Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:29 am
wez1927 wrote:Bluebina wrote:All the lefties, crying call an election now, we are above you in the polls for the first time in 12 years, after Brexit, covid, Ukraine war, energy crisis![]()
It's two more years, why would they call it now?
Then the BBC go to a market expecting every one to hate the conservatives, and everyone they interview says bring back Boris
Was in bridgend market today at the butchers stand about 10 of us talking about it ,every single person thought boris should come back ,one voted Labour and said the people chose him in 2019 and he shouldn't of left ,boris was elected on mass by people who knew what he was like ,2 years is a long time in politics, he could turn it around when he left labour qere only 8 points ahead in the polls.which mid term is normal.
Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:56 am
Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:58 am
llan bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Bluebina wrote:All the lefties, crying call an election now, we are above you in the polls for the first time in 12 years, after Brexit, covid, Ukraine war, energy crisis![]()
It's two more years, why would they call it now?
Then the BBC go to a market expecting every one to hate the conservatives, and everyone they interview says bring back Boris
Was in bridgend market today at the butchers stand about 10 of us talking about it ,every single person thought boris should come back ,one voted Labour and said the people chose him in 2019 and he shouldn't of left ,boris was elected on mass by people who knew what he was like ,2 years is a long time in politics, he could turn it around when he left labour qere only 8 points ahead in the polls.which mid term is normal.
Wez, I am not a tory although i voted for them in the last two elections. My simple reasoning is that he is not a leader. A charismatic disruptor, but as a younger more motivated driven man the leader of the biggest city was his limit. He can not lead the country through the straight-jacketed discipline required for the next two ~ five years. It will be chaos
Sunak when the chancellor forgot to mention his wife's non-dom status, the country is skint and HMRC are putting the squeeze on joe public but we still have that avenue for those with the wealth to keep their
Rachel Reeves the BoE economist, so there's a continuation of the last 30 years orthodoxy, the bankers are always saved and our kids and grandkids pay.
Funny how the Hunts special "city" advisor team got him to reverse every one of Kwasi's tax cuts but forgot to put the cap back on bankers bonuses![]()
The truth is we are screwed, we have borrowed so much money since bailing out the banks and giving them basically free money that we don't have any and they do. They call the shots as was evident over the last few weeks. May as well make Jamie Dimon PM (CEO JP Morgan) and do away with the middlemen.
Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:16 am
wez1927 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Sums starmer up let's face it the lead in the polls now isn't coz starmer is any good it's coz the tories have self destructed . An interesting point the same mps that ousted boris have had buyers remorse and have back him today,the general tory public of the last election still like boris more than any other tory mp .
I think more to the point is that Rachel Reeves is head and shoulders above any prospective new Tory chancellor both in qualification and common sense.
Starmer is just sitting back and letting things happen he’s hugely ahead in the polls and, for now, it makes sense for him to just sit back and the Tories destroy themselves.
Once a new election is on the cards he will step up but if you listened to his speech at the recent conference the policies are ready to go when needed.
It makes me laugh when I hear Tories say “we don’t want Labour in charge of the economy”, they could hardly do any worse than the position we are now in after 12 years of Tory rule !!!!!
What are the policies? .no one knows them ,the one I heard about, the national engery company has been rolled back already .
Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:19 am
rumpo kid wrote:Starmer looks listless when the Torys are weak.. still won’t give answers to straightforward questions. That’s why nobody knows what he is. As for Rachel Reeves, she backed Ed Miliband. That says much of her.
Neither party appears even mildly competent.
Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:57 am
Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:18 pm
Jimmy Scoular wrote:Please remember this todays Times and Financial Times warned that Bojo the clown's return could pose an existential threat to the UK's financial status. His victory will only add to the Tories terminal decline. Such is the divisiveness within his return would cause chaos in the Tory parliamentary party. Is that what the nation needs ? Bojo cares about Bojo he is not a Tory, he cares little for this country and would readily jump on a dog turd if he thought it would propel him to power. A narcissist of the highest order. There is also a direct threat of him being found guilty of breaking the ministerial code and lying to parliament,: what then. The pound world drop below the dollar and investors would flee. As far as I am concerned those who vote for this charlatan are traitors to the UK.
Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:49 pm
Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:33 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Bluebina wrote:All the lefties, crying call an election now, we are above you in the polls for the first time in 12 years, after Brexit, covid, Ukraine war, energy crisis![]()
It's two more years, why would they call it now?
Then the BBC go to a market expecting every one to hate the conservatives, and everyone they interview says bring back Boris
Was in bridgend market today at the butchers stand about 10 of us talking about it ,every single person thought boris should come back ,one voted Labour and said the people chose him in 2019 and he shouldn't of left ,boris was elected on mass by people who knew what he was like ,2 years is a long time in politics, he could turn it around when he left labour qere only 8 points ahead in the polls.which mid term is normal.
Wez, I am not a tory although i voted for them in the last two elections. My simple reasoning is that he is not a leader. A charismatic disruptor, but as a younger more motivated driven man the leader of the biggest city was his limit. He can not lead the country through the straight-jacketed discipline required for the next two ~ five years. It will be chaos
Sunak when the chancellor forgot to mention his wife's non-dom status, the country is skint and HMRC are putting the squeeze on joe public but we still have that avenue for those with the wealth to keep their
Rachel Reeves the BoE economist, so there's a continuation of the last 30 years orthodoxy, the bankers are always saved and our kids and grandkids pay.
Funny how the Hunts special "city" advisor team got him to reverse every one of Kwasi's tax cuts but forgot to put the cap back on bankers bonuses![]()
The truth is we are screwed, we have borrowed so much money since bailing out the banks and giving them basically free money that we don't have any and they do. They call the shots as was evident over the last few weeks. May as well make Jamie Dimon PM (CEO JP Morgan) and do away with the middlemen.
Genuine question mate, if you voted for the tories in Last two elections, why does that not make you a Tory? No opposition?
Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:38 pm
Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:31 pm
piledriver64 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Starmer looks listless when the Torys are weak.. still won’t give answers to straightforward questions. That’s why nobody knows what he is. As for Rachel Reeves, she backed Ed Miliband. That says much of her.
Neither party appears even mildly competent.
Rachel Reeves is by far away the best candidate for Chancellor from either party. If you based your view of Tory Chancellors on who they had previously backed you wouldn’t trust a single one of them with your kids piggy banks !!
Read Reeves details and about her experience and then tell me a single Tory that can compete with her as a rounded Chancellor.
Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:35 pm