Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:06 pm
ORCHARD BLUEBIRD wrote:Fingers crossed annis hope it's a Saudi consortium ready get our club back to where we belong I can dream
Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:21 pm
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:12 pm
pembroke allan wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Out with family today so just a few brief thoughts.
Good that he's actually talking but he's done that before and then asked for stupid money.
Don't know if we'll be sold before the Sala case.
I hope I'm wrong.
Ned tan can negotiate around sala case and the actual amount they pay upfront for club...both can be part of deal to buy off tan dont see it as problem
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:12 pm
MikeO76 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Out with family today so just a few brief thoughts.
Good that he's actually talking but he's done that before and then asked for stupid money.
Don't know if we'll be sold before the Sala case.
I hope I'm wrong.
I would hope that the price was discussed from the very start. The fact it's been a week hopefully indicates the two parties are not too far apart on their respective figures
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:14 pm
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:29 pm
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Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:40 pm
MorgCCFC wrote:Why are people so against American investment?
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Currently have American investors.
Not all turn out to be great but I think there are more good than bad.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:47 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Why are people so against American investment?
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Currently have American investors.
Not all turn out to be great but I think there are more good than bad.
Four of those you've mentioned are big six clubs. Another was in the CL this season. They are a completely different animal to us.
By the way, look at the amount of debt Man Utd have because of the Glazers.
American investment firms at lower level clubs often have one target - and that is asset stripping.
I want Tan to go but not at any cost.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:52 pm
MorgCCFC wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Why are people so against American investment?
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Currently have American investors.
Not all turn out to be great but I think there are more good than bad.
Four of those you've mentioned are big six clubs. Another was in the CL this season. They are a completely different animal to us.
By the way, look at the amount of debt Man Utd have because of the Glazers.
American investment firms at lower level clubs often have one target - and that is asset stripping.
I want Tan to go but not at any cost.
Yes of course Man united is a bad example of American investment. But Jim Radcliffe is even worse. If you don’t want to compare premier league owners/investors. You can look at Birmingham, leeds, Millwall, Norwich and Wrexham as good examples. Theres loads more throughout the EFL. I think they get a bad rep because of a chosen few.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:54 pm
Igovernor wrote:I was told by someone who did know what was going on regarding bids, that an american consortium were very close to buying city and were very near the asking price but did not persue at that moment in time. Perhaps they have come back in with a higher bid, or Tan has reduced his price.
Now this is pure guesswork on my part regarding the Americans coming back in.
It would come as no surprise to me though that Dalmen would be part of a consortium, interested in city. He must be pissed off with Tan after what has happened
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:56 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Why are people so against American investment?
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Currently have American investors.
Not all turn out to be great but I think there are more good than bad.
Four of those you've mentioned are big six clubs. Another was in the CL this season. They are a completely different animal to us.
By the way, look at the amount of debt Man Utd have because of the Glazers.
American investment firms at lower level clubs often have one target - and that is asset stripping.
I want Tan to go but not at any cost.
Yes of course Man united is a bad example of American investment. But Jim Radcliffe is even worse. If you don’t want to compare premier league owners/investors. You can look at Birmingham, leeds, Millwall, Norwich and Wrexham as good examples. Theres loads more throughout the EFL. I think they get a bad rep because of a chosen few.
I wouldn't include Leeds and Norwich as good examples.
If they were doing well then Leeds would be at least mid table PL regularly and Norwich would be PL/top of Championship.
Birmingham's American owners got them relegated by sacking Eustace for Rooney. Alright they got them promoted again but let's see how it plays out.
My thoughts on Wrexham's owners are clear. Not the romantic story everyone makes it out to be and I can't wait until it ends in tears.
Millwall are mid table in the Championship which is probably where they should be so not sure that's a massive success story.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:57 pm
Roath_Blue wrote:I couldn’t care less about nationality.
A local businessman who is a fan of the club would be the ideal however as far as I am aware, there isn’t anyone in Cardiff who fits that mould.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:59 pm
MorgCCFC wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Why are people so against American investment?
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Currently have American investors.
Not all turn out to be great but I think there are more good than bad.
Four of those you've mentioned are big six clubs. Another was in the CL this season. They are a completely different animal to us.
By the way, look at the amount of debt Man Utd have because of the Glazers.
American investment firms at lower level clubs often have one target - and that is asset stripping.
I want Tan to go but not at any cost.
Yes of course Man united is a bad example of American investment. But Jim Radcliffe is even worse. If you don’t want to compare premier league owners/investors. You can look at Birmingham, leeds, Millwall, Norwich and Wrexham as good examples. Theres loads more throughout the EFL. I think they get a bad rep because of a chosen few.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:59 pm
birdy1964 wrote:I am preying this is true and he sells, do not matter who buys the club because we can not get any worse of an owner than Tan, keeping all my fingers and toes crossed that theres some truth in this post.
Thanks for the info Annis.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:01 pm
maccydee wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Why are people so against American investment?
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Currently have American investors.
Not all turn out to be great but I think there are more good than bad.
Four of those you've mentioned are big six clubs. Another was in the CL this season. They are a completely different animal to us.
By the way, look at the amount of debt Man Utd have because of the Glazers.
American investment firms at lower level clubs often have one target - and that is asset stripping.
I want Tan to go but not at any cost.
Yes of course Man united is a bad example of American investment. But Jim Radcliffe is even worse. If you don’t want to compare premier league owners/investors. You can look at Birmingham, leeds, Millwall, Norwich and Wrexham as good examples. Theres loads more throughout the EFL. I think they get a bad rep because of a chosen few.
I wouldn't include Leeds and Norwich as good examples.
If they were doing well then Leeds would be at least mid table PL regularly and Norwich would be PL/top of Championship.
Birmingham's American owners got them relegated by sacking Eustace for Rooney. Alright they got them promoted again but let's see how it plays out.
My thoughts on Wrexham's owners are clear. Not the romantic story everyone makes it out to be and I can't wait until it ends in tears.
Millwall are mid table in the Championship which is probably where they should be so not sure that's a massive success story.
What do you think the deal is with Wrexham owners then?
Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:07 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:maccydee wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Why are people so against American investment?
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Currently have American investors.
Not all turn out to be great but I think there are more good than bad.
Four of those you've mentioned are big six clubs. Another was in the CL this season. They are a completely different animal to us.
By the way, look at the amount of debt Man Utd have because of the Glazers.
American investment firms at lower level clubs often have one target - and that is asset stripping.
I want Tan to go but not at any cost.
Yes of course Man united is a bad example of American investment. But Jim Radcliffe is even worse. If you don’t want to compare premier league owners/investors. You can look at Birmingham, leeds, Millwall, Norwich and Wrexham as good examples. Theres loads more throughout the EFL. I think they get a bad rep because of a chosen few.
I wouldn't include Leeds and Norwich as good examples.
If they were doing well then Leeds would be at least mid table PL regularly and Norwich would be PL/top of Championship.
Birmingham's American owners got them relegated by sacking Eustace for Rooney. Alright they got them promoted again but let's see how it plays out.
My thoughts on Wrexham's owners are clear. Not the romantic story everyone makes it out to be and I can't wait until it ends in tears.
Millwall are mid table in the Championship which is probably where they should be so not sure that's a massive success story.
What do you think the deal is with Wrexham owners then?
It's about boosting their profile more and showing another side to them.
They the documentary which accompanies the ownership.
Reynolds especially needs to be careful because he is losing a lot of goodwill due to his wife's court case.
It could go on another 3,4,5 - even ten years. But when it crashes it will properly crash.
Could well be wrong but this isn't some noble thing they're doing.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:12 pm
maccydee wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:maccydee wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Why are people so against American investment?
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Currently have American investors.
Not all turn out to be great but I think there are more good than bad.
Four of those you've mentioned are big six clubs. Another was in the CL this season. They are a completely different animal to us.
By the way, look at the amount of debt Man Utd have because of the Glazers.
American investment firms at lower level clubs often have one target - and that is asset stripping.
I want Tan to go but not at any cost.
Yes of course Man united is a bad example of American investment. But Jim Radcliffe is even worse. If you don’t want to compare premier league owners/investors. You can look at Birmingham, leeds, Millwall, Norwich and Wrexham as good examples. Theres loads more throughout the EFL. I think they get a bad rep because of a chosen few.
I wouldn't include Leeds and Norwich as good examples.
If they were doing well then Leeds would be at least mid table PL regularly and Norwich would be PL/top of Championship.
Birmingham's American owners got them relegated by sacking Eustace for Rooney. Alright they got them promoted again but let's see how it plays out.
My thoughts on Wrexham's owners are clear. Not the romantic story everyone makes it out to be and I can't wait until it ends in tears.
Millwall are mid table in the Championship which is probably where they should be so not sure that's a massive success story.
What do you think the deal is with Wrexham owners then?
It's about boosting their profile more and showing another side to them.
They the documentary which accompanies the ownership.
Reynolds especially needs to be careful because he is losing a lot of goodwill due to his wife's court case.
It could go on another 3,4,5 - even ten years. But when it crashes it will properly crash.
Could well be wrong but this isn't some noble thing they're doing.
His wife is having a PR problem at the moment but that’s only been for 12 months. They have been owners a lot longer than that.
Ryan Reynolds is a huge star. He didn’t need his profile boosting. Mcelhenny is a star of a major American sitcom. Also a big star albeit not as big as Reynolds.
They are pretty good actors granted but not so good that they can fake it consistently and for so long. They have also had offers to make their money back. I genuinely think this is a labour of love for them.
They have done what Sam did for us in effect. We would love it if they took us over.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:18 pm
Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:35 pm
Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:37 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MorgCCFC wrote:Why are people so against American investment?
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Chelsea, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Currently have American investors.
Not all turn out to be great but I think there are more good than bad.
Four of those you've mentioned are big six clubs. Another was in the CL this season. They are a completely different animal to us.
By the way, look at the amount of debt Man Utd have because of the Glazers.
American investment firms at lower level clubs often have one target - and that is asset stripping.
I want Tan to go but not at any cost.
Yes of course Man united is a bad example of American investment. But Jim Radcliffe is even worse. If you don’t want to compare premier league owners/investors. You can look at Birmingham, leeds, Millwall, Norwich and Wrexham as good examples. Theres loads more throughout the EFL. I think they get a bad rep because of a chosen few.
I wouldn't include Leeds and Norwich as good examples.
If they were doing well then Leeds would be at least mid table PL regularly and Norwich would be PL/top of Championship.
Birmingham's American owners got them relegated by sacking Eustace for Rooney. Alright they got them promoted again but let's see how it plays out.
My thoughts on Wrexham's owners are clear. Not the romantic story everyone makes it out to be and I can't wait until it ends in tears.
Millwall are mid table in the Championship which is probably where they should be so not sure that's a massive success story.
Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:15 pm
Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:15 pm
Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:51 pm
Welsh Exile wrote:Is this Lim Kok Thay, he was allegedly interested before, he’s worth about $2b and is the chairman or ceo of the Genting casino group, they have the most casino’s in the uk i think.
He is Malaysian but very very rich and seems to be a very good business operator.