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Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 3:44 pm

One of the things I enjoy about this message board is that we have a diverse range of supporters.

Some of us used to work for the club, myself as a photographer, others have significant shareholdings at the club. Others have been around long enough to know people on the inside and there are a fair few supporters who know players and connections within the club or have good sources of information from other areas.

And because of that many of us occasionally get clips of information that we can either keep to ourself or share with our fellow supporters - but that comes with the danger of being shot down by fellow supporters.

Football, unfortunately, is one of those industries where information changes daily. You only have to look at the last day of the transfer window to realise that.

Now from a personal point of view I would much rather supporters share their information on here - Just as long as us supporters appreciate that only 10% of the information is likely to come true.

I don't subscribe to the belief that fellow supporters should be ridiculed because something doesn't transpire.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 3:45 pm

SB 1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:He won’t last the season and Plymouth will smash the league under Des.


Are you really rating Buckingham over Jones?


For some bizarre reason there seems to be an agenda on this forum to get Buckingham in despite his record and experience being totally incomparable with Jones. Buckingham (or Des to his friends) took Oxford up via the play offs finishing 15 points behind automatic spot. When he took as manager they were already clear in an automatic spot, with 35 points in 16 games. Form after that was mediocre and without that flying start under Liam Manning they would have ended up mid table

And to answer the question on the post, I think he would be daft to come here. Expectations would be too high.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 3:56 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
maccydee wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
birdy1964 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So, it appears that the club have switched all attention to gambling everything on Nathan Jones - having been on the verge of appointing someone else.

I'm not one of those who are huge fans of Jones. I find him cringeworthy to watch, everything has to be about him. The style of play is also not great.

But, and to be fair this is the big thing, he has a track record of getting out of this league - including very recently with Charlton.

He's also hugely popular with the majority of our fans it seems. So I can see why the club are pursuing so much.


But what about from his point of view?

He is apparently not happy because the budget that Charlton have given him is quite small.

He has also been vocal about being a City fan and said he'd love the job one day.

But I also don't see him getting a big transfer budget with us - but especially if we have to pay £1m to release him from his contract.



So these are his options:


- Stay as Charlton manager in the Championship. He'll have a low budget but he'd be managing at the higher level

- Come to the club he's always wanted to manage. Funds would probably still be low but probably keep the majority of the squad that is there. Would be huge pressure on him to get promoted. He'd be working for an owner who it is known can be difficult to work with


You also have to bear in mind that Jones is 52 - he may not get a better opportunity to manage us.

Club hope to make the appointment on Monday so an interesting 24hrs ahead.

Only yesterday you said from your reliable source that Des Buckingham had the job, now today its Nathan Jones, christ who will it be tomorrow, the only reliable source you have is HP sauce or is it Daddies sauce, couldn't make it up what a first class plonker you really are.


Where here have I said it's Nathan Jones?? I'm purely going off the media reports.

I did say that Buckingham was offered the job and accepted - I stand by it because I trust and believe the source.

I also said the formalities were to be sorted.

Something has clearly changed with Jones' availability.

But not going to bother replying to people like you and as a moderator, have made the decision to give you a warning because of you using language that can be seen as a personal insult.

We don't accept that on here.


If the job was offered and accepted and then Cardiff pulled back, that’s pretty poor form that.


There was a verbal agreement with Buckingham but then the Jones availability changed.

Obviously no contracts signed with Buckingham so the club had the chance to pursue Jones.

My big worry is that Buckingham gets tired of waiting so goes somewhere else and Jones stays at Charlton.

So we're back at square one.

Let's hope it doesn't come to that.


Sort of hope it does.

I think the Jones stuff is a non factor and it’s Des and it will be announced Monday.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 3:58 pm

maccydee wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
maccydee wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
birdy1964 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So, it appears that the club have switched all attention to gambling everything on Nathan Jones - having been on the verge of appointing someone else.

I'm not one of those who are huge fans of Jones. I find him cringeworthy to watch, everything has to be about him. The style of play is also not great.

But, and to be fair this is the big thing, he has a track record of getting out of this league - including very recently with Charlton.

He's also hugely popular with the majority of our fans it seems. So I can see why the club are pursuing so much.


But what about from his point of view?

He is apparently not happy because the budget that Charlton have given him is quite small.

He has also been vocal about being a City fan and said he'd love the job one day.

But I also don't see him getting a big transfer budget with us - but especially if we have to pay £1m to release him from his contract.



So these are his options:


- Stay as Charlton manager in the Championship. He'll have a low budget but he'd be managing at the higher level

- Come to the club he's always wanted to manage. Funds would probably still be low but probably keep the majority of the squad that is there. Would be huge pressure on him to get promoted. He'd be working for an owner who it is known can be difficult to work with


You also have to bear in mind that Jones is 52 - he may not get a better opportunity to manage us.

Club hope to make the appointment on Monday so an interesting 24hrs ahead.

Only yesterday you said from your reliable source that Des Buckingham had the job, now today its Nathan Jones, christ who will it be tomorrow, the only reliable source you have is HP sauce or is it Daddies sauce, couldn't make it up what a first class plonker you really are.


Where here have I said it's Nathan Jones?? I'm purely going off the media reports.

I did say that Buckingham was offered the job and accepted - I stand by it because I trust and believe the source.

I also said the formalities were to be sorted.

Something has clearly changed with Jones' availability.

But not going to bother replying to people like you and as a moderator, have made the decision to give you a warning because of you using language that can be seen as a personal insult.

We don't accept that on here.


If the job was offered and accepted and then Cardiff pulled back, that’s pretty poor form that.


There was a verbal agreement with Buckingham but then the Jones availability changed.

Obviously no contracts signed with Buckingham so the club had the chance to pursue Jones.

My big worry is that Buckingham gets tired of waiting so goes somewhere else and Jones stays at Charlton.

So we're back at square one.

Let's hope it doesn't come to that.


I think the Jones stuff is a non factor and it’s Des and it will be announced Monday.


Hope you're right about that :thumbright:

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 4:25 pm

birdy1964 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So, it appears that the club have switched all attention to gambling everything on Nathan Jones - having been on the verge of appointing someone else.

I'm not one of those who are huge fans of Jones. I find him cringeworthy to watch, everything has to be about him. The style of play is also not great.

But, and to be fair this is the big thing, he has a track record of getting out of this league - including very recently with Charlton.

He's also hugely popular with the majority of our fans it seems. So I can see why the club are pursuing so much.


But what about from his point of view?

He is apparently not happy because the budget that Charlton have given him is quite small.

He has also been vocal about being a City fan and said he'd love the job one day.

But I also don't see him getting a big transfer budget with us - but especially if we have to pay £1m to release him from his contract.



So these are his options:


- Stay as Charlton manager in the Championship. He'll have a low budget but he'd be managing at the higher level

- Come to the club he's always wanted to manage. Funds would probably still be low but probably keep the majority of the squad that is there. Would be huge pressure on him to get promoted. He'd be working for an owner who it is known can be difficult to work with


You also have to bear in mind that Jones is 52 - he may not get a better opportunity to manage us.

Club hope to make the appointment on Monday so an interesting 24hrs ahead.

Only yesterday you said from your reliable source that Des Buckingham had the job, now today its Nathan Jones, christ who will it be tomorrow, the only reliable source you have is HP sauce or is it Daddies sauce, couldn't make it up what a first class plonker you really are.

Not sure where you ‘get off’ with that rhetoric but it does you no credit

If you want to ‘have a pop’, please read the posts first and then draw your conclusions in a manner that might better fit your angst mood

Just to be clear, Worcester said (correctly according to my information) that Des Buckingham was the chosen manager subject to contractual agreements

Then Nathan Jones name was thrown into the ring somewhat unexpectedly (as reported by Forever Blue not Worcester) and that has caused a stutter that needs to be resolved quickly

The words are there; it’s the interpretation that is awry in your case :ayatollah:

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 6:48 pm

maccydee wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
birdy1964 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So, it appears that the club have switched all attention to gambling everything on Nathan Jones - having been on the verge of appointing someone else.

I'm not one of those who are huge fans of Jones. I find him cringeworthy to watch, everything has to be about him. The style of play is also not great.

But, and to be fair this is the big thing, he has a track record of getting out of this league - including very recently with Charlton.

He's also hugely popular with the majority of our fans it seems. So I can see why the club are pursuing so much.


But what about from his point of view?

He is apparently not happy because the budget that Charlton have given him is quite small.

He has also been vocal about being a City fan and said he'd love the job one day.

But I also don't see him getting a big transfer budget with us - but especially if we have to pay £1m to release him from his contract.



So these are his options:


- Stay as Charlton manager in the Championship. He'll have a low budget but he'd be managing at the higher level

- Come to the club he's always wanted to manage. Funds would probably still be low but probably keep the majority of the squad that is there. Would be huge pressure on him to get promoted. He'd be working for an owner who it is known can be difficult to work with


You also have to bear in mind that Jones is 52 - he may not get a better opportunity to manage us.

Club hope to make the appointment on Monday so an interesting 24hrs ahead.

Only yesterday you said from your reliable source that Des Buckingham had the job, now today its Nathan Jones, christ who will it be tomorrow, the only reliable source you have is HP sauce or is it Daddies sauce, couldn't make it up what a first class plonker you really are.


Where here have I said it's Nathan Jones?? I'm purely going off the media reports.

I did say that Buckingham was offered the job and accepted - I stand by it because I trust and believe the source.

I also said the formalities were to be sorted.

Something has clearly changed with Jones' availability.

But not going to bother replying to people like you and as a moderator, have made the decision to give you a warning because of you using language that can be seen as a personal insult.

We don't accept that on here.


If the job was offered and accepted and then Cardiff pulled back, that’s pretty poor form that.


Stinks if you ask me, an offer is an offer. He's either good enough or he isn't and obviously he ticked all or at least most of the boxes thought he had a deal now he's suddenly been gazumped, that's obviously if you're convinced with previous postings on here. Shite organisation by CCFC as usual.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 7:04 pm

CF64 BLUE wrote:
maccydee wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
birdy1964 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So, it appears that the club have switched all attention to gambling everything on Nathan Jones - having been on the verge of appointing someone else.

I'm not one of those who are huge fans of Jones. I find him cringeworthy to watch, everything has to be about him. The style of play is also not great.

But, and to be fair this is the big thing, he has a track record of getting out of this league - including very recently with Charlton.

He's also hugely popular with the majority of our fans it seems. So I can see why the club are pursuing so much.


But what about from his point of view?

He is apparently not happy because the budget that Charlton have given him is quite small.

He has also been vocal about being a City fan and said he'd love the job one day.

But I also don't see him getting a big transfer budget with us - but especially if we have to pay £1m to release him from his contract.



So these are his options:


- Stay as Charlton manager in the Championship. He'll have a low budget but he'd be managing at the higher level

- Come to the club he's always wanted to manage. Funds would probably still be low but probably keep the majority of the squad that is there. Would be huge pressure on him to get promoted. He'd be working for an owner who it is known can be difficult to work with


You also have to bear in mind that Jones is 52 - he may not get a better opportunity to manage us.

Club hope to make the appointment on Monday so an interesting 24hrs ahead.

Only yesterday you said from your reliable source that Des Buckingham had the job, now today its Nathan Jones, christ who will it be tomorrow, the only reliable source you have is HP sauce or is it Daddies sauce, couldn't make it up what a first class plonker you really are.


Where here have I said it's Nathan Jones?? I'm purely going off the media reports.

I did say that Buckingham was offered the job and accepted - I stand by it because I trust and believe the source.

I also said the formalities were to be sorted.

Something has clearly changed with Jones' availability.

But not going to bother replying to people like you and as a moderator, have made the decision to give you a warning because of you using language that can be seen as a personal insult.

We don't accept that on here.


If the job was offered and accepted and then Cardiff pulled back, that’s pretty poor form that.


Stinks if you ask me, an offer is an offer. He's either good enough or he isn't and obviously he ticked all or at least most of the boxes thought he had a deal now he's suddenly been gazumped, that's obviously if you're convinced with previous postings on here. Shite organisation by CCFC as usual.


I wouldn't get worked up over an interpretation of a rumour. Nothing is concrete

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 7:05 pm

JJ1927 wrote:
SB 1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:He won’t last the season and Plymouth will smash the league under Des.


Are you really rating Buckingham over Jones?


For some bizarre reason there seems to be an agenda on this forum to get Buckingham in despite his record and experience being totally incomparable with Jones. Buckingham (or Des to his friends) took Oxford up via the play offs finishing 15 points behind automatic spot. When he took as manager they were already clear in an automatic spot, with 35 points in 16 games. Form after that was mediocre and without that flying start under Liam Manning they would have ended up mid table

And to answer the question on the post, I think he would be daft to come here. Expectations would be too high.


Taking in to consideration all the information you have brought to our attention why did the club offer him the job? Most of us would suggest that the hierarchy at our club are pretty incompetent at the best of times but apparently they were given a list of the best options and he was on it I assume, so obviously he has certain qualities that were impressive enough for him to be recommended to our board and owner. If he was consequently offered the job on the basis of that and a good interview it's pretty poor for our club to renage on it, but this is Cardiff City.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 7:07 pm

This verbal agreement with Buckingham if you know this is pretty piss poor and totally unprofessional to state this from the club and you. Stop winding everyone one up and stop the bullshit.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Sun Jun 01, 2025 10:00 pm

The same as Malky - Compo was paid then ( If you love something that much ) ;)

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:32 am

How is it we are even talking with Nathan Jones??

He’s under contract with Charlton so we have to get their permission to even speak to him about the job

So either we have made an official approach but neither club has made this public knowledge or we have made an illegal attempt to poach another team’s manager ??

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 6:40 am

maccydee wrote:He won’t last the season and Plymouth will smash the league under Des.



He won't be at Plymouth, It's out of Wilshire, Wagnor, Evatt, so far.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 6:43 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:So, it appears that the club have switched all attention to gambling everything on Nathan Jones - having been on the verge of appointing someone else.

I'm not one of those who are huge fans of Jones. I find him cringeworthy to watch, everything has to be about him. The style of play is also not great.

But, and to be fair this is the big thing, he has a track record of getting out of this league - including very recently with Charlton.

He's also hugely popular with the majority of our fans it seems. So I can see why the club are pursuing so much.


But what about from his point of view?

He is apparently not happy because the budget that Charlton have given him is quite small.

He has also been vocal about being a City fan and said he'd love the job one day.

But I also don't see him getting a big transfer budget with us - but especially if we have to pay £1m to release him from his contract.



So these are his options:


- Stay as Charlton manager in the Championship. He'll have a low budget but he'd be managing at the higher level

- Come to the club he's always wanted to manage. Funds would probably still be low but probably keep the majority of the squad that is there. Would be huge pressure on him to get promoted. He'd be working for an owner who it is known can be difficult to work with


You also have to bear in mind that Jones is 52 - he may not get a better opportunity to manage us.

Club hope to make the appointment on Monday so an interesting 24hrs ahead.


If we want him, and can pay the compo, he'll come for sure.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 6:52 am

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How is it we are even talking with Nathan Jones??

He’s under contract with Charlton so we have to get their permission to even speak to him about the job

So either we have made an official approach but neither club has made this public knowledge or we have made an illegal attempt to poach another team’s manager ??


Which happens every day.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 7:42 am

My view on this one has been consistent:

Better wages @ City.

Perfect ( timing) for his home town dream job.

Fresh start in lower league.

If Charlton falter into relegation zone will they sack him .

Would he have longer tennacy and time at City .??

It seems to be a canny waiting game

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 7:58 am

New Day Rising wrote:If Charlton falter into relegation zone will they sack him .


This is actually a very good point. Not many managers from 10th down in the Championship end the season in a job. From memory, there were 2 left in and around the Riza sacking.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 8:28 am

SB 1927 wrote:
New Day Rising wrote:If Charlton falter into relegation zone will they sack him .


This is actually a very good point. Not many managers from 10th down in the Championship end the season in a job. From memory, there were 2 left in and around the Riza sacking.



Agreed excellent point, we are a far better propersition.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:26 am

Ive sent my view to Mr Jones .

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:41 am

Think it’s a bit of a stunt to push Season ticket sales and we will end with Buckingham or Ramsey

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:59 am

Bluebina wrote:
SB 1927 wrote:
New Day Rising wrote:If Charlton falter into relegation zone will they sack him .


This is actually a very good point. Not many managers from 10th down in the Championship end the season in a job. From memory, there were 2 left in and around the Riza sacking.



Agreed excellent point, we are a far better propersition.


But there will be a lot of pressure on him if he came to City. We don’t even know yet what will happen with the squad with the likes of Salech etc. If Jones comes and then we lose key players and at Christmas we’re mid table, I think there will be huge pressure on him from the fans and the board.

Re: What would you do if you were Nathan Jones?

Mon Jun 02, 2025 10:07 am

thomas9990 wrote:Think it’s a bit of a stunt to push Season ticket sales and we will end with Buckingham or Ramsey



Me too, i think it mutually beneficial to both Jones in terms of giving me more cash for players and city for season tickets