PLAYERS HAD ENOUGH OFF RIZA / RAMSEY GET

I agree the players have to shoulder some blame but it must be so frustrating to be chopped and changed game after game playing system after system, everyone knows a settled well drilled side who play a certain way week in week out tend to be more successful

Riza should have absolutely not even been given the job in the first place, but These players have not earnt the right to say what manager they get
not even close
What, their mate , gets the job and they try harder?

Spot on, the players are equally to blame. It hasn't been good enough and we deserve to go down. Even worse dropping with no fight.

How can they perform when they dont know if playing one game to next? As for tactics does anyone know what they are least of all the players? but worst thing for players is playing out of position? Is it a wonder they want a new coach? Besides not 1st time players rebel against the manager!

Riza should have absolutely not even been given the job in the first place, but These players have not earnt the right to say what manager they get
not even close
What, their mate , gets the job and they try harder?

Spot on, the players are equally to blame. It hasn't been good enough and we deserve to go down. Even worse dropping with no fight.

How can they perform when they dont know if playing one game to next? As for tactics does anyone know what they are least of all the players? but worst thing for players is playing out of position? Is it a wonder they want a new coach? Besides not 1st time players rebel against the manager!

Riza should have absolutely not even been given the job in the first place, but These players have not earnt the right to say what manager they get
not even close
What, their mate , gets the job and they try harder?

Spot on, the players are equally to blame. It hasn't been good enough and we deserve to go down. Even worse dropping with no fight.

How can they perform when they dont know if playing one game to next? As for tactics does anyone know what they are least of all the players? but worst thing for players is playing out of position? Is it a wonder they want a new coach? Besides not 1st time players rebel against the manager!

Sorry Allan that is bollocks.

These aren’t school children who have to know they are playing week in week out to show off.

These are professional footballers who are on excess of 5k a week and are well aware that changes will be made.

Take a look at Pep, changes his team weekly. One of the most successful managers in the game.

But because Riza does it, he’s a villain?

It’s down to the players also to show some passion, win those 50 50s and show they want to be here.

Riza should have absolutely not even been given the job in the first place, but These players have not earnt the right to say what manager they get
not even close
What, their mate , gets the job and they try harder?

Spot on, the players are equally to blame. It hasn't been good enough and we deserve to go down. Even worse dropping with no fight.

How can they perform when they dont know if playing one game to next? As for tactics does anyone know what they are least of all the players? but worst thing for players is playing out of position? Is it a wonder they want a new coach? Besides not 1st time players rebel against the manager!

Sorry Allan that is bollocks.

These aren’t school children who have to know they are playing week in week out to show off.

These are professional footballers who are on excess of 5k a week and are well aware that changes will be made.

Take a look at Pep, changes his team weekly. One of the most successful managers in the game.

But because Riza does it, he’s a villain?

It’s down to the players also to show some passion, win those 50 50s and show they want to be here.

But if you think you need to win 2nd ball (which is and always will be essential) then Robinson or Rubin and two wingers is leaving a lot for the 2 CM's to win the battle especially as Robertson doesn't convince as a 8 at this stage in his career and his best games were where Robinson/Rubin were selected.
You need to win the midfield battle, selecting 4 attackers is all fine and dandy but means nothing if the are passengers.

Riza should have absolutely not even been given the job in the first place, but These players have not earnt the right to say what manager they get
not even close
What, their mate , gets the job and they try harder?

Spot on, the players are equally to blame. It hasn't been good enough and we deserve to go down. Even worse dropping with no fight.

How can they perform when they dont know if playing one game to next? As for tactics does anyone know what they are least of all the players? but worst thing for players is playing out of position? Is it a wonder they want a new coach? Besides not 1st time players rebel against the manager!

Sorry Allan that is bollocks.

These aren’t school children who have to know they are playing week in week out to show off.

These are professional footballers who are on excess of 5k a week and are well aware that changes will be made.

Take a look at Pep, changes his team weekly. One of the most successful managers in the game.

But because Riza does it, he’s a villain?

It’s down to the players also to show some passion, win those 50 50s and show they want to be here.

Have you ever played football out of position? A centre forward is a center forward not a winger like he played miete? Colwill is a midfielder not a winger could go on the whole team is filled with players who've over the season have been played out of position... players get frustrated if cannot perform to their standards because they can't? You may think its bollocks but players mostly have professional pride and to me the players have given up on riza and it shows.... like I've said it's not uncommon for players to get disillusioned with tactics of coach....that is a ludicrous statement regarding Pep! If he drops a player he as top quality to replace him ....we drew 0-0 next game changes 3 defenders no reason not injured concede 2 goals ... yesterday took off Salech puts on meite like for like then put more subs on he has 5 attacking players on pitch with one centre forward created one chance because there was no game plan just an overloaded attack common sense says leave Salech on with miete get wide and play ball in middle that wasn't rizas plan was it? He simply changed like for like again hoping for something different to happen..

Riza should have absolutely not even been given the job in the first place, but These players have not earnt the right to say what manager they get
not even close
What, their mate , gets the job and they try harder?

Spot on, the players are equally to blame. It hasn't been good enough and we deserve to go down. Even worse dropping with no fight.

How can they perform when they dont know if playing one game to next? As for tactics does anyone know what they are least of all the players? but worst thing for players is playing out of position? Is it a wonder they want a new coach? Besides not 1st time players rebel against the manager!

Sorry Allan that is bollocks.

These aren’t school children who have to know they are playing week in week out to show off.

These are professional footballers who are on excess of 5k a week and are well aware that changes will be made.

Take a look at Pep, changes his team weekly. One of the most successful managers in the game.

But because Riza does it, he’s a villain?

It’s down to the players also to show some passion, win those 50 50s and show they want to be here.

Have you ever played football out of position? A centre forward is a center forward not a winger like he played miete? Colwill is a midfielder not a winger could go on the whole team is filled with players who've over the season have been played out of position... players get frustrated if cannot perform to their standards because they can't? You may think its bollocks but players mostly have professional pride and to me the players have given up on riza and it shows.... like I've said it's not uncommon for players to get disillusioned with tactics of coach....that is a ludicrous statement regarding Pep! If he drops a player he as top quality to replace him ....we drew 0-0 next game changes 3 defenders no reason not injured concede 2 goals ... yesterday took off Salech puts on meite like for like then put more subs on he has 5 attacking players on pitch with one centre forward created one chance because there was no game plan just an overloaded attack common sense says leave Salech on with miete get wide and play ball in middle that wasn't rizas plan was it? He simply changed like for like again hoping for something different to happen..

Understand the frustration with playing players out of position. Meite is a prime example of a player who has been played incorrectly for the majority of his time here.

Riza is tactically not good enough and his substitutions are baffling, so he does have to take a lot of the blame - I don’t think anyone is questioning that and even the ones like myself and Ned who tried and tried to defend him have now admitted we were wrong.

That doesn’t take away the fact though that the players need to take responsibility for their own down falls. Lack of effort and passion is something that each player chooses to do. Robbo for example since he got his new contract has been nothing short of a complete waste of time. Flailing his arms around and doing nothing else.

Not battling for second balls, pulling out of 5050s. They look like a team who have nothing to fight for.

If I was on 10k a week I would be giving it my all week in week out for the club regardless of if I like the manager or not. The pitch is a shop window for players, many of which will be looking for a new club when we go down - their dis interest and lack of effort will not be doing them any favours.

Riza should have absolutely not even been given the job in the first place, but These players have not earnt the right to say what manager they get
not even close
What, their mate , gets the job and they try harder?

Spot on, the players are equally to blame. It hasn't been good enough and we deserve to go down. Even worse dropping with no fight.

How can they perform when they dont know if playing one game to next? As for tactics does anyone know what they are least of all the players? but worst thing for players is playing out of position? Is it a wonder they want a new coach? Besides not 1st time players rebel against the manager!

Sorry Allan that is bollocks.

These aren’t school children who have to know they are playing week in week out to show off.

These are professional footballers who are on excess of 5k a week and are well aware that changes will be made.

Take a look at Pep, changes his team weekly. One of the most successful managers in the game.

But because Riza does it, he’s a villain?

It’s down to the players also to show some passion, win those 50 50s and show they want to be here.

Have you ever played football out of position? A centre forward is a center forward not a winger like he played miete? Colwill is a midfielder not a winger could go on the whole team is filled with players who've over the season have been played out of position... players get frustrated if cannot perform to their standards because they can't? You may think its bollocks but players mostly have professional pride and to me the players have given up on riza and it shows.... like I've said it's not uncommon for players to get disillusioned with tactics of coach....that is a ludicrous statement regarding Pep! If he drops a player he as top quality to replace him ....we drew 0-0 next game changes 3 defenders no reason not injured concede 2 goals ... yesterday took off Salech puts on meite like for like then put more subs on he has 5 attacking players on pitch with one centre forward created one chance because there was no game plan just an overloaded attack common sense says leave Salech on with miete get wide and play ball in middle that wasn't rizas plan was it? He simply changed like for like again hoping for something different to happen..

Understand the frustration with playing players out of position. Meite is a prime example of a player who has been played incorrectly for the majority of his time here.

Riza is tactically not good enough and his substitutions are baffling, so he does have to take a lot of the blame - I don’t think anyone is questioning that and even the ones like myself and Ned who tried and tried to defend him have now admitted we were wrong.

That doesn’t take away the fact though that the players need to take responsibility for their own down falls. Lack of effort and passion is something that each player chooses to do. Robbo for example since he got his new contract has been nothing short of a complete waste of time. Flailing his arms around and doing nothing else.

Not battling for second balls, pulling out of 5050s. They look like a team who have nothing to fight for.

If I was on 10k a week I would be giving it my all week in week out for the club regardless of if I like the manager or not. The pitch is a shop window for players, many of which will be looking for a new club when we go down - their dis interest and lack of effort will not be doing them any favours.

Yes players do need to take responsibility on pitch like Saturdays goal but that goal happened in lots games Saturday always do .....but is the coaching upto scratch to negate it happening got yo say no on evidence we've seen... I bang on about out of position and frustration by players but as we all agree rizas tactics are awful and it's his use of subs his defensive formation at home that's caused this problem not the players ... correct tactics and use of subs would have won us far more points... despite big wages players are human and as such are effected by what goes on around them same if you had problems at work with your boss you'd be effected wouldn't you? Yes players must take responsibility but riza is the cause of our situation not players.

The mascot would do better than Riza. Ramsey’s getting paid, so nothing to lose… but unless it’s Tan’s idea, it won’t happen

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