' Potential Buyers '

In my view, we are shortly heading for league one with the current regime in place.
Yes, I would like a new owner and board with a little more ambition. But certainly, a new manager and coaching staff with a budget to spend in January and the know how to get us competing in the top half of the Championship again!
Of course, this is all wishful thinking. So, the struggles will continue and the likes of Swansea will continue to be above us.

Tan has put millions into our club whereas the Jacks American owners have taken millions out but the difference is that the Jacks have always had a DOF whereas Tan has relied on his mates Dalman and Choo which has been a disaster particularly when choosing Managers! Swansea have had Rogers,Potter and Cooper now all Premier League Managers whereas our previous Managers are all on the dole!
However although I agree we now need a change going back to Sam would be a backward step!

I’m a bit confused.
If the highest bidder is indeed Sam, if he’s pretty much bidding what Tan wants, I can’t understand why he won’t sell.
One of two alternatives maybe, Sam's valuation is nowhere near Tans or Tan hates Sam so much that he refuses to do business with him whatever the price being offered.

A few on here seem to buy into this 'we've spent loads' myth. How much have we spent?

Tan has backed nothing but letting high earners (that he would have signed off by the way) leave and replace them with freebies on less wages (other than Etete).

You do all realise Tan and the board pick the manager too?

What have Tan,Choo and Dalman got for their money.
Harris managing Gillingham.No players sold for big money.
The Jacks
Martinez Belgium.Potter chelsea.Rodgers Leicester.Cooper Forest.
Plus players sold at a profit.

Tan has put millions into our club whereas the Jacks American owners have taken millions out but the difference is that the Jacks have always had a DOF whereas Tan has relied on his mates Dalman and Choo which has been a disaster particularly when choosing Managers! Swansea have had Rogers,Potter and Cooper now all Premier League Managers whereas our previous Managers are all on the dole!
However although I agree we now need a change going back to Sam would be a backward step!

Millions? You mean wasted millions and shocking running of our club, boy do you realise we are worth it than before Tan arrived

What have Tan,Choo and Dalman got for their money.
Harris managing Gillingham.No players sold for big money.
The Jacks
Martinez Belgium.Potter chelsea.Rodgers Leicester.Cooper Forest.
Plus players sold at a profit.

Tan picks goofers and peanut managers without experience, he had two good managers and fell out with them as they were not goofers

As Annis said "Sam had his faults but he loves Cardiff City"

We all have faults. Sam included. But like us he loves us. He's one of us.

Yes initially he might be divisive but when we are playing well looking towards promotion and have decent players we will be united as one

Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football

Who are these potential buyers?

As Annis said "Sam had his faults but he loves Cardiff City"

We all have faults. Sam included. But like us he loves us. He's one of us.

Yes initially he might be divisive but when we are playing well looking towards promotion and have decent players we will be united as one

We are United as one when we are winning under Tan.

What makes you so confident Sam will have us winning in the championship and push us towards the premier league? A lot have spent a lot and failed.

If Tan has his way we would be in league 2 with no money lack of interest from other potential owners and very poor players. This club is falling and dying under the hands of an owner who simply dont care enough to do anything about it. By the time Tan leaves us we would be another league 2 team that will never rise again.

Sad but true and the lack of interest from Tan shows it.

Sam leave the debate for adults will ya?

League 2 if Tan has his way. Ffs.

Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football

Two things on that post.

Dislike the potential purchaser? Is that Sam then or someone else?

Nobody can guarantee they would deliver premier league football especially Sam. While I am forever grateful for what Sam he couldn’t deliver a stadium or premier league football last time. In fact quite the opposite. He delivered selling players to pay wages and the Riddler having to save us. That’s how bad things were, Riddler had to save us. Granted there were extenuating circumstances but it has to be said.

Sam ran out of money and that is why the Stadium or Premier football was not delivered. That will not be the problem now if it is Sam.

Before Same the Premier and the Stadium were a million miles away. When he left both those dreams were well alive with the Riddlers taking the glory for the Stadium and Tan taking the glory for the Premier.

Because Riddler delivered the stadium and Tan delivered the premier league.

What proof do we have that Sam has these funds all of a sudden. Plus, FFP is a factor.

I’m a bit confused.
If the highest bidder is indeed Sam, if he’s pretty much bidding what Tan wants, I can’t understand why he won’t sell.
One of two alternatives maybe, Sam's valuation is nowhere near Tans or Tan hates Sam so much that he refuses to do business with him whatever the price being offered.

Your last sentence is the problem.

Are there any imminent deals? I would love to believe this is the reason we are in managerial limbo

Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football

Two things on that post.

Dislike the potential purchaser? Is that Sam then or someone else?

Nobody can guarantee they would deliver premier league football especially Sam. While I am forever grateful for what Sam he couldn’t deliver a stadium or premier league football last time. In fact quite the opposite. He delivered selling players to pay wages and the Riddler having to save us. That’s how bad things were, Riddler had to save us. Granted there were extenuating circumstances but it has to be said.

Neil,

As usual very anti Sam.

Sam got two promotions, No relegations, took over us when we were rock bottom, shit ground, needed money spending on.
No one wanted a league 4 club with 4,000 crowds.
Squad worthless.



Left us Top of the Championship, found new stadium area, spent £60mill to get everything but the final stamp, stabbed in the back by Riddler and co.
Yes ran out of money, left a squad worth more than the debt, just searched the players from Ramsey,Ledly,Gunter, Loovens etc etc

Tan agreed to pay the £24mill loan debts and signed to it personally but once again never paid as usual then ran up court debts of beyond.
I could write a book

Sam had his faults, but he knew his football and loves Cardiff City beyond.





Tonight:

Absolutely not anti Sam. You know full well the esteem I have for him for what he did for us when no one else wanted to.

Facts I am stating is not anti Sam. It’s pointing out facts.

I hope he has lots of money and buys us and takes us to the premier league but based on the past I can’t see how that is the case. He might have money but won’t suddenly turn us into a premier league side with big spending. FFP is an issue.

The big shame in this is that he didn’t take us to the premier league first time round. Had he got us there we would be established there I think.

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Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football

Two things on that post.

Dislike the potential purchaser? Is that Sam then or someone else?

Nobody can guarantee they would deliver premier league football especially Sam. While I am forever grateful for what Sam he couldn’t deliver a stadium or premier league football last time. In fact quite the opposite. He delivered selling players to pay wages and the Riddler having to save us. That’s how bad things were, Riddler had to save us. Granted there were extenuating circumstances but it has to be said.

Sam ran out of money and that is why the Stadium or Premier football was not delivered. That will not be the problem now if it is Sam.

Before Same the Premier and the Stadium were a million miles away. When he left both those dreams were well alive with the Riddlers taking the glory for the Stadium and Tan taking the glory for the Premier.

Because Riddler delivered the stadium and Tan delivered the premier league.

What proof do we have that Sam has these funds all of a sudden. Plus, FFP is a factor.

And Tan is going to deliever league one and if he does its all down to him.

Your favourite saying, he delivered the Premier is getting weak. He stole that delivery from Sam. I wonder if Tan would have taken us from the dungeon to the Championship?

I’m a bit confused.
If the highest bidder is indeed Sam, if he’s pretty much bidding what Tan wants, I can’t understand why he won’t sell.
One of two alternatives maybe, Sam's valuation is nowhere near Tans or Tan hates Sam so much that he refuses to do business with him whatever the price being offered.

Your last sentence is the problem.

How do you know that mate?
Do you know what Sam has offered, if indeed an offer has been made?
Questions asked with respect btw

Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football

Two things on that post.

Dislike the potential purchaser? Is that Sam then or someone else?

Nobody can guarantee they would deliver premier league football especially Sam. While I am forever grateful for what Sam he couldn’t deliver a stadium or premier league football last time. In fact quite the opposite. He delivered selling players to pay wages and the Riddler having to save us. That’s how bad things were, Riddler had to save us. Granted there were extenuating circumstances but it has to be said.

Sam ran out of money and that is why the Stadium or Premier football was not delivered. That will not be the problem now if it is Sam.

Before Same the Premier and the Stadium were a million miles away. When he left both those dreams were well alive with the Riddlers taking the glory for the Stadium and Tan taking the glory for the Premier.

Because Riddler delivered the stadium and Tan delivered the premier league.

What proof do we have that Sam has these funds all of a sudden. Plus, FFP is a factor.

And Tan is going to deliever league one and if he does its all down to him.

Your favourite saying, he delivered the Premier is getting weak. He stole that delivery from Sam. I wonder if Tan would have taken us from the dungeon to the Championship?

It’s not a saying it’s a fact.

How many years were there between Sam leaving and Tan arriving and then the premier league, Sam can’t take credit for that and you saying different is disingenuous at best and ridiculous at worst,

Of course Tan wouldn’t have taken us to the champ from the dungeon. He wouldn’t have heard of us if not for the progression started by Sam. Always be grateful for that.

Funny we never know who these buyers really are or do they even exist.
But some still want others back conveniently forgetting the past and how we nearly ceased to exist.

Jules you know they do and even Dalman has publicly admitted it.

Why would they not?

Of course people with money would be interested in a club like ours.

It’s the person they’ve got to deal with us the problem.


100% there are 3 lots.


And I have stated to you this many many times .

What have Tan,Choo and Dalman got for their money.
Harris managing Gillingham.No players sold for big money.
The Jacks
Martinez Belgium.Potter chelsea.Rodgers Leicester.Cooper Forest.
Plus players sold at a profit.

Absolutely this, this this.

How have we got it so different and wrong across the years. Especially when it seems that we have the richer owner and, pretty sure the Jacks would agree, more potential via population alone.

Are we missing a football man on the board and who the hell is getting it so right with the managers at Swansea.

What have Tan,Choo and Dalman got for their money.
Harris managing Gillingham.No players sold for big money.
The Jacks
Martinez Belgium.Potter chelsea.Rodgers Leicester.Cooper Forest.
Plus players sold at a profit.

Absolutely this, this this.

How have we got it so different and wrong across the years. Especially when it seems that we have the richer owner and, pretty sure the Jacks would agree, more potential via population alone.

Are we missing a football man on the board and who the hell is getting it so right with the managers at Swansea.

Very good question Wayne.

What have Tan,Choo and Dalman got for their money.
Harris managing Gillingham.No players sold for big money.
The Jacks
Martinez Belgium.Potter chelsea.Rodgers Leicester.Cooper Forest.
Plus players sold at a profit.

Absolutely this, this this.

How have we got it so different and wrong across the years. Especially when it seems that we have the richer owner and, pretty sure the Jacks would agree, more potential via population alone.

Are we missing a football man on the board and who the hell is getting it so right with the managers at Swansea.

Us fans don’t have the patience to do what Swansea have done.

We were spoilt by the success we achieved quickly under Sam.

And I'll stick my ten penneth in when im good and ready. Watching this board see the club in freefall, something I predicted three years ago is very sad.

There are fundamental flaws and issues with Cardiff City FC, my club, and it starts and ends with the board and Vincent Tan.

If you disagree and want to start up the abuse again towards me, then remember you are also disagreeing with a whole host of posters on this thread.

Ill wait until we have proper owners again before posting any further replies.

And I'll stick my ten penneth in when im good and ready. Watching this board see the club in freefall, something I predicted three years ago is very sad.

There are fundamental flaws and issues with Cardiff City FC, my club, and it starts and ends with the board and Vincent Tan.

If you disagree and want to start up the abuse again towards me, then remember you are also disagreeing with a whole host of posters on this thread.

Ill wait until we have proper owners again before posting any further replies.

Simply won’t happen. You love it too much can’t stay away.

Everytime we have a bad result you will desperate to pile on.

How was today Tan’s fault apart from the fact that Tan ponied up the 1.5 million for Callum Robinson to sign for Cardiff.
Oh I forgot, he doesn’t spend any money.

The club whose fans sold their souls for the Malaysian buck - now paying the price.

And I'll stick my ten penneth in when im good and ready. Watching this board see the club in freefall, something I predicted three years ago is very sad.

There are fundamental flaws and issues with Cardiff City FC, my club, and it starts and ends with the board and Vincent Tan.

If you disagree and want to start up the abuse again towards me, then remember you are also disagreeing with a whole host of posters on this thread.

Ill wait until we have proper owners again before posting any further replies.

Very good news

And I'll stick my ten penneth in when im good and ready. Watching this board see the club in freefall, something I predicted three years ago is very sad.

There are fundamental flaws and issues with Cardiff City FC, my club, and it starts and ends with the board and Vincent Tan.

If you disagree and want to start up the abuse again towards me, then remember you are also disagreeing with a whole host of posters on this thread.

Ill wait until we have proper owners again before posting any further replies.

Simply won’t happen. You love it too much can’t stay away.

Everytime we have a bad result you will desperate to pile on.

How was today Tan’s fault apart from the fact that Tan ponied up the 1.5 million for Callum Robinson to sign for Cardiff.
Oh I forgot, he doesn’t spend any money.

That was not Tans money but from the drip off of the premier money he is using.

I think it's time for us fans to actually do something rather than talk about wanting a new owner. Protests and voice our discontent with he board and ownership. So many other clubs have had bad owners and fans have voiced their anger and its gained media attention and sooner or later someone has bought them. But for some reason our fans haven't protested or voiced our anger other than say it on a forum message board

I think it's time for us fans to actually do something rather than talk about wanting a new owner. Protests and voice our discontent with he board and ownership. So many other clubs have had bad owners and fans have voiced their anger and its gained media attention and sooner or later someone has bought them. But for some reason our fans haven't protested or voiced our anger other than say it on a forum message board

Just watched video after video and it hurts
Link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=230333

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=230333

I think it's time for us fans to actually do something rather than talk about wanting a new owner. Protests and voice our discontent with he board and ownership. So many other clubs have had bad owners and fans have voiced their anger and its gained media attention and sooner or later someone has bought them. But for some reason our fans haven't protested or voiced our anger other than say it on a forum message board

Just watched video after video and it hurts
Link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=230333

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=230333

I think if there was an organised protest Annis, the media would pick it up, and it would be shown worldwide, Tan likes to think he's loved down here, if the media in malaysia show our fans saying we want him out, and stuff, it will hurt his ego. might then strongly consider actually selling up