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Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:08 pm

copy and paste her pic off the bbc sit u want 2 and put all around cardiff HAHA

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:51 pm

ristey1927 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11494134

i think a public apology should be made ???


The wankers actually lead by saying these lads had abused her.

That is slander.

Thousands will have read the main headline, seen the pics and
tarred the lads as thugs. f**k the public apology, that would let
them off the hook too lightly. Sue them lads.

Funny how Terry Phillips aint picked up this 'exclusive' off the site eh. Wanker

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:18 pm

I cant really see what you can do. You could go to the police complaints commision for the release of the pictures to the media, but all the police will say is they were using the media to assist in enquires and if they are forced to stop using the media to look for alleged offenders, they will have to stop using the media for everything including missing children as it will open the flood gates for complaints and legal action. With regards to the woman if she is to be charged with trespassing thats down to network rail (or whoever owns the track system now) and BTP, but it will probably end up in court and she will claim mitigating circumstances. With regards to her complaint, whether the guys on the train were aggresive or not, if the woman felt threatened she had a right to complain and it will be really hard to prove otherwise in court. With the media good luck trying to take them on they will state that they issued the facts at the time, and they will have top lawyers backing them up. Life is rarely fair just take it on the chin and be gratefull the police cant make a case against you.

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:08 pm

As I said we need to try and put a stop to this as football supporters are no way as bad as rugby drunks on the trains but the echo is so unfair they would have not printed if it was rugby supporters but as it is cardiff city supporters its front page.

I can see why Dave Jones will not have anything to do with them they are scum.

This woman is a disgrace and all the poor sods who had their pictures on the BBC should have public appologies and
compo as it is the 1 poor sod has had trouble in work and from his missus its so unfair.

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:13 pm

ristey1927 wrote:come on claire we need a spell check !


:lol: :lol:

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:21 am

good news i hope she gets done for it :ayatollah:

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:09 am

JONNY012697 wrote:I cant really see what you can do. You could go to the police complaints commision for the release of the pictures to the media, but all the police will say is they were using the media to assist in enquires and if they are forced to stop using the media to look for alleged offenders, they will have to stop using the media for everything including missing children as it will open the flood gates for complaints and legal action. With regards to the woman if she is to be charged with trespassing thats down to network rail (or whoever owns the track system now) and BTP, but it will probably end up in court and she will claim mitigating circumstances. With regards to her complaint, whether the guys on the train were aggresive or not, if the woman felt threatened she had a right to complain and it will be really hard to prove otherwise in court. With the media good luck trying to take them on they will state that they issued the facts at the time, and they will have top lawyers backing them up. Life is rarely fair just take it on the chin and be gratefull the police cant make a case against you.


You cant do the police.

You can sue the newspaper. The wording left readers in no doubt that the
lads pictured had abused the bitch. So its slander.

Id have been round my solicitors within 5 minutes. I Wouldnt accept the
written apology, Id go for the throat. Cos if a judge later finds in your
favour (and i reckon you'd have a good case) then you would get compo
and you could report it to another paper, such as the Mail. It would be a
bigger story then, and maybe the bitch would have HER mush plastered
over the papers being proved a liar

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:06 pm

a few thoughts.......the chances of trying to sue a newspaper and winning are very slim....the echo only quoted what the woman said.....the photos were put up because btp asked them as part of an investigation.....

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:19 pm

coppler wrote:a few thoughts.......the chances of trying to sue a newspaper and winning are very slim....the echo only quoted what the woman said.....the photos were put up because btp asked them as part of an investigation.....

They are responsible for what they print. And it is also upto the papers to make sure the woman isn't a a time waster and B that they can clarify that the facts they are printing is indeed correct. What those lads can do between them all is take that woman to Court for slander and unnecessary hurt caused. Or they make a claim against Arriva for the expenses incurred in completing there journey.

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:42 pm

the echo have covered themselves....to sue for libel or slander would cost £1,000s.....and you can't get free legal aid....and i doubt any legal firm would take on their case

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:29 pm

Thanks for all the support guys, quick note for the moment, iv asked about defamation of character and it would cost me thousands, so thats a no go for me, but on a good note i have been told by my solicitor that the BTP are gona sort out a letter for my manager to take a look at saying that i had nothing to do with it. But the best news is that they ARE taking action against that woman for jumping on the line and slapping my mate. what a result, get in there. My two mates are up in the BTP office tonight, GOOD LUCK BOYS

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:33 pm

coppler wrote:the echo have covered themselves....to sue for libel or slander would cost £1,000s.....and you can't get free legal aid....and i doubt any legal firm would take on their case


The Echo actually printed:

"PICTURES OF MEN WHO ABUSED WOMAN ON TRAIN"

That was the headline

So its false. Its slanderous. As has been said, they have a duty to check their stories
before printing them. They think cos its Cardiff supporters they can get away with
f*cking anything.

That Football Supporters organisation that helped get the Stoke lads the apology from
Manchester police might be able to help

Furthermore, it only needs ONE innocent lad to take them on. I'd chip in £20 straight away...
you'd raise a grand in no time, than as the case adds pace, itd pay for itself

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:47 pm

ValleysBoy wrote:Thanks for all the support guys, quick note for the moment, iv asked about defamation of character and it would cost me thousands, so thats a no go for me, but on a good note i have been told by my solicitor that the BTP are gona sort out a letter for my manager to take a look at saying that i had nothing to do with it. But the best news is that they ARE taking action against that woman for jumping on the line and slapping my mate. what a result, get in there. My two mates are up in the BTP office tonight, GOOD LUCK BOYS



happy days glad she getting done :)

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:48 pm

Hmmm, wonder what those people on forums elsewhere, eager to judge based upon one side of the story will do now.

The threads there seem to have gone very quiet.

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:45 pm

Serious now !! What i would do if the threads are accurate above for which i do believe.
Get in contact with The Daily Mail which i believe was the paper that first ran the story. And be very polite and courteous (that believe me can get you a long way) and state who you are and you was involved in the story involving MRS Robinson who went on the train tracks and stopped the train.

And explain you would like to put your side of the story which can be backed up by CCTV on the train. Explain the Police view and say in fairness would they be willing to listen to your side of the story.

If you go in demanding this and demanding that they will shut you out, but if you use reason and politeness you could get lucky and get yourself in the paper for the right reasons. But you will have to eat humble pie on the fact you was using swear words in your songs and you admit now that was wrong.

If that was me in one of the photo's that is what i would do Chief.

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:02 pm

my wife is disgusted at the slapper and has suggested going to the low market magazines, take a break etc, and seeing if they will print your story. they pay for them so you can use it as a starter to suing the bitch.

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:18 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:I cant really see what you can do. You could go to the police complaints commision for the release of the pictures to the media, but all the police will say is they were using the media to assist in enquires and if they are forced to stop using the media to look for alleged offenders, they will have to stop using the media for everything including missing children as it will open the flood gates for complaints and legal action. With regards to the woman if she is to be charged with trespassing thats down to network rail (or whoever owns the track system now) and BTP, but it will probably end up in court and she will claim mitigating circumstances. With regards to her complaint, whether the guys on the train were aggresive or not, if the woman felt threatened she had a right to complain and it will be really hard to prove otherwise in court. With the media good luck trying to take them on they will state that they issued the facts at the time, and they will have top lawyers backing them up. Life is rarely fair just take it on the chin and be gratefull the police cant make a case against you.


You are so wrong on so many levels mate. :?

"take it on the chin and be grateful!!"

At this moment in time, tens of thousands of people in Wales think that there
are a group of Cardiff City supporters (and they have pics of them) that go around
bullying little old ladies and five year old kids.

The woman says she felt threatened?? There are WITNESSES to say the only aggressive
person on that train was her. Because of her job, she knew which buttons to press and
what to say to the police and the media.

Last year Greater Manchester Police took a coach full of Stoke City supporters (with tickets)
from a Manchester pub (where the landlord stated they had been as good as gold) and drove
them all the way back to Stoke, without even letting them stop for a piss. What if they had
taken it on the chin cos 'The Police have got better lawyers'.... The coppers would have got
away with a breach of human rights and facism.... Maybe Cardiff City will get Man Utd away
in the Cup this season. you could have been on a coach that got treated exactly the same,
theyd've got away with it once! why not do it with Cardiff City fans too, after all.. they bully
women and five year old kids....

NO mate, cant happen... cos Stoke took the coppers to court and they were forced to back
down and pay damages.

Right now, people will be getting on trains around Cardiff after a match shitting themselves
when a crowd of boisterous City fans get on singing. They'll be wondering if they're going to
get abused or punched. Its wrong. People need to know that these lads are all innocent. A
simple 'oops we may have been wrong' isnt enough.

I know you dont mean it that way, but you make it sound that they should think themselves
lucky

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:21 pm

i'm sure i heared that she spat at someone too, i work with a load from ystradd, thats assault

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:01 pm

The Premier 1 wrote:i'm sure i heared that she spat at someone too, i work with a load from ystradd, thats assault


She pushed and spat. I hope the lad goes to the police and
asks them to charge her. Both are classed as assault

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:23 pm

Latest update

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Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:12 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11538134 TUT TUT, NOW CHARGE THE WOMAN

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:53 am

Forever Blue wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11538134 TUT TUT, NOW CHARGE THE WOMAN

woman; looks more like a fella to me :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:23 am

Forever Blue wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11538134 TUT TUT, NOW CHARGE THE WOMAN


Funny that innit. Methinks they are DESPERATELY trying to find someone
to corroborate HER version.

This BBC report is a bit less biased against the lads, its like they have got
the whiff that all is not as it seems with her.

I truly hope the lad who got pushed and spat at presses charges.

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:43 pm

That is totally different kind of BBC report to the first one more proof that these lads have been wronged by a loonie woman
and over zealous press to rip into Cardiff City supporters AGAIN

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:15 pm

haha iv already started something on tha front, they pay up 2 a grand aswel

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:13 pm

Forever Blue wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11538134 TUT TUT, NOW CHARGE THE WOMAN

Haha things are beginning to look different, iv seen the cctv from both angles from cardiff central to caerphilly and not one person on that train was doing anything even close to being out of order except for mrs.robinson, even the CID's said that to me, the only reason i can think that they want more witnesses is because they want to try and make out that the boys were swearing where u can see them chanting as there is no audio on the footage. Mind u they mite be lookin into somethin on the journey between cearphilly and ystrad mynach, the part of the footage they didnt show me as i wasnt present. And as for the woman they want to come in as a witness who was sittin next to mrs.robinson is not actually a woman because when we were watching the cctv they realised it was a male teenager haha

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:43 pm

jamccfc wrote:my wife is disgusted at the slapper and has suggested going to the low market magazines, take a break etc, and seeing if they will print your story. they pay for them so you can use it as a starter to suing the bitch.



That sounds like a good idea, but they should be careful as these mags may want to spin the story as the 'woman takes on footy hoolies' story would be far more attractive to her readership.

I think it would be best to get them to sign to say they won't print our story until you've approved it.

Re: JUST COME BACK FROM BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:49 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
jamccfc wrote:my wife is disgusted at the slapper and has suggested going to the low market magazines, take a break etc, and seeing if they will print your story. they pay for them so you can use it as a starter to suing the bitch.



That sounds like a good idea, but they should be careful as these mags may want to spin the story as the 'woman takes on footy hoolies' story would be far more attractive to her readership.

I think it would be best to get them to sign to say they won't print our story until you've approved it.

At the end of the day its a women's mag so they would not be interested in our lads side as said above they would love her story. Anyhow use one of the lads mags they would love that story of the mad slapper going on the rampage on a train. :lol: :lol: :lol: