O/T Migrants

We have more in common with immigrants than we do with our leaders.
Rich maintain their status by many ventures, one of them being, getting poor people to fight with one another rather than identifying who they should actually be fighting.

Its like the red ant and black ant theory.
Put 100 of each in a jar and nothing will happen, but if you shake the jar, they will fight to the death! The red will think the black are the enemy and the black will think the red are the enemy. when in truth the person who has shaken the jar is their enemy.

We have more in common with immigrants than we do with our leaders.
Rich maintain their status by many ventures, one of them being, getting poor people to fight with one another rather than identifying who they should actually be fighting.

Its like the red ant and black ant theory.
Put 100 of each in a jar and nothing will happen, but if you shake the jar, they will fight to the death! The red will think the black are the enemy and the black will think the red are the enemy. when in truth the person who has shaken the jar is their enemy.

Some truth in that, divide and rule.
Heard it described as beach balls at a pop concert, we’re all concentrating on the balls and not seeing what’s happening on the stage.

I’d take 99% of legal migrants over some of the dross we have living in this country, and over 100% of our rich overlords.

Migration helped make this country. It’s illegal immigration that needs to be clamped down on. Sadly the far left and the far right like to use migration as a reason to divide us further.

We have more in common with immigrants than we do with our leaders.
Rich maintain their status by many ventures, one of them being, getting poor people to fight with one another rather than identifying who they should actually be fighting.

Its like the red ant and black ant theory.
Put 100 of each in a jar and nothing will happen, but if you shake the jar, they will fight to the death! The red will think the black are the enemy and the black will think the red are the enemy. when in truth the person who has shaken the jar is their enemy.

Great analogy that.

It's effin behond a joke 1k arrive by border force taxi service today!!
How the hell can our services support this amount of mostly young men arriving? Just take them straight back to France what is France going to do Sink our boats.... what happened to this fantastic one in one out deal? Does it mean one out of France and one come into UK...

UK can't actually put an official number on the actual correct amount of ilegal people in the UK.
It's is estimated that anything between 120,000 to 1.3m will be undocumented migrants.
Now when you look across to Turkey, where they border countries like Syria, Afghanistan etc and their numbers are anything between 440,000 to 3,6 M undocumented migrants, I'd say its alot worse for them than it is us.

We have more ilegal migrants who have been here 5/10 years or more. Meaning they were children most likely when they were bought to these shores.

UK can't actually put an official number on the actual correct amount of ilegal people in the UK.
It's is estimated that anything between 120,000 to 1.3m will be undocumented migrants.
Now when you look across to Turkey, where they border countries like Syria, Afghanistan etc and their numbers are anything between 440,000 to 3,6 M undocumented migrants, I'd say its alot worse for them than it is us.

We have more ilegal migrants who have been here 5/10 years or more. Meaning they were children most likely when they were bought to these shores.

Think the difference is in Turkey they kept in camps near border run by agencies.... we give them a lift to uk we pay them for being here we give them accommodation ect
Plus only got to walk into Turkey... yes other countries have it worse undoubtedly but Do we have to give them legal aid to help stay in UK.... undoubtedly France is the problem for fo many coming here but we have no concertive plan to remove those that not entitled to be here ... by 2050 we'll have bigger population than rest of European countries!

UK can't actually put an official number on the actual correct amount of ilegal people in the UK.
It's is estimated that anything between 120,000 to 1.3m will be undocumented migrants.
Now when you look across to Turkey, where they border countries like Syria, Afghanistan etc and their numbers are anything between 440,000 to 3,6 M undocumented migrants, I'd say its alot worse for them than it is us.

We have more ilegal migrants who have been here 5/10 years or more. Meaning they were children most likely when they were bought to these shores.

Think the difference is in Turkey they kept in camps near border run by agencies.... we give them a lift to uk we pay them for being here we give them accommodation ect
Plus only got to walk into Turkey... yes other countries have it worse undoubtedly but Do we have to give them legal aid to help stay in UK.... undoubtedly France is the problem for fo many coming here but we have no concertive plan to remove those that not entitled to be here ... by 2050 we'll have bigger population than rest of European countries!

So rather than focus on the individuals in boats surely the apathy should be directed to the men and women in suits creating this issue?

To Quote Akala "fight with a guy on a Friday night, dont know what for? But won't fight with a guy, suit and a tie, who sends your kids to die in a war! They dont send the kids of the rich or politicians! they send your kids, the poor British!"


Identify the real enemy rather than focus on the target the real enemy puts in front of you.

UK can't actually put an official number on the actual correct amount of ilegal people in the UK.
It's is estimated that anything between 120,000 to 1.3m will be undocumented migrants.
Now when you look across to Turkey, where they border countries like Syria, Afghanistan etc and their numbers are anything between 440,000 to 3,6 M undocumented migrants, I'd say its alot worse for them than it is us.

We have more ilegal migrants who have been here 5/10 years or more. Meaning they were children most likely when they were bought to these shores.

Think the difference is in Turkey they kept in camps near border run by agencies.... we give them a lift to uk we pay them for being here we give them accommodation ect
Plus only got to walk into Turkey... yes other countries have it worse undoubtedly but Do we have to give them legal aid to help stay in UK.... undoubtedly France is the problem for fo many coming here but we have no concertive plan to remove those that not entitled to be here ... by 2050 we'll have bigger population than rest of European countries!

So rather than focus on the individuals in boats surely the apathy should be directed to the men and women in suits creating this issue?

To Quote Akala "fight with a guy on a Friday night, dont know what for? But won't fight with a guy, suit and a tie, who sends your kids to die in a war! They dont send the kids of the rich or politicians! they send your kids, the poor British!"


Identify the real enemy rather than focus on the target the real enemy puts in front of you.

Of course it's fault of politicians for not having a workable policy to stop traffickers and the boats.....also not making a safe orderly way for legal asylum seekers... but we are not talking of asylum seekers we are talking male 20yr+ economic migrants and criminals with very small amount of genuine asylum seekers trying to get into uk via channel... the answer? Get French to make a proper effort to stop boats before leave France.....one solution buy ribs with fast engine (we give them £100m to do nothing) intercept boats before they load passengers puncture them problem solved do that enough times traffickers will need to find alternative routes but at least can't load a thousand illegal migrants... ..

Keir Starmer mentions about going after the organised criminal gangs involved with the smuggling.

I'm guessing we will not know how far this has progressed until arrest are made but would not a decline in beech arrivals bean indication they are being arrested?

Keir Starmer mentions about going after the organised criminal gangs involved with the smuggling.

I'm guessing we will not know how far this has progressed until arrest are made but would not a decline in beech arrivals bean indication they are being arrested?

Depends on how many of these gangs there are? Padt experience said one goes another takes over plus got to negotiate with foreign gvmnts as gangs not in UK generally! Still think France is the answer but appears no matter how much £££££s or manpower we give yhem nothing changes still have them waving migrants off from beach? Why can't they stop boat leaving a river to go yo a beach? Surely it's not hard to station a fast boat to stop what are very slow dinghies used by traffickers .... more you stop them leaving France less likely people will try ? at moment wheres the disentive to stay away none French do minimal and border force give them lift rest way why not simply take them back to France? No France glad to get rid of them less work for gvmnt to sort out

Keir Starmer mentions about going after the organised criminal gangs involved with the smuggling.

I'm guessing we will not know how far this has progressed until arrest are made but would not a decline in beech arrivals bean indication they are being arrested?

Depends on how many of these gangs there are? Padt experience said one goes another takes over plus got to negotiate with foreign gvmnts as gangs not in UK generally! Still think France is the answer but appears no matter how much £££££s or manpower we give yhem nothing changes still have them waving migrants off from beach? Why can't they stop boat leaving a river to go yo a beach? Surely it's not hard to station a fast boat to stop what are very slow dinghies used by traffickers .... more you stop them leaving France less likely people will try ? at moment wheres the disentive to stay away none French do minimal and border force give them lift rest way why not simply take them back to France? No France glad to get rid of them less work for gvmnt to sort out

About right.

Once on our beaches we have a legal right to look after them through the EHCR. Hence why Reform want us to leave it.

As for the gang you are right. One gang gets taken down only to be replaced by another. Much to my surprise though are most of these gangs are from Syria area and they make their way into the EU by Turkey. There is very little preventative action to stop them.

Keir Starmer mentions about going after the organised criminal gangs involved with the smuggling.

I'm guessing we will not know how far this has progressed until arrest are made but would not a decline in beech arrivals bean indication they are being arrested?

Depends on how many of these gangs there are? Padt experience said one goes another takes over plus got to negotiate with foreign gvmnts as gangs not in UK generally! Still think France is the answer but appears no matter how much £££££s or manpower we give yhem nothing changes still have them waving migrants off from beach? Why can't they stop boat leaving a river to go yo a beach? Surely it's not hard to station a fast boat to stop what are very slow dinghies used by traffickers .... more you stop them leaving France less likely people will try ? at moment wheres the disentive to stay away none French do minimal and border force give them lift rest way why not simply take them back to France? No France glad to get rid of them less work for gvmnt to sort out

About right.

Once on our beaches we have a legal right to look after them through the EHCR. Hence why Reform want us to leave it.

As for the gang you are right. One gang gets taken down only to be replaced by another. Much to my surprise though are most of these gangs are from Syria area and they make their way into the EU by Turkey. There is very little preventative action to stop them.

Thing us theynever reach our beaches we give them a lift from mid channel! They actually know that they need to diall 999 as soon as in range of uk airwaves so we go pick them up ? We've given France around 200m pat couple years plus manpower to stop them all they do is stop odd ones that makes them look good but in reality they do nothing to help keep them in France ...... nothing in international law in stopping UK taking them back to France if we can't France can send a boat out to take them back.... do this won't take long for traffickers to lose buisness as migrants know its waste time paying to go nowhere.
But it's obvious that France doesn't want migrants in their country stuck in calais ..

Keir Starmer mentions about going after the organised criminal gangs involved with the smuggling.

I'm guessing we will not know how far this has progressed until arrest are made but would not a decline in beech arrivals bean indication they are being arrested?

Depends on how many of these gangs there are? Padt experience said one goes another takes over plus got to negotiate with foreign gvmnts as gangs not in UK generally! Still think France is the answer but appears no matter how much £££££s or manpower we give yhem nothing changes still have them waving migrants off from beach? Why can't they stop boat leaving a river to go yo a beach? Surely it's not hard to station a fast boat to stop what are very slow dinghies used by traffickers .... more you stop them leaving France less likely people will try ? at moment wheres the disentive to stay away none French do minimal and border force give them lift rest way why not simply take them back to France? No France glad to get rid of them less work for gvmnt to sort out

About right.

Once on our beaches we have a legal right to look after them through the EHCR. Hence why Reform want us to leave it.

As for the gang you are right. One gang gets taken down only to be replaced by another. Much to my surprise though are most of these gangs are from Syria area and they make their way into the EU by Turkey. There is very little preventative action to stop them.

Thing us theynever reach our beaches we give them a lift from mid channel! They actually know that they need to diall 999 as soon as in range of uk airwaves so we go pick them up ? We've given France around 200m pat couple years plus manpower to stop them all they do is stop odd ones that makes them look good but in reality they do nothing to help keep them in France ...... nothing in international law in stopping UK taking them back to France if we can't France can send a boat out to take them back.... do this won't take long for traffickers to lose buisness as migrants know its waste time paying to go nowhere.
But it's obvious that France doesn't want migrants in their country stuck in calais ..

2023 39k total migrants ...2024 took until 30th Oct to hit 30k... 2025 7th Sept 30k migrants what as £100m+ given to France past 2yrs achieve? Opening army camps will do sfa as be full in weeks if migrants lawyers let it happen.

Keir Starmer mentions about going after the organised criminal gangs involved with the smuggling.

I'm guessing we will not know how far this has progressed until arrest are made but would not a decline in beech arrivals bean indication they are being arrested?

"Smash the gangs" was a PR exercise it's not in Frances interest to stop any boats, it just becomes their problem. Same as one in one out. We can't make the French do anything about this

Keir Starmer mentions about going after the organised criminal gangs involved with the smuggling.

I'm guessing we will not know how far this has progressed until arrest are made but would not a decline in beech arrivals bean indication they are being arrested?

"Smash the gangs" was a PR exercise it's not in Frances interest to stop any boats, it just becomes their problem. Same as one in one out. We can't make the French do anything about this

The funny thing is if the french stop migrants leaving their shores it's most like traffickers will use another country to smuggle them to like Italy ect because at moment there's no incentive for them to stop in fact going on the success of their trafficking they'll be expanding their operations across channel

Migration to UK is needed in certain sectors such as our NHS and Carer sector amongst others.
But illegal migrants should not be allowed to stay in this country.
How we return them is very debatable depending on the country of origin.

Migration to UK is needed in certain sectors such as our NHS and Carer sector amongst others.
But illegal migrants should not be allowed to stay in this country.
How we return them is very debatable depending on the country of origin.

And there lies the problem! Most if not all arrive without documentation so no idea age or country of origin..... very clever can't send someone somewhere if dont know where they're from in 1st place. It takes time and garauntee lots dissappear from where they're held never to be seen again. Theses men don't just arrive with no plan bet most have contacts in UK..as we know most are young men in their 20s ... Big question I would like answer to is how can kids travel through 3 or 4 countries and not be stopped?

Immigration, both legal and illegal, has been out of control for years.
There is a massive imbalance in the focus and coverage of those arriving by boat, which represents about 10% of net migration each year. The previous government did nothing to control the legal migration and allowed the backlog of processing both to get out of control, and the current government are being pulled from all sides trying to do bits to show some level of action.
It's a mess.

Immigration, both legal and illegal, has been out of control for years.
There is a massive imbalance in the focus and coverage of those arriving by boat, which represents about 10% of net migration each year. The previous government did nothing to control the legal migration and allowed the backlog of processing both to get out of control, and the current government are being pulled from all sides trying to do bits to show some level of action.
It's a mess.

Total mess but can't help feeling if wasnt for all the charities and their lawyers interfering at every case for deportation there wont be half as long waiting time for decision being made? Asking for asylum ect when from safe countries like Albania These people should be returned ASAP ... The idea of asylum is for people in danger of persecution not because they want to make money or join criminal gangs ... but when you got people like refugee council basically calling for open border we'll never stop the rush for a better life that is the UK.

We have more in common with immigrants than we do with our leaders.
Rich maintain their status by many ventures, one of them being, getting poor people to fight with one another rather than identifying who they should actually be fighting.

Its like the red ant and black ant theory.
Put 100 of each in a jar and nothing will happen, but if you shake the jar, they will fight to the death! The red will think the black are the enemy and the black will think the red are the enemy. when in truth the person who has shaken the jar is their enemy.

It's a nice story

But it's nonsesnse.

Fact Check
David Attenborough wrongly linked to false online claim about 'black and red ants in a jar'

The post includes an image of five red ants appearing to pull a black ant apart. A statement attributed to David Attenborough is superimposed above the image.

The text reads: “If you collect 100 black ants and 100 red ants and put them in a jar, nothing will happen. But if you shake the jar violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing each other.

"Reds will believe black is the enemy, while black will believe red is the enemy when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar. The same is true in our society. Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves: Who shook the jar?”

The text has been shared tens of thousands of times alongside a claim it came from Attenborough, for example here, here and here.

However, the claim is false, according to Attenborough's lawyer, Michael Ridley.

He told AFP in an email that Attenbourgh “categorically denies ever having made any such statement”.

Multiple experts also explained that the scenario described in the posts is inaccurate.

Entomologist from James Cook University, Associate Professor Lori Lach, told AFP that regardless of whether you shake a jar containing two species of ants, they will likely be aggressive toward each other.

“The level of aggression will vary with species (there are over 15,000 named ant species, so there would be variation), how frequent the contact is, and how long they have been separated from the rest of their colony, but it’s highly unlikely that "nothing would happen"," she explained.

“We would also expect to see aggressive behaviour with ants of the same species from two different colonies. Even though they look identical to us, the ants can "smell" outsiders,” Loch said on October 28, 2021.

Professor of Entomology from University of California Davis, Philip S. Ward, told AFP the post “sounds dubious” and said that he was not aware of experiments pitting black ants and fire ants against each other in a jar.

“If you place ants of different species in a jar, they will generally behave aggressively to individuals of the opposite species, regardless of whether the jar is shaken or not,” Ward told AFP on October 23, 2021.

“This behaviour is mediated by smell: ants of different species, and even those from different nests of the same species, present a different "bouquet" of odours, and ant workers usually behave aggressively to those who smell different,” he sai

We have more in common with immigrants than we do with our leaders.
Rich maintain their status by many ventures, one of them being, getting poor people to fight with one another rather than identifying who they should actually be fighting.

Its like the red ant and black ant theory.
Put 100 of each in a jar and nothing will happen, but if you shake the jar, they will fight to the death! The red will think the black are the enemy and the black will think the red are the enemy. when in truth the person who has shaken the jar is their enemy.

It's a nice story

But it's nonsesnse.

Fact Check
David Attenborough wrongly linked to false online claim about 'black and red ants in a jar'

The post includes an image of five red ants appearing to pull a black ant apart. A statement attributed to David Attenborough is superimposed above the image.

The text reads: “If you collect 100 black ants and 100 red ants and put them in a jar, nothing will happen. But if you shake the jar violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing each other.

"Reds will believe black is the enemy, while black will believe red is the enemy when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar. The same is true in our society. Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves: Who shook the jar?”

The text has been shared tens of thousands of times alongside a claim it came from Attenborough, for example here, here and here.

However, the claim is false, according to Attenborough's lawyer, Michael Ridley.

He told AFP in an email that Attenbourgh “categorically denies ever having made any such statement”.

Multiple experts also explained that the scenario described in the posts is inaccurate.

Entomologist from James Cook University, Associate Professor Lori Lach, told AFP that regardless of whether you shake a jar containing two species of ants, they will likely be aggressive toward each other.

“The level of aggression will vary with species (there are over 15,000 named ant species, so there would be variation), how frequent the contact is, and how long they have been separated from the rest of their colony, but it’s highly unlikely that "nothing would happen"," she explained.

“We would also expect to see aggressive behaviour with ants of the same species from two different colonies. Even though they look identical to us, the ants can "smell" outsiders,” Loch said on October 28, 2021.

Professor of Entomology from University of California Davis, Philip S. Ward, told AFP the post “sounds dubious” and said that he was not aware of experiments pitting black ants and fire ants against each other in a jar.

“If you place ants of different species in a jar, they will generally behave aggressively to individuals of the opposite species, regardless of whether the jar is shaken or not,” Ward told AFP on October 23, 2021.

“This behaviour is mediated by smell: ants of different species, and even those from different nests of the same species, present a different "bouquet" of odours, and ant workers usually behave aggressively to those who smell different,” he sai

https://today.rtl.lu/news/fact-check/a/1810849.html

We have more in common with immigrants than we do with our leaders.
Rich maintain their status by many ventures, one of them being, getting poor people to fight with one another rather than identifying who they should actually be fighting.

Its like the red ant and black ant theory.
Put 100 of each in a jar and nothing will happen, but if you shake the jar, they will fight to the death! The red will think the black are the enemy and the black will think the red are the enemy. when in truth the person who has shaken the jar is their enemy.

It's a nice story

But it's nonsesnse.

Fact Check
David Attenborough wrongly linked to false online claim about 'black and red ants in a jar'

The post includes an image of five red ants appearing to pull a black ant apart. A statement attributed to David Attenborough is superimposed above the image.

The text reads: “If you collect 100 black ants and 100 red ants and put them in a jar, nothing will happen. But if you shake the jar violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing each other.

"Reds will believe black is the enemy, while black will believe red is the enemy when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar. The same is true in our society. Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves: Who shook the jar?”

The text has been shared tens of thousands of times alongside a claim it came from Attenborough, for example here, here and here.

However, the claim is false, according to Attenborough's lawyer, Michael Ridley.

He told AFP in an email that Attenbourgh “categorically denies ever having made any such statement”.

Multiple experts also explained that the scenario described in the posts is inaccurate.

Entomologist from James Cook University, Associate Professor Lori Lach, told AFP that regardless of whether you shake a jar containing two species of ants, they will likely be aggressive toward each other.

“The level of aggression will vary with species (there are over 15,000 named ant species, so there would be variation), how frequent the contact is, and how long they have been separated from the rest of their colony, but it’s highly unlikely that "nothing would happen"," she explained.

“We would also expect to see aggressive behaviour with ants of the same species from two different colonies. Even though they look identical to us, the ants can "smell" outsiders,” Loch said on October 28, 2021.

Professor of Entomology from University of California Davis, Philip S. Ward, told AFP the post “sounds dubious” and said that he was not aware of experiments pitting black ants and fire ants against each other in a jar.

“If you place ants of different species in a jar, they will generally behave aggressively to individuals of the opposite species, regardless of whether the jar is shaken or not,” Ward told AFP on October 23, 2021.

“This behaviour is mediated by smell: ants of different species, and even those from different nests of the same species, present a different "bouquet" of odours, and ant workers usually behave aggressively to those who smell different,” he sai

Think you missed the moral of the story there bud.

We have more in common with immigrants than we do with our leaders.
Rich maintain their status by many ventures, one of them being, getting poor people to fight with one another rather than identifying who they should actually be fighting.

Its like the red ant and black ant theory.
Put 100 of each in a jar and nothing will happen, but if you shake the jar, they will fight to the death! The red will think the black are the enemy and the black will think the red are the enemy. when in truth the person who has shaken the jar is their enemy.

It's a nice story

But it's nonsesnse.

Fact Check
David Attenborough wrongly linked to false online claim about 'black and red ants in a jar'

The post includes an image of five red ants appearing to pull a black ant apart. A statement attributed to David Attenborough is superimposed above the image.

The text reads: “If you collect 100 black ants and 100 red ants and put them in a jar, nothing will happen. But if you shake the jar violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing each other.

"Reds will believe black is the enemy, while black will believe red is the enemy when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar. The same is true in our society. Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves: Who shook the jar?”

The text has been shared tens of thousands of times alongside a claim it came from Attenborough, for example here, here and here.

However, the claim is false, according to Attenborough's lawyer, Michael Ridley.

He told AFP in an email that Attenbourgh “categorically denies ever having made any such statement”.

Multiple experts also explained that the scenario described in the posts is inaccurate.

Entomologist from James Cook University, Associate Professor Lori Lach, told AFP that regardless of whether you shake a jar containing two species of ants, they will likely be aggressive toward each other.

“The level of aggression will vary with species (there are over 15,000 named ant species, so there would be variation), how frequent the contact is, and how long they have been separated from the rest of their colony, but it’s highly unlikely that "nothing would happen"," she explained.

“We would also expect to see aggressive behaviour with ants of the same species from two different colonies. Even though they look identical to us, the ants can "smell" outsiders,” Loch said on October 28, 2021.

Professor of Entomology from University of California Davis, Philip S. Ward, told AFP the post “sounds dubious” and said that he was not aware of experiments pitting black ants and fire ants against each other in a jar.

“If you place ants of different species in a jar, they will generally behave aggressively to individuals of the opposite species, regardless of whether the jar is shaken or not,” Ward told AFP on October 23, 2021.

“This behaviour is mediated by smell: ants of different species, and even those from different nests of the same species, present a different "bouquet" of odours, and ant workers usually behave aggressively to those who smell different,” he sai

Think you missed the moral of the story there bud.

No I did get it and good moral

Well reading reports as to what happens to decide when to cross channel its quite clear like the authorities look at weather forecast and when wind speed barometer and see state are at optimum they load as many dinghies with as many people as they can hence other week 1k in a day weather and sea perfect for crossing when not do good only couple dinghies try uo make crossing ? So you may wonder why don't France uk maximise their efforts same as smugglers do? Doesn't seem to be am answer to that question... latest whizz from smugglers is fone authorities with false information as to where crossings taking place and then take off elsewhere

And of course start a process of removal under 1 in 1 out and what happens? A lawyer just before it happens files an appeal so to late for gvmnt to fight it so man stays!
This will continue to happen until gvmnt grows pair balls and stop lawyers....... migrants use either human rights law if got relatives or if like today a single male from iretrea says he was traffiked through Italy and france these are the two reasons uk can't get rid of migrants neither things are true but we accept it as gospel

"MIRACLE" a migrant as been returned to France in the one in one out system! Only problem is they sent one back to us not sure how this helps migration .. seems total waste of time and money..

Lot's of today's problems are simple down to Brexit believe it or not.

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Lot's of today's problems are simple down to Brexit believe it or not.

Yes it as caused a problem regarding previous arrangements.... but France Italy and others do nothing to stop migrants getting to calais area... can't tell me all migrants that cross are smuggled through 2 or 3 countries to get to channel? Yesterday's migrant went through Italy and France could have applied asylum in France but chose not to instead waited until last minute
to shout I've been trafficked .. what about unucompanied children how the fck do they get past border controls ? Journalists have seen busses pick up migrants to take them to places why not police?.... yes Brexit put a spanner in one system but there's nothing stopping eu countries stopping migrants crossing Europe to get to calais except they dont want them in their countries ghats ghe problem.... despite us giving France hundreds of millions to combat smuggling its got worse that should tell people something.
And musnt forget the charities and the Lawers making millions out of helping the migrants all at gvmnt expense.. crazy crazy situation

Lot's of today's problems are simple down to Brexit believe it or not.

That's not actually the case.

We introduced new inadmissible rule in 2021 meaning the the Home Office can declare an asylum claim inadmissible if a person has passed through a "safe third country" on their way to the UK. Allows us to send an illegal immigrqant anywhere we have an agreement with. Obviously France is the latest but that is pretty pointless politiking.

However, absolutely nothing to stop us sending anyone arriving on our shores to any country we have an agreement with. That was the whole point of the Rwanda plan. We've just never had the political backbone to do so.

When even Macron is pointing out we are too soft and offer too much, then that says it all.