What a Joke / They Finally Call for Meeting:

You can all blame this and that for all the wrong doing at the club .

Ultimately it's lands at one man's desk .
Vincent Tan
Unless he has a plan to seriously change everything from top to bottom including himself as he is the biggest problem.

Nothing will change .

Come on then Vincent let's here your plans for cardiff city next season as the silence from the club is defining.

One man one club not anymore he has to change its that simple

I completely agree with that

Sludge?

I will say it straight to you:

THE TRUST IS A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME / STAND OUTSIDE WITH THEIR FREE ROOM AND COFFEES EVERY HOME GAME / NOT INCREASED NUMBERS AFTER ALL THESE YEARS:

And talk complete shite.

Jack game well organised 2,500 Protested

Ramsey came in just before Oxford game and changed our fans minds / we only gave 48hrs for Oxford so 500 is good:

The turn out for the Oxford game was a let down

You said that yourself

It was a total let down.

They made Ramsey the manager and that was the end.

All I will say is Morgan and his Trust are about status m, f**k that just action i believe in.

They achieve NOTHING

Supporters mu ar.e you don' t represent me i can dobthat myself along with the guys who stood outside protesting shouting for tans head where were you?
Bunch of pen pushers .

So the 400 on the protest represent the fans ?

But the small membership of the trust , around the same amount , a few hundred ....doesn't?

I just stated they do not represent me as a cardiff support I did not put myself on a pedestal claiming to represent supporters perhaps should read it again.?

Supporters mu ar.e you don' t represent me i can dobthat myself along with the guys who stood outside protesting shouting for tans head where were you?
Bunch of pen pushers .

So the 400 on the protest represent the fans ?

But the small membership of the trust , around the same amount , a few hundred ....doesn't?

I just stated they do not represent me as a cardiff support I did not put myself on a pedestal claiming to represent supporters perhaps should read it again.?

Correct Monty,

The Trust don’t Represent 99.9% of Cardiff fans.

Most of their members are from years ago as well.

Tan only changed when he saw an nigh on empty stadium for a FA cup game, I believe thats the only thing that shocked him. I don't think its the money, its the visuals. Taking a rocking CCS to a morgue with swaths of blue and red empty seats doesn't do his ego any good.

A march from the Canton cross to the car park or a strongly worded letter is not even water off a duck's back. I doubt it even registers in the "bothered" scale.

I don't know what the answer is butthe bickering does remind me of:

BRIAN: Are you the Judean People's Front?
REG: f**k off!
BRIAN: What?
REG: Judean People's Front. We're the People's Front of Judea! Judean People's Front. Cawk.
FRANCIS: Wankers.
BRIAN: Can I... join your group?
REG: No. Piss off.
BRIAN: I didn't want to sell this stuff. It's only a job. I hate the Romans as much as anybody.
PEOPLE'S FRONT OF JUDEA: Shhhh. Shhhh. Shhh. Shh. Shhhh.
REG: Stumm.
JUDITH: Are you sure?
BRIAN: Oh, dead sure. I hate the Romans already.
REG: Listen. If you wanted to join the P.F.J., you'd have to really hate the Romans.
BRIAN: I do!
REG: Oh, yeah? How much?
BRIAN: A lot!
REG: Right. You're in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the f*cking Judean People's Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah...
JUDITH: Splitters.
P.F.J.: Splitters...
FRANCIS: And the Judean Popular People's Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
LORETTA: And the People's Front of Judea.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
REG: What?
LORETTA: The People's Front of Judea. Splitters.
REG: We're the People's Front of Judea!
LORETTA: Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
REG: People's Front! C-huh
FRANCIS: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
REG: He's over there.
P.F.J.: Splitter!

Will tan pay for them to go to Malaysia for the meeting?

Will tan pay for them to go to Malaysia for the meeting?

Supporters mu ar.e you don' t represent me i can dobthat myself along with the guys who stood outside protesting shouting for tans head where were you?
Bunch of pen pushers .

I don't need to read it again , it's clear what you meant

What I am telling you is that if you think the trust don't represent you .....and lots of people would agree .....then protest groups such as the one you support also don't represent plenty of Cardiff fans either.....that's a fact or you would have 5000 on every March

This either us or them nonsense is part of the problem



So the 400 on the protest represent the fans ?

But the small membership of the trust , around the same amount , a few hundred ....doesn't?

I just stated they do not represent me as a cardiff support I did not put myself on a pedestal claiming to represent supporters perhaps should read it again.?

Will tan pay for them to go to Malaysia for the meeting?

Well here we are , Cardiff city fans summed up

We are the fans , no we are the fans etc etc

It's bullshit and has been going on for years and years

Will tan pay for them to go to Malaysia for the meeting?

See here you are annis , sarcastic smile

It's not the way to get things done

But there you go

Supporters mu ar.e you don' t represent me i can dobthat myself along with the guys who stood outside protesting shouting for tans head where were you?
Bunch of pen pushers .

I don't need to read it again , it's clear what you meant

What I am telling you is that if you think the trust don't represent you .....and lots of people would agree .....then protest groups such as the one you support also don't represent plenty of Cardiff fans either.....that's a fact or you would have 5000 on every March

This either us or them nonsense is part of the problem



So the 400 on the protest represent the fans ?

But the small membership of the trust , around the same amount , a few hundred ....doesn't?

I just stated they do not represent me as a cardiff support I did not put myself on a pedestal claiming to represent supporters perhaps should read it again.?

f.ck me your hard work i never said us protesting represented the fans base but there nay well have been 5,000 fickle fans if dalhman had not put ramsey in charge .
Where are you by the way when ut comes to the fan base are you Jesus's of nazareth the messiah that's going to bring us alm together or just some fan with and opinion.?

CC Trust with about 200 Members and most live in Australia/America and New Zealand

Finally call for a meeting:

Will never ask the right questions:

K. MORGAN:


"We are dedicated fans of Cardiff City FC, some of us have supported the club through thick and thin for more than 60 years. However, we could not let the dreadful relegation to League One after more than 20 years in higher divisions go without comment. Relegation in all honesty has been coming since the 2021-22 season and the failure to address fundamental required changes from the top down has now come home to roost.

"Unless these matters are tackled urgently, the downward spiral on and off the field will continue and fan support will continue to drift away at an even faster rate than it has already.

"Of course we appreciate the enormous financial support from the club owner Vincent Tan which has led to promotion to the Premier League on two occasions. But there has been a complete failure to address the 'elephants in the room' of a lack of specialist football experience and knowledge at club board level and the lack of any full-time board director at the club, leading to an apparent lack of advice and knowledge to pass on to the owner.

"As the season has progressed and it quickly became evident that things were not going to plan on the pitch, it has been far from clear who on the club board, if anyone, has been advising the owner on footballing matters. If any such advice and recommendations have in fact been given, it is unclear if any notice has been taken of such advice and recommendations. Sadly, this has proved to be a critical element in the club's relegation in our view as the seemingly absolute and unchallengeable power of the owner in all major decisions has failed to work to the club's benefit.

"The appointment of a club board member with specialist football knowledge and experience has been raised by the trust with the club CEO Ken Choo and club chair Mehmet Dalman and has also been raised by the other elected official fan bodies Cardiff City Supporters' Club, the Fan Advisory Board (FAB) and the Disabled Supporters’ Association. Those officials have stated in meetings with fan bodies that they would be in favour of such an appointment but that the owner has been steadfastly against the idea, and he remains the sole decision maker. It seems to us that most of the strategic decision making at the club by the owner has been made in what is, effectively, an empirical knowledge and information vacuum.

"After the worst start to a season in the club's history and the expected departure of manager Erol Bulut, we believe it was a mistake to appoint such an inexperienced Championship manager as Omer Riza when there many experienced managers available to recruit. We are also unclear as to whether the permanent appointment of Omer Riza after an inordinate delay and after a series of poor performances and results was based on a board decision/recommendation or was solely a decision by the owner and on what criteria that decision was made.




"We thank Aaron Ramsey for stepping into an ultimately unsuccessful position as caretaker manager for the last three games of the season. However, we strongly believe that for the next season in League One we need an experienced manager at that level, possibly with Aaron playing a part in an assistant role to pick up experience (similar to Craig Bellamy under Vincent Kompany at Burnley and Anderlecht).

"We are also disappointed that Vincent Tan has made only minimal and very infrequent contact with the club fans to discuss issues and listen to fans views and concerns.

"There has therefore been virtually no opportunity for fans to speak to the person who appears to be the sole decision maker on key issues at the club.

Annis, this statement (for what it's worth) should have been release at christmas when everybody could see the direction the team were going, not now when it's too late.

Well the same could be said of the protest group on here .....why wasn't that jumping up and down earlier then?

This in fighting is pathetic

The protest group had their first demo in January against Leeds when they marched from Canton to the stadium. As for the trust it all sounded a great idea to have direct access to Dalman and the car salesman but it's never quite worked out that way has it?? Very few meetings have taken place and of the ones that have, very few of the difficult questions have been put to Tans yes men. I do agree with you that now is the time for all supporters and official groups to unite and try to run the 3 fraudsters out of our club.

The same criticisms you are aiming at the trust and they are fair enough are being aimed at the protest group and will be aimed at the protest group in the future

If you had 3000 on a protest March the other 15000 at the ground could say....well you don't represent US !

It's not going to achieve anything if all people can do is argue

3000 for a 23000, our biggest attendance of the season is a very good turnout for a protest for the time given. Manchester United on their day of Galzier protest managed 7,000 from an average 70,000 gates. That makes our percentage turnout higher.

As for the Trust with a membership of 200 after a decade or more of being around is poor don't you think. What they need is the ;eader pf the Trust to lay down in front of tans car when he finally turns up just like the leader of that Wimbledon Trust guy did. That's making a statement.

CC Trust with about 200 Members and most live in Australia/America and New Zealand

Finally call for a meeting:

Will never ask the right questions:

K. MORGAN:


"We are dedicated fans of Cardiff City FC, some of us have supported the club through thick and thin for more than 60 years. However, we could not let the dreadful relegation to League One after more than 20 years in higher divisions go without comment. Relegation in all honesty has been coming since the 2021-22 season and the failure to address fundamental required changes from the top down has now come home to roost.

"Unless these matters are tackled urgently, the downward spiral on and off the field will continue and fan support will continue to drift away at an even faster rate than it has already.

"Of course we appreciate the enormous financial support from the club owner Vincent Tan which has led to promotion to the Premier League on two occasions. But there has been a complete failure to address the 'elephants in the room' of a lack of specialist football experience and knowledge at club board level and the lack of any full-time board director at the club, leading to an apparent lack of advice and knowledge to pass on to the owner.

"As the season has progressed and it quickly became evident that things were not going to plan on the pitch, it has been far from clear who on the club board, if anyone, has been advising the owner on footballing matters. If any such advice and recommendations have in fact been given, it is unclear if any notice has been taken of such advice and recommendations. Sadly, this has proved to be a critical element in the club's relegation in our view as the seemingly absolute and unchallengeable power of the owner in all major decisions has failed to work to the club's benefit.

"The appointment of a club board member with specialist football knowledge and experience has been raised by the trust with the club CEO Ken Choo and club chair Mehmet Dalman and has also been raised by the other elected official fan bodies Cardiff City Supporters' Club, the Fan Advisory Board (FAB) and the Disabled Supporters’ Association. Those officials have stated in meetings with fan bodies that they would be in favour of such an appointment but that the owner has been steadfastly against the idea, and he remains the sole decision maker. It seems to us that most of the strategic decision making at the club by the owner has been made in what is, effectively, an empirical knowledge and information vacuum.

"After the worst start to a season in the club's history and the expected departure of manager Erol Bulut, we believe it was a mistake to appoint such an inexperienced Championship manager as Omer Riza when there many experienced managers available to recruit. We are also unclear as to whether the permanent appointment of Omer Riza after an inordinate delay and after a series of poor performances and results was based on a board decision/recommendation or was solely a decision by the owner and on what criteria that decision was made.




"We thank Aaron Ramsey for stepping into an ultimately unsuccessful position as caretaker manager for the last three games of the season. However, we strongly believe that for the next season in League One we need an experienced manager at that level, possibly with Aaron playing a part in an assistant role to pick up experience (similar to Craig Bellamy under Vincent Kompany at Burnley and Anderlecht).

"We are also disappointed that Vincent Tan has made only minimal and very infrequent contact with the club fans to discuss issues and listen to fans views and concerns.

"There has therefore been virtually no opportunity for fans to speak to the person who appears to be the sole decision maker on key issues at the club.

Annis, this statement (for what it's worth) should have been release at christmas when everybody could see the direction the team were going, not now when it's too late.

Well the same could be said of the protest group on here .....why wasn't that jumping up and down earlier then?

This in fighting is pathetic

The protest group had their first demo in January against Leeds when they marched from Canton to the stadium. As for the trust it all sounded a great idea to have direct access to Dalman and the car salesman but it's never quite worked out that way has it?? Very few meetings have taken place and of the ones that have, very few of the difficult questions have been put to Tans yes men. I do agree with you that now is the time for all supporters and official groups to unite and try to run the 3 fraudsters out of our club.

The same criticisms you are aiming at the trust and they are fair enough are being aimed at the protest group and will be aimed at the protest group in the future

If you had 3000 on a protest March the other 15000 at the ground could say....well you don't represent US !

It's not going to achieve anything if all people can do is argue

3000 for a 23000, our biggest attendance of the season is a very good turnout for a protest for the time given. Manchester United on their day of Galzier protest managed 7,000 from an average 70,000 gates. That makes our percentage turnout higher.

As for the Trust with a membership of 200 after a decade or more of being around is poor don't you think. What they need is the ;eader pf the Trust to lay down in front of tans car when he finally turns up just like the leader of that Wimbledon Trust guy did. That's making a statement.

Well said budd.

Supporters mu ar.e you don' t represent me i can dobthat myself along with the guys who stood outside protesting shouting for tans head where were you?
Bunch of pen pushers .

I don't need to read it again , it's clear what you meant

What I am telling you is that if you think the trust don't represent you .....and lots of people would agree .....then protest groups such as the one you support also don't represent plenty of Cardiff fans either.....that's a fact or you would have 5000 on every March

This either us or them nonsense is part of the problem



So the 400 on the protest represent the fans ?

But the small membership of the trust , around the same amount , a few hundred ....doesn't?

I just stated they do not represent me as a cardiff support I did not put myself on a pedestal claiming to represent supporters perhaps should read it again.?

f.ck me your hard work i never said us protesting represented the fans base but there nay well have been 5,000 fickle fans if dalhman had not put ramsey in charge .
Where are you by the way when ut comes to the fan base are you Jesus's of nazareth the messiah that's going to bring us alm together or just some fan with and opinion.?

Well you had a go at the trust calling them a bunch of pen pushers

That's fine , that's your opinion

But there are plenty of fans on other messageboards who think your sort of protests are a waste of time and they slag you off in the same way

You don't represent the fans anymore than anyone else

The point I am trying to make is it's all stupid and it's far better to work together

But Cardiff City fans have always argued like little kids so on it goes

CC Trust with about 200 Members and most live in Australia/America and New Zealand

Finally call for a meeting:

Will never ask the right questions:

K. MORGAN:


"We are dedicated fans of Cardiff City FC, some of us have supported the club through thick and thin for more than 60 years. However, we could not let the dreadful relegation to League One after more than 20 years in higher divisions go without comment. Relegation in all honesty has been coming since the 2021-22 season and the failure to address fundamental required changes from the top down has now come home to roost.

"Unless these matters are tackled urgently, the downward spiral on and off the field will continue and fan support will continue to drift away at an even faster rate than it has already.

"Of course we appreciate the enormous financial support from the club owner Vincent Tan which has led to promotion to the Premier League on two occasions. But there has been a complete failure to address the 'elephants in the room' of a lack of specialist football experience and knowledge at club board level and the lack of any full-time board director at the club, leading to an apparent lack of advice and knowledge to pass on to the owner.

"As the season has progressed and it quickly became evident that things were not going to plan on the pitch, it has been far from clear who on the club board, if anyone, has been advising the owner on footballing matters. If any such advice and recommendations have in fact been given, it is unclear if any notice has been taken of such advice and recommendations. Sadly, this has proved to be a critical element in the club's relegation in our view as the seemingly absolute and unchallengeable power of the owner in all major decisions has failed to work to the club's benefit.

"The appointment of a club board member with specialist football knowledge and experience has been raised by the trust with the club CEO Ken Choo and club chair Mehmet Dalman and has also been raised by the other elected official fan bodies Cardiff City Supporters' Club, the Fan Advisory Board (FAB) and the Disabled Supporters’ Association. Those officials have stated in meetings with fan bodies that they would be in favour of such an appointment but that the owner has been steadfastly against the idea, and he remains the sole decision maker. It seems to us that most of the strategic decision making at the club by the owner has been made in what is, effectively, an empirical knowledge and information vacuum.

"After the worst start to a season in the club's history and the expected departure of manager Erol Bulut, we believe it was a mistake to appoint such an inexperienced Championship manager as Omer Riza when there many experienced managers available to recruit. We are also unclear as to whether the permanent appointment of Omer Riza after an inordinate delay and after a series of poor performances and results was based on a board decision/recommendation or was solely a decision by the owner and on what criteria that decision was made.




"We thank Aaron Ramsey for stepping into an ultimately unsuccessful position as caretaker manager for the last three games of the season. However, we strongly believe that for the next season in League One we need an experienced manager at that level, possibly with Aaron playing a part in an assistant role to pick up experience (similar to Craig Bellamy under Vincent Kompany at Burnley and Anderlecht).

"We are also disappointed that Vincent Tan has made only minimal and very infrequent contact with the club fans to discuss issues and listen to fans views and concerns.

"There has therefore been virtually no opportunity for fans to speak to the person who appears to be the sole decision maker on key issues at the club.

Annis, this statement (for what it's worth) should have been release at christmas when everybody could see the direction the team were going, not now when it's too late.

Well the same could be said of the protest group on here .....why wasn't that jumping up and down earlier then?

This in fighting is pathetic

The protest group had their first demo in January against Leeds when they marched from Canton to the stadium. As for the trust it all sounded a great idea to have direct access to Dalman and the car salesman but it's never quite worked out that way has it?? Very few meetings have taken place and of the ones that have, very few of the difficult questions have been put to Tans yes men. I do agree with you that now is the time for all supporters and official groups to unite and try to run the 3 fraudsters out of our club.

The same criticisms you are aiming at the trust and they are fair enough are being aimed at the protest group and will be aimed at the protest group in the future

If you had 3000 on a protest March the other 15000 at the ground could say....well you don't represent US !

It's not going to achieve anything if all people can do is argue

3000 for a 23000, our biggest attendance of the season is a very good turnout for a protest for the time given. Manchester United on their day of Galzier protest managed 7,000 from an average 70,000 gates. That makes our percentage turnout higher.

As for the Trust with a membership of 200 after a decade or more of being around is poor don't you think. What they need is the ;eader pf the Trust to lay down in front of tans car when he finally turns up just like the leader of that Wimbledon Trust guy did. That's making a statement.

You have had years to develop protest groups

I have been on several marches myself

But here you are knocking the trust again

It's pathetic

Why don't you lie down and take action if that's what you think will achieve things ?

Do it at Norwich

Get on with it

CC Trust with about 200 Members and most live in Australia/America and New Zealand

Finally call for a meeting:

Will never ask the right questions:

K. MORGAN:


"We are dedicated fans of Cardiff City FC, some of us have supported the club through thick and thin for more than 60 years. However, we could not let the dreadful relegation to League One after more than 20 years in higher divisions go without comment. Relegation in all honesty has been coming since the 2021-22 season and the failure to address fundamental required changes from the top down has now come home to roost.

"Unless these matters are tackled urgently, the downward spiral on and off the field will continue and fan support will continue to drift away at an even faster rate than it has already.

"Of course we appreciate the enormous financial support from the club owner Vincent Tan which has led to promotion to the Premier League on two occasions. But there has been a complete failure to address the 'elephants in the room' of a lack of specialist football experience and knowledge at club board level and the lack of any full-time board director at the club, leading to an apparent lack of advice and knowledge to pass on to the owner.

"As the season has progressed and it quickly became evident that things were not going to plan on the pitch, it has been far from clear who on the club board, if anyone, has been advising the owner on footballing matters. If any such advice and recommendations have in fact been given, it is unclear if any notice has been taken of such advice and recommendations. Sadly, this has proved to be a critical element in the club's relegation in our view as the seemingly absolute and unchallengeable power of the owner in all major decisions has failed to work to the club's benefit.

"The appointment of a club board member with specialist football knowledge and experience has been raised by the trust with the club CEO Ken Choo and club chair Mehmet Dalman and has also been raised by the other elected official fan bodies Cardiff City Supporters' Club, the Fan Advisory Board (FAB) and the Disabled Supporters’ Association. Those officials have stated in meetings with fan bodies that they would be in favour of such an appointment but that the owner has been steadfastly against the idea, and he remains the sole decision maker. It seems to us that most of the strategic decision making at the club by the owner has been made in what is, effectively, an empirical knowledge and information vacuum.

"After the worst start to a season in the club's history and the expected departure of manager Erol Bulut, we believe it was a mistake to appoint such an inexperienced Championship manager as Omer Riza when there many experienced managers available to recruit. We are also unclear as to whether the permanent appointment of Omer Riza after an inordinate delay and after a series of poor performances and results was based on a board decision/recommendation or was solely a decision by the owner and on what criteria that decision was made.




"We thank Aaron Ramsey for stepping into an ultimately unsuccessful position as caretaker manager for the last three games of the season. However, we strongly believe that for the next season in League One we need an experienced manager at that level, possibly with Aaron playing a part in an assistant role to pick up experience (similar to Craig Bellamy under Vincent Kompany at Burnley and Anderlecht).

"We are also disappointed that Vincent Tan has made only minimal and very infrequent contact with the club fans to discuss issues and listen to fans views and concerns.

"There has therefore been virtually no opportunity for fans to speak to the person who appears to be the sole decision maker on key issues at the club.

Annis, this statement (for what it's worth) should have been release at christmas when everybody could see the direction the team were going, not now when it's too late.

Well the same could be said of the protest group on here .....why wasn't that jumping up and down earlier then?

This in fighting is pathetic

The protest group had their first demo in January against Leeds when they marched from Canton to the stadium. As for the trust it all sounded a great idea to have direct access to Dalman and the car salesman but it's never quite worked out that way has it?? Very few meetings have taken place and of the ones that have, very few of the difficult questions have been put to Tans yes men. I do agree with you that now is the time for all supporters and official groups to unite and try to run the 3 fraudsters out of our club.

The same criticisms you are aiming at the trust and they are fair enough are being aimed at the protest group and will be aimed at the protest group in the future

If you had 3000 on a protest March the other 15000 at the ground could say....well you don't represent US !

It's not going to achieve anything if all people can do is argue

3000 for a 23000, our biggest attendance of the season is a very good turnout for a protest for the time given. Manchester United on their day of Galzier protest managed 7,000 from an average 70,000 gates. That makes our percentage turnout higher.

As for the Trust with a membership of 200 after a decade or more of being around is poor don't you think. What they need is the ;eader pf the Trust to lay down in front of tans car when he finally turns up just like the leader of that Wimbledon Trust guy did. That's making a statement.

Well said budd.

You have your banner monty

If you want direct action take it to Norwich and wave it about on the pitch

Let's have it

Supporters mu ar.e you don' t represent me i can dobthat myself along with the guys who stood outside protesting shouting for tans head where were you?
Bunch of pen pushers .

I don't need to read it again , it's clear what you meant

What I am telling you is that if you think the trust don't represent you .....and lots of people would agree .....then protest groups such as the one you support also don't represent plenty of Cardiff fans either.....that's a fact or you would have 5000 on every March

This either us or them nonsense is part of the problem



So the 400 on the protest represent the fans ?

But the small membership of the trust , around the same amount , a few hundred ....doesn't?

I just stated they do not represent me as a cardiff support I did not put myself on a pedestal claiming to represent supporters perhaps should read it again.?

f.ck me your hard work i never said us protesting represented the fans base but there nay well have been 5,000 fickle fans if dalhman had not put ramsey in charge .
Where are you by the way when ut comes to the fan base are you Jesus's of nazareth the messiah that's going to bring us alm together or just some fan with and opinion.?

Well you had a go at the trust calling them a bunch of pen pushers

That's fine , that's your opinion

But there are plenty of fans on other messageboards who think your sort of protests are a waste of time and they slag you off in the same way

You don't represent the fans anymore than anyone else

The point I am trying to make is it's all stupid and it's far better to work together

But Cardiff City fans have always argued like little kids so on it goes

For the 3rd time. I have said i or we don' t represent the fans base we are a group who all think the same tan needs to go end of.
I really am not bothered if others disagree with my opinion on tan ,
But is there "anyone left who supports an owner who is happy to have the team and club he owns disintegrate as a team and as a fan base there is no logic in backing this man surely and that's why I protested .

The problems at the club have divided fans so much that it’s as if we all support different teams.

Paul posted earlier about perspective, and the perspective here should really be that we are stronger as a bigger group with a louder voice.

Everyone had an opinion, everyone has their own way of doing things - people are at different stages of their lives with different priorities and things going on outside of football.

One thing is crystal clear -

The letters by the Trust haven’t worked - The board just come out with a bunch of lies to keep them happy.

Similarly, Tan doesn’t care about a few thousand people with banners walking from Canton - probably quite the opposite - the two protests were two of the biggest crowds of the season, so more money for Tan.

What really needs to happen is everyone coming together, showing Tan (in the right way, not calling him a pig m*ther f*cker like we are in high school) to show him that we are united in our displeasure at how he is running the club.

Right now he’s probably laughing at everything.

The problems at the club have divided fans so much that it’s as if we all support different teams.

Paul posted earlier about perspective, and the perspective here should really be that we are stronger as a bigger group with a louder voice.

Everyone had an opinion, everyone has their own way of doing things - people are at different stages of their lives with different priorities and things going on outside of football.

One thing is crystal clear -

The letters by the Trust haven’t worked - The board just come out with a bunch of lies to keep them happy.

Similarly, Tan doesn’t care about a few thousand people with banners walking from Canton - probably quite the opposite - the two protests were two of the biggest crowds of the season, so more money for Tan.

What really needs to happen is everyone coming together, showing Tan (in the right way, not calling him a pig m*ther f*cker like we are in high school) to show him that we are united in our displeasure at how he is running the club.

Right now he’s probably laughing at everything.

Trouble is tan is not interested in meeting any cardiff fan half way we are customers of his if you remember it's his toy
And the other problem is I would say 70% want him gone and 30% are happy enough for him to stay what do you suggest perhaps if you could persuade the 30% to join the 70% we could be all a 100% Tan out i awaite your solution .

CC Trust with about 200 Members and most live in Australia/America and New Zealand

Finally call for a meeting:

Will never ask the right questions:

K. MORGAN:


"We are dedicated fans of Cardiff City FC, some of us have supported the club through thick and thin for more than 60 years. However, we could not let the dreadful relegation to League One after more than 20 years in higher divisions go without comment. Relegation in all honesty has been coming since the 2021-22 season and the failure to address fundamental required changes from the top down has now come home to roost.

"Unless these matters are tackled urgently, the downward spiral on and off the field will continue and fan support will continue to drift away at an even faster rate than it has already.

"Of course we appreciate the enormous financial support from the club owner Vincent Tan which has led to promotion to the Premier League on two occasions. But there has been a complete failure to address the 'elephants in the room' of a lack of specialist football experience and knowledge at club board level and the lack of any full-time board director at the club, leading to an apparent lack of advice and knowledge to pass on to the owner.

"As the season has progressed and it quickly became evident that things were not going to plan on the pitch, it has been far from clear who on the club board, if anyone, has been advising the owner on footballing matters. If any such advice and recommendations have in fact been given, it is unclear if any notice has been taken of such advice and recommendations. Sadly, this has proved to be a critical element in the club's relegation in our view as the seemingly absolute and unchallengeable power of the owner in all major decisions has failed to work to the club's benefit.

"The appointment of a club board member with specialist football knowledge and experience has been raised by the trust with the club CEO Ken Choo and club chair Mehmet Dalman and has also been raised by the other elected official fan bodies Cardiff City Supporters' Club, the Fan Advisory Board (FAB) and the Disabled Supporters’ Association. Those officials have stated in meetings with fan bodies that they would be in favour of such an appointment but that the owner has been steadfastly against the idea, and he remains the sole decision maker. It seems to us that most of the strategic decision making at the club by the owner has been made in what is, effectively, an empirical knowledge and information vacuum.

"After the worst start to a season in the club's history and the expected departure of manager Erol Bulut, we believe it was a mistake to appoint such an inexperienced Championship manager as Omer Riza when there many experienced managers available to recruit. We are also unclear as to whether the permanent appointment of Omer Riza after an inordinate delay and after a series of poor performances and results was based on a board decision/recommendation or was solely a decision by the owner and on what criteria that decision was made.




"We thank Aaron Ramsey for stepping into an ultimately unsuccessful position as caretaker manager for the last three games of the season. However, we strongly believe that for the next season in League One we need an experienced manager at that level, possibly with Aaron playing a part in an assistant role to pick up experience (similar to Craig Bellamy under Vincent Kompany at Burnley and Anderlecht).

"We are also disappointed that Vincent Tan has made only minimal and very infrequent contact with the club fans to discuss issues and listen to fans views and concerns.

"There has therefore been virtually no opportunity for fans to speak to the person who appears to be the sole decision maker on key issues at the club.

Annis, this statement (for what it's worth) should have been release at christmas when everybody could see the direction the team were going, not now when it's too late.

Well the same could be said of the protest group on here .....why wasn't that jumping up and down earlier then?

This in fighting is pathetic

The protest group had their first demo in January against Leeds when they marched from Canton to the stadium. As for the trust it all sounded a great idea to have direct access to Dalman and the car salesman but it's never quite worked out that way has it?? Very few meetings have taken place and of the ones that have, very few of the difficult questions have been put to Tans yes men. I do agree with you that now is the time for all supporters and official groups to unite and try to run the 3 fraudsters out of our club.

The same criticisms you are aiming at the trust and they are fair enough are being aimed at the protest group and will be aimed at the protest group in the future

If you had 3000 on a protest March the other 15000 at the ground could say....well you don't represent US !

It's not going to achieve anything if all people can do is argue

3000 for a 23000, our biggest attendance of the season is a very good turnout for a protest for the time given. Manchester United on their day of Galzier protest managed 7,000 from an average 70,000 gates. That makes our percentage turnout higher.

As for the Trust with a membership of 200 after a decade or more of being around is poor don't you think. What they need is the ;eader pf the Trust to lay down in front of tans car when he finally turns up just like the leader of that Wimbledon Trust guy did. That's making a statement.

You have had years to develop protest groups

I have been on several marches myself

But here you are knocking the trust again

It's pathetic

Why don't you lie down and take action if that's what you think will achieve things ?

Do it at Norwich

Get on with it

Come of it Slugde. Protest groups are not constitualionalised but are on the spot organised and will always be like that.

And whats so pathetic criticising and organisation that has grown a fraction of its time in a deciade or more?

As for doing something 2 protest of late what do you call that?

The problems at the club have divided fans so much that it’s as if we all support different teams.

Paul posted earlier about perspective, and the perspective here should really be that we are stronger as a bigger group with a louder voice.

Everyone had an opinion, everyone has their own way of doing things - people are at different stages of their lives with different priorities and things going on outside of football.

One thing is crystal clear -

The letters by the Trust haven’t worked - The board just come out with a bunch of lies to keep them happy.

Similarly, Tan doesn’t care about a few thousand people with banners walking from Canton - probably quite the opposite - the two protests were two of the biggest crowds of the season, so more money for Tan.

What really needs to happen is everyone coming together, showing Tan (in the right way, not calling him a pig m*ther f*cker like we are in high school) to show him that we are united in our displeasure at how he is running the club.

Right now he’s probably laughing at everything.

Trouble is tan is not interested in meeting any cardiff fan half way we are customers of his if you remember it's his toy
And the other problem is I would say 70% want him gone and 30% are happy enough for him to stay what do you suggest perhaps if you could persuade the 30% to join the 70% we could be all a 100% Tan out i awaite your solution .

Sorry to say but its coming down to boycotting the games. That's the unwritten rule being broken where you support your team whatever.

Just what is the point of this group ? Who are they ? From what I can gather by reading the minutes they are pathetic , what influence have they had over the last 5 years ? Never tackle the problem head on and put people to the sword . In my view total waste of time !

CC Trust with about 200 Members and most live in Australia/America and New Zealand

Finally call for a meeting:

Will never ask the right questions:

K. MORGAN:


"We are dedicated fans of Cardiff City FC, some of us have supported the club through thick and thin for more than 60 years. However, we could not let the dreadful relegation to League One after more than 20 years in higher divisions go without comment. Relegation in all honesty has been coming since the 2021-22 season and the failure to address fundamental required changes from the top down has now come home to roost.

"Unless these matters are tackled urgently, the downward spiral on and off the field will continue and fan support will continue to drift away at an even faster rate than it has already.

"Of course we appreciate the enormous financial support from the club owner Vincent Tan which has led to promotion to the Premier League on two occasions. But there has been a complete failure to address the 'elephants in the room' of a lack of specialist football experience and knowledge at club board level and the lack of any full-time board director at the club, leading to an apparent lack of advice and knowledge to pass on to the owner.

"As the season has progressed and it quickly became evident that things were not going to plan on the pitch, it has been far from clear who on the club board, if anyone, has been advising the owner on footballing matters. If any such advice and recommendations have in fact been given, it is unclear if any notice has been taken of such advice and recommendations. Sadly, this has proved to be a critical element in the club's relegation in our view as the seemingly absolute and unchallengeable power of the owner in all major decisions has failed to work to the club's benefit.

"The appointment of a club board member with specialist football knowledge and experience has been raised by the trust with the club CEO Ken Choo and club chair Mehmet Dalman and has also been raised by the other elected official fan bodies Cardiff City Supporters' Club, the Fan Advisory Board (FAB) and the Disabled Supporters’ Association. Those officials have stated in meetings with fan bodies that they would be in favour of such an appointment but that the owner has been steadfastly against the idea, and he remains the sole decision maker. It seems to us that most of the strategic decision making at the club by the owner has been made in what is, effectively, an empirical knowledge and information vacuum.

"After the worst start to a season in the club's history and the expected departure of manager Erol Bulut, we believe it was a mistake to appoint such an inexperienced Championship manager as Omer Riza when there many experienced managers available to recruit. We are also unclear as to whether the permanent appointment of Omer Riza after an inordinate delay and after a series of poor performances and results was based on a board decision/recommendation or was solely a decision by the owner and on what criteria that decision was made.




"We thank Aaron Ramsey for stepping into an ultimately unsuccessful position as caretaker manager for the last three games of the season. However, we strongly believe that for the next season in League One we need an experienced manager at that level, possibly with Aaron playing a part in an assistant role to pick up experience (similar to Craig Bellamy under Vincent Kompany at Burnley and Anderlecht).

"We are also disappointed that Vincent Tan has made only minimal and very infrequent contact with the club fans to discuss issues and listen to fans views and concerns.

"There has therefore been virtually no opportunity for fans to speak to the person who appears to be the sole decision maker on key issues at the club.

Annis, this statement (for what it's worth) should have been release at christmas when everybody could see the direction the team were going, not now when it's too late.

Well the same could be said of the protest group on here .....why wasn't that jumping up and down earlier then?

This in fighting is pathetic

The protest group had their first demo in January against Leeds when they marched from Canton to the stadium. As for the trust it all sounded a great idea to have direct access to Dalman and the car salesman but it's never quite worked out that way has it?? Very few meetings have taken place and of the ones that have, very few of the difficult questions have been put to Tans yes men. I do agree with you that now is the time for all supporters and official groups to unite and try to run the 3 fraudsters out of our club.

The same criticisms you are aiming at the trust and they are fair enough are being aimed at the protest group and will be aimed at the protest group in the future

If you had 3000 on a protest March the other 15000 at the ground could say....well you don't represent US !

It's not going to achieve anything if all people can do is argue

3000 for a 23000, our biggest attendance of the season is a very good turnout for a protest for the time given. Manchester United on their day of Galzier protest managed 7,000 from an average 70,000 gates. That makes our percentage turnout higher.

As for the Trust with a membership of 200 after a decade or more of being around is poor don't you think. What they need is the ;eader pf the Trust to lay down in front of tans car when he finally turns up just like the leader of that Wimbledon Trust guy did. That's making a statement.

Well said budd.

You have your banner monty

If you want direct action take it to Norwich and wave it about on the pitch

Let's have it

I am in the canaries with feet up budd