“ LACK OF ZERO TRANSFERS APPARENTLY IS DUE TO “

Could it simply be to do with the takeover ?

If the takeover is as close as it is believed to be, could that be why others haven’t left yet, Robertson for example, allegedly there have been offers from a championship club with up to 9 others interested - but if we were to sell him now or in the last couple of weeks, then that would have had an effect on any purchase price as the asset value would have gone down.

Equally until the new owners put money in then Tan isnt going to pay for any new signing if a deal is about to be done.

I know we sold O’Dowda but that may have well been before the numbers to buy the club were agreed.

If a sale of the club is imminent then that explains the lack of transfers both ways, and therefore if the sale happens in the next few days or week then I’m guessing that we will see players both coming and going very very quickly as it would not surprise me if deals have already been done and NDA’s signed.

As for loans, the same principal above applies, but also most loans from Premiership clubs dont happen until they submit the squad sheets to the FA anyway.

Could it simply be to do with the takeover ?

If the takeover is as close as it is believed to be, could that be why others haven’t left yet, Robertson for example, allegedly there have been offers from a championship club with up to 9 others interested - but if we were to sell him now or in the last couple of weeks, then that would have had an effect on any purchase price as the asset value would have gone down.

Equally until the new owners put money in then Tan isnt going to pay for any new signing if a deal is about to be done.

I know we sold O’Dowda but that may have well been before the numbers to buy the club were agreed.

If a sale of the club is imminent then that explains the lack of transfers both ways, and therefore if the sale happens in the next few days or week then I’m guessing that we will see players both coming and going very very quickly as it would not surprise me if deals have already been done and NDA’s signed.

As for loans, the same principal above applies, but also most loans from Premiership clubs dont happen until they submit the squad sheets to the FA anyway.

Your basically correct on all accounts! Tan wont buy as selling not bright idead selling assets before sale completed .... otto can't do anything until papers sighned he can then give club a loan before completion so effectively to himself that will effectively allow to get players in .. loans require money in some form but not sure if cist is that much but could be awaiting sale as well..... I would say the sale is effecting the purchase of players in some way.

We know this is all a front as we put 2 bids in on loan for 2 Man City players and they have stalled the deal down to the rumours circulating over Tan selling and getting more of a fee and wage for the 2 players if a deal does get between the new owners and Tan.. one was meant to be near enough done when the team was Spain and that’s a fact.

So Dando your saying they’ve not gone through with these 2 players because of rumours of a Sale?

Annis it’s common knowledge hence why the deals haven’t gone through, clubs are holding off behind the scenes because they get more money for the player and themselves with a loan fee and wage.

We know this is all a front as we put 2 bids in on loan for 2 Man City players and they have stalled the deal down to the rumours circulating over Tan selling and getting more of a fee and wage for the 2 players if a deal does get between the new owners and Tan.. one was meant to be near enough done when the team was Spain and that’s a fact.

So Dando your saying they’ve not gone through with these 2 players because of rumours of a Sale?

Annis it’s common knowledge hence why the deals haven’t gone through, clubs are holding off behind the scenes because they get more money for the player and themselves with a loan fee and wage.

Guss it's possible as it's done if a club sells a player for big bucks!
Who knows as nothing emanating from club.

The Lack Of Zero Transfers should have nothing to do with the alleged Sale of the Club .
Any business which is subject to a take over carries on day to day - "Business As Usual"

People don’t realise we can only have a squad of 26 players so only got room for 3 players so I don’t know why people are so concerned.

People don’t realise we can only have a squad of 26 players so only got room for 3 players so I don’t know why people are so concerned.

Dont The under 21 players effect the amount of players have in squad ?

People don’t realise we can only have a squad of 26 players so only got room for 3 players so I don’t know why people are so concerned.

League 1 rules are 22 players excluding goalkeepers and u21,s i believe so we have 18 at the moment excluding the keepers and u21,s so we do have a little wiggle room to bring players in

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Can any one remember a season where we didn’t sign any one by our first pre season game ? Let alone the first game of the season. Can only be down to one thing surely ?

Can any one remember a season where we didn’t sign any one by our first pre season game ? Let alone the first game of the season. Can only be down to one thing surely ?

CNo i cannot
Can you imagine what would happen if tan pulled out and carried on the stadium for our 1st game would be in uproar the game would be irelevant fans would be fumbling.

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The lack of Signings is nothing to do with any Sale of the Club says Glen Williams:

“It’s due to Brian Barry Murphy Choosing to bring in Quality rather than Quantity.”

Mmm.......

Obviously waiting for Ronaldo or Messi to become available before adding to the squad.

I'm starting to get a little concerned that the manager feels that a mixture of youngsters and incompetents and bottlers from last season (with one or two exceptions) are going to be good enough to challenge in League 1.

All well and good saying "quality rather than quantity" but at the moment it's "no quality and no quantity".

Has our new manager not found one area of the team that needs improving from last season's utter shitshow? Is he really happy with a squad which was by far and away the worst in last season's Championship and which has only lost players with no replacements.

For me the lack of recruitment is down to one thing - it's not about this "quality over quantity" bollocks or anything to do with an ongoing sale of the club.

It's because BBM has been told that there will be no funds available to buy or loan players or to pay wages to free agents. Tan will simply not authorise ANY spending on the squad and BBM has been told to deal with what he has on the further understanding that more players may be sold before the close of the window.

I think he's working with his hands tied but I also think he would have been well aware of this when he took the job.

I will repeat what I have said before:


This squad is strong enough for at least top six in League On


The best loans always happen at the end of the window, remember PL squads aren't sorted yet so won't loan out the players they're undecided on where they'll go yet.

Their season doesn't start until two weeks after our's.

I will repeat what I have said before:


This squad is strong enough for at least top six in League One

Yes we know that but you have been setting yourself up for a fall telling people that we will be getting players in before the season starts and if that was pure guess work then say so from the start rather than been in the know.

Not having a go at you by the way just saying it as other fans see it I hope we get players in, but there is the difference telling and hoping are 2 very different words

I agree that this squad is good enough for top six but we really need a few reinforcements in to help when injuries and suspensions kick in

So as long as they are in by the time the window shuts I'm quite relaxed about it all

I will repeat what I have said before:


This squad is strong enough for at least top six in League One

Yes we know that but you have been setting yourself up for a fall telling people that we will be getting players in before the season starts and if that was pure guess work then say so from the start rather than been in the know.

Not having a go at you by the way just saying it as other fans see it I hope we get players in, but there is the difference telling and hoping are 2 very different words

To be clear, I wasn't saying I knew players were coming in because I didn't. I said I'd expect them to come in soon due to the balance of probability.

I do think a few late loans will build numbers to what is already a top six squad.

I will repeat what I have said before:


This squad is strong enough for at least top six in League On


The best loans always happen at the end of the window, remember PL squads aren't sorted yet so won't loan out the players they're undecided on where they'll go yet.

Their season doesn't start until two weeks after our's.

Fully respect your opinion but for me I am far from certain that the squad is strong enough for top 6.

This is a squad that was by some distance the worst in the Championship with a defence that leaked goals like a sieve. To date that defence has not been improved in any way.

On paper this squad should have been able to survive easily last year but we all know what happened. Due to a combination of inexperience, shit management by Bulut and Riza and a complete lack of commitment and fight by a number of experienced so called "professionals" we went down with barely a whimper.

Hopefully the new manager can get a tune out of what were a severely underperforming squad of players who for most of the season looked as if they couldn't be arsed and some of whom may be playing for less wages if there were relegation clauses in their contracts.

BBM may be able to handle the youngsters but his previous dealings when managing experienced professionals who have been underperforming for many seasons is where he may stand or fall this season.

I think you have far more faith in our current players than I do.

I will repeat what I have said before:


This squad is strong enough for at least top six in League On


The best loans always happen at the end of the window, remember PL squads aren't sorted yet so won't loan out the players they're undecided on where they'll go yet.

Their season doesn't start until two weeks after our's.

Fully respect your opinion but for me I am far from certain that the squad is strong enough for top 6.

This is a squad that was by some distance the worst in the Championship with a defence that leaked goals like a sieve. To date that defence has not been improved in any way.

On paper this squad should have been able to survive easily last year but we all know what happened. Due to a combination of inexperience, shit management by Bulut and Riza and a complete lack of commitment and fight by a number of experienced so called "professionals" we went down with barely a whimper.

Hopefully the new manager can get a tune out of what were a severely underperforming squad of players who for most of the season looked as if they couldn't be arsed and some of whom may be playing for less wages if there were relegation clauses in their contracts.

BBM may be able to handle the youngsters but his previous dealings when managing experienced professionals who have been underperforming for many seasons is where he may stand or fall this season.

I think you have far more faith in our current players than I do.

The point I would make is the difference between the bottom of the Championship and most of League One is huge.

Obviously there's a few of the best teams who can cope with Championship teams but the rest of them, the standard is very low.

Mistakes you make that will be punished by Championship teams will not be punished by League One teams.

I don't believe we had the worst squad in the Championship. We were the worst team, because the table doesn't lie. But a lot of that is down to mismanagement and extremely low fitness levels. The general consensus on here and elsewhere is that if Riza had gone ten games earlier, we'd probably have stayed up - we'll never know for sure on that one.

The fitness levels we have at the moment is several levels ahead of where they were last summer.

We also have a modern manager with modern ideas. I think that's we needed because these players can play in that way and will succeed in that way.

I'm not saying we'll blitz the league like Birmingham, that's not what I believe.

But, and I may be wrong as I have been many times before, I honestly don't see six teams finishing above us.

The order of the top six I don't know, but I strongly believe we'll be in there.

I will repeat what I have said before:


This squad is strong enough for at least top six in League On


The best loans always happen at the end of the window, remember PL squads aren't sorted yet so won't loan out the players they're undecided on where they'll go yet.

Their season doesn't start until two weeks after our's.

Fully respect your opinion but for me I am far from certain that the squad is strong enough for top 6.

This is a squad that was by some distance the worst in the Championship with a defence that leaked goals like a sieve. To date that defence has not been improved in any way.

On paper this squad should have been able to survive easily last year but we all know what happened. Due to a combination of inexperience, shit management by Bulut and Riza and a complete lack of commitment and fight by a number of experienced so called "professionals" we went down with barely a whimper.

Hopefully the new manager can get a tune out of what were a severely underperforming squad of players who for most of the season looked as if they couldn't be arsed and some of whom may be playing for less wages if there were relegation clauses in their contracts.

BBM may be able to handle the youngsters but his previous dealings when managing experienced professionals who have been underperforming for many seasons is where he may stand or fall this season.

I think you have far more faith in our current players than I do.

The point I would make is the difference between the bottom of the Championship and most of League One is huge.

Obviously there's a few of the best teams who can cope with Championship teams but the rest of them, the standard is very low.

Mistakes you make that will be punished by Championship teams will not be punished by League One teams.

I don't believe we had the worst squad in the Championship. We were the worst team, because the table doesn't lie. But a lot of that is down to mismanagement and extremely low fitness levels. The general consensus on here and elsewhere is that if Riza had gone ten games earlier, we'd probably have stayed up - we'll never know for sure on that one.

The fitness levels we have at the moment is several levels ahead of where they were last summer.

We also have a modern manager with modern ideas. I think that's we needed because these players can play in that way and will succeed in that way.

I'm not saying we'll blitz the league like Birmingham, that's not what I believe.

But, and I may be wrong as I have been many times before, I honestly don't see six teams finishing above us.

The order of the top six I don't know, but I strongly believe we'll be in there.

I agree that the quality is there in the squad as it was last season in the Championship.

But if that quality is not backed up with heart, commitment, fight and desire then that quality will not be enough.

Very few of our players have experienced League 1 football - it'll be a shock for many of them. Many of those "lower standard" teams you mention will see us as a "scalp" and will be looking to raise their game accordingly.

Our manager has indeed experience of this level which will hopefully be put to good use although his record in League 1 does leave a bit to be desired.