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Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 1:51 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:I think some are being a little harsh about Barry-Murphy.

But I think this is a risk too far, wouldn't be my choice.


Quite a few on numerous threads are treating every name anyone mentions as having already become our manager & as far as I can make out we have at least 3 new managers. As someone else said it's exhausting, people going off the deep end about win rates, relegations etc. like the board has already employed whoever the last person who's name is mentioned.

I have no confidence that the 3 clowns & Tan in particular can make the right choice but FFS this slagging off managers of managers who are just mentioned is a little OTT.

Like Worcester said, a simple "not for me" and even add some reasons but some of these reactions are ridiculous.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 2:20 pm

YM Bluebird wrote:
Blue Valley wrote:I don’t want to take a chance on another manager with no experience in the league we are in.

This next manager could be the difference in promotion or plummeting down the leagues.


I'm not saying that Barry-Murphy would be my choice but according to your statement above Ipswich were wong to appoint Kieran McKenna as an inexperienced manager when they were in League 1 and also Birmingham were wong to give Chris Davies his first managerial role last season?


No im saying we have a better chance of succeeding with an experienced manager, history proves it.

Of course we can all be pedantic and point out times that this isn’t the case.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 2:37 pm

Liam Rosenior 4th fav? If there’s any sniff that he’s interested or been approached then I would like us to go all out and get him in. Probably just the bookies chucking random names in at random odds though unfortunately.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 3:22 pm

Would be a terrible appointment, he's had no success managing in the real world.

He had success with Man City's development team, so what? Man City poach all the best youngsters, including a few of ours over recent years. It's impossible to fail.

I want a manager with a proven track record of success, not someone who only has relegation on his CV in the real world of professional football.

Would be a disastrous appointment.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 4:24 pm

Another coach, when we need a manager, will they ever learn ?

In modern day football folklore, if the Man city tea lady wants a new job she'll be in line for head of the Ritz with some of our fans. Just look at the thirsts she has quenched.

Man city academy coach means absolutely nothing, except he is another youth coach like Riza.

He must be the fourth short price favourite, so i am holding out.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 5:54 pm

A few people have mentioned Chris Davies at Birmingham as an unknown who has done well.

Seriously I could've taken Birmingham up the amount of money they spent.

Why have we gone away from a style that brought us success? I'm sick of all these teams trying to play football when they're shit at it. Southampton in the premier league are a prime example trying to play out from the back against the top teams and they've been murdered.

The managers we've appointed in the last few seasons I honestly don't know what our style was. It was all off the cuff and hope a player creates a moment of magic.

I'm telling you now in this league if you don't win the physical battle you get done. We need leaders and players who are willing to work and then once you win that battle you can play.

If we're going down the youngsters route which I think will happen if Murphy is appointed we're in for a hard long season.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 6:19 pm

D.A.C. wrote:A few people have mentioned Chris Davies at Birmingham as an unknown who has done well.

Seriously I could've taken Birmingham up the amount of money they spent.

Why have we gone away from a style that brought us success? I'm sick of all these teams trying to play football when they're shit at it. Southampton in the premier league are a prime example trying to play out from the back against the top teams and they've been murdered.

The managers we've appointed in the last few seasons I honestly don't know what our style was. It was all off the cuff and hope a player creates a moment of magic.

I'm telling you now in this league if you don't win the physical battle you get done. We need leaders and players who are willing to work and then once you win that battle you can play.

If we're going down the youngsters route which I think will happen if Murphy is appointed we're in for a hard long season.



What about Sunderland? He had Little to no experience didn't spend lot of money either! Mckenna Ipswich no experience......It's not about experience or no experience it's about getting it right on the playing side and good team behind manager? We dont do the latter with exception of warnock.... Will have to see if what dalman said on this subject is carried out and we dont end up with just a coach and he's given purse ect as assistants

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 6:21 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
D.A.C. wrote:A few people have mentioned Chris Davies at Birmingham as an unknown who has done well.

Seriously I could've taken Birmingham up the amount of money they spent.

Why have we gone away from a style that brought us success? I'm sick of all these teams trying to play football when they're shit at it. Southampton in the premier league are a prime example trying to play out from the back against the top teams and they've been murdered.

The managers we've appointed in the last few seasons I honestly don't know what our style was. It was all off the cuff and hope a player creates a moment of magic.

I'm telling you now in this league if you don't win the physical battle you get done. We need leaders and players who are willing to work and then once you win that battle you can play.

If we're going down the youngsters route which I think will happen if Murphy is appointed we're in for a hard long season.



What about Sunderland? He had Little to no experience didn't spend lot of money either! Mckenna Ipswich no experience......It's not about experience or no experience it's about getting it right on the playing side and good team behind manager? We dont do the latter with exception of warnock.... Will have to see if what dalman said on this subject is carried out and we dont end up with just a coach and he's given purse ect as assistants


Some good solid points raised there.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 6:44 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
D.A.C. wrote:A few people have mentioned Chris Davies at Birmingham as an unknown who has done well.

Seriously I could've taken Birmingham up the amount of money they spent.

Why have we gone away from a style that brought us success? I'm sick of all these teams trying to play football when they're shit at it. Southampton in the premier league are a prime example trying to play out from the back against the top teams and they've been murdered.

The managers we've appointed in the last few seasons I honestly don't know what our style was. It was all off the cuff and hope a player creates a moment of magic.

I'm telling you now in this league if you don't win the physical battle you get done. We need leaders and players who are willing to work and then once you win that battle you can play.

If we're going down the youngsters route which I think will happen if Murphy is appointed we're in for a hard long season.



What about Sunderland? He had Little to no experience didn't spend lot of money either! Mckenna Ipswich no experience......It's not about experience or no experience it's about getting it right on the playing side and good team behind manager? We dont do the latter with exception of warnock.... Will have to see if what dalman said on this subject is carried out and we dont end up with just a coach and he's given purse ect as assistants


Some good solid points raised there.


I get what people say about us previously but football as shown there's not a one fit all scenario
When comes to managers... we've just got to hope that whoever we choose gets the backing with backroom staff and money for decent sighnings to supplement our precent squad which generally is a good one.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 8:45 pm

If he’s got links to Man City that could be good.
If he’s got better links to Debbie from Dallas even better and his dss as d is Coco the Clown.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sat May 24, 2025 9:11 pm

I know very little about Brum or Ipswich, but my guess is they have a vision and structure where we have nothing and i mean nothing.
Have a decent structure? Then knock yourself out and have an "up and coming" head coach. His job is just to coach the first team as football people are looking after everythng else. We don't have that.

I believe Riza was England U14~18 head coach, is that better than Man City elite development, Rambo was elite.

Whilst Tan is the Owner/DoF/CEO we need a Manager and an experienced one.

Give us someone like McPhail to run the club and i'd be happy with an up and coming coach.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sun May 25, 2025 3:54 pm

Southampton have just named Will Still their manager. Only 32 and managed just one club in France. Imagine the uproar if Tan did this. Brian Barry Murphy has a better CV than him.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sun May 25, 2025 3:58 pm

EastleighBlue wrote:Southampton have just named Will Still their manager. Only 32 and managed just one club in France. Imagine the uproar if Tan did this. Brian Barry Murphy has a better CV than him.


He’s one of the best up and coming managers out there.

The team in France: he had a 14 game unbeaten run.

Not that anyone on this forum would understand or accept that.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sun May 25, 2025 4:02 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
EastleighBlue wrote:Southampton have just named Will Still their manager. Only 32 and managed just one club in France. Imagine the uproar if Tan did this. Brian Barry Murphy has a better CV than him.


He’s one of the best up and coming managers out there.

The team in France: he had a 14 game unbeaten run.

Not that anyone on this forum would understand or accept that.


Football Focus did an article on him. I know who is. But this is my point. Experienced managers don't necessarily mean success. This guy has no Championship experience and has never played professional football. We need to be open minded about manager choices.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sun May 25, 2025 4:39 pm

EastleighBlue wrote:Southampton have just named Will Still their manager. Only 32 and managed just one club in France. Imagine the uproar if Tan did this. Brian Barry Murphy has a better CV than him.



Southampton were the "pin-up" footballing structure about a decade ago. A lot of well-run clubs copied their model and i don't suppose its that far behind still.

Tan is owner, part time DoF and CEO from 7000 mile away. Southampton can afford to let a 32-year-old look after 20 professional footballer, ours has to manage an entire football club.

Riza has a better CV than BBM.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sun May 25, 2025 4:41 pm

Question:

How many players has BBM or Rambo signed, and did they make a profit on them?

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sun May 25, 2025 6:49 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Question:

How many players has BBM or Rambo signed, and did they make a profit on them?


I'd answer that question with another question.

How many managers actually have a big say over transfers these days? Very few is the answer.

We are one of most clubs in that recruitment is taken out of the manager's hands. Difference is we don't have people with the right knowledge making decisions.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sun May 25, 2025 7:38 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Question:

How many players has BBM or Rambo signed, and did they make a profit on them?


I'd answer that question with another question.

How many managers actually have a big say over transfers these days? Very few is the answer.

We are one of most clubs in that recruitment is taken out of the manager's hands. Difference is we don't have people with the right knowledge making decisions.


Which is why we need a headstrong manager
Bulut got his player
Warnock got his players, good or bad
Malky & Ole, but they were early days

Most of the other were tidying up or just lucky to be there.

The club is a mess, a rookie isn't the answer. We'll get whoever answers their phone at halftime.

I'd rather the mega rich, high CCFC reputation Rambo if we are having a rookie. Being on someone staff means nothing , its lonely at the top and the CCFC circus multiples that by 10.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Sun May 25, 2025 9:19 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Question:

How many players has BBM or Rambo signed, and did they make a profit on them?


So Rambo took charge for 3 whole matches in 2 whole weeks at the very end of the season when the window is closed. Exactly how many would you have expected him to sign? 5,6,2,4 ? Ridiculous question when it comes to Ramsey. It's not like he's said he would want the job anyway.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Mon May 26, 2025 10:36 am

Welshman in CA wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Question:

How many players has BBM or Rambo signed, and did they make a profit on them?


So Rambo took charge for 3 whole matches in 2 whole weeks at the very end of the season when the window is closed. Exactlya how many would you have expected him to sign? 5,6,2,4 ? Ridiculous question when it comes to Ramsey. It's not like he's said he would want the job anyway.



Getting a manager must be one of the most high risk appointments in buisness? Brilliant in one job can be crap in another and visa versa....can be instant success "promotion "or instant failure "relegation " or takes couple years to fulfill their potential ! More often or not its the team behind the scenes that produces the success.....so doesn't matter if inexperienced or experienced the risks are generally the same except one risk slightly higher .

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Mon May 26, 2025 12:28 pm

Used to play for us didn’t he?

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Tue May 27, 2025 8:34 am

Apparently he’s Top of the list now

Re: Updated: Brian Barry-Murphy

Tue May 27, 2025 9:18 am

I would be nice if Nathan Jones would come, if he don't he's after the glory at Charlton, so don't touch him again, I would rather Ramsey get the job, with Ralls & Gunter there.

Re: Brian Barry-Murphy

Tue May 27, 2025 10:04 am

Forever Blue wrote:Apparently he’s Top of the list now



When are we expecting an announcement Annis? - do you expect we could see movement today or later this week?

Re: Updated: Brian Barry-Murphy

Tue May 27, 2025 10:22 am

Howieblue wrote:I would be nice if Nathan Jones would come, if he don't he's after the glory at Charlton, so don't touch him again, I would rather Ramsey get the job, with Ralls & Gunter there.


Nathan Jones would not come under Tan, as he will be a yes man or controlled.

Re: Updated: Brian Barry-Murphy

Tue May 27, 2025 10:34 am

Howieblue wrote:I would be nice if Nathan Jones would come, if he don't he's after the glory at Charlton, so don't touch him again, I would rather Ramsey get the job, with Ralls & Gunter there.


“If he don’t he’s after the glory”

What a silly thing to say.

Football is about winning.

You expect him to leave a job where he’s just been promoted, back in the championship, to work for Tan at a club in free fall?

Give your head a wobble.

Re: Updated: Brian Barry-Murphy

Tue May 27, 2025 10:46 am

I don't know anything about him. If he's the man, then we'll see how he performs.

He'll have 9 months (average) to perform or we'll be back in the market for a leader.

Re: Updated: Brian Barry-Murphy

Tue May 27, 2025 10:55 am

SB 1927 wrote:I don't know anything about him. If he's the man, then we'll see how he performs.

He'll have 9 months (average) to perform or we'll be back in the market for a leader.


To be fair- this is a big job for whoever takes over because there will be pressure from day one- promotion or bust for any new manager.

Re: Updated: Brian Barry-Murphy

Tue May 27, 2025 12:33 pm

The plot thickens..

Talk Sport are reporting Ruud is set to be sacked with Russell Martin lined up; which may mean a shuffle in the back room staff?

Re: Updated: Brian Barry-Murphy

Tue May 27, 2025 12:41 pm

Tan makes the choice and for me that's a massive problem.
Buckingham would be my choice out of the names put forward.
Tan however why is he making the choice again he wouldn't no what what chocolate bar to pick never mind our next manager.
I'm scared very scared