So does anyone think we are staying up?

The very fact that this question needs to be asked is worrying.

10 years ago we were sitting on top of the Championship. Today is the measurement of our decline.

100%

No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

100% stay up and anyone wanting their own club relegated is fucked up

anyone wanting the current owners is fecked up!

they are now bordering on worse than tony clemo, and that says a lot bearing in mind what we did to try and get rid of him!!!

I also remember those days and owners since have used us so let's not separate them.

Present owner needs to go, on that it's mainly agreed but here's hoping for someone fresh and ready.

Warnock will be back in a firefighting role before the end of March!

That's interesting, Matthew. Enlighten us, please...

Nah, he will distance himself from us now. IMHO.

No, not unless we can sign at least one or hopefully two strikers of a certain quality.
The current forwards will see us relegated.
It's up to the owner and board where they want us playing next season!

No, not unless we can sign at least one or hopefully two strikers of a certain quality.
The current forwards will see us relegated.
It's up to the owner and board where they want us playing next season!

Unfortunately it’s out of the owner and boards hands, we are under a transfer embargo so we can’t sign anyone of note that costs anything, where have you been, haven’t you heard

No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

Exactly Allan. Some on here have already got us relegated

First time in years , I think we will go down …at game yesterday and we look really poor

Going down as we cannot strengthen in January like our rivals

No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

Exactly Allan. Some on here have already got us relegated

Do the other clubs have an Embargo?

Yes some of us do have us as down already but the thing is you can understand why.

No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

Exactly Allan. Some on here have already got us relegated

Do the other clubs have an Embargo?

Yes some of us do have us as down already but the thing is you can understand why.

Firstly would we have signed anyone in window ? Probably not if go by what's been said so embargo almost sideshow.... other clubs may not be under embargo but except for top end teams now many clubs down bottom will spend money or get in decent players to help them out of predicament probably 1 or 2 if lucky... can see why say relegation but base it on clubs owners and not what's happening on pitch! We create the chances like we did yesterday on a frequent basis... when we stop doing that then be worried .... qpr top 5 and yet we reduced them to next to nothing 1 shot on target which was a nothing shot.. so was performance that bad? My concern is hudsons tactically neuse players in wrong positions and use of subs which is very poor.... may not go down this season but without a proper manager we will go down next season almost certainly... this squad is nowhere near as bad as been made out we've seen that in displays in several games like huddersfield its Hudsons tactics that are the problem.

It’s time to protest

100% stay up and anyone wanting their own club relegated is fucked up

Yes I think we will stay up another couple of wins and we will be ok

The very fact that this question needs to be asked is worrying.

10 years ago we were sitting on top of the Championship. Today is the measurement of our decline.

We were promoted so unless we stayed in premier league we declined until NW promotion then weve declined since then... football is all about ups and downs even the very best have suffered from it most recently man u springs to mind.

No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

Exactly Allan. Some on here have already got us relegated

Do the other clubs have an Embargo?

Yes some of us do have us as down already but the thing is you can understand why.

Firstly would we have signed anyone in window ? Probably not if go by what's been said so embargo almost sideshow.... other clubs may not be under embargo but except for top end teams now many clubs down bottom will spend money or get in decent players to help them out of predicament probably 1 or 2 if lucky... can see why say relegation but base it on clubs owners and not what's happening on pitch! We create the chances like we did yesterday on a frequent basis... when we stop doing that then be worried .... qpr top 5 and yet we reduced them to next to nothing 1 shot on target which was a nothing shot.. so was performance that bad? My concern is hudsons tactically neuse players in wrong positions and use of subs which is very poor.... may not go down this season but without a proper manager we will go down next season almost certainly... this squad is nowhere near as bad as been made out we've seen that in displays in several games like huddersfield its Hudsons tactics that are the problem.

I know one player that we had already agreed to Sign, Lennon Peake, a fact.

Of course puppet Hudson is now making out the squad is full of quality and big, same old strong every puppet manager keeps saying under the Dictator.

We actually have some good players, but not enough, no leader or good striker and we have an inexperienced manager once again.

No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

Exactly Allan. Some on here have already got us relegated

Do the other clubs have an Embargo?

Yes some of us do have us as down already but the thing is you can understand why.

Firstly would we have signed anyone in window ? Probably not if go by what's been said so embargo almost sideshow.... other clubs may not be under embargo but except for top end teams now many clubs down bottom will spend money or get in decent players to help them out of predicament probably 1 or 2 if lucky... can see why say relegation but base it on clubs owners and not what's happening on pitch! We create the chances like we did yesterday on a frequent basis... when we stop doing that then be worried .... qpr top 5 and yet we reduced them to next to nothing 1 shot on target which was a nothing shot.. so was performance that bad? My concern is hudsons tactically neuse players in wrong positions and use of subs which is very poor.... may not go down this season but without a proper manager we will go down next season almost certainly... this squad is nowhere near as bad as been made out we've seen that in displays in several games like huddersfield its Hudsons tactics that are the problem.

I know one player that we had already agreed to Sign, Lennon Peake, a fact.

Did say sign one .... why club don't sign him when got space is stupid considering the reports on him ... but as you say club is a mess ...and have said for a very long time Hudson is the problem why we are where we are and next season if he is still here we will be relegated if manage to escape this season.

No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

Exactly Allan. Some on here have already got us relegated

Do the other clubs have an Embargo?

Yes some of us do have us as down already but the thing is you can understand why.

Firstly would we have signed anyone in window ? Probably not if go by what's been said so embargo almost sideshow.... other clubs may not be under embargo but except for top end teams now many clubs down bottom will spend money or get in decent players to help them out of predicament probably 1 or 2 if lucky... can see why say relegation but base it on clubs owners and not what's happening on pitch! We create the chances like we did yesterday on a frequent basis... when we stop doing that then be worried .... qpr top 5 and yet we reduced them to next to nothing 1 shot on target which was a nothing shot.. so was performance that bad? My concern is hudsons tactically neuse players in wrong positions and use of subs which is very poor.... may not go down this season but without a proper manager we will go down next season almost certainly... this squad is nowhere near as bad as been made out we've seen that in displays in several games like huddersfield its Hudsons tactics that are the problem.

I know one player that we had already agreed to Sign, Lennon Peake, a fact.

Did say sign one .... why club don't sign him when got space is stupid considering the reports on him ... but as you say club is a mess .

Allan, the lad was due to come down and sign over 10 days ago and then they said they had to delay it for a week, now they’ve told the truth we are under an embargo.
Also he is not a free transfer etc we were paying something after so many games etc.

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No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

Exactly Allan. Some on here have already got us relegated

Do the other clubs have an Embargo?

Yes some of us do have us as down already but the thing is you can understand why.

Firstly would we have signed anyone in window ? Probably not if go by what's been said so embargo almost sideshow.... other clubs may not be under embargo but except for top end teams now many clubs down bottom will spend money or get in decent players to help them out of predicament probably 1 or 2 if lucky... can see why say relegation but base it on clubs owners and not what's happening on pitch! We create the chances like we did yesterday on a frequent basis... when we stop doing that then be worried .... qpr top 5 and yet we reduced them to next to nothing 1 shot on target which was a nothing shot.. so was performance that bad? My concern is hudsons tactically neuse players in wrong positions and use of subs which is very poor.... may not go down this season but without a proper manager we will go down next season almost certainly... this squad is nowhere near as bad as been made out we've seen that in displays in several games like huddersfield its Hudsons tactics that are the problem.

I know one player that we had already agreed to Sign, Lennon Peake, a fact.

Did say sign one .... why club don't sign him when got space is stupid considering the reports on him ... but as you say club is a mess .

Allan, the lad was due to come down and sign over 10 days ago and then they said they had to delay it for a week, now they’ve told the truth we are under an embargo.
Also he is not a free transfer etc we were paying something after so many games etc.

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The embargo shouldn't stop him coming as allowed 23 players ..... unless what was wanted in appearance money was over the limits set by embargo so making
it financially unviable ... bit for whatever reason he appears to be a loss when can least afford it

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Depends. If 1 or 2 teams get points deductions between now any May we may stay up by the skin of our teeth.

If not, I do see us finishing in the bottom 3 playing boring, toothless football and eeking out draws which will not save us from the drop.

Yes we will stay up, the teams good enough. Those giving the team the thumbs down go and support another team your not 100% Bluebird fans just people who have nothing better to do than run the team down.

Yes we will stay up, the teams good enough. Those giving the team the thumbs down go and support another team your not 100% Bluebird fans just people who have nothing better to do than run the team down.

oh the old not a true bluebird fan sad argument, always makes me laugh, you should have heard what annis and we all used to say in the 80's and 90's, about club, managers, players and owners - but we stood together, travelled together and made sure we were heard, not creep and crawl around millionaire's and useless non-football owners.

opinions - that's football - speak up and out, that's what its all about

I think we’ll stay up.
Last night was utter shite but we’re unbeaten in 3, creating chance in most games and I’m confident we’ll do it.

We'll stay up.........just.

Hoping we go down so that we get rid of Tan is as bad as people hoping we lose to get rid of a manager in my opinion. I have never wanted Cardiff to lose for any reason & just don't understand why anyone would.

We'll stay up.........just.

Hoping we go down so that we get rid of Tan is as bad as people hoping we lose to get rid of a manager in my opinion. I have never wanted Cardiff to lose for any reason & just don't understand why anyone would.

Because people are blinded by one thing and dont look at the consequences of what they say? Relegation is a disaster for any club no matter the internal situation at a club ....

We'll stay up.........just.

Hoping we go down so that we get rid of Tan is as bad as people hoping we lose to get rid of a manager in my opinion. I have never wanted Cardiff to lose for any reason & just don't understand why anyone would.

Because people are blinded by one thing and dont look at the consequences of what they say? Relegation is a disaster for any club no matter the internal situation at a club ....

You make a valid point there, Allan...

We'll stay up.........just.

Hoping we go down so that we get rid of Tan is as bad as people hoping we lose to get rid of a manager in my opinion. I have never wanted Cardiff to lose for any reason & just don't understand why anyone would.

Because people are blinded by one thing and dont look at the consequences of what they say? Relegation is a disaster for any club no matter the internal situation at a club ....

People seem to think relegation means a simple reset and then challenge for promotion again. There are far bigger clubs than us who have struggled/are struggling to get out of L1. Relegation would be a complete disaster for us given our current situation.

No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

Exactly Allan. Some on here have already got us relegated

Do the other clubs have an Embargo?

Yes some of us do have us as down already but the thing is you can understand why.

Yes reading are under an embargo and have been for a year or so but they are doing ok

No, I feel we are going down.

Anyone calling me negative......I'm going to call them deluded.

people being positive are called deluded frequently on here ... so guess being negative is just being negative what else can they be called?? Because
Both attitudes are just a state of mind.....

Very true, it is a state of mind.

At least being negative you have not got far to fall. That's the reality of it all.

Also they have a lot better players than us.



Depends on what height your falling from? But going on this question would it be same if we had same points but 7 more goals We would then be 18th! So personally being negative is a bit premature .... wonder if the other clubs on our 27points or less are fearing relegation like some on here are?

Exactly Allan. Some on here have already got us relegated

Do the other clubs have an Embargo?

Yes some of us do have us as down already but the thing is you can understand why.

Yes reading are under an embargo and have been for a year or so but they are doing ok