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Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:09 pm

Of course he has been backed remember the majority of players that left fans didn't want here and we had like 30 plus players we now have smaller better quality squad the wage bill was stupidly high it needed cuttng

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:09 pm

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Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:13 pm

No backing what so ever, reduced squad,low wages, players sold, we are relying on a good lower league manager :thumbright:

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:24 pm

SamCCFC1927 wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:I can’t get my head around some of the comments about replacing the 16 players who left.

We’ve brought in hungry, homegrown talent and we’re all loving watching them play.

BBM has played an absolute blinder. He knew he had to rip up our old style of play and build something completely new. And who’s best suited to that? The young players coming through... adaptable, open-minded, and eager to prove themselves. Not the senior pros who were overpaid and just going through the motions.

That’s why the turnaround has been so quick. BBM isn’t carrying the baggage of previous years, and these young lads are like sponges, desperate to learn.

I don’t think people expected 16 players out and 16 players in,but I think people just think we maybe short in areas that’s all


At left-back we’ve got Bagan and Giles. You could argue Giles is a risk, and the only other cover would be NG, Chambers, or Lawlor—all of them playing out of position.

So I get why people want another LB, but personally I’d lean on Giles as the back-up and give him a proper chance.

Curious where others think we actually need more cover, bearing in mind that any new signing would expect a real chance of playing?

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:26 pm

Nickoblue23 wrote:
SamCCFC1927 wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:I can’t get my head around some of the comments about replacing the 16 players who left.

We’ve brought in hungry, homegrown talent and we’re all loving watching them play.

BBM has played an absolute blinder. He knew he had to rip up our old style of play and build something completely new. And who’s best suited to that? The young players coming through... adaptable, open-minded, and eager to prove themselves. Not the senior pros who were overpaid and just going through the motions.

That’s why the turnaround has been so quick. BBM isn’t carrying the baggage of previous years, and these young lads are like sponges, desperate to learn.

I don’t think people expected 16 players out and 16 players in,but I think people just think we maybe short in areas that’s all


At left-back we’ve got Bagan and Giles. You could argue Giles is a risk, and the only other cover would be NG, Chambers, or Lawlor—all of them playing out of position.

So I get why people want another LB, but personally I’d lean on Giles as the back-up and give him a proper chance.

Curious where others think we actually need more cover, bearing in mind that any new signing would expect a real chance of playing?

Ye but didn’t BBM pick mafico at left back over Giles?or was he injuryed?I personally would have got rid of chambers on big money and a donkey

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:31 pm

Generally yes with 3 quality signings....with injury to Eli king and a clear left back needed I would say 7 out of 10 though

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:34 pm

Tan has come out well on top here and spent nothing

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:39 pm

SamCCFC1927 wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:
SamCCFC1927 wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:I can’t get my head around some of the comments about replacing the 16 players who left.

We’ve brought in hungry, homegrown talent and we’re all loving watching them play.

BBM has played an absolute blinder. He knew he had to rip up our old style of play and build something completely new. And who’s best suited to that? The young players coming through... adaptable, open-minded, and eager to prove themselves. Not the senior pros who were overpaid and just going through the motions.

That’s why the turnaround has been so quick. BBM isn’t carrying the baggage of previous years, and these young lads are like sponges, desperate to learn.

I don’t think people expected 16 players out and 16 players in,but I think people just think we maybe short in areas that’s all


At left-back we’ve got Bagan and Giles. You could argue Giles is a risk, and the only other cover would be NG, Chambers, or Lawlor—all of them playing out of position.

So I get why people want another LB, but personally I’d lean on Giles as the back-up and give him a proper chance.

Curious where others think we actually need more cover, bearing in mind that any new signing would expect a real chance of playing?

Ye but didn’t BBM pick mafico at left back over Giles?or was he injuryed?I personally would have got rid of chambers on big money and a donkey



He did that because Mafico impressed him there in pre-season. More recently he has used Giles in the cup.

Maybe the club did try to move Chambers on, but realistically you’d need a Championship-level side willing to match what we’re paying him.

To be fair to Chambers, he did well coming on at RB against Wimbledon, and he’s handled being dropped like a professional, especially being club captain.
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Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:41 pm

boyo1927 wrote:Generally yes with 3 quality signings....with injury to Eli king and a clear left back needed I would say 7 out of 10 though


Gutted for King but he probably doesn't make the bench with Robertson and Turnbull available

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:44 pm

Nickoblue23 wrote:
SamCCFC1927 wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:
SamCCFC1927 wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:I can’t get my head around some of the comments about replacing the 16 players who left.

We’ve brought in hungry, homegrown talent and we’re all loving watching them play.

BBM has played an absolute blinder. He knew he had to rip up our old style of play and build something completely new. And who’s best suited to that? The young players coming through... adaptable, open-minded, and eager to prove themselves. Not the senior pros who were overpaid and just going through the motions.

That’s why the turnaround has been so quick. BBM isn’t carrying the baggage of previous years, and these young lads are like sponges, desperate to learn.

I don’t think people expected 16 players out and 16 players in,but I think people just think we maybe short in areas that’s all


At left-back we’ve got Bagan and Giles. You could argue Giles is a risk, and the only other cover would be NG, Chambers, or Lawlor—all of them playing out of position.

So I get why people want another LB, but personally I’d lean on Giles as the back-up and give him a proper chance.

Curious where others think we actually need more cover, bearing in mind that any new signing would expect a real chance of playing?

Ye but didn’t BBM pick mafico at left back over Giles?or was he injuryed?I personally would have got rid of chambers on big money and a donkey



He did that because Mafico impressed him there in pre-season. Nore recently he has used Giles in the cup.

Maybe the club did try to move Chambers on, but realistically you’d need a Championship-level side willing to match what we’re paying him.

To be fair to Chambers, he did well coming on at RB against Wimbledon, and he’s handled being dropped like a professional, especially being club captain.

Might have been carrying a knock Giles then,ye but chambers struggled against port vale,Swindon he was awful and Cheltenham,think your right maybe clubs wouldn’t pay his wages,I think he’s to slow to play in the back line for me and his best position his holding midfielder and can’t see him getting in there anytime soon

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:52 pm

Ninian27 wrote:No backing what so ever, reduced squad,low wages, players sold, we are relying on a good lower league manager :thumbright:

Given all that, we are top of League One with a superior goal difference and a defence that has conceded a single goal via a penalty in the first game of the season!

The difference between the Championship and League One are substantial in both the playing and financial spheres, so despite the crap that we have had over the last few seasons in said Championship, it was not unreasonable that the budget would/should be reset downwards on relegation, was it not?

If you take Tan out of the equation (he is a whole load of negative debate on his own), I honestly think most on here would be agreeing with the above actions and citing them as ‘common sense’ following relegation

We cleared out a lot of players, who as a collective alongside two and a bit managers, let us down badly by being relegated. Furthermore, the wages a lot of those were on was excessive even for the more competitive Championship

So what would you have the club (nee Tan in reality) do? Personally, I can only see a couple of those released players who I would genuinely say deserved to be here on such wages for a League One season

So maybe the question should be, ‘do we think Vincent Tan has fallen lucky with a manager who works well with talented youngsters and will only sign players he believes will provide improvement and value for money in League One?

I would still prefer he had sold the club recently, but I am glad the team/manager are doing well so far this season and reluctantly I would say he (Tan) has struck gold on both the managerial and budgetary fronts (for now at least) and we shout be happy with that!

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:08 pm

It's great that we've kept our best players (who by league 1 standards are probably on very good wages). That in itself is a form of backing from Tan. But it's not a huge amount of backing is it. He's still done things on the cheap. Nothing has really changed there!

Felt we definitely needed a LB and maybe another big striker to complete the squad and take us through into Jan. So overall it's a decent window but not a great one in my opinion.

Fair enough BBM only wanted to bring in quality but you can't say he didnt find a quality LB or striker anywhere. He just didn't have the money available to pay for it. Fingers crossed, the injuries/suspensions will be kind to us.

Either way, the players are playing with pride and passion again so I'm more than happy. And that's solely down to BBM!

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:14 pm

No he hasn’t been backed. He came in to clean house and promote the youth, and so far he’s done a great job. The amount of players gone, and only one permanent signing, I imagine it hasn’t cost the club anything.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:41 pm

He hasn’t been backed and he deserved better.

I’m happy we didn’t lose anyone else, but if anyone is saying he’s been backed is crazy.

BBM has worked miracles and saved Tan millions already.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:12 am

15/17 moved on half the team accademy kids on low wages ,
2 million for sell on clause for mc'guiness to sheffield
350,000 for o 'dowda i would have said tan has saved money and put nothing into the summer transfer window.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:14 am

No, as expected, The Clowns are still in good form. Hats off to BBM using his influence to get 3 quality players in. The football has improved dramatically, although we are playing generally weaker teams. I hope we get promoted for the sake of the fans. TAN OUT!

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:16 am

No for the reasons above.

We might go up but will Tan back BBM then?

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:40 am

Sven wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:No backing what so ever, reduced squad,low wages, players sold, we are relying on a good lower league manager :thumbright:

Given all that, we are top of League One with a superior goal difference and a defence that has conceded a single goal via a penalty in the first game of the season!

The difference between the Championship and League One are substantial in both the playing and financial spheres, so despite the crap that we have had over the last few seasons in said Championship, it was not unreasonable that the budget would/should be reset downwards on relegation, was it not?

If you take Tan out of the equation (he is a whole load of negative debate on his own), I honestly think most on here would be agreeing with the above actions and citing them as ‘common sense’ following relegation

We cleared out a lot of players, who as a collective alongside two and a bit managers, let us down badly by being relegated. Furthermore, the wages a lot of those were on was excessive even for the more competitive Championship

So what would you have the club (nee Tan in reality) do? Personally, I can only see a couple of those released players who I would genuinely say deserved to be here on such wages for a League One season

So maybe the question should be, ‘do we think Vincent Tan has fallen lucky with a manager who works well with talented youngsters and will only sign players he believes will provide improvement and value for money in League One?

I would still prefer he had sold the club recently, but I am glad the team/manager are doing well so far this season and reluctantly I would say he (Tan) has struck gold on both the managerial and budgetary fronts (for now at least) and we shout be happy with that!

Excellent post Chris.
Even though I dislike Tan and agree that he’s made awful decisions along the way and must now sell.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:46 am

Bluebird 67 wrote:Interested to know peoples thoughts



Tan has backed him properly this time, with a strong academy, a full squad, and the budget to add the quality needed to push for promotion. Judging by the league table, it already looks like a very successful start, with the January window still there to strengthen further if needed.

Last season was a disaster in almost every way, from managerial appointments to recruitment. This year feels the complete opposite: a really successful start and plenty of reasons to be optimistic.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:53 am

llan bluebird wrote:I keep on hearing 17 players, in reality, it was two, Callum O'Dowda and Goutas (who wanted to go home)

Rambo can't complete 60 mins, Ralls was getting the same
Meite and ElGarzi :lol: :lol: :lol: gone at any level
Rinomhota could run, but basic ball control wasn't his strength

Collins,Tsounda and Simic can't be counted as there is some weird stuff there
Reindorf, Evans, Conte and Etete are not L1 or probably L2

Alves, Daland & Harvath and Mannswerk barely matched their pre signing reputations

So thats 3 in and 2 useful ones out


That's true, getting rid of all of them should be regarded a bonus, not a loss.
I would say only O'Dowda is a loss.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:58 am

Nickoblue23 wrote:
SamCCFC1927 wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:
SamCCFC1927 wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:I can’t get my head around some of the comments about replacing the 16 players who left.

We’ve brought in hungry, homegrown talent and we’re all loving watching them play.

BBM has played an absolute blinder. He knew he had to rip up our old style of play and build something completely new. And who’s best suited to that? The young players coming through... adaptable, open-minded, and eager to prove themselves. Not the senior pros who were overpaid and just going through the motions.

That’s why the turnaround has been so quick. BBM isn’t carrying the baggage of previous years, and these young lads are like sponges, desperate to learn.

I don’t think people expected 16 players out and 16 players in,but I think people just think we maybe short in areas that’s all


At left-back we’ve got Bagan and Giles. You could argue Giles is a risk, and the only other cover would be NG, Chambers, or Lawlor—all of them playing out of position.

So I get why people want another LB, but personally I’d lean on Giles as the back-up and give him a proper chance.

Curious where others think we actually need more cover, bearing in mind that any new signing would expect a real chance of playing?

Ye but didn’t BBM pick mafico at left back over Giles?or was he injuryed?I personally would have got rid of chambers on big money and a donkey



He did that because Mafico impressed him there in pre-season. More recently he has used Giles in the cup.

Maybe the club did try to move Chambers on, but realistically you’d need a Championship-level side willing to match what we’re paying him.

To be fair to Chambers, he did well coming on at RB against Wimbledon, and he’s handled being dropped like a professional, especially being club captain.


Chambers has shown a great attitude, and Barry-Murphy even said he was very close to starting the last game. He’s still a good player, that’s why he wasn’t moved on with the weaker ones who dragged us down last season.

Barry-Murphy now has the squad he wants to go and win promotion.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:15 am

I'm happy with the transfer window
Best we have had in a long time

we've saved a lot of money on wages and we haven't spent a lot

yet this squad looks more than capable of competing at the top of league one

I'm not too bothered that we didn't sign a left back
I always feel if we just need cover then loaning another clubs youngster is not worth the money when we could just use one of our own

I feel Giles is decent enough cover and I trust bbm to get the best out of him

I don't see us signing a LB better than Bagan anyway

and I'm struggling to see how Osho gets in right now as it is

how do you drop a player from the best back 5 in the league?

I think tans got lucky here because I don't think he's backed bbm financially but he's backed him by letting him take most of the control over ins and outs which is why the manager now has the players he wants
which is probably the most important part since a lot of previous manager have had to work with whatever the transfer committee have given them

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:17 am

We have had an Accademy for 25 plus years and the kids are doing it in league 1 on peanut wages,but I do not care about the peanut wages, they are doing well at this level. Tan has finally struck lucky after manager after manager after manager. He’s trying to do it on a low budget, hopefully it pays off.
Backing Murphy,a big no from me.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:21 am

Sven wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:No backing what so ever, reduced squad,low wages, players sold, we are relying on a good lower league manager :thumbright:

Given all that, we are top of League One with a superior goal difference and a defence that has conceded a single goal via a penalty in the first game of the season!

The difference between the Championship and League One are substantial in both the playing and financial spheres, so despite the crap that we have had over the last few seasons in said Championship, it was not unreasonable that the budget would/should be reset downwards on relegation, was it not?

If you take Tan out of the equation (he is a whole load of negative debate on his own), I honestly think most on here would be agreeing with the above actions and citing them as ‘common sense’ following relegation

We cleared out a lot of players, who as a collective alongside two and a bit managers, let us down badly by being relegated. Furthermore, the wages a lot of those were on was excessive even for the more competitive Championship

So what would you have the club (nee Tan in reality) do? Personally, I can only see a couple of those released players who I would genuinely say deserved to be here on such wages for a League One season

So maybe the question should be, ‘do we think Vincent Tan has fallen lucky with a manager who works well with talented youngsters and will only sign players he believes will provide improvement and value for money in League One?

I would still prefer he had sold the club recently, but I am glad the team/manager are doing well so far this season and reluctantly I would say he (Tan) has struck gold on both the managerial and budgetary fronts (for now at least) and we shout be happy with that!


Mate,I am happy most of those over paid players are gone,mainly signed by the current board. BBM might need string backing in January, let’s hope he will get it. Happy with our manager as to Tan he can do one.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:22 am

Ninian27 wrote:
Sven wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:No backing what so ever, reduced squad,low wages, players sold, we are relying on a good lower league manager :thumbright:

Given all that, we are top of League One with a superior goal difference and a defence that has conceded a single goal via a penalty in the first game of the season!

The difference between the Championship and League One are substantial in both the playing and financial spheres, so despite the crap that we have had over the last few seasons in said Championship, it was not unreasonable that the budget would/should be reset downwards on relegation, was it not?

If you take Tan out of the equation (he is a whole load of negative debate on his own), I honestly think most on here would be agreeing with the above actions and citing them as ‘common sense’ following relegation

We cleared out a lot of players, who as a collective alongside two and a bit managers, let us down badly by being relegated. Furthermore, the wages a lot of those were on was excessive even for the more competitive Championship

So what would you have the club (nee Tan in reality) do? Personally, I can only see a couple of those released players who I would genuinely say deserved to be here on such wages for a League One season

So maybe the question should be, ‘do we think Vincent Tan has fallen lucky with a manager who works well with talented youngsters and will only sign players he believes will provide improvement and value for money in League One?

I would still prefer he had sold the club recently, but I am glad the team/manager are doing well so far this season and reluctantly I would say he (Tan) has struck gold on both the managerial and budgetary fronts (for now at least) and we shout be happy with that!


Mate,I am happy most of those over paid players are gone,mainly signed by the current board. BBM might need string backing in January, let’s hope he will get it. Happy with our manager as to Tan he can do one.

Summed up perfectly mate :thumbup:

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:23 am

We don't need to spend in this division. We already have one of the strongest squads in the division and have added 3 players who make that squad even stronger.

Seems like some want to be able to bash Tan for not 'backing' BBM, when the need to spend isn't there. No point spending for the sake of spending - that went well under Warnock, didn't it...

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:25 am

barnet blue wrote:We have had an Accademy for 25 plus years and the kids are doing it in league 1 on peanut wages,but I do not care about the peanut wages, they are doing well at this level. Tan has finally struck lucky after manager after manager after manager. He’s trying to do it on a low budget, hopefully it pays off.
Backing Murphy,a big no from me.



He's backed the academy, which produces future Welsh stars, who are all learning their trade at the top of the league.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:27 am

NyeBluebird wrote:We don't need to spend in this division. We already have one of the strongest squads in the division and have added 3 players who make that squad even stronger.

Seems like some want to be able to bash Tan for not 'backing' BBM, when the need to spend isn't there. No point spending for the sake of spending - that went well under Warnock, didn't it...


Exactly, wasting a load of money on Miete's and Kangas got nowhere, just further in debt and down a league.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:31 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:No, our manager hasn't been backed and a golden opportunity at promotion has been thrown away by our horrendous owner and idiotic hierarchy.

We are a minimum of 3 players too short. We have a very small squad lacking depth and it's just a matter of time until a few more injuries catch up with us and we plummet down the table.


Golden opportunity thrown away? We are top of the league and unbeaten, and we have depth in most areas. I am happy that BBM didn't bring players for the sake of it. This approach will be good for the longevity of the club.

Re: So do we think Tan backed BBM ?

Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:41 am

Don't think anyone can moan about that transfer window.

Three signings of real quality. I would've liked left back cover for Bagan so we have two players for every position but I'm sure BBM will have Giles ready for the role if required.

As for Tan the answer is no. He is very lucky BBM knows what he is doing and can source a player for next to nothing.

I have no doubt Tan will take the credit for this season when we get promoted but this is all down to BBM.