“ Salech 100% Will be “

Ffs so he’s 100% going , sick and tired of this club nothing to look forward to just misery.

That’s an over reaction to a rumour about a possibility of him going.

Exactly.

I think he'll either stay or go for silly money. I don't see anyone offering silly money for a player who's only had half a season in the EFL.

So I believe he'll stay.

But I said the other week that there are certain people who always reply with things like that because their hatred of Tan has meant they've abandoned all possibility of things going well - they'll do that with signings, they did it with the manager (without actually looking at the details) and they'll continue with that.

Ironically they also called Salech "another donkey from abroad then, no different to Kanga" when he signed in January.

I'm not singling anyone out, this is about a few people.

I want Tan out as much as the next person but I don't think replying with constant negativity helps anyone.

It’s not being negative for the sake of. Historically we have always been a selling club, and sold on the cheap at that. Other clubs seem to hold out and get maximum value but we never do. The only good fee I can think of was for Zohore. I think we rejected money for Keiffer once? But 7m for an international 20goal striker in the championship was taking the piss to be fair.

Ffs so he’s 100% going , sick and tired of this club nothing to look forward to just misery.

That’s an over reaction to a rumour about a possibility of him going.

Exactly.

I think he'll either stay or go for silly money. I don't see anyone offering silly money for a player who's only had half a season in the EFL.

So I believe he'll stay.

But I said the other week that there are certain people who always reply with things like that because their hatred of Tan has meant they've abandoned all possibility of things going well - they'll do that with signings, they did it with the manager (without actually looking at the details) and they'll continue with that.

Ironically they also called Salech "another donkey from abroad then, no different to Kanga" when he signed in January.

I'm not singling anyone out, this is about a few people.

I want Tan out as much as the next person but I don't think replying with constant negativity helps anyone.

It’s not being negative for the sake of. Historically we have always been a selling club, and sold on the cheap at that. Other clubs seem to hold out and get maximum value but we never do. The only good fee I can think of was for Zohore. I think we rejected money for Keiffer once? But 7m for an international 20goal striker in the championship was taking the piss to be fair.

Are you saying we hold on to players too long beyond their peak sales timeframe? So exactly the opposite of the gloom mongers?

Since 2010, some of the larger transfers

Sean Morison £3 million to free at the end of his career
Jordon mutch £1 million sold for £6 million
Bruno Ecuele Manga (Lorient): ~£5m (2014) lost £2 mill but stayed 5 seasons.
Gary Medel (Sevilla): ~£11m - lost a million
Steven Caulker (Tottenham): ~£8m - made a small profit
Andreas Cornelius (FC Copenhagen): ~£7.5m - shocker
Emiliano Sala (Nantes): £18m (club record, January 2019)
Josh Murphy (Norwich): ~£11m Warnock shocker
Bobby Reid (Bristol City): ~£10m - broke even
Greg Cunningham (Preston): ~£4m - Warnock again
Alex Smithies (QPR): ~£3.5m - Warnock again
Kieffer Moore (Wigan Athletic, 2020): ~£3.5m - small profit (promotion add on)
Robert Glatzel (Heidenheim, 2019): ~£5.5m huge loss Warnock
Aden Flint (Bristol City, 2019): ~£4m Warnock
Leandro Bacuna (Reading, 2019): ~£3m - Warnock
Mark McGuinness (Arsenal, 2021): ~Profit

others at a profit
Zohore, Etheridge, Marshall,

So its nowhere near that bad if we remove the messiah.

Ffs so he’s 100% going , sick and tired of this club nothing to look forward to just misery.

That’s an over reaction to a rumour about a possibility of him going.

Exactly.

I think he'll either stay or go for silly money. I don't see anyone offering silly money for a player who's only had half a season in the EFL.

So I believe he'll stay.

But I said the other week that there are certain people who always reply with things like that because their hatred of Tan has meant they've abandoned all possibility of things going well - they'll do that with signings, they did it with the manager (without actually looking at the details) and they'll continue with that.

Ironically they also called Salech "another donkey from abroad then, no different to Kanga" when he signed in January.

I'm not singling anyone out, this is about a few people.

I want Tan out as much as the next person but I don't think replying with constant negativity helps anyone.

It’s not being negative for the sake of. Historically we have always been a selling club, and sold on the cheap at that. Other clubs seem to hold out and get maximum value but we never do. The only good fee I can think of was for Zohore. I think we rejected money for Keiffer once? But 7m for an international 20goal striker in the championship was taking the piss to be fair.

Are you saying we hold on to players too long beyond their peak sales timeframe? So exactly the opposite of the gloom mongers?

Since 2010, some of the larger transfers

Sean Morison £3 million to free at the end of his career
Jordon mutch £1 million sold for £6 million
Bruno Ecuele Manga (Lorient): ~£5m (2014) lost £2 mill but stayed 5 seasons.
Gary Medel (Sevilla): ~£11m - lost a million
Steven Caulker (Tottenham): ~£8m - made a small profit
Andreas Cornelius (FC Copenhagen): ~£7.5m - shocker
Emiliano Sala (Nantes): £18m (club record, January 2019)
Josh Murphy (Norwich): ~£11m Warnock shocker
Bobby Reid (Bristol City): ~£10m - broke even
Greg Cunningham (Preston): ~£4m - Warnock again
Alex Smithies (QPR): ~£3.5m - Warnock again
Kieffer Moore (Wigan Athletic, 2020): ~£3.5m - small profit (promotion add on)
Robert Glatzel (Heidenheim, 2019): ~£5.5m huge loss Warnock
Aden Flint (Bristol City, 2019): ~£4m Warnock
Leandro Bacuna (Reading, 2019): ~£3m - Warnock
Mark McGuinness (Arsenal, 2021): ~Profit

others at a profit
Zohore, Etheridge, Marshall,

So its nowhere near that bad if we remove the messiah.

Fair point. I should rephrase. We don’t get enough out of the players we let go. You just got to look at all the free transfers. Most of them we could have commanded a small fee for. And for the players we did get a fee for, we could have easily gotten more if people at the club were a little more switched on. I did forget about Mcguiness mind. Still blows my mind how we got that much for him. That was good business by the club.

You have highlighted just how much money we have wasted right there. Some absolutely shocking transfers there.

[quote="worcester_ccfc"]I have no knowledge either way but I'm not convinced he'll be sold.

Well documented that he would like to stay.

They may well sell him, I don't know. But I'll cross that bridge when/if it comes to it.


I'd be surprised if clubs didn't have interest. We can all see it, scouts can see it, the lad has a lot of very good attributes. As it stands it's clear he can play for a top end championship club for me. He made the odd mistake but did well for a team that finished bottom. Hope we can keep him for at least this next season but even if he does stay and does well we will have to go through the speculation again in Jan.
Brilliant if he stays but also wouldn't blame him if he leaves. If he stays I predict he's one of the divs top scorer's next season. It's been a while since we had a prolific goal scorer.

If he wants to stay, it makes no sense in selling him.
I think he will tear up League One as there are many strikers like him any more…..20-25 goals in L1 which if we got promoted, makes any profit made on him look irelevant .
If we don’t need to sell, why would we ?
The board need to keep their word about selling players or not..
Hes a totally different proposition to Rallis and Rhino

Ffs so he’s 100% going , sick and tired of this club nothing to look forward to just misery.

That’s an over reaction to a rumour about a possibility of him going.

Exactly.

I think he'll either stay or go for silly money. I don't see anyone offering silly money for a player who's only had half a season in the EFL.

So I believe he'll stay.

But I said the other week that there are certain people who always reply with things like that because their hatred of Tan has meant they've abandoned all possibility of things going well - they'll do that with signings, they did it with the manager (without actually looking at the details) and they'll continue with that.

Ironically they also called Salech "another donkey from abroad then, no different to Kanga" when he signed in January.

I'm not singling anyone out, this is about a few people.

I want Tan out as much as the next person but I don't think replying with constant negativity helps anyone.

Sorry I over reacted to Salech 100 % being sold didn’t mean to offend anyone

You didn’t offend anyone.

I didn't believe we would get promoted or even compete in league 1 next season because of this exact reason. The C*nt (hate using that word but its appropriate here) will asset strip us and possibly put us in another relegation dog fight because he hasn't got a clue and couldn't give 2 shits about the fans.
Any news on cardiff these days I automatically assume is bad and just another shitshow

Unfortunately I agree, my biggest fear is free falling down the leagues. Not sure there are many assets to be stripped but they’ll get as much as they can…

I didn't believe we would get promoted or even compete in league 1 next season because of this exact reason. The C*nt (hate using that word but its appropriate here) will asset strip us and possibly put us in another relegation dog fight because he hasn't got a clue and couldn't give 2 shits about the fans.
Any news on cardiff these days I automatically assume is bad and just another shitshow

Unfortunately I agree, my biggest fear is free falling down the leagues. Not sure there are many assets to be stripped but they’ll get as much as they can…

They are called assets as that is what they are. Bale and his consortium will buy the assets. Selling assets is counterproductive as the money you receive in the form of payment is the same as the reduction of the asset.

Asset stripping involves acquiring an undervalued or distressed company to sell its valuable assets, like property or equipment, for profit. This often ignores the firm’s long-term health, leaving it weakened or bankrupt.
We have more chances of being stripped by the new consortium, who may think the Vale training complex, academy or CCS is worth more as housing and don't give a rats arse about the footballing side.

Does the Bale news change the narrative on selling him? He doesn't want to leave.... if takeover on cards tan doesn't need to sell not that we needed to anyway..... does it make for players to stay at least nearer to end window and see what developes?

I didn't believe we would get promoted or even compete in league 1 next season because of this exact reason. The C*nt (hate using that word but its appropriate here) will asset strip us and possibly put us in another relegation dog fight because he hasn't got a clue and couldn't give 2 shits about the fans.
Any news on cardiff these days I automatically assume is bad and just another shitshow

Unfortunately I agree, my biggest fear is free falling down the leagues. Not sure there are many assets to be stripped but they’ll get as much as they can…

They are called assets as that is what they are. Bale and his consortium will buy the assets. Selling assets is counterproductive as the money you receive in the form of payment is the same as the reduction of the asset.

Asset stripping involves acquiring an undervalued or distressed company to sell its valuable assets, like property or equipment, for profit. This often ignores the firm’s long-term health, leaving it weakened or bankrupt.
We have more chances of being stripped by the new consortium, who may think the Vale training complex, academy or CCS is worth more as housing and don't give a rats arse about the footballing side.

Not sure how much can sell? Academy is joint ownership council & university not entirely by club.... stadium cannot be sold off seperately as in case of derby and others certainly not for housing...training ground cannot turn into housing had enough trouble getting planning for facilities housing will have little chance its also part of Vale holiday complex.. so whilst your right about saleable assets city are not as simple as just selling bits off.

Does the Bale news change the narrative on selling him? He doesn't want to leave.... if takeover on cards tan doesn't need to sell not that we needed to anyway..... does it make for players to stay at least nearer to end window and see what developes?

I’d imagine that if they’re talking figures, there will be a lower one offered if Salech is sold so pointless imo.

I didn't believe we would get promoted or even compete in league 1 next season because of this exact reason. The C*nt (hate using that word but its appropriate here) will asset strip us and possibly put us in another relegation dog fight because he hasn't got a clue and couldn't give 2 shits about the fans.
Any news on cardiff these days I automatically assume is bad and just another shitshow

Unfortunately I agree, my biggest fear is free falling down the leagues. Not sure there are many assets to be stripped but they’ll get as much as they can…

They are called assets as that is what they are. Bale and his consortium will buy the assets. Selling assets is counterproductive as the money you receive in the form of payment is the same as the reduction of the asset.

Asset stripping involves acquiring an undervalued or distressed company to sell its valuable assets, like property or equipment, for profit. This often ignores the firm’s long-term health, leaving it weakened or bankrupt.
We have more chances of being stripped by the new consortium, who may think the Vale training complex, academy or CCS is worth more as housing and don't give a rats arse about the footballing side.

Not sure how much can sell? Academy is joint ownership not entirely by club.... stadium cannot be sold off seperately as in case of derby and others.. training ground cannot turn into housing had enough trouble getting planning for facilities housing will have no little chance its also part of Vale holiday complex.. so whilst your right about saleable assets city are not as simple as just selling bits off.

No Allan I am not saying that

I am just pointing out that the Asset stripping narrative is pointless when obviously Tan is in the process of at least thinking about selling.
It's like asking for a professional valuation of my house, which says it's £400K, but if I sell half of the back garden to my neighbour for £40k, the valuation will drop to £360K.
Its £400k whatever way. Whether a $400 asset or a £360 asset and £40k of cash. If I still owe 100K to the bank in the form of a mortgage, I have a net asset of £300K , whichever way you look at it.

So Tan won't be liquidating assets as some form of cash grab

I didn't believe we would get promoted or even compete in league 1 next season because of this exact reason. The C*nt (hate using that word but its appropriate here) will asset strip us and possibly put us in another relegation dog fight because he hasn't got a clue and couldn't give 2 shits about the fans.
Any news on cardiff these days I automatically assume is bad and just another shitshow

Unfortunately I agree, my biggest fear is free falling down the leagues. Not sure there are many assets to be stripped but they’ll get as much as they can…

They are called assets as that is what they are. Bale and his consortium will buy the assets. Selling assets is counterproductive as the money you receive in the form of payment is the same as the reduction of the asset.

Asset stripping involves acquiring an undervalued or distressed company to sell its valuable assets, like property or equipment, for profit. This often ignores the firm’s long-term health, leaving it weakened or bankrupt.
We have more chances of being stripped by the new consortium, who may think the Vale training complex, academy or CCS is worth more as housing and don't give a rats arse about the footballing side.

Not sure how much can sell? Academy is joint ownership council & university not entirely by club.... stadium cannot be sold off seperately as in case of derby and others certainly not for housing...training ground cannot turn into housing had enough trouble getting planning for facilities housing will have little chance its also part of Vale holiday complex.. so whilst your right about saleable assets city are not as simple as just selling bits off.

This isn't about some faceless corporation trying to strip our club for parts. No, this feels like smart money looking at a massive opportunity. They've clearly seen what we all see: the potential in this club, in this city. We're a proud Welsh club, with a passionate fanbase, and a history that deserves to be back at the top.

Think about it: owning the capital city's club, the one Gareth Bale himself grew up supporting, and taking us all the way to the Premier League? That's not just a dream for us fans; that's a seriously shrewd move for investors. The exposure, the money that flows into a Premier League club – it's huge.

This isn't some short-term gamble. This is about seeing the raw potential of Cardiff City and putting their backing behind a journey that could make us all incredibly proud, and make them a pretty penny in the process. It's about taking our club, our Bluebirds, and finally getting them where they belong. We've got the foundations; maybe this is the push we've been waiting for.

I didn't believe we would get promoted or even compete in league 1 next season because of this exact reason. The C*nt (hate using that word but its appropriate here) will asset strip us and possibly put us in another relegation dog fight because he hasn't got a clue and couldn't give 2 shits about the fans.
Any news on cardiff these days I automatically assume is bad and just another shitshow

Unfortunately I agree, my biggest fear is free falling down the leagues. Not sure there are many assets to be stripped but they’ll get as much as they can…

They are called assets as that is what they are. Bale and his consortium will buy the assets. Selling assets is counterproductive as the money you receive in the form of payment is the same as the reduction of the asset.

Asset stripping involves acquiring an undervalued or distressed company to sell its valuable assets, like property or equipment, for profit. This often ignores the firm’s long-term health, leaving it weakened or bankrupt.
We have more chances of being stripped by the new consortium, who may think the Vale training complex, academy or CCS is worth more as housing and don't give a rats arse about the footballing side.

Not sure how much can sell? Academy is joint ownership council & university not entirely by club.... stadium cannot be sold off seperately as in case of derby and others certainly not for housing...training ground cannot turn into housing had enough trouble getting planning for facilities housing will have little chance its also part of Vale holiday complex.. so whilst your right about saleable assets city are not as simple as just selling bits off.

This isn't about some faceless corporation trying to strip our club for parts. No, this feels like smart money looking at a massive opportunity. They've clearly seen what we all see: the potential in this club, in this city. We're a proud Welsh club, with a passionate fanbase, and a history that deserves to be back at the top.

Think about it: owning the capital city's club, the one Gareth Bale himself grew up supporting, and taking us all the way to the Premier League? That's not just a dream for us fans; that's a seriously shrewd move for investors. The exposure, the money that flows into a Premier League club – it's huge.

This isn't some short-term gamble. This is about seeing the raw potential of Cardiff City and putting their backing behind a journey that could make us all incredibly proud, and make them a pretty penny in the process. It's about taking our club, our Bluebirds, and finally getting them where they belong. We've got the foundations; maybe this is the push we've been waiting for.

Agree cannot see any value in selling assets if take over pointless exercise.

I didn't believe we would get promoted or even compete in league 1 next season because of this exact reason. The C*nt (hate using that word but its appropriate here) will asset strip us and possibly put us in another relegation dog fight because he hasn't got a clue and couldn't give 2 shits about the fans.
Any news on cardiff these days I automatically assume is bad and just another shitshow

Unfortunately I agree, my biggest fear is free falling down the leagues. Not sure there are many assets to be stripped but they’ll get as much as they can…

They are called assets as that is what they are. Bale and his consortium will buy the assets. Selling assets is counterproductive as the money you receive in the form of payment is the same as the reduction of the asset.

Asset stripping involves acquiring an undervalued or distressed company to sell its valuable assets, like property or equipment, for profit. This often ignores the firm’s long-term health, leaving it weakened or bankrupt.
We have more chances of being stripped by the new consortium, who may think the Vale training complex, academy or CCS is worth more as housing and don't give a rats arse about the footballing side.

Not sure how much can sell? Academy is joint ownership council & university not entirely by club.... stadium cannot be sold off seperately as in case of derby and others certainly not for housing...training ground cannot turn into housing had enough trouble getting planning for facilities housing will have little chance its also part of Vale holiday complex.. so whilst your right about saleable assets city are not as simple as just selling bits off.

This isn't about some faceless corporation trying to strip our club for parts. No, this feels like smart money looking at a massive opportunity. They've clearly seen what we all see: the potential in this club, in this city. We're a proud Welsh club, with a passionate fanbase, and a history that deserves to be back at the top.

Think about it: owning the capital city's club, the one Gareth Bale himself grew up supporting, and taking us all the way to the Premier League? That's not just a dream for us fans; that's a seriously shrewd move for investors. The exposure, the money that flows into a Premier League club – it's huge.

This isn't some short-term gamble. This is about seeing the raw potential of Cardiff City and putting their backing behind a journey that could make us all incredibly proud, and make them a pretty penny in the process. It's about taking our club, our Bluebirds, and finally getting them where they belong. We've got the foundations; maybe this is the push we've been waiting for.

Agree cannot see any value in selling assets if take over pointless exercise.

The 'Welcome to Wrexham' documentary series has significantly elevated the awareness and perceived potential of Welsh football clubs within the American market. This substantial wave of positive publicity may inadvertently be contributing to a more favourable view of investment opportunities, and we may be benefiting as a result.

I didn't believe we would get promoted or even compete in league 1 next season because of this exact reason. The C*nt (hate using that word but its appropriate here) will asset strip us and possibly put us in another relegation dog fight because he hasn't got a clue and couldn't give 2 shits about the fans.
Any news on cardiff these days I automatically assume is bad and just another shitshow

Unfortunately I agree, my biggest fear is free falling down the leagues. Not sure there are many assets to be stripped but they’ll get as much as they can…

They are called assets as that is what they are. Bale and his consortium will buy the assets. Selling assets is counterproductive as the money you receive in the form of payment is the same as the reduction of the asset.

Asset stripping involves acquiring an undervalued or distressed company to sell its valuable assets, like property or equipment, for profit. This often ignores the firm’s long-term health, leaving it weakened or bankrupt.
We have more chances of being stripped by the new consortium, who may think the Vale training complex, academy or CCS is worth more as housing and don't give a rats arse about the footballing side.

Not sure how much can sell? Academy is joint ownership council & university not entirely by club.... stadium cannot be sold off seperately as in case of derby and others certainly not for housing...training ground cannot turn into housing had enough trouble getting planning for facilities housing will have little chance its also part of Vale holiday complex.. so whilst your right about saleable assets city are not as simple as just selling bits off.

This isn't about some faceless corporation trying to strip our club for parts. No, this feels like smart money looking at a massive opportunity. They've clearly seen what we all see: the potential in this club, in this city. We're a proud Welsh club, with a passionate fanbase, and a history that deserves to be back at the top.

Think about it: owning the capital city's club, the one Gareth Bale himself grew up supporting, and taking us all the way to the Premier League? That's not just a dream for us fans; that's a seriously shrewd move for investors. The exposure, the money that flows into a Premier League club – it's huge.

This isn't some short-term gamble. This is about seeing the raw potential of Cardiff City and putting their backing behind a journey that could make us all incredibly proud, and make them a pretty penny in the process. It's about taking our club, our Bluebirds, and finally getting them where they belong. We've got the foundations; maybe this is the push we've been waiting for.

Agree cannot see any value in selling assets if take over pointless exercise.

The 'Welcome to Wrexham' documentary series has significantly elevated the awareness and perceived potential of Welsh football clubs within the American market. This substantial wave of positive publicity may inadvertently be contributing to a more favourable view of investment opportunities, and we may be benefiting as a result.

No coincidence that there are several div 1 or 2 efl clubs being looked at by these American equity firms normally minimal investment but with careful choice of coach and reasonable investment on players rewards can by higher than taking over a championship club .. yes we are exception with tans debt but there again club much bigger than most div 1 clubs.

If the sell him and other players i won't be going down next season .
Let wait and see but if they do it's a total lack of ambition to get back to the championship in my mind .

100% still here so far

No doubt BBM is thinking, get lost he's going nowhere I need him for a promotion push.

If the sell him and other players i won't be going down next season .
Let wait and see but if they do it's a total lack of ambition to get back to the championship in my mind .

What if he wants to leave? Chain him to the gates & let him go on match days, how did that go with KM? Either support the club or don't, players come & go, it's all part of the game.