NEW FAVOURITE FOR CARDIFF JOB AS TAN FUCKS UP AGAIN

People losing there shit over Internet rumours ,nothing offical about any of what's put out on this or in the media, certain posters bashing the club over rumours from the media the same media that they've been slagging off all seasons , let's wait and see who is announced officially.

Thank you Wez,

Your friend Tan, it does not matter how long I take to get a manager as long as he is my puppet

How many posts from different posters saying that 100% confirmed as manager in the last few weeks ? , its laughable the rumour mill no one knows the talks going on behind closed doors better off waiting for the offical announcement coz the Internet has got it totally wrong and the so called itk players.

Wes, it’s a roller coaster behind the scenes and even those close are getting pissed off with the ‘almost but not quite’ negotiations. Deals in principle have been made but each one has been scuppered by the final details, in which all have had the goal posts moved

Dalman has been pushed out in recent times, so that leaves only one ‘can carrier’, Vincent Tan (and of course, his negotiator-in chief, Ken Choo

Where else can we now turn to show our disappointment at the was things are and have been for way too long now?

How do you know Dalman has been pushed out in recent times ? If this has come from Dalman or one of his cronies then dont believe a word of it.

I’ve kept off here in the horrendous recent weeks during this latest chapter in this horrific shit show that is Vincent Tan and his ‘running’ of our club, how any Cardiff City fan can still be saying things like ‘calm down let’s wait for official news’ and ‘but he gave us EPL twice and is still funding us’ is beyond me and saddens me, then those who ridicule those of us who organise protests and petitions just to raise awareness and network the fact that we are not happy, it’s unacceptable gross mismanagement and neglect, we are the ones that suffer, we are a cog in his financial wheel, a filter for tax purposes, wake the F up thanks to this individual I believe managers and agents know among themselves that nobody wants to manage us due to him, he will never change , and his two lapdogs are equally to blame. I saw this coming , not the day he went against his word and turned us red, but the day he returned us to blue. Our players are in limbo, a Spanish tour booked and seven weeks on and still no manager and yet again more broken promises. Where are you all Cardiff City fans stand up for your club ffs,and stop not picking and criticising those of us who get from behind our keyboards and actually try to do something

How about not criticising others who don't have same enthusiasm for demo as others do? No one wants tan here by same token not everyone go into overdrive and take a more pragmatic view! This latest debacle is absolutely madness and yes he should be sanctioned for gross mismanagement of the club. In this latest saga... if read between lines the problem id tan and ken dalman as tried to get things through but the dictator knows best and we end up managerless and drifting into a season totally unprepared with pre season weeks away ..if dont get someone in with experience we are going to struggle and possibly relegation fight again. .. its that serious a situation

I’ve kept off here in the horrendous recent weeks during this latest chapter in this horrific shit show that is Vincent Tan and his ‘running’ of our club, how any Cardiff City fan can still be saying things like ‘calm down let’s wait for official news’ and ‘but he gave us EPL twice and is still funding us’ is beyond me and saddens me, then those who ridicule those of us who organise protests and petitions just to raise awareness and network the fact that we are not happy, it’s unacceptable gross mismanagement and neglect, we are the ones that suffer, we are a cog in his financial wheel, a filter for tax purposes, wake the F up thanks to this individual I believe managers and agents know among themselves that nobody wants to manage us due to him, he will never change , and his two lapdogs are equally to blame. I saw this coming , not the day he went against his word and turned us red, but the day he returned us to blue. Our players are in limbo, a Spanish tour booked and seven weeks on and still no manager and yet again more broken promises. Where are you all Cardiff City fans stand up for your club ffs,and stop not picking and criticising those of us who get from behind our keyboards and actually try to do something

How about not criticising others who don't have same enthusiasm for demo as others do? No one wants tan here by same token not everyone go into overdrive and take a more pragmatic view! This latest debacle is absolutely madness and yes he should be sanctioned for gross mismanagement of the club. In this latest saga... if read between lines the problem id tan and ken dalman as tried to get things through but the dictator knows best and we end up managerless and drifting into a season totally unprepared with pre season weeks away ..if dont get someone in with experience we are going to struggle and possibly relegation fight again. .. its that serious a situation

We got tonnes of criticism and ridicule for protesting, starting a petition , actually trying things, Jonny in particular even being nitpicked at for his wording of the petition, by those who are moaning about Tan themselves. Instead of petty critique, offer solutions, ideas and hel out. Those who try and start something to raise awareness and exposure are sitting ducks for many city fans , I’ve been pragmatic for years and maybe even hopeful, it doesn’t get us anywhere with this man. Stand up for your club FFS what’s it going to take?

I’ve kept off here in the horrendous recent weeks during this latest chapter in this horrific shit show that is Vincent Tan and his ‘running’ of our club, how any Cardiff City fan can still be saying things like ‘calm down let’s wait for official news’ and ‘but he gave us EPL twice and is still funding us’ is beyond me and saddens me, then those who ridicule those of us who organise protests and petitions just to raise awareness and network the fact that we are not happy, it’s unacceptable gross mismanagement and neglect, we are the ones that suffer, we are a cog in his financial wheel, a filter for tax purposes, wake the F up thanks to this individual I believe managers and agents know among themselves that nobody wants to manage us due to him, he will never change , and his two lapdogs are equally to blame. I saw this coming , not the day he went against his word and turned us red, but the day he returned us to blue. Our players are in limbo, a Spanish tour booked and seven weeks on and still no manager and yet again more broken promises. Where are you all Cardiff City fans stand up for your club ffs,and stop not picking and criticising those of us who get from behind our keyboards and actually try to do something

How about not criticising others who don't have same enthusiasm for demo as others do? No one wants tan here by same token not everyone go into overdrive and take a more pragmatic view! This latest debacle is absolutely madness and yes he should be sanctioned for gross mismanagement of the club. In this latest saga... if read between lines the problem id tan and ken dalman as tried to get things through but the dictator knows best and we end up managerless and drifting into a season totally unprepared with pre season weeks away ..if dont get someone in with experience we are going to struggle and possibly relegation fight again. .. its that serious a situation

We got tonnes of criticism and ridicule for protesting, starting a petition , actually trying things, Jonny in particular even being nitpicked at for his wording of the petition, by those who are moaning about Tan themselves. Instead of petty critique, offer solutions, ideas and hel out. Those who try and start something to raise awareness and exposure are sitting ducks for many city fans , I’ve been pragmatic for years and maybe even hopeful, it doesn’t get us anywhere with this man. Stand up for your club FFS what’s it going to take?

The criticism I’ve seen isn’t because of the wording.

It’s because it’s the wrong angle.

A protest sent from the group with thousands of signatures from supporters, directly to the club, detailing why we are unhappy would (in my opinion) be a lot better than a petition to the EFL to re think his fit and proper status.

He pays the bills, pays the players and pays the staff - that is what the EFL want to make sure of - not how long it takes to appoint a manager, and who the manager is for example.

Just as a bit of feedback outside of the petition:

You mention that you’ve been ridiculed and criticised as a group.

However….

People who are pushing the protests consistently call people who don’t protest Tan Lovers, Jonny himself has made comments about city fans. Even on his new thread, calling people Naive.

Doesn’t exactly make people want to get involved if I’m honest.

I’ve kept off here in the horrendous recent weeks during this latest chapter in this horrific shit show that is Vincent Tan and his ‘running’ of our club, how any Cardiff City fan can still be saying things like ‘calm down let’s wait for official news’ and ‘but he gave us EPL twice and is still funding us’ is beyond me and saddens me, then those who ridicule those of us who organise protests and petitions just to raise awareness and network the fact that we are not happy, it’s unacceptable gross mismanagement and neglect, we are the ones that suffer, we are a cog in his financial wheel, a filter for tax purposes, wake the F up thanks to this individual I believe managers and agents know among themselves that nobody wants to manage us due to him, he will never change , and his two lapdogs are equally to blame. I saw this coming , not the day he went against his word and turned us red, but the day he returned us to blue. Our players are in limbo, a Spanish tour booked and seven weeks on and still no manager and yet again more broken promises. Where are you all Cardiff City fans stand up for your club ffs,and stop not picking and criticising those of us who get from behind our keyboards and actually try to do something

How about not criticising others who don't have same enthusiasm for demo as others do? No one wants tan here by same token not everyone go into overdrive and take a more pragmatic view! This latest debacle is absolutely madness and yes he should be sanctioned for gross mismanagement of the club. In this latest saga... if read between lines the problem id tan and ken dalman as tried to get things through but the dictator knows best and we end up managerless and drifting into a season totally unprepared with pre season weeks away ..if dont get someone in with experience we are going to struggle and possibly relegation fight again. .. its that serious a situation

We got tonnes of criticism and ridicule for protesting, starting a petition , actually trying things, Jonny in particular even being nitpicked at for his wording of the petition, by those who are moaning about Tan themselves. Instead of petty critique, offer solutions, ideas and hel out. Those who try and start something to raise awareness and exposure are sitting ducks for many city fans , I’ve been pragmatic for years and maybe even hopeful, it doesn’t get us anywhere with this man. Stand up for your club FFS what’s it going to take?

The criticism I’ve seen isn’t because of the wording.

It’s because it’s the wrong angle.

A protest sent from the group with thousands of signatures from supporters, directly to the club, detailing why we are unhappy would (in my opinion) be a lot better than a petition to the EFL to re think his fit and proper status.

He pays the bills, pays the players and pays the staff - that is what the EFL want to make sure of - not how long it takes to appoint a manager, and who the manager is for example.

Just as a bit of feedback outside of the petition:

You mention that you’ve been ridiculed and criticised as a group.

However….

People who are pushing the protests consistently call people who don’t protest Tan Lovers, Jonny himself has made comments about city fans. Even on his new thread, calling people Naive.

Doesn’t exactly make people want to get involved if I’m honest.

So why couldn’t you have offered that reasonable feedback which may well be helpful in the first place instead of publicly being condescending, pedantic and sarcastic (that’s how your post on the other thread sounded) and that’s why there’s simply not a unity when we absolutely need it more than ever. If you don’t make changes - nothing changes. Tan won’t make changes, it’s our club he’s a custodian with the keys. So we need to rally and unite and come up with something to influence or provoke that change we so desperately need. There have been sit ins on the centre spot, hanging around boardrooms and reception in the days before internet, tennis balls, Tan Out balloons, using social media, Tan out posters billboarded around the city petitions, protests whatever it is, we are trying and open to suggestion not petty critique

Ramsey would have taken the Managers role but wanted a proper structure including a DOF put in place this would have been the best way of moving the Club forward. However this new structure would have threatened the postion of Ken Choo so he put every obstacle in the way to stop Ramsey taking the managers role including making a derisory offer to both Ramsey and his proposed assistant.

Ramsey did not get on with Choo at all and found it impossible to negotiate with him. This information has come from someone very close to Ramsey who was at the Wales game on Friday. Ramsey has obviously had enough and decided to take up the option to carry on playing in Mexico.

Personally I think we have lost our best chance of having a professional football structure put in place and I believe Choo is directly to blame and needs to be outed.

Others might be able to confirm all this?

I’ve kept off here in the horrendous recent weeks during this latest chapter in this horrific shit show that is Vincent Tan and his ‘running’ of our club, how any Cardiff City fan can still be saying things like ‘calm down let’s wait for official news’ and ‘but he gave us EPL twice and is still funding us’ is beyond me and saddens me, then those who ridicule those of us who organise protests and petitions just to raise awareness and network the fact that we are not happy, it’s unacceptable gross mismanagement and neglect, we are the ones that suffer, we are a cog in his financial wheel, a filter for tax purposes, wake the F up thanks to this individual I believe managers and agents know among themselves that nobody wants to manage us due to him, he will never change , and his two lapdogs are equally to blame. I saw this coming , not the day he went against his word and turned us red, but the day he returned us to blue. Our players are in limbo, a Spanish tour booked and seven weeks on and still no manager and yet again more broken promises. Where are you all Cardiff City fans stand up for your club ffs,and stop not picking and criticising those of us who get from behind our keyboards and actually try to do something

How about not criticising others who don't have same enthusiasm for demo as others do? No one wants tan here by same token not everyone go into overdrive and take a more pragmatic view! This latest debacle is absolutely madness and yes he should be sanctioned for gross mismanagement of the club. In this latest saga... if read between lines the problem id tan and ken dalman as tried to get things through but the dictator knows best and we end up managerless and drifting into a season totally unprepared with pre season weeks away ..if dont get someone in with experience we are going to struggle and possibly relegation fight again. .. its that serious a situation

We got tonnes of criticism and ridicule for protesting, starting a petition , actually trying things, Jonny in particular even being nitpicked at for his wording of the petition, by those who are moaning about Tan themselves. Instead of petty critique, offer solutions, ideas and hel out. Those who try and start something to raise awareness and exposure are sitting ducks for many city fans , I’ve been pragmatic for years and maybe even hopeful, it doesn’t get us anywhere with this man. Stand up for your club FFS what’s it going to take?

The criticism I’ve seen isn’t because of the wording.

It’s because it’s the wrong angle.

A protest sent from the group with thousands of signatures from supporters, directly to the club, detailing why we are unhappy would (in my opinion) be a lot better than a petition to the EFL to re think his fit and proper status.

He pays the bills, pays the players and pays the staff - that is what the EFL want to make sure of - not how long it takes to appoint a manager, and who the manager is for example.

Just as a bit of feedback outside of the petition:

You mention that you’ve been ridiculed and criticised as a group.

However….

People who are pushing the protests consistently call people who don’t protest Tan Lovers, Jonny himself has made comments about city fans. Even on his new thread, calling people Naive.

Doesn’t exactly make people want to get involved if I’m honest.

So why couldn’t you have offered that reasonable feedback which may well be helpful in the first place instead of publicly being condescending, pedantic and sarcastic (that’s how your post on the other thread sounded) and that’s why there’s simply not a unity when we absolutely need it more than ever. If you don’t make changes - nothing changes. Tan won’t make changes, it’s our club he’s a custodian with the keys. So we need to rally and unite and come up with something to influence or provoke that change we so desperately need. There have been sit ins on the centre spot, hanging around boardrooms and reception in the days before internet, tennis balls, Tan Out balloons, using social media, Tan out posters billboarded around the city petitions, protests whatever it is, we are trying and open to suggestion not petty critique

See it from my point of view.

Petition was made, the link was posted, and comments were made about the lack of signatures received.

At that point, I posted three other forums where word could be spread - one of those being a national forum with hundreds of thousands of accounts that are supporters from all teams. PL through to Welsh League and some from abroad.

This forum, if it was posted, would probably have meant a surge of signatures, not only from Cardiff Fans, but also fans of Blackburn, Reading, Man United etc - every club that has had problems with their owners, and want to see changes made regarding who can and cannot be an owner of a football club.

Hell, there could even have been a petition made as a group of teams, not just 500 signatures from Cardiff City fans.

So in respone : I tried to help. It fell on deaf ears.

Ramsey would have taken the Managers role but wanted a proper structure including a DOF put in place this would have been the best way of moving the Club forward. However this new structure would have threatened the postion of Ken Choo so he put every obstacle in the way to stop Ramsey taking the managers role including making a derisory offer to both Ramsey and his proposed assistant.

Ramsey did not get on with Choo at all and found it impossible to negotiate with him. This information has come from someone very close to Ramsey who was at the Wales game on Friday. Ramsey has obviously had enough and decided to take up the option to carry on playing in Mexico.

Personally I think we have lost our best chance of having a professional football structure put in place and I believe Choo is directly to blame and needs to be outed.

Others might be able to confirm all this?

Correct on Choo trying to screw Rambo over but I don’t think he (Choo) is in danger of losing his job, if a DoF were to come in, as he is (I repeat) Tan’s eyes and ears in Cardiff, so somewhat needed by an owner thousands of miles away

I would love to hear Mehmet Dalman’s views on all of this but he has apparently been marginalised of late. I feel he would have had all this sorted out (maybe even Jones) by now, if given a serious chance

I doubt Choo has much autonomy. The parameters would have been set by his boss

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Ramsey would have taken the Managers role but wanted a proper structure including a DOF put in place this would have been the best way of moving the Club forward. However this new structure would have threatened the postion of Ken Choo so he put every obstacle in the way to stop Ramsey taking the managers role including making a derisory offer to both Ramsey and his proposed assistant.

Ramsey did not get on with Choo at all and found it impossible to negotiate with him. This information has come from someone very close to Ramsey who was at the Wales game on Friday. Ramsey has obviously had enough and decided to take up the option to carry on playing in Mexico.

Personally I think we have lost our best chance of having a professional football structure put in place and I believe Choo is directly to blame and needs to be outed.

Others might be able to confirm all this?

Correct on Choo trying to screw Rambo over but I don’t think he (Choo) is in danger of losing his job, if a DoF were to come in, as he is (I repeat) Tan’s eyes and ears in Cardiff, so somewhat needed by an owner thousands of miles away

I would love to hear Mehmet Dalman’s views on all of this but he has apparently been marginalised of late. I feel he would have had all this sorted out (maybe even Jones) by now, if given a serious chance

How do you know Dalman has been marginalised ? If this has come from Dalman or one of his cronies then dont believe a word of it.

Ramsey would have taken the Managers role but wanted a proper structure including a DOF put in place this would have been the best way of moving the Club forward. However this new structure would have threatened the postion of Ken Choo so he put every obstacle in the way to stop Ramsey taking the managers role including making a derisory offer to both Ramsey and his proposed assistant.

Ramsey did not get on with Choo at all and found it impossible to negotiate with him. This information has come from someone very close to Ramsey who was at the Wales game on Friday. Ramsey has obviously had enough and decided to take up the option to carry on playing in Mexico.

Personally I think we have lost our best chance of having a professional football structure put in place and I believe Choo is directly to blame and needs to be outed.

Others might be able to confirm all this?

Correct on Choo trying to screw Rambo over but I don’t think he (Choo) is in danger of losing his job, if a DoF were to come in, as he is (I repeat) Tan’s eyes and ears in Cardiff, so somewhat needed by an owner thousands of miles away

I would love to hear Mehmet Dalman’s views on all of this but he has apparently been marginalised of late. I feel he would have had all this sorted out (maybe even Jones) by now, if given a serious chance

I don't think Choo would lose his job however I do think that he felt he would have less control and therefore was reluctant to give Ramsey the guarantees he required. I think the fact that the news that Ramsey could take up the offer in Mexico is a ploy to force Tans hand and the ball is now firmly back in his court. However whatever happens I honestly don't think Ramsey will end up in Mexico!!

" Coming Weeks "

People losing there shit over Internet rumours ,nothing offical about any of what's put out on this or in the media, certain posters bashing the club over rumours from the media the same media that they've been slagging off all seasons , let's wait and see who is announced officially.

Thank you Wez,

Your friend Tan, it does not matter how long I take to get a manager as long as he is my puppet

How many posts from different posters saying that 100% confirmed as manager in the last few weeks ? , its laughable the rumour mill no one knows the talks going on behind closed doors better off waiting for the offical announcement coz the Internet has got it totally wrong and the so called itk players.

Wes, it’s a roller coaster behind the scenes and even those close are getting pissed off with the ‘almost but not quite’ negotiations. Deals in principle have been made but each one has been scuppered by the final details, in which all have had the goal posts moved

Dalman has been pushed out in recent times, so that leaves only one ‘can carrier’, Vincent Tan (and of course, his negotiator-in chief, Ken Choo

Where else can we now turn to show our disappointment at the was things are and have been for way too long now?

How do you know Dalman has been pushed out in recent times ? If this has come from Dalman or one of his cronies then dont believe a word of it.

Ha! Another one who wants everything ‘on a plate’ but it ain’t gonna happen!

Read the Forum carefully and see what myself and others are saying. It’s all there; going back at least as far as the Erol Bulut appointment (Dalman’s choice, despite Tan not wanting him)

People losing there shit over Internet rumours ,nothing offical about any of what's put out on this or in the media, certain posters bashing the club over rumours from the media the same media that they've been slagging off all seasons , let's wait and see who is announced officially.

Thank you Wez,

Your friend Tan, it does not matter how long I take to get a manager as long as he is my puppet

How many posts from different posters saying that 100% confirmed as manager in the last few weeks ? , its laughable the rumour mill no one knows the talks going on behind closed doors better off waiting for the offical announcement coz the Internet has got it totally wrong and the so called itk players.

Wes, it’s a roller coaster behind the scenes and even those close are getting pissed off with the ‘almost but not quite’ negotiations. Deals in principle have been made but each one has been scuppered by the final details, in which all have had the goal posts moved

Dalman has been pushed out in recent times, so that leaves only one ‘can carrier’, Vincent Tan (and of course, his negotiator-in chief, Ken Choo

Where else can we now turn to show our disappointment at the was things are and have been for way too long now?

How do you know Dalman has been pushed out in recent times ? If this has come from Dalman or one of his cronies then dont believe a word of it.

Ha! Another one who wants everything ‘on a plate’ but it ain’t gonna happen!

Read the Forum carefully and see what myself and others are saying. It’s all there; going back at least as far as the Erol Bulut appointment (Dalman’s choice, despite Tan not wanting him)

Well thanks for the label “oh mightier than thou”

The forum at the moment is full of guess work and speculation, so when you make statements like the ones you have about Dalman then surely I have the right to ask where that has come from.

And if you read the forum carefully you will see that I don’t and I have never trusted Dalman and been proved right on it every single time.

Hence me asking where did this information come from about him taking a back step, because if it has come from his camp so to speak then I cannot believe you are falling for it again. If it hasn’t come from his camp then fair enough, just say so and lay off of the sarcasm.

I honestly didn’t know the three clowns could get any worse but here we are. All we had to do was appoint a sensible manager who has done something in this league before, try and keep our best young players and add a few solid leaders on a free who were available. Of course we may have sold a couple to a club at a higher level and that happens but that was essentially the job.

I have very low expectations of this board by my god they’ve beaten even what I thought they were capable of. Wouldn’t surprise me if Buckingham now tells us to get stuffed and to be honest the Plymouth job is a lot more attractive than this clown show.

Somehow we’ve managed to have a terrible start to this season before it’s even begun which is incredible. No idea who the manager is, no idea what players are staying let alone who is coming in. Honestly I think I’m going to get a season ticket for the women’s team as I’m fed up with this. My daughter and niece are always asking me to take them to watch the women and they enjoy it. I can’t take it anymore I think I’m done.

"We remain on course, all is well!"

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People losing there shit over Internet rumours ,nothing offical about any of what's put out on this or in the media, certain posters bashing the club over rumours from the media the same media that they've been slagging off all seasons , let's wait and see who is announced officially.

Thank you Wez,

Your friend Tan, it does not matter how long I take to get a manager as long as he is my puppet

How many posts from different posters saying that 100% confirmed as manager in the last few weeks ? , its laughable the rumour mill no one knows the talks going on behind closed doors better off waiting for the offical announcement coz the Internet has got it totally wrong and the so called itk players.

Wes, it’s a roller coaster behind the scenes and even those close are getting pissed off with the ‘almost but not quite’ negotiations. Deals in principle have been made but each one has been scuppered by the final details, in which all have had the goal posts moved

Dalman has been pushed out in recent times, so that leaves only one ‘can carrier’, Vincent Tan (and of course, his negotiator-in chief, Ken Choo

Where else can we now turn to show our disappointment at the was things are and have been for way too long now?

How do you know Dalman has been pushed out in recent times ? If this has come from Dalman or one of his cronies then dont believe a word of it.

Ha! Another one who wants everything ‘on a plate’ but it ain’t gonna happen!

Read the Forum carefully and see what myself and others are saying. It’s all there; going back at least as far as the Erol Bulut appointment (Dalman’s choice, despite Tan not wanting him)

Well thanks for the label “oh mightier than thou”

The forum at the moment is full of guess work and speculation, so when you make statements like the ones you have about Dalman then surely I have the right to ask where that has come from.

And if you read the forum carefully you will see that I don’t and I have never trusted Dalman and been proved right on it every single time.

Hence me asking where did this information come from about him taking a back step, because if it has come from his camp so to speak then I cannot believe you are falling for it again. If it hasn’t come from his camp then fair enough, just say so and lay off of the sarcasm.

I don’t think anyone ‘trusts’ Dalman any more than they do Tan but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been marginalised, as opposed to your use of the term ‘taken a step back’, which are two different things

I will never reveal my sources for a multitude of reasons, so that leaves you and your ilk free to believe or not believe, as is your prerogative

One thing I will say to you, is that all is not well at the CCS and it won’t be easily remedied

Think everyone can see all is not well at Cardiff Sven. How can they even sort a preseason trip out with no manager in place?? Wouldn't think the club could amaze us fans anymore the way it's run, but they always seem too it's shocking.

People losing there shit over Internet rumours ,nothing offical about any of what's put out on this or in the media, certain posters bashing the club over rumours from the media the same media that they've been slagging off all seasons , let's wait and see who is announced officially.

Thank you Wez,

Your friend Tan, it does not matter how long I take to get a manager as long as he is my puppet

How many posts from different posters saying that 100% confirmed as manager in the last few weeks ? , its laughable the rumour mill no one knows the talks going on behind closed doors better off waiting for the offical announcement coz the Internet has got it totally wrong and the so called itk players.

Wes, it’s a roller coaster behind the scenes and even those close are getting pissed off with the ‘almost but not quite’ negotiations. Deals in principle have been made but each one has been scuppered by the final details, in which all have had the goal posts moved

Dalman has been pushed out in recent times, so that leaves only one ‘can carrier’, Vincent Tan (and of course, his negotiator-in chief, Ken Choo

Where else can we now turn to show our disappointment at the was things are and have been for way too long now?

How do you know Dalman has been pushed out in recent times ? If this has come from Dalman or one of his cronies then dont believe a word of it.

Ha! Another one who wants everything ‘on a plate’ but it ain’t gonna happen!

Read the Forum carefully and see what myself and others are saying. It’s all there; going back at least as far as the Erol Bulut appointment (Dalman’s choice, despite Tan not wanting him)

Well thanks for the label “oh mightier than thou”

The forum at the moment is full of guess work and speculation, so when you make statements like the ones you have about Dalman then surely I have the right to ask where that has come from.

And if you read the forum carefully you will see that I don’t and I have never trusted Dalman and been proved right on it every single time.

Hence me asking where did this information come from about him taking a back step, because if it has come from his camp so to speak then I cannot believe you are falling for it again. If it hasn’t come from his camp then fair enough, just say so and lay off of the sarcasm.

I don’t think anyone ‘trusts’ Dalman any more than they do Tan but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been marginalised, as opposed to your use of the term ‘taken a step back’, which are two different things

I will never reveal my sources for a multitude of reasons, so that leaves you and your ilk free to believe or not believe, as is your prerogative

One thing I will say to you, is that all is not well at the CCS and it won’t be easily remedied

There you go with your own labelling again “you and your ilk”

As for my use of the term “taken a step back” I’m big enough to apologise if i misread what you had said in another thread, what you actually said was pushed to the side or something of similar ilk.

I’m not asking for names, I was just trying to say don’t believe everything you hear about Dalman, he’s the biggest spin doctor/politician of them all, and after all a lot of the reliable sources have got things wrong over the last week or two.

And I’m also marginally aware of what is going on behind the scenes, and its not as simple as some people seem to think, its not just two parties disagreeing, as you should know if your sources are as good as you believe they are.

People losing there shit over Internet rumours ,nothing offical about any of what's put out on this or in the media, certain posters bashing the club over rumours from the media the same media that they've been slagging off all seasons , let's wait and see who is announced officially.

Thank you Wez,

Your friend Tan, it does not matter how long I take to get a manager as long as he is my puppet

How many posts from different posters saying that 100% confirmed as manager in the last few weeks ? , its laughable the rumour mill no one knows the talks going on behind closed doors better off waiting for the offical announcement coz the Internet has got it totally wrong and the so called itk players.

Wes, it’s a roller coaster behind the scenes and even those close are getting pissed off with the ‘almost but not quite’ negotiations. Deals in principle have been made but each one has been scuppered by the final details, in which all have had the goal posts moved

Dalman has been pushed out in recent times, so that leaves only one ‘can carrier’, Vincent Tan (and of course, his negotiator-in chief, Ken Choo

Where else can we now turn to show our disappointment at the was things are and have been for way too long now?

How do you know Dalman has been pushed out in recent times ? If this has come from Dalman or one of his cronies then dont believe a word of it.

Ha! Another one who wants everything ‘on a plate’ but it ain’t gonna happen!

Read the Forum carefully and see what myself and others are saying. It’s all there; going back at least as far as the Erol Bulut appointment (Dalman’s choice, despite Tan not wanting him)

Well thanks for the label “oh mightier than thou”

The forum at the moment is full of guess work and speculation, so when you make statements like the ones you have about Dalman then surely I have the right to ask where that has come from.

And if you read the forum carefully you will see that I don’t and I have never trusted Dalman and been proved right on it every single time.

Hence me asking where did this information come from about him taking a back step, because if it has come from his camp so to speak then I cannot believe you are falling for it again. If it hasn’t come from his camp then fair enough, just say so and lay off of the sarcasm.

I don’t think anyone ‘trusts’ Dalman any more than they do Tan but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been marginalised, as opposed to your use of the term ‘taken a step back’, which are two different things

I will never reveal my sources for a multitude of reasons, so that leaves you and your ilk free to believe or not believe, as is your prerogative

One thing I will say to you, is that all is not well at the CCS and it won’t be easily remedied

There you go with your own labelling again “you and your ilk”

As for my use of the term “taken a step back” I’m big enough to apologise if i misread what you had said in another thread, what you actually said was pushed to the side or something of similar ilk.

I’m not asking for names, I was just trying to say don’t believe everything you hear about Dalman, he’s the biggest spin doctor/politician of them all, and after all a lot of the reliable sources have got things wrong over the last week or two.

And I’m also marginally aware of what is going on behind the scenes, and its not as simple as some people seem to think, its not just two parties disagreeing, as you should know if your sources are as good as you believe they are.

That’s fair enough but everyone has a ‘label’ with your logic, if you think that’s what I’ve done. Indeed, your logic makes me a ‘labeller’, does it not?

I’m not going to get too deeply into your choice to disbelieve everything you hear. As I said before, that is your prerogative and one I respect

What I will ask though, is how do you know that the information provided by those you refer to wasn’t correct at the time of posting? I ask because I know we would have had a new manager by now, if Ken Choo (presumably led by Tan) hadn’t messed it up

What Tan has to realise, but probably won't, is that we are not the only ones looking for a new manager. Plymouth and Notts County are too and probably have the same list as we do. If we don't act soon and they do then we may have to make do with a choice of manager, again!

People losing there shit over Internet rumours ,nothing offical about any of what's put out on this or in the media, certain posters bashing the club over rumours from the media the same media that they've been slagging off all seasons , let's wait and see who is announced officially.

Thank you Wez,

Your friend Tan, it does not matter how long I take to get a manager as long as he is my puppet

How many posts from different posters saying that 100% confirmed as manager in the last few weeks ? , its laughable the rumour mill no one knows the talks going on behind closed doors better off waiting for the offical announcement coz the Internet has got it totally wrong and the so called itk players.

Wes, it’s a roller coaster behind the scenes and even those close are getting pissed off with the ‘almost but not quite’ negotiations. Deals in principle have been made but each one has been scuppered by the final details, in which all have had the goal posts moved

Dalman has been pushed out in recent times, so that leaves only one ‘can carrier’, Vincent Tan (and of course, his negotiator-in chief, Ken Choo

Where else can we now turn to show our disappointment at the was things are and have been for way too long now?

How do you know Dalman has been pushed out in recent times ? If this has come from Dalman or one of his cronies then dont believe a word of it.

Ha! Another one who wants everything ‘on a plate’ but it ain’t gonna happen!

Read the Forum carefully and see what myself and others are saying. It’s all there; going back at least as far as the Erol Bulut appointment (Dalman’s choice, despite Tan not wanting him)

Well thanks for the label “oh mightier than thou”

The forum at the moment is full of guess work and speculation, so when you make statements like the ones you have about Dalman then surely I have the right to ask where that has come from.

And if you read the forum carefully you will see that I don’t and I have never trusted Dalman and been proved right on it every single time.

Hence me asking where did this information come from about him taking a back step, because if it has come from his camp so to speak then I cannot believe you are falling for it again. If it hasn’t come from his camp then fair enough, just say so and lay off of the sarcasm.

I don’t think anyone ‘trusts’ Dalman any more than they do Tan but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been marginalised, as opposed to your use of the term ‘taken a step back’, which are two different things

I will never reveal my sources for a multitude of reasons, so that leaves you and your ilk free to believe or not believe, as is your prerogative

One thing I will say to you, is that all is not well at the CCS and it won’t be easily remedied

There you go with your own labelling again “you and your ilk”

As for my use of the term “taken a step back” I’m big enough to apologise if i misread what you had said in another thread, what you actually said was pushed to the side or something of similar ilk.

I’m not asking for names, I was just trying to say don’t believe everything you hear about Dalman, he’s the biggest spin doctor/politician of them all, and after all a lot of the reliable sources have got things wrong over the last week or two.

And I’m also marginally aware of what is going on behind the scenes, and its not as simple as some people seem to think, its not just two parties disagreeing, as you should know if your sources are as good as you believe they are.

That’s fair enough but everyone has a ‘label’ with your logic, if you think that’s what I’ve done. Indeed, your logic makes me a ‘labeller’, does it not?

I’m not going to get too deeply into your choice to disbelieve everything you hear. As I said before, that is your prerogative and one I respect

What I will ask though, is how do you know that the information provided by those you refer to wasn’t correct at the time of posting? I ask because I know we would have had a new manager by now, if Ken Choo (presumably led by Tan) hadn’t messed it up

I never said they weren’t all true at the time, I categorically know one of them was correct at the time, what nobody knew at that point though were the specifics of the deal, and unfortunately those specifics is exactly what has scuppered that deal (or at least the person delivering them did) - so far.

What I heard today was Tan & Choo have had lengthy talks with Steve Morison about a come back, Dalman doesn't want to know and is staying in the background about the whole saga.