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Mon Jun 02, 2025 7:10 pm
We may as well ask Giggs if Cardiff boys who were good at football is the only criteria.
He has achieved far more as a footballer, managed more games, got his badges, actually won a game as a manager, runs a L2 club
In fact as i was writing this, it sounds better every word.
I am not serious but Ramsey has only played 42 games and 5 goals more than Giggs for city
Mon Jun 02, 2025 7:15 pm
llan bluebird wrote:We may as well ask Giggs if Cardiff boys who were good at football is the only criteria.
He has achieved far more as a footballer, managed more games, got his badges, actually won a game as a manager, runs a L2 club
In fact as i was writing this, it sounds better every word.
I am not serious but Ramsey has only played 42 games and 5 goals more than Giggs for city
I’d be more than happy with giggs.
Mon Jun 02, 2025 7:19 pm
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:We may as well ask Giggs if Cardiff boys who were good at football is the only criteria.
He has achieved far more as a footballer, managed more games, got his badges, actually won a game as a manager, runs a L2 club
In fact as i was writing this, it sounds better every word.
I am not serious but Ramsey has only played 42 games and 5 goals more than Giggs for city
I’d be more than happy with giggs.
The morality police would go nuts!!!!!
Mon Jun 02, 2025 8:25 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:montyblue wrote:God I hope not Ramsay not the time to experiment with yet another rookie managers.
Put the flags out Monty boy, I actually agree with you for once!
Hoping this rumour doesn’t happen.
F.ck me yes
Put the flags out.
Mon Jun 02, 2025 8:35 pm
Massive gamble if they go for Ramsey. We’re not in the position to take such a big gamble as if it all goes wrong we could be in another relegation battle.
Maybe Buckingham with Ramsey in a player/assistant role? Could give Ramsey good experience but without all the weight on his shoulders. Of course a lot would depend on what wage Ramsey would be on
Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:17 pm
Any managerial appointment is a gamble, particularly at the level we now are. We’re not going to get a top experienced manager or an upcoming manager with a proven track record.
For me I don’t see Ramsey as any more of a risk than Nathan Jones (ask a Stoke or Southampton fan !!) or some of the others mentioned.
Unlike Hudson, Morison, etc., Ramsey has played at the absolute top level in 5 different countries and played at major championships for his country.
Maybe, just maybe, we should back one of our own. He wanted to come back to the club despite bigger money offers. He’s done his badges and has a reputation for being a real thinker about the game.
In many respects he’s similar to Bellamy and he ain’t doing too badly in his first managerial appointment even if it is at international level.
Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:43 pm
Maybe this is another thread
My 23 year old daughter has had a season ticket since she was 9 (2010) and doesn't see the hype or aura surrounding Rambo.
She can't understand why my mates and I are so gushing over him. When he was poor early season, we made excuses. We'd go nuts with any other 32 year old top earner who only played 21 times in 2 seasons.
Is it because he ticks all the boxes, has anyone else had the same profile
Local lad
Academy graduate
Wales hero
He has only played 43 games and scored 5 goals for us.
Why is he so revered?
Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:46 pm
Been away from the forum today and just catching up.
Must say I'm a little bit surprised that so many are positive about Ramsey.
The general consensus seems to have been we need someone with experience of League One at least, certainly a manager who has at least managed a decent amount of games.
I don't see why we should change those rules for Ramsey.
I did think we were improved in the last three games but not enough to give him the job.
I'm also wary about having a player-manager. Rarely works and there's a good reason you don't see many.
Appointing him is the romantic option, but not the right one in my view.
Mon Jun 02, 2025 10:14 pm
llan bluebird wrote:We may as well ask Giggs if Cardiff boys who were good at football is the only criteria.
He has achieved far more as a footballer, managed more games, got his badges, actually won a game as a manager, runs a L2 club
In fact as i was writing this, it sounds better every word.
I am not serious but Ramsey has only played 42 games and 5 goals more than Giggs for city
By this time tomorrow - Giggs will be the new Fav
Mon Jun 02, 2025 11:49 pm
What about his world cup.
What about his Vodka business ventre " Tens Spirits”
Massive risk in my opinion he has no experience.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:57 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:montyblue wrote:God I hope not Ramsay not the time to experiment with yet another rookie managers.
Put the flags out Monty boy, I actually agree with you for once!
Hoping this rumour doesn’t happen.
How many more gambles is tan going to take a manager with 3 games in total of experience in management cheap cheap cheap. Awful
Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:30 pm
Would be great for this to happen, but what if the team didn't get the results starting off, didn't see any improvement in the football when he was in charge last season and before long the crowd would be booing the team them him. Wouldn't want that to happen to a great player.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:20 pm
The problem Ramsey faces is that he's become a victim of our total failure with past inexperienced appointments. People now assume that if you have no managerial experience, you're simply not capable of doing the job.
Before I retired, I saw numerous cases in the workplace where experienced managers were brought in—and to be honest, when we promoted from within, the so-called inexperienced managers often turned out to be far better than those with experience on paper.
I’ve also noticed that quite a few posters on this site who are now loudly saying “please not Ramsey” were the same ones who were championing both Bulut and Riza at the start of last season. And we all know how that turned out.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:25 pm
rontom wrote:The problem Ramsey faces is that he's become a victim of our total failure with past inexperienced appointments. People now assume that if you have no managerial experience, you're simply not capable of doing the job.
Before I retired, I saw numerous cases in the workplace where experienced managers were brought in—and to be honest, when we promoted from within, the so-called inexperienced managers often turned out to be far better than those with experience on paper.
I’ve also noticed that quite a few posters on this site who are now loudly saying “please not Ramsey” were the same ones who were championing both Bulut and Riza at the start of last season. And we all know how that turned out.
Fans sticking by the manager we had does not mean that makes Ramsey is a good appointment.
I know it's a novel approach but some of us like to give managers more than half an hour.
Your problem is you think if someone comes from the academy then they must be amazing - as a manager or a coach.
An inexperienced manager can work - but not with our setup.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:06 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:rontom wrote:The problem Ramsey faces is that he's become a victim of our total failure with past inexperienced appointments. People now assume that if you have no managerial experience, you're simply not capable of doing the job.
Before I retired, I saw numerous cases in the workplace where experienced managers were brought in—and to be honest, when we promoted from within, the so-called inexperienced managers often turned out to be far better than those with experience on paper.
I’ve also noticed that quite a few posters on this site who are now loudly saying “please not Ramsey” were the same ones who were championing both Bulut and Riza at the start of last season. And we all know how that turned out.
Fans sticking by the manager we had does not mean that makes Ramsey is a good appointment.
I know it's a novel approach but some of us like to give managers more than half an hour.
Your problem is you think if someone comes from the academy then they must be amazing - as a manager or a coach.
An inexperienced manager can work - but not with our setup.
But it was not a case of STICKING by the manager, there was a post after post saying give him a new contract this time last year, and then it was the same with Riza.
But then, novel approach or not, why is Ramsey not suitable after a bit more than half an hour, just three games, with one of the most unbalanced sides we have ever had?
I can assure you that my problem is not that I think they come from the academy, that they are amazing, but I do believe that poor past choices should not mean that the next academy candidate for the position of manager should automatically be classed as unsuitable.
An inexperienced manager is just as likely to fail as an experienced manager is; there is no guarantee with any of them with our system or any other system
And by the way in which of my posts gave you the impression I had a problem?
Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:29 pm
I thought that Rambo did not want the job but wanted to carry on playing ???
Along with Tan paying money to a company to find a new manager ???
Wed Jun 04, 2025 8:14 am
It would be like our club to choose someone already at the club to manage it.
I personally would not have him as manager since he plans to play for Wales.
Then you get to the fact that he needs gametime to keep up his fitness for Wales and whenever he plays for Cardiff he gets injured so i think if he wants to get his fitness up i think he should go to america or a team that is not intense in training and playing time or style.
If he steps foot on the grass in League 1 for us then he will be risking getting injured for a longtime again.
Wed Jun 04, 2025 8:36 am
Sam ReaN wrote:It would be like our club to choose someone already at the club to manage it.
I personally would not have him as manager since he plans to play for Wales.
Then you get to the fact that he needs gametime to keep up his fitness for Wales and whenever he plays for Cardiff he gets injured so i think if he wants to get his fitness up i think he should go to america or a team that is not intense in training and playing time or style.
If he steps foot on the grass in League 1 for us then he will be risking getting injured for a longtime again.
Sam
No one is going to touch him, only a club that believes in fairy godmothers and handsome princes did. Since he left Arsenal
19/20 - 24 games
20/21 - 22
21/22 - 10 (inc 7 in Scotland)
22/23 - 27 (Nice)
23/24 - 13
24/25- 8
He has played 7 full games in his time with us. Father time is a bitch and he is a CM and was in the trenches
It appears to me he wants the penny and the bun. He wants to play for Wales in the WC, he needs to play, but his body lets him down, he wants to stay at home (Cardiff), he wants to be a manager, he wants to be an entrepreneur.
I don't know, half of those things don't align
Make him Cardiff DoF, that makes more sense to me. He can give himself a playing contract on whatever wages someone with his appearance record deserves.
Another thing, if he doesn't get the job, would you want him to be part of the group? Bulut knew his replacement had been parachuted into his management team, and God knows why they had such a poor start.
Admittedly its a tricky situation for him and the club
Wed Jun 04, 2025 2:51 pm
rontom wrote:The problem Ramsey faces is that he's become a victim of our total failure with past inexperienced appointments. People now assume that if you have no managerial experience, you're simply not capable of doing the job.
Before I retired, I saw numerous cases in the workplace where experienced managers were brought in—and to be honest, when we promoted from within, the so-called inexperienced managers often turned out to be far better than those with experience on paper.
I’ve also noticed that quite a few posters on this site who are now loudly saying “please not Ramsey” were the same ones who were championing both Bulut and Riza at the start of last season. And we all know how that turned out.
Warnock or ramsey to get you out of league 1 I know which i would choose not that I am calling for that but a comparison with a total of 3 games in management or over 30 years with record amount of promotions
That's why I do not want a rookie same reason I did not want riza from day 1.
Wed Jun 04, 2025 2:55 pm
montyblue wrote:rontom wrote:The problem Ramsey faces is that he's become a victim of our total failure with past inexperienced appointments. People now assume that if you have no managerial experience, you're simply not capable of doing the job.
Before I retired, I saw numerous cases in the workplace where experienced managers were brought in—and to be honest, when we promoted from within, the so-called inexperienced managers often turned out to be far better than those with experience on paper.
I’ve also noticed that quite a few posters on this site who are now loudly saying “please not Ramsey” were the same ones who were championing both Bulut and Riza at the start of last season. And we all know how that turned out.
Warnock or ramsey to get you out of league 1 I know which i would choose not that I am calling for that but a comparison with a total of 3 games in management or over 30 years with record amount of promotions
That's why I do not want a rookie same reason I did not want riza from day 1.
Plus
Ramsey might have contacts but we will not be signing players from arsenal because tan will want Billy Williams from Barry town
Wed Jun 04, 2025 3:13 pm
Rambo would be a massive gamble in my eyes!
Inexperience!!
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