lost to some poor teams, we have got draws where we have been second best. It’s a poor league, and we haven’t set it alight,

BBM is learning on the job, same as Speed, Giggs and Bellamy with Wales, Riza with us. A mixed bag there, so not crazy about rookies but Riza scarred me. He has got us top of the league nonetheless. We gotta be happy with that of course! And I had a good disco in the canton yesterday. I just can’t quite believe it. Particularly after some of the dire 45 mins, the first half yesterday the worst of all. Questionable Naieve game management. I do like how we comeback to win after being second best this is healthy.


It’s the players that worry me . Willock shys out of tackles, Osho, Wintle, Turnbull bang average or worse, Colwill boys gone backwards last few games, Salech has not looked up for it, Ashford lightweight, I could go on. I don’t like the lack of urgency and battle I see a lot of. We are missing an experienced midfield tough guy.

Trott, Kpakio, Lawlor, really good.

We would not be top of it wasn’t for Trott

Unconvinced by BBM , but deffo not BBM out either. He can only work with what he’s got and it ain’t great, but it’s great to be top

We have rode our luck a bit in certain games but hes definitely the man to takes us forward

We've had bad luck and decisions against us in far more games.

Yes he's done far better than I expected, he's got us top of the league with a bunch of kids and a few experienced pros.

Trott makes a huge difference also, if he was here last year even with Riza we'd have stayed up.

89% says it all

100% YES

We're top, so results-wise, he's doing everything expected of him.

He also had a remit to bring more youngsters into the team and he's certainly done that, so again he's doing everything that's expected of him.

Performance-wise we've had some really good games and some bad ones, so there's lots of improvement to be made there. In fairness to BBM, he's also said that from the start so hopefully it'll come.

He also had to ship god knows how many players out and could only bring three in. One (Trott) has been outstanding, the other is a loan (Kellyman) and is showing signs that he could be a good player for us and Osho, well with the previous career he has had BBM had every right to think he'd be better than he has been, hopefully he will do.

If we're going to go up I think BBM has to improve the set up and tactics of the team, think it's fair to say regardless of the results we haven't impressed in a lot of the games. Personally I wish he'd stop tinkering with the side, I think familiarity breeds success, players form partnerships all over the pitch when they're regularly playing with the same players.

I also think Tan needs to put his hand in his pocket come January. We need reinforcements, expecially in midfield.

8 non Cardiff fans hopefully. For those 8, we’re top of the league. What more do you want? Genuinely interested.

We’re top of the league, he’s spent hardly any money. Young team, very new team. Top of the league. Let me repeat it one more time. TOP OF THE LEAGUE.

8 non Cardiff fans hopefully. For those 8, we’re top of the league. What more do you want? Genuinely interested.

We’re top of the league, he’s spent hardly any money. Young team, very new team. Top of the league. Let me repeat it one more time. TOP OF THE LEAGUE.

And

Players to have a shot at the goals instead of passing when they are in front of the goals

I think he’s a very good coach but I don’t think he is a manager I will give him until Christmas to change my mind

There are some fair comments here on both sides of arguments.

I started the thread because 12 league games is normally the first test that people put on a manager.

One thing I would add is that when BBM was appointed and again after the window closed, some were saying we'd struggle to even be top six.

Admittedly there is still about 75% of the season to go, but we are on course to be top six at the absolute minimum. So now those same people are saying we need to be top two.

We haven't played flawless in every game but I still believe we will get better as the season goes on, therefore being top (although Stevenage have a game in hand) after 12 is a brilliant place to be.

8 non Cardiff fans hopefully. For those 8, we’re top of the league. What more do you want? Genuinely interested.

We’re top of the league, he’s spent hardly any money. Young team, very new team. Top of the league. Let me repeat it one more time. TOP OF THE LEAGUE.

And

Players to have a shot at the goals instead of passing when they are in front of the goals

Then people would no doubt complain when they balloon a shot over the bar. I think Vincent Tan has rubbed off on a lot of people in here. Shots on target don’t matter, possession doesn’t matter, XG doesn’t matter. What matters is we are winning games and top of the league and we haven’t even hit our stride yet. You have to grind out results in this league. It baffles me that any Cardiff fan isn’t 100% happy with where we are after the dross of the last few seasons.

It's a Yes from Me