Tan lovers or regime

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

Aye that's right.

But you are wrong in your assessment. Most who accepted it did so because of the threat of winding up orders. No one and I mean no one wanted it but went along with it because of that and that only. Tan basically black mailed us. A bit like having a gun put to your head while the robber threatens to rape your family. In our case we were raped by having the Soul of our club destroyed.

Also bollocks. It’s what people say now but they didn’t at the time.

Red or dead was bollocks. It was clear if that was said it wasn’t true. Tan stabilised us by then. What he did say was that he wouldn’t invest heavily and would seek alternative investment.

Most fans wanted that investment.

You, like Annis deserve respect for standing up for your beliefs. I wanted investment and wasn’t arsed about the colour. That doesn’t make me less of a fan than you.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

I was at every meeting, were you Neil?

We were told to our faces , NOTHING WOULD BE CHANGED

Then a few days later all change

Many were lied to red or dead.


Your right many who were glory hunters and fans who had not been going long did not care and where were they yrs ago? And where are they now?

Neil posted this guy was a bigger fan than me. I wonder if Neil thinks that now of him?

Neil,

Has been honest to me regarding the rebrand that he was not around during rebrand so never felt Ian what we felt.

Ian, you are 100% a true fan and stood up to the Tan bullies with all their threats etc


This week I spoke to head of sport and asked them why Media Wales backed the rebrand , they were told by Jenkins it was 100% red or dead and that’s why they did it.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

I was at every meeting, were you Neil?

We were told to our faces , NOTHING WOULD BE CHANGED

Then a few days later all change

Many were lied to red or dead.


Your right many who were glory hunters and fans who had not been going long did not care and where were they yrs ago? And where are they now?

Neil posted this guy was a bigger fan than me. I wonder if Neil thinks that now of him?

When did I ever post that?

You can’t use bollocks to support your side Ian.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

I was at every meeting, were you Neil?

We were told to our faces , NOTHING WOULD BE CHANGED

Then a few days later all change

Many were lied to red or dead.


Your right many who were glory hunters and fans who had not been going long did not care and where were they yrs ago? And where are they now?

Neil posted this guy was a bigger fan than me. I wonder if Neil thinks that now of him?

When did I ever post that?

You can’t use bollocks to support your side Ian.

It's not bollocks Neil. You definitely said it. Such things when accused you don't forget.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

I was at every meeting, were you Neil?

We were told to our faces , NOTHING WOULD BE CHANGED

Then a few days later all change

Many were lied to red or dead.


Your right many who were glory hunters and fans who had not been going long did not care and where were they yrs ago? And where are they now?

Neil posted this guy was a bigger fan than me. I wonder if Neil thinks that now of him?

Neil,

Has been honest to me regarding the rebrand that he was not around during rebrand so never felt Ian what we felt.

Ian, you are 100% a true fan and stood up to the Tan bullies with all their threats etc


This week I spoke to head of sport and asked them why Media Wales backed the rebrand , they were told by Jenkins it was 100% red or dead and that’s why they did it.

I wasn’t but I have friends who were. That meeting was awful.

When threats are made it doesn’t help at all.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

Aye that's right.

But you are wrong in your assessment. Most who accepted it did so because of the threat of winding up orders. No one and I mean no one wanted it but went along with it because of that and that only. Tan basically black mailed us. A bit like having a gun put to your head while the robber threatens to rape your family. In our case we were raped by having the Soul of our club destroyed.

Are you seriously comparing what happened to us to a family being raped.
My god.

Yeah, on an emotional level.

Well that’s ok then.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

I was at every meeting, were you Neil?

We were told to our faces , NOTHING WOULD BE CHANGED

Then a few days later all change

Many were lied to red or dead.


Your right many who were glory hunters and fans who had not been going long did not care and where were they yrs ago? And where are they now?

Neil posted this guy was a bigger fan than me. I wonder if Neil thinks that now of him?

When did I ever post that?

You can’t use bollocks to support your side Ian.

It's not bollocks Neil. You definitely said it. Such things when accused you don't forget.

Absolutely didn’t. In what context would I say that?

I’m dipping out of this debate. I’m not debating when you just make up bollocks.

Although I remember you saying you were happy with red as they had told you that you could have a seat in the directors box and a player living with you odd weeks of the month and a red Ferrari to drive him to matches in.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

Aye that's right.

But you are wrong in your assessment. Most who accepted it did so because of the threat of winding up orders. No one and I mean no one wanted it but went along with it because of that and that only. Tan basically black mailed us. A bit like having a gun put to your head while the robber threatens to rape your family. In our case we were raped by having the Soul of our club destroyed.

Are you seriously comparing what happened to us to a family being raped.
My god.

Yeah, on an emotional level.

Well that’s ok then.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Rape and making shite up.

Ian is such a class chap but the minute it comes to this debate he loses all semblance of rationality.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

I was at every meeting, were you Neil?

We were told to our faces , NOTHING WOULD BE CHANGED

Then a few days later all change

Many were lied to red or dead.


Your right many who were glory hunters and fans who had not been going long did not care and where were they yrs ago? And where are they now?

Neil posted this guy was a bigger fan than me. I wonder if Neil thinks that now of him?

Neil,

Has been honest to me regarding the rebrand that he was not around during rebrand so never felt Ian what we felt.

Ian, you are 100% a true fan and stood up to the Tan bullies with all their threats etc


This week I spoke to head of sport and asked them why Media Wales backed the rebrand , they were told by Jenkins it was 100% red or dead and that’s why they did it.

100% Red or dead, I remember that. As I have said above its why they got away with it. No one wanted the Red.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

I was at every meeting, were you Neil?

We were told to our faces , NOTHING WOULD BE CHANGED

Then a few days later all change

Many were lied to red or dead.


Your right many who were glory hunters and fans who had not been going long did not care and where were they yrs ago? And where are they now?

Neil posted this guy was a bigger fan than me. I wonder if Neil thinks that now of him?

Neil,

Has been honest to me regarding the rebrand that he was not around during rebrand so never felt Ian what we felt.

Ian, you are 100% a true fan and stood up to the Tan bullies with all their threats etc


This week I spoke to head of sport and asked them why Media Wales backed the rebrand , they were told by Jenkins it was 100% red or dead and that’s why they did it.

100% Red or dead, I remember that. As I have said above its why they got away with it. No one wanted the Red.

Who are you speaking for the whole of the Cardiff city’s support?

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

Aye that's right.

But you are wrong in your assessment. Most who accepted it did so because of the threat of winding up orders. No one and I mean no one wanted it but went along with it because of that and that only. Tan basically black mailed us. A bit like having a gun put to your head while the robber threatens to rape your family. In our case we were raped by having the Soul of our club destroyed.

Are you seriously comparing what happened to us to a family being raped.
My god.

Yeah, on an emotional level.

Well that’s ok then.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Rape and making shite up.

Ian is such a class chap but the minute it comes to this debate he loses all semblance of rationality.

Why should I be ashamed of myself? That's exactly what Tan has done to our club. I can't help it if you are that blind you can't see it.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

I was at every meeting, were you Neil?

We were told to our faces , NOTHING WOULD BE CHANGED

Then a few days later all change

Many were lied to red or dead.


Your right many who were glory hunters and fans who had not been going long did not care and where were they yrs ago? And where are they now?

Neil posted this guy was a bigger fan than me. I wonder if Neil thinks that now of him?

Neil,

Has been honest to me regarding the rebrand that he was not around during rebrand so never felt Ian what we felt.

Ian, you are 100% a true fan and stood up to the Tan bullies with all their threats etc


This week I spoke to head of sport and asked them why Media Wales backed the rebrand , they were told by Jenkins it was 100% red or dead and that’s why they did it.

100% Red or dead, I remember that. As I have said above its why they got away with it. No one wanted the Red.

Who are you speaking for the whole of the Cardiff city’s support?

Practically all of it yes. Even the Red Leader said he would rather us play in Blue but was willing to accept the change of colour for the investment.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

Aye that's right.

But you are wrong in your assessment. Most who accepted it did so because of the threat of winding up orders. No one and I mean no one wanted it but went along with it because of that and that only. Tan basically black mailed us. A bit like having a gun put to your head while the robber threatens to rape your family. In our case we were raped by having the Soul of our club destroyed.

Are you seriously comparing what happened to us to a family being raped.
My god.

Yeah, on an emotional level.

Well that’s ok then.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Rape and making shite up.

Ian is such a class chap but the minute it comes to this debate he loses all semblance of rationality.

Why should I be ashamed of myself? That's exactly what Tan has done to our club. I can't help it if you are that blind you can't see it.

I’m not referring to you views as you well know. I’m referring to you comparisons of a football club shirt changing colour to raping a family.

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

Aye that's right.

But you are wrong in your assessment. Most who accepted it did so because of the threat of winding up orders. No one and I mean no one wanted it but went along with it because of that and that only. Tan basically black mailed us. A bit like having a gun put to your head while the robber threatens to rape your family. In our case we were raped by having the Soul of our club destroyed.

Are you seriously comparing what happened to us to a family being raped.
My god.

Yeah, on an emotional level.

Well that’s ok then.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Rape and making shite up.

Ian is such a class chap but the minute it comes to this debate he loses all semblance of rationality.

Why should I be ashamed of myself? That's exactly what Tan has done to our club. I can't help it if you are that blind you can't see it.

I’m not referring to you views as you well know. I’m referring to you comparisons of a football club shirt changing colour to raping a family.

I wouldn’t bother. He’s so easy to tie in knots and he will just spout the same old bingo checklist of points that make no sense.

Look at his point about prefer to play in blue but want the investment.

LITERALLY THAT WAS THE 99% OF CARDIFF FANS. NO ONE WANTED TO PLAY IN RED IT WAS FOR INVESTMENT.

He is agreeing with my point above yet arguing still. Like I said ties himself in knots.

Lol. I can see that now.

I started this post because I'm fed up of people trying to push agendas and labelling anyone who doesn't agree a tan lover.
As far as I'm concerned all I want is what's best for my club, if there isn't anyone who will be better than tan atm he needs to stay, if there's someone who's going to buy us and move us forward then he needs to let this happen. All I care about is the future of the club.

What you want the best for our club, don’t make me laugh , the Dictator changed our identity for 4 years and made us a laughing stock and divided our club beyond and broke so many hearts

Well Tan 100% is not interested in the future of our club

If you really were there in the 80’s you would hate Tan beyond for what he did stripping us of our identity
Our club also should have an identity and ours is BLUE and not a badge with a worm on it.

Mate you don't know me or my history, any real Cardiff fan would always want what's best for the club no matter what.
Don't appreciate you questioning my history or loyalty

I started this post because I'm fed up of people trying to push agendas and labelling anyone who doesn't agree a tan lover.
As far as I'm concerned all I want is what's best for my club, if there isn't anyone who will be better than tan atm he needs to stay, if there's someone who's going to buy us and move us forward then he needs to let this happen. All I care about is the future of the club.

What you want the best for our club, don’t make me laugh , the Dictator changed our identity for 4 years and made us a laughing stock and divided our club beyond and broke so many hearts

Well Tan 100% is not interested in the future of our club

If you really were there in the 80’s you would hate Tan beyond for what he did stripping us of our identity
Our club also should have an identity and ours is BLUE and not a badge with a worm on it.

Mate you don't know me or my history, any real Cardiff fan would always want what's best for the club no matter what.
Don't appreciate you questioning my history or loyalty

Well said on any real fan wants what’s best for the club. Unfortunately some fans what what’s best for them club and other supporters don’t come into it.

Because as I allured to in a previous post the ideology of tan and Haman are very very close.

I started this post because I'm fed up of people trying to push agendas and labelling anyone who doesn't agree a tan lover.
As far as I'm concerned all I want is what's best for my club, if there isn't anyone who will be better than tan atm he needs to stay, if there's someone who's going to buy us and move us forward then he needs to let this happen. All I care about is the future of the club.

What you want the best for our club, don’t make me laugh , the Dictator changed our identity for 4 years and made us a laughing stock and divided our club beyond and broke so many hearts

Well Tan 100% is not interested in the future of our club

If you really were there in the 80’s you would hate Tan beyond for what he did stripping us of our identity
Our club also should have an identity and ours is BLUE and not a badge with a worm on it.

Mate you don't know me or my history, any real Cardiff fan would always want what's best for the club no matter what.
Don't appreciate you questioning my history or loyalty

What changing our identity and stripping us of our pride and beyond a laughing stock, I honestly don’t want to know you

I started this post because I'm fed up of people trying to push agendas and labelling anyone who doesn't agree a tan lover.
As far as I'm concerned all I want is what's best for my club, if there isn't anyone who will be better than tan atm he needs to stay, if there's someone who's going to buy us and move us forward then he needs to let this happen. All I care about is the future of the club.

What you want the best for our club, don’t make me laugh , the Dictator changed our identity for 4 years and made us a laughing stock and divided our club beyond and broke so many hearts

Well Tan 100% is not interested in the future of our club

If you really were there in the 80’s you would hate Tan beyond for what he did stripping us of our identity
Our club also should have an identity and ours is BLUE and not a badge with a worm on it.

Mate you don't know me or my history, any real Cardiff fan would always want what's best for the club no matter what.
Don't appreciate you questioning my history or loyalty

Well said on any real fan wants what’s best for the club. Unfortunately some fans what what’s best for them club and other supporters don’t come into it.

Because as I allured to in a previous post the ideology of tan and Haman are very very close.

Real fan??? , joke of a fan go and support Liverpool


I was there for 9 seasons in league 4 , never missed one home or away game and our crowds were 1,500-4,000
Away sometimes 11 -50 -100 fans

So where were our fans then ?

Just been brought to my attention:

That is such a load of rubbish.

He said he wouldn’t change our colours but wouldn’t invest the money he planned to. This resulted in a huge reverse from lots (not all) of fans.

We wanted the investment.

The majority didn’t seem to mind the red when we were winning the championship in Red with average crowds well over 22k. Higher than the previous season.

Granted there were people who hated the Red and stood their ground and they deserve massive respect, but most just wanted money in.

You can google the above. Supporters clubs were massively on board with changing colour to get investment.

Aye that's right.

But you are wrong in your assessment. Most who accepted it did so because of the threat of winding up orders. No one and I mean no one wanted it but went along with it because of that and that only. Tan basically black mailed us. A bit like having a gun put to your head while the robber threatens to rape your family. In our case we were raped by having the Soul of our club destroyed.

Are you seriously comparing what happened to us to a family being raped.
My god.

Yeah, on an emotional level.

Well that’s ok then.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Rape and making shite up.

Ian is such a class chap but the minute it comes to this debate he loses all semblance of rationality.

Why should I be ashamed of myself? That's exactly what Tan has done to our club. I can't help it if you are that blind you can't see it.

I’m not referring to you views as you well know. I’m referring to you comparisons of a football club shirt changing colour to raping a family.

I wouldn’t bother. He’s so easy to tie in knots and he will just spout the same old bingo checklist of points that make no sense.

Look at his point about prefer to play in blue but want the investment.

LITERALLY THAT WAS THE 99% OF CARDIFF FANS. NO ONE WANTED TO PLAY IN RED IT WAS FOR INVESTMENT.

He is agreeing with my point above yet arguing still. Like I said ties himself in knots.

Really Niel. Well you have failed to tie me in knots. As for spouting the same stuff, it's a bit like you with Tan getting us to the Premier twice. It's the only thing you have on us.

I started this post because I'm fed up of people trying to push agendas and labelling anyone who doesn't agree a tan lover.
As far as I'm concerned all I want is what's best for my club, if there isn't anyone who will be better than tan atm he needs to stay, if there's someone who's going to buy us and move us forward then he needs to let this happen. All I care about is the future of the club.

What you want the best for our club, don’t make me laugh , the Dictator changed our identity for 4 years and made us a laughing stock and divided our club beyond and broke so many hearts

Well Tan 100% is not interested in the future of our club

If you really were there in the 80’s you would hate Tan beyond for what he did stripping us of our identity
Our club also should have an identity and ours is BLUE and not a badge with a worm on it.

Mate you don't know me or my history, any real Cardiff fan would always want what's best for the club no matter what.
Don't appreciate you questioning my history or loyalty

What changing our identity and stripping us of our pride and beyond a laughing stock, I honestly don’t want to know you

Blackmailing the fan base, can’t really get much lower can you? Thing Tan probably didn’t allow for was the gloryhunters disappearing so quickly once things turned a bit on the pitch. Not so many loyal fans left hey….

I started this post because I'm fed up of people trying to push agendas and labelling anyone who doesn't agree a tan lover.
As far as I'm concerned all I want is what's best for my club, if there isn't anyone who will be better than tan atm he needs to stay, if there's someone who's going to buy us and move us forward then he needs to let this happen. All I care about is the future of the club.

What you want the best for our club, don’t make me laugh , the Dictator changed our identity for 4 years and made us a laughing stock and divided our club beyond and broke so many hearts

Well Tan 100% is not interested in the future of our club

If you really were there in the 80’s you would hate Tan beyond for what he did stripping us of our identity
Our club also should have an identity and ours is BLUE and not a badge with a worm on it.

Mate you don't know me or my history, any real Cardiff fan would always want what's best for the club no matter what.
Don't appreciate you questioning my history or loyalty

What changing our identity and stripping us of our pride and beyond a laughing stock, I honestly don’t want to know you

Blackmailing the fan base, can’t really get much lower can you? Thing Tan probably didn’t allow for was the gloryhunters disappearing so quickly once things turned a bit on the pitch. Not so many loyal fans left hey….

Spot on Goats , blackmailed and threatened and two idiots on this thread say we are not loyal for agreeing to the despicable red. Total clowns.

Tan out Tan in bla bla. I love this club as much as the next fan.
People say about there's no soul in the club, the stadium has a drab atmosphere etc with low attendances.

Well just look at Man United, a lot of their fans want the Glazers out. But the stadium still gets a sell out at what 75k odd??
Different situation in terms of behind the scenes, and I know fans have boycotted games for the odd 20 minutes bla bla and some fans aren't locals bla bla.

But the point is they still turn up, supporting, making a noise for the lads on the pitch. So maybe we need to take a leaf out of that part of their book and in that sense and start a big supporting resurgence.

From my perspective, over the years, I have seen many owners. I think starting with Stefan Terlezki, Bob Grogan and Kenton Utilities and a phrase that has always been used is that an owner is merely a custodian of the club. I trully believe in this.

For me I loved the Sam years. I loved the buzz he gave the club and undoubtedly he turned the club around.

I will not criticise him for running out of money and I love the fact that he has always remained a bluebird.

As for VT I am also grateful for what he has done for our club (apart from the red shirts) but as with any club we need to look forward and not look backward.

We cannot alter the past but we can alter the future

So for me the future is a simple question. VT are you prepared to invest sufficient funds into the club to take us to the Premiership?

If the answer to the question is Yes - then just do it and take us there

If the answer to the question is No - then pass the ownership onto someone who does want to take us there

Great post, Paul and I concur with all of that having seen all of those mentioned and a couple more...

No shouldn't go back and that includes ownership! What the club and fans dont need is having someone as devisive as tan back in charge? Us fans need a new purpose and focus not arguing about past mistakes like it is now . Dont really want mega rich owners just someone who understands football and have a plan to move club forward tha would make a change from previous owners.

I started this post because I'm fed up of people trying to push agendas and labelling anyone who doesn't agree a tan lover.
As far as I'm concerned all I want is what's best for my club, if there isn't anyone who will be better than tan atm he needs to stay, if there's someone who's going to buy us and move us forward then he needs to let this happen. All I care about is the future of the club.

What you want the best for our club, don’t make me laugh , the Dictator changed our identity for 4 years and made us a laughing stock and divided our club beyond and broke so many hearts

Well Tan 100% is not interested in the future of our club

If you really were there in the 80’s you would hate Tan beyond for what he did stripping us of our identity
Our club also should have an identity and ours is BLUE and not a badge with a worm on it.

Mate you don't know me or my history, any real Cardiff fan would always want what's best for the club no matter what.
Don't appreciate you questioning my history or loyalty

What changing our identity and stripping us of our pride and beyond a laughing stock, I honestly don’t want to know you

Blackmailing the fan base, can’t really get much lower can you? Thing Tan probably didn’t allow for was the gloryhunters disappearing so quickly once things turned a bit on the pitch. Not so many loyal fans left hey….

Spot on Goats , blackmailed and threatened and two idiots on this thread say we are not loyal for agreeing to the despicable red. Total clowns.

If I am one of the idiots you refer to, I never questioned your loyalty, didn't appreciate you questioning mine that was all, so I think we may have crossed wires.
The reds come and gone, and so will tan sooner or later and there's nothing we can do about either really. What will always be here is the club we love. And that was the point I was trying to make when starting the thread.
It's the one thing we all agree on.
Tan lover or Hater we all bleed blue. It's in our veins

I started this post because I'm fed up of people trying to push agendas and labelling anyone who doesn't agree a tan lover.
As far as I'm concerned all I want is what's best for my club, if there isn't anyone who will be better than tan atm he needs to stay, if there's someone who's going to buy us and move us forward then he needs to let this happen. All I care about is the future of the club.

What you want the best for our club, don’t make me laugh , the Dictator changed our identity for 4 years and made us a laughing stock and divided our club beyond and broke so many hearts

Well Tan 100% is not interested in the future of our club

If you really were there in the 80’s you would hate Tan beyond for what he did stripping us of our identity
Our club also should have an identity and ours is BLUE and not a badge with a worm on it.

Mate you don't know me or my history, any real Cardiff fan would always want what's best for the club no matter what.
Don't appreciate you questioning my history or loyalty

Well said on any real fan wants what’s best for the club. Unfortunately some fans what what’s best for them club and other supporters don’t come into it.

Because as I allured to in a previous post the ideology of tan and Haman are very very close.

Real fan??? , joke of a fan go and support Liverpool


I was there for 9 seasons in league 4 , never missed one home or away game and our crowds were 1,500-4,000
Away sometimes 11 -50 -100 fans

So where were our fans then ?

I was there it was shit but good times too ,great away trips on the buses to likes of Rochdale ,Darlington and hartlepool

From my perspective, over the years, I have seen many owners. I think starting with Stefan Terlezki, Bob Grogan and Kenton Utilities and a phrase that has always been used is that an owner is merely a custodian of the club. I trully believe in this.

For me I loved the Sam years. I loved the buzz he gave the club and undoubtedly he turned the club around.

I will not criticise him for running out of money and I love the fact that he has always remained a bluebird.

As for VT I am also grateful for what he has done for our club (apart from the red shirts) but as with any club we need to look forward and not look backward.

We cannot alter the past but we can alter the future

So for me the future is a simple question. VT are you prepared to invest sufficient funds into the club to take us to the Premiership?

If the answer to the question is Yes - then just do it and take us there

If the answer to the question is No - then pass the ownership onto someone who does want to take us there

Totally agree with this post and I bet 90% Of fans would agree with this.

There are lots of things Tan could do better but he is the best owner we have ever had on the simple basis that he pays the bills whilst many of the ones before him have not.

There are lots of things Tan could do better but he is the best owner we have ever had on the simple basis that he pays the bills whilst many of the ones before him have not.

Agree

Got no problem with Tan, he spent money had his hands burnt and learnt from it. Covid etc has cost football clubs millions and he put his hand in the pocket to keep us going.

He just need the right ppl in charge at Cardiff, look what Wrexham did. They looked around and found a chairman with experiance at various clubs to help run the club.

Trouble is Cardiff have business men in charge which is useless for football