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Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:23 pm

Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:ROTHERHAM / MIDDLESBROUGH / CARDIFF CITY

Neil Warnock saved All three clubs from relegation

Plus 8 promotions, how can anyone doubt his credentials

CARDIFF CITY NEED HIM NOW TO SAVE US

Till the end of the season Warnock & Sol Bamba


But do you agree that Neil Warnock got involved in some very questionable activities when he was manager here, and at previous clubs?

Is Sol Bamba still a client of Willie McKay`s son (he was when he signed for us)?


I agree that Tan & Dalman over saw everything and they had to sign it all of.

We had abd gave this famous CCFC Committee do we not who over see everything.

Keith, your not stupid the buck stops at the top and Tan and Dalman have to accept results.


But you haven`t answered either question. What are your opinions on the questions I asked?

I agree entirely that the board of directors and owner are culpable in allowing Neil Warnock to get away with certain things which if the directors had the "balls" to stand up to the owner wouldn`t have happened like the very dodgy structure of the deal he negotiated with his friend Willie McKay. They should also have questioned and refused to sign off some of the transfer deals he did for the financial benefit of his son. Accusations of taking money from players to select them are a different matter.

So the board and owner are at fault themselves but it was Neil Warnock who instigated and pushed for these things. Because of that I personally wouldn`t want him back anywhere near our club.



Of course Warnock found the player and wanted him and negotiated with the backing of The Regime / The Committee who had the final say.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:09 pm

Let’s get it on and unite Cardiff City fans and save their season :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:10 pm

Let’s get it on and unite Cardiff City fans and save their season :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:13 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Let’s get it on and unite Cardiff City fans and save their season :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:

:lol: oh come on annis,we can only do that if you stop the daily I hate tan posts you put on .

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:23 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:ROTHERHAM / MIDDLESBROUGH / CARDIFF CITY

Neil Warnock saved All three clubs from relegation

Plus 8 promotions, how can anyone doubt his credentials

CARDIFF CITY NEED HIM NOW TO SAVE US

Till the end of the season Warnock & Sol Bamba


But do you agree that Neil Warnock got involved in some very questionable activities when he was manager here, and at previous clubs?

Is Sol Bamba still a client of Willie McKay`s son (he was when he signed for us)?


I agree that Tan & Dalman over saw everything and they had to sign it all of.

We had abd gave this famous CCFC Committee do we not who over see everything.

Keith, your not stupid the buck stops at the top and Tan and Dalman have to accept results.


But you haven`t answered either question. What are your opinions on the questions I asked?

I agree entirely that the board of directors and owner are culpable in allowing Neil Warnock to get away with certain things which if the directors had the "balls" to stand up to the owner wouldn`t have happened like the very dodgy structure of the deal he negotiated with his friend Willie McKay. They should also have questioned and refused to sign off some of the transfer deals he did for the financial benefit of his son. Accusations of taking money from players to select them are a different matter.

So the board and owner are at fault themselves but it was Neil Warnock who instigated and pushed for these things. Because of that I personally wouldn`t want him back anywhere near our club.



Of course Warnock found the player and wanted him and negotiated with the backing of The Regime / The Committee who had the final say.


1. Did NW really find the player or was the deal put to him by his friend Willie McKay as one that would be lucrative all round (apart from for Cardiff City FC)
2. Vincent Tan , as the sole decision maker in all major matters, was very much at fault for allowing it to happen when, yet again , his lack of football knowledge and lack of willingness to take advice from anyone with such knowledge alowed the deal to take place
3. The CCFC CEO and Chair have both said publicly that they didn`t want the deal to happen but either couldn`t or wouldn`t stand up to Vincent Tan to prevent it from happening so they are also at fault. The only person with a final say was (and still is) Vincent Tan , as is the case in all the other businesses he owns.


You still haven`t answered the question of whether or not you believe that NW has been involved in a large number of "questionable" deals at CCFC and previously or the question of whether you were aware of Sol Bamba`s connection with the McKay family.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:24 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Let’s get it on and unite Cardiff City fans and save their season :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Annis Warnock will want his own backround team!

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:25 pm

Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Let’s get it on and unite Cardiff City fans and save their season :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Annis Warnock will want his own backround team!


Roger,

Let’s be honest we don’t have one at the moment with experience.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:47 pm

I just don’t know. I like Neil, don’t like his football never have. He is a relegation firefighter though, that’s what we need right now. Results.

But putting Smithies on 30k a week, wasting big bucks on Madine, Murphy, Reid (look what happened there) Chamack, The crock Vassell, I could go on, carefree and reckless with Tans money .

It’s the state we are in, that we are pinning out survival on a retired 74 year old. Bloody hell munn.

Not for me. I just want a new owner and a new chapter , a new beginning. Our full identity back. If Warnock appointment plays some part in Tan eventually seeking on, then so be it I just want those 3 clowns out of my club. We and the other blues at Everton have so much in common right now.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:11 pm

Well, if anyone knows what is what, it will be his 'matrs' at talkSPORT... ;)
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:14 pm

I’d only consider Warnock for the short term just to keep us up. He’s a disaster with money to spend (not saying we have any!) and I’d prefer us to continue to play some football. So give him 5 months then recruit properly in the summer.
Depends what options we have though and who shows an interest in the role

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:31 pm

Long term planning (till May) needs to go out of the window and our mindsets. Warnock in, tighten it up, bit of magic in the free/loan/call a mate market and keep us up.

Relegation will destroy us.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:40 pm

Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:ROTHERHAM / MIDDLESBROUGH / CARDIFF CITY

Neil Warnock saved All three clubs from relegation

Plus 8 promotions, how can anyone doubt his credentials

CARDIFF CITY NEED HIM NOW TO SAVE US

Till the end of the season Warnock & Sol Bamba


But do you agree that Neil Warnock got involved in some very questionable activities when he was manager here, and at previous clubs?

Is Sol Bamba still a client of Willie McKay`s son (he was when he signed for us)?


I agree that Tan & Dalman over saw everything and they had to sign it all of.

We had abd gave this famous CCFC Committee do we not who over see everything.

Keith, your not stupid the buck stops at the top and Tan and Dalman have to accept results.


But you haven`t answered either question. What are your opinions on the questions I asked?

I agree entirely that the board of directors and owner are culpable in allowing Neil Warnock to get away with certain things which if the directors had the "balls" to stand up to the owner wouldn`t have happened like the very dodgy structure of the deal he negotiated with his friend Willie McKay. They should also have questioned and refused to sign off some of the transfer deals he did for the financial benefit of his son. Accusations of taking money from players to select them are a different matter.

So the board and owner are at fault themselves but it was Neil Warnock who instigated and pushed for these things. Because of that I personally wouldn`t want him back anywhere near our club.



Of course Warnock found the player and wanted him and negotiated with the backing of The Regime / The Committee who had the final say.


1. Did NW really find the player or was the deal put to him by his friend Willie McKay as one that would be lucrative all round (apart from for Cardiff City FC)
2. Vincent Tan , as the sole decision maker in all major matters, was very much at fault for allowing it to happen when, yet again , his lack of football knowledge and lack of willingness to take advice from anyone with such knowledge alowed the deal to take place
3. The CCFC CEO and Chair have both said publicly that they didn`t want the deal to happen but either couldn`t or wouldn`t stand up to Vincent Tan to prevent it from happening so they are also at fault. The only person with a final say was (and still is) Vincent Tan , as is the case in all the other businesses he owns.


You still haven`t answered the question of whether or not you believe that NW has been involved in a large number of "questionable" deals at CCFC and previously or the question of whether you were aware of Sol Bamba`s connection with the McKay family.


This is why Warnock shouldn't be allowed ANY permanent signings if he comes back. He'll keep us up with a few extra loans i'm sure. Warnock worked a miracle getting us to the prem, but was dire in the transfer market towards the end. His dealings badly damaged us long term. Also, There's Too many unanswered questions about links with agents etc.....Should Tan restrict his signings to Loans and maybe the odd free agent at a push?

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:47 pm

Tan won’t spend any money anyway so it would only be loans.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 7:22 pm

In the circumstances I agree warnock is the man to keep us up, BUT...
1 he's not the guy to take us forward, albeit I'd be happy to see him in a DOF role. That said at his re ent show in St davids hall he said he hated tge DOF role.
2 we currently do not have a squad capa le of playing warlocks style.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 7:29 pm

pontlliwblue wrote:In the circumstances I agree warnock is the man to keep us up, BUT...
1 he's not the guy to take us forward, albeit I'd be happy to see him in a DOF role. That said at his re ent show in St davids hall he said he hated tge DOF role.
2 we currently do not have a squad capa le of playing warlocks style.

You are right; NW always maintained that as a manager, he didn't want to work under a DoF

Maybe, if he had, he would have done even better? :?

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:28 pm

davids wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:ROTHERHAM / MIDDLESBROUGH / CARDIFF CITY

Neil Warnock saved All three clubs from relegation

Plus 8 promotions, how can anyone doubt his credentials

CARDIFF CITY NEED HIM NOW TO SAVE US

Till the end of the season Warnock & Sol Bamba


Whilst in many ways it would be a backwards step I just can't think of anybody else who would give us the best chance of surviving this season.

Would Sol come back? If I remember he wasn't too happy with the way things ended for him at Cardiff.

Backward step?? :lol: you can’t get anymore backwards than we are now.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:53 pm

Igovernor wrote:Lets get one thing out of the way, When Dalman told Hudson that there was no contact with Warnock it was a allegedly a lie.
Dalman had contact with Warnock weeks ago, but there is no way that he was going to tell Hudson that.


We are looking to bring Warnock in till the end of the season, whether he wants the job or not is unknown at the moment,
The board have said they are looking for a permenant manager immediately, that is true but only for next season, not for this one.



It s a mess down city, I like Hudson, but it needed someone with experience and he should never have been put in the position, as he was marked down to fail. Lets hope that the board pay the money and get in a good manager.

Dyche would be the one for me but I am wondering why has he been out of a job for so long, is it because he is still looking for a job in the premier or that he wants more money than championship clubs are prepared to pay, as i do not think it would be down to wanting big money to bring in players, as he kept Burnley in the premier on a shoestring.

I wonder what more drama is in store for us city fans :banghead:


Roger

Just to clarify the club has made it perfectly clear today that there was no meeting between Mehmet Dalman at the Vale last week. Furthermore there has not been a meeting between the two of them for a couple of years, there or anywhere else.

Not sure where the rumour started or who started it - probably some unnamed "reliable source".

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:08 pm

Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Lets get one thing out of the way, When Dalman told Hudson that there was no contact with Warnock it was a allegedly a lie.
Dalman had contact with Warnock weeks ago, but there is no way that he was going to tell Hudson that.


We are looking to bring Warnock in till the end of the season, whether he wants the job or not is unknown at the moment,
The board have said they are looking for a permenant manager immediately, that is true but only for next season, not for this one.



It s a mess down city, I like Hudson, but it needed someone with experience and he should never have been put in the position, as he was marked down to fail. Lets hope that the board pay the money and get in a good manager.

Dyche would be the one for me but I am wondering why has he been out of a job for so long, is it because he is still looking for a job in the premier or that he wants more money than championship clubs are prepared to pay, as i do not think it would be down to wanting big money to bring in players, as he kept Burnley in the premier on a shoestring.

I wonder what more drama is in store for us city fans :banghead:


Roger

Just to clarify the club has made it perfectly clear today that there was no meeting between Mehmet Dalman at the Vale last week. Furthermore there has not been a meeting between the two of them for a couple of years, there or anywhere else.

Not sure where the rumour started or who started it - probably some unnamed "reliable source".

Mmmmmmm the meeting that never happened was not lsst week but a couple of weeks ago. I am sorry but i just do not beieve the club :roll:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:36 pm

Igovernor wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Lets get one thing out of the way, When Dalman told Hudson that there was no contact with Warnock it was a allegedly a lie.
Dalman had contact with Warnock weeks ago, but there is no way that he was going to tell Hudson that.


We are looking to bring Warnock in till the end of the season, whether he wants the job or not is unknown at the moment,
The board have said they are looking for a permenant manager immediately, that is true but only for next season, not for this one.



It s a mess down city, I like Hudson, but it needed someone with experience and he should never have been put in the position, as he was marked down to fail. Lets hope that the board pay the money and get in a good manager.

Dyche would be the one for me but I am wondering why has he been out of a job for so long, is it because he is still looking for a job in the premier or that he wants more money than championship clubs are prepared to pay, as i do not think it would be down to wanting big money to bring in players, as he kept Burnley in the premier on a shoestring.

I wonder what more drama is in store for us city fans :banghead:


Roger

Just to clarify the club has made it perfectly clear today that there was no meeting between Mehmet Dalman at the Vale last week. Furthermore there has not been a meeting between the two of them for a couple of years, there or anywhere else.

Not sure where the rumour started or who started it - probably some unnamed "reliable source".

Mmmmmmm the meeting that never happened was not lsst week but a couple of weeks ago. I am sorry but i just do not beieve the club :roll:


I am always quite cynical about statements issued by the club but in this case at least the Chair is willing to be quoted as saying a meeting didn`t happen. It would be helpful if the person saying that he evidenced the meeting taking place would be willing to put his real name to it and a date. Then at least people can have a better chance of telling who is telling the truth and be critical of the party who isn`t

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:12 am

The club are speaking to Neil. If he comes in, it will be till end of the season...

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:17 am

Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Lets get one thing out of the way, When Dalman told Hudson that there was no contact with Warnock it was a allegedly a lie.
Dalman had contact with Warnock weeks ago, but there is no way that he was going to tell Hudson that.


We are looking to bring Warnock in till the end of the season, whether he wants the job or not is unknown at the moment,
The board have said they are looking for a permenant manager immediately, that is true but only for next season, not for this one.



It s a mess down city, I like Hudson, but it needed someone with experience and he should never have been put in the position, as he was marked down to fail. Lets hope that the board pay the money and get in a good manager.

Dyche would be the one for me but I am wondering why has he been out of a job for so long, is it because he is still looking for a job in the premier or that he wants more money than championship clubs are prepared to pay, as i do not think it would be down to wanting big money to bring in players, as he kept Burnley in the premier on a shoestring.

I wonder what more drama is in store for us city fans :banghead:


Roger

Just to clarify the club has made it perfectly clear today that there was no meeting between Mehmet Dalman at the Vale last week. Furthermore there has not been a meeting between the two of them for a couple of years, there or anywhere else.

Not sure where the rumour started or who started it - probably some unnamed "reliable source".

Mmmmmmm the meeting that never happened was not lsst week but a couple of weeks ago. I am sorry but i just do not beieve the club :roll:


I am always quite cynical about statements issued by the club but in this case at least the Chair is willing to be quoted as saying a meeting didn`t happen. It would be helpful if the person saying that he evidenced the meeting taking place would be willing to put his real name to it and a date. Then at least people can have a better chance of telling who is telling the truth and be critical of the party who isn`t

Warnock was shopping in cowbridge last week,as he likes dai johns, I think people seen him there and put two and two together.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:23 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Lets get one thing out of the way, When Dalman told Hudson that there was no contact with Warnock it was a allegedly a lie.
Dalman had contact with Warnock weeks ago, but there is no way that he was going to tell Hudson that.


We are looking to bring Warnock in till the end of the season, whether he wants the job or not is unknown at the moment,
The board have said they are looking for a permenant manager immediately, that is true but only for next season, not for this one.



It s a mess down city, I like Hudson, but it needed someone with experience and he should never have been put in the position, as he was marked down to fail. Lets hope that the board pay the money and get in a good manager.

Dyche would be the one for me but I am wondering why has he been out of a job for so long, is it because he is still looking for a job in the premier or that he wants more money than championship clubs are prepared to pay, as i do not think it would be down to wanting big money to bring in players, as he kept Burnley in the premier on a shoestring.

I wonder what more drama is in store for us city fans :banghead:


Roger

Just to clarify the club has made it perfectly clear today that there was no meeting between Mehmet Dalman at the Vale last week. Furthermore there has not been a meeting between the two of them for a couple of years, there or anywhere else.

Not sure where the rumour started or who started it - probably some unnamed "reliable source".

Mmmmmmm the meeting that never happened was not lsst week but a couple of weeks ago. I am sorry but i just do not beieve the club :roll:


I am always quite cynical about statements issued by the club but in this case at least the Chair is willing to be quoted as saying a meeting didn`t happen. It would be helpful if the person saying that he evidenced the meeting taking place would be willing to put his real name to it and a date. Then at least people can have a better chance of telling who is telling the truth and be critical of the party who isn`t

Warnock was shopping in cowbridge last week,as he likes dai johns, I think people seen him there and put two and two together.

Wez, long way to go for Warnock to do some shopping :laughing5:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:25 pm

If he can go on the radio and say no he isnt going to Cardiff then does, well he is another one along with Dalman who cant be believed.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:33 pm

1980s Bluebird wrote:If he can go on the radio and say no he isnt going to Cardiff then does, well he is another one along with Dalman who cant be believed.

Not what I heard he said he would not mind having a go at the plymouth job when asked about city :laughing6:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:38 pm

Igovernor wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Lets get one thing out of the way, When Dalman told Hudson that there was no contact with Warnock it was a allegedly a lie.
Dalman had contact with Warnock weeks ago, but there is no way that he was going to tell Hudson that.


We are looking to bring Warnock in till the end of the season, whether he wants the job or not is unknown at the moment,
The board have said they are looking for a permenant manager immediately, that is true but only for next season, not for this one.



It s a mess down city, I like Hudson, but it needed someone with experience and he should never have been put in the position, as he was marked down to fail. Lets hope that the board pay the money and get in a good manager.

Dyche would be the one for me but I am wondering why has he been out of a job for so long, is it because he is still looking for a job in the premier or that he wants more money than championship clubs are prepared to pay, as i do not think it would be down to wanting big money to bring in players, as he kept Burnley in the premier on a shoestring.

I wonder what more drama is in store for us city fans :banghead:


Roger

Just to clarify the club has made it perfectly clear today that there was no meeting between Mehmet Dalman at the Vale last week. Furthermore there has not been a meeting between the two of them for a couple of years, there or anywhere else.

Not sure where the rumour started or who started it - probably some unnamed "reliable source".

Mmmmmmm the meeting that never happened was not lsst week but a couple of weeks ago. I am sorry but i just do not beieve the club :roll:


I am always quite cynical about statements issued by the club but in this case at least the Chair is willing to be quoted as saying a meeting didn`t happen. It would be helpful if the person saying that he evidenced the meeting taking place would be willing to put his real name to it and a date. Then at least people can have a better chance of telling who is telling the truth and be critical of the party who isn`t

Warnock was shopping in cowbridge last week,as he likes dai johns, I think people seen him there and put two and two together.

Wez, long way to go for Warnock to do some shopping :laughing5:

Dai johns is a farmers type clothing store and diy etc type of place you get your tweed jackets etc .

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:56 pm

Plymuff Bloobird wrote:My thought was exactly the same,we have apparently had the embargo taken away but now don't have a manager to get any players in.
Absolute bloody circus


Circus is absolutely correct, run by clowns. :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:11 pm

Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:ROTHERHAM / MIDDLESBROUGH / CARDIFF CITY

Neil Warnock saved All three clubs from relegation

Plus 8 promotions, how can anyone doubt his credentials

CARDIFF CITY NEED HIM NOW TO SAVE US

Till the end of the season Warnock & Sol Bamba


But do you agree that Neil Warnock got involved in some very questionable activities when he was manager here, and at previous clubs?

Is Sol Bamba still a client of Willie McKay`s son (he was when he signed for us)?


I agree that Tan & Dalman over saw everything and they had to sign it all of.

We had abd gave this famous CCFC Committee do we not who over see everything.

Keith, your not stupid the buck stops at the top and Tan and Dalman have to accept results.


But you haven`t answered either question. What are your opinions on the questions I asked?

I agree entirely that the board of directors and owner are culpable in allowing Neil Warnock to get away with certain things which if the directors had the "balls" to stand up to the owner wouldn`t have happened like the very dodgy structure of the deal he negotiated with his friend Willie McKay. They should also have questioned and refused to sign off some of the transfer deals he did for the financial benefit of his son. Accusations of taking money from players to select them are a different matter.

So the board and owner are at fault themselves but it was Neil Warnock who instigated and pushed for these things. Because of that I personally wouldn`t want him back anywhere near our club.



Of course Warnock found the player and wanted him and negotiated with the backing of The Regime / The Committee who had the final say.


1. Did NW really find the player or was the deal put to him by his friend Willie McKay as one that would be lucrative all round (apart from for Cardiff City FC)
2. Vincent Tan , as the sole decision maker in all major matters, was very much at fault for allowing it to happen when, yet again , his lack of football knowledge and lack of willingness to take advice from anyone with such knowledge alowed the deal to take place
3. The CCFC CEO and Chair have both said publicly that they didn`t want the deal to happen but either couldn`t or wouldn`t stand up to Vincent Tan to prevent it from happening so they are also at fault. The only person with a final say was (and still is) Vincent Tan , as is the case in all the other businesses he owns.


You still haven`t answered the question of whether or not you believe that NW has been involved in a large number of "questionable" deals at CCFC and previously or the question of whether you were aware of Sol Bamba`s connection with the McKay family.


I would like that to be clarified also, because a lot of accusations have been made against Warnock and would like to know whether they are true or just rumours.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:20 pm

rontom wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:ROTHERHAM / MIDDLESBROUGH / CARDIFF CITY

Neil Warnock saved All three clubs from relegation

Plus 8 promotions, how can anyone doubt his credentials

CARDIFF CITY NEED HIM NOW TO SAVE US

Till the end of the season Warnock & Sol Bamba


But do you agree that Neil Warnock got involved in some very questionable activities when he was manager here, and at previous clubs?

Is Sol Bamba still a client of Willie McKay`s son (he was when he signed for us)?


I agree that Tan & Dalman over saw everything and they had to sign it all of.

We had abd gave this famous CCFC Committee do we not who over see everything.

Keith, your not stupid the buck stops at the top and Tan and Dalman have to accept results.


But you haven`t answered either question. What are your opinions on the questions I asked?

I agree entirely that the board of directors and owner are culpable in allowing Neil Warnock to get away with certain things which if the directors had the "balls" to stand up to the owner wouldn`t have happened like the very dodgy structure of the deal he negotiated with his friend Willie McKay. They should also have questioned and refused to sign off some of the transfer deals he did for the financial benefit of his son. Accusations of taking money from players to select them are a different matter.

So the board and owner are at fault themselves but it was Neil Warnock who instigated and pushed for these things. Because of that I personally wouldn`t want him back anywhere near our club.



Of course Warnock found the player and wanted him and negotiated with the backing of The Regime / The Committee who had the final say.


1. Did NW really find the player or was the deal put to him by his friend Willie McKay as one that would be lucrative all round (apart from for Cardiff City FC)
2. Vincent Tan , as the sole decision maker in all major matters, was very much at fault for allowing it to happen when, yet again , his lack of football knowledge and lack of willingness to take advice from anyone with such knowledge alowed the deal to take place
3. The CCFC CEO and Chair have both said publicly that they didn`t want the deal to happen but either couldn`t or wouldn`t stand up to Vincent Tan to prevent it from happening so they are also at fault. The only person with a final say was (and still is) Vincent Tan , as is the case in all the other businesses he owns.


You still haven`t answered the question of whether or not you believe that NW has been involved in a large number of "questionable" deals at CCFC and previously or the question of whether you were aware of Sol Bamba`s connection with the McKay family.


I would like that to be clarified also, because a lot of accusations have been made against Warnock and would like to know whether they are true or just rumours.

All of them rumours, If there was any truth whatsoever in these rumours the the EFL would have done something about it :thumbup:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:51 pm

Igovernor wrote:
rontom wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:ROTHERHAM / MIDDLESBROUGH / CARDIFF CITY

Neil Warnock saved All three clubs from relegation

Plus 8 promotions, how can anyone doubt his credentials

CARDIFF CITY NEED HIM NOW TO SAVE US

Till the end of the season Warnock & Sol Bamba


But do you agree that Neil Warnock got involved in some very questionable activities when he was manager here, and at previous clubs?

Is Sol Bamba still a client of Willie McKay`s son (he was when he signed for us)?


I agree that Tan & Dalman over saw everything and they had to sign it all of.

We had abd gave this famous CCFC Committee do we not who over see everything.

Keith, your not stupid the buck stops at the top and Tan and Dalman have to accept results.


But you haven`t answered either question. What are your opinions on the questions I asked?

I agree entirely that the board of directors and owner are culpable in allowing Neil Warnock to get away with certain things which if the directors had the "balls" to stand up to the owner wouldn`t have happened like the very dodgy structure of the deal he negotiated with his friend Willie McKay. They should also have questioned and refused to sign off some of the transfer deals he did for the financial benefit of his son. Accusations of taking money from players to select them are a different matter.

So the board and owner are at fault themselves but it was Neil Warnock who instigated and pushed for these things. Because of that I personally wouldn`t want him back anywhere near our club.



Of course Warnock found the player and wanted him and negotiated with the backing of The Regime / The Committee who had the final say.


1. Did NW really find the player or was the deal put to him by his friend Willie McKay as one that would be lucrative all round (apart from for Cardiff City FC)
2. Vincent Tan , as the sole decision maker in all major matters, was very much at fault for allowing it to happen when, yet again , his lack of football knowledge and lack of willingness to take advice from anyone with such knowledge alowed the deal to take place
3. The CCFC CEO and Chair have both said publicly that they didn`t want the deal to happen but either couldn`t or wouldn`t stand up to Vincent Tan to prevent it from happening so they are also at fault. The only person with a final say was (and still is) Vincent Tan , as is the case in all the other businesses he owns.


You still haven`t answered the question of whether or not you believe that NW has been involved in a large number of "questionable" deals at CCFC and previously or the question of whether you were aware of Sol Bamba`s connection with the McKay family.


I would like that to be clarified also, because a lot of accusations have been made against Warnock and would like to know whether they are true or just rumours.

All of them rumours, If there was any truth whatsoever in these rumours the the EFL would have done something about it :thumbup:


None of the following are rumours but facts that can be readily checked with a little bit of online research

1. Neil Warnock was the manager at QPR when they signed Joey Barton from Newcastle in a transfer certain aspects of which were investigated by the authorities at the time. The agent involved was Willie McKay.

2. The EFL investigated transfers involving Neil Warnock as club manager and football agents employing his son James on at least three occasions - Crystal Palace, Sheffield United and Cardiff City. No charges or disciplinary action was taken despite their concerns as the wording of the relevant EFL Regulations was deemed to have not been breached in strict legal terms.

3. Both Rowan Vine (ex QPR) and a former Crystal Palace player whose name escapes me at the moment have made public statements saying that Neil Warnock asked them to make a payment to him in exchange for them being selected to play in his teams and thereby qualify for appearance money.

4. Sol Bamba`s agent when he signed for us was Mark McKay,( son of Willie McKay) who was also the licenced intermediary involved with his father in the Emiliano Sala transfer deal. Nothing wrong with the Sol transfer per se but just illustrates that Neil Warnock retained a working relationship with the McKay family over a considerable period of time.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK

Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:01 pm

Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Lets get one thing out of the way, When Dalman told Hudson that there was no contact with Warnock it was a allegedly a lie.
Dalman had contact with Warnock weeks ago, but there is no way that he was going to tell Hudson that.


We are looking to bring Warnock in till the end of the season, whether he wants the job or not is unknown at the moment,
The board have said they are looking for a permenant manager immediately, that is true but only for next season, not for this one.



It s a mess down city, I like Hudson, but it needed someone with experience and he should never have been put in the position, as he was marked down to fail. Lets hope that the board pay the money and get in a good manager.

Dyche would be the one for me but I am wondering why has he been out of a job for so long, is it because he is still looking for a job in the premier or that he wants more money than championship clubs are prepared to pay, as i do not think it would be down to wanting big money to bring in players, as he kept Burnley in the premier on a shoestring.

I wonder what more drama is in store for us city fans :banghead:


Roger

Just to clarify the club has made it perfectly clear today that there was no meeting between Mehmet Dalman at the Vale last week. Furthermore there has not been a meeting between the two of them for a couple of years, there or anywhere else.

Not sure where the rumour started or who started it - probably some unnamed "reliable source".

Mmmmmmm the meeting that never happened was not lsst week but a couple of weeks ago. I am sorry but i just do not beieve the club :roll:


I am always quite cynical about statements issued by the club but in this case at least the Chair is willing to be quoted as saying a meeting didn`t happen. It would be helpful if the person saying that he evidenced the meeting taking place would be willing to put his real name to it and a date. Then at least people can have a better chance of telling who is telling the truth and be critical of the party who isn`t


Has the "reliable source " been located yet and are they willing to put their name to their claim that they saw a meeting between NW and MD?

As I say above , I remain cynical about a number of club statements but surely it is more believable if one party is willing to make a public statement on the issue in his own name that would then face a lot of grief if proved to be untrue or misleading ( I would be one of the first to give such grief) rather than an anonymous claim without any substantive evidence to support it.