Time to drop Salech?

What a stupid question. We are lucky to have him the service or lack of it is the problem. Until we get wingers with pace who can actually beat the fullback I feel for him. He works 100% harder than Robinson.

I disagree not a stupid question at all, I think Worcester put forward a very good talking point. I’m more shocked how quick Worcester turning against Murphy only been 8 and one defeat in the league. Need a few more games before we start panicking.

I don't think anyone is turning on bbm in fact I think it's the first time in forever there hasn't been hysterical outbursts when weve lost a game and instead actual proper decent debate, long may it continue lol

Absolutely

Its refreshing that we question what happened. I'll be honest, I am all in on BBM, but as a bloke in his mid 50's, I haven't got a clue what he wants/expects the wide forwards to do. Some of his subs baffle me, but i have no idea what's happening in the physio's room.

I love the football debates as i learn what the hell this system is all about. Its fun to watch though

I did say it was a great point to raise.

Prehaps my tongue in cheek comment was a bit to subtle it’s clearly as day Worcester hasn’t turned against Murphy. Just he has been his biggest cheerleader since he arrived and couple of threads now questionings his selections. Everyone so serious on here I forget myself.

What a stupid question. We are lucky to have him the service or lack of it is the problem. Until we get wingers with pace who can actually beat the fullback I feel for him. He works 100% harder than Robinson.

I disagree not a stupid question at all, I think Worcester put forward a very good talking point. I’m more shocked how quick Worcester turning against Murphy only been 8 and one defeat in the league. Need a few more games before we start panicking.

I'm not turning on the manager at all, just raising this question about Robinson/Salech.

As for people saying we don't put in enough crosses, I don't know why people expect us to put in loads of crosses. That's not our style of play, especially at home.

That much has been obvious since BBM took over.

Well ned this thread is about dropping Salech so if we are not using his height and strength inside penalty area why is he on pitch? If need a hold up midfielder sure we have someone to play in Salechs position 40yrds from goal!
Salech is suppose to be our goal scorer as he's shown he scores from 6yrds from crosses.. crosses that's been lacking all season ... we saw Bradford attack wide no stopping everytime to slow game
Like we do it was who's in middle to cross to and 99% of time it's crossed causing us problems... no its not our style play so what is point of Salech being on pitch if our style is not suited to him which it clearly isn't... goals win matches not passing accuracy or possession style of play

It will be interesting if we ever get the position of a fully fit Issac Davies. Whether BBM goes for pace and mobility or raw power?

Absolutely not. Just get our players to cross the ball rather than faff around with it outside the area.

My thoughts exactly. Plays so well with his back to goal; often with no city player near him.

Totally agree if they stop tippy tappy,back passing and just cross the ball,don’t they do any training on how to cross the ball or shoot at goal

I think that’s harsh to drop salech we are not giving him the service or even getting crosses into the box for him the times we tried to pass our way into box and it broke down was frustrating me he’s a good player and he isn’t getting protected by refs but what strikers do but he still holds is Owen against defenders he will get goals for us providing we get the ball to him

I don't think dropping him helps the cause as he tends to pull 2 or sometimes 3 opposition players with him leaving space for others. He hit the woodwork yesterday & has done in other games. I would like to see him & CR together as an experiment with Salech knocking the ball down for CR who would then be facing the correct way and as others have said get the ball in earlier. He's definitely getting frustrated with the lack of protection from refs but it's div 3 and he's going to get dragged & pulled all over the place and needs to stay on his feet a little more.

This is sort of related but if we have Salech in the middle of the box at corners/free kicks why on earth are we always sending the ball to the back post? There's never anyone there to knock it back, so why?

I don't think dropping him helps the cause as he tends to pull 2 or sometimes 3 opposition players with him leaving space for others. He hit the woodwork yesterday & has done in other games. I would like to see him & CR together as an experiment with Salech knocking the ball down for CR who would then be facing the correct way and as others have said get the ball in earlier. He's definitely getting frustrated with the lack of protection from refs but it's div 3 and he's going to get dragged & pulled all over the place and needs to stay on his feet a little more.

This is sort of related but if we have Salech in the middle of the box at corners/free kicks why on earth are we always sending the ball to the back post? There's never anyone there to knock it back, so why?

Said his on several occasions why fo we aim for far post usually its lawler there but he's not a header of the ball yesterday corners were awful no threat whatsoever .... its all well good him occupying defenders but theres never anyone close enough to receive ball he as to fight to be able to hold on long enough to get it to a teammate. .. Robinson with him could work in a no10 role maybe.

Play both and drop Ashford

That would be my first port of call! I think Salech’s contribution is a little underestimated, as he works hard and takes a battering, as well as drawing multiple opposition players away from their goal!

Absolutely not. Just get our players to cross the ball rather than faff around with it outside the area.

He's a proper old skool centre forward.
Battles for everything and needs feeding crosses into the box instead of the ball being walked into it.
Rebounds and he'll be the fox in the box and even the odd long ball to him and he'll be on it.
City just aren't playing him into the game at best part.

It would be harsh for BBM to not play Robinson at Wigan now.

He could go 532 to fit both Robinson and Salech in, we're obviously not going to play 442 with this manager.

Otherwise I still say I would choose Robinson over Salech right now.

Was tonight a case of resting Salech and not dropping him ??? either way glad Robbo is still here ...
For me happy whoever starts from the above 2

Was tonight a case of resting Salech and not dropping him ??? either way glad Robbo is still here ...
For me happy whoever starts from the above 2

Nice problem to have TC

Start Robbo Saturday. He's on a streak. Remind Salech that goals and performances keep his spot.

Start Robbo Saturday. He's on a streak. Remind Salech that goals and performances keep his spot.

I agree Robbo's form has earned him a start but I feel salech has been playing well and not doing much wrong but we never deliver a cross for him to attack so we neutralise his strengths

He seems to be lacking in confidence as last night he had a couple of chances to get past the last defender but chose to play the ball sideways. I really hope Murphy will play him and Robbo together to see how it works.

He seems to be lacking in confidence as last night he had a couple of chances to get past the last defender but chose to play the ball sideways. I really hope Murphy will play him and Robbo together to see how it works.

I don't think it was a confidence thing last night, he was just slower than the guys he was up against, no shame in that at all.

Maybe that is true - it seemed like indecision to me...

Well I got called stupid and being OTT when I posted this after our last league game.

But it seems that the manager has thought the same as me.