kamikaze kwarteng

I think people should calm down and let the plan bear fruit or maybe fail. It's far too early to judge. Like others have said, something had to be done, growth was stagnant, taxes were high.
I'm more worried with the so-called Conservatives loosening immigration rules. We need far less immigration not more. Life isn't all about GDP growth. That's materialistic and superficial.

The pound is stable against the Euro, this is a strength of the dollar issue that is being pumped by the US fed. The press are driving this anxiety, everyone just chill. The FTSE is at the same level as just before the pandemic. Don't listen to journalists trying to drive a.stoey.

50/50 choice, cut taxes and drive more money to be spent or hold or increase taxes to get more cash but people spend less which means overall there are less taxes.... I'd cut them.

And the Bank Of England have issues with Truss as thier poster boy didn't get the job ,whose to say they have it right .. perhaps the plan is to install a Labour government and re enter Europe???

The Leader of the Labour Party has made it clear that the UK will stay out of the EU when the inevitable happens and we take power.

But don't let the facts get in the way.

The Labour leader and manifesto said they'd respect the decision to leave in 2017. They then spent the next 2 years doing everything they could to frustrate the process. But your right Government is theirs to lose right now but Europe could still be a bit of an achilles heel for them. As victory becomes more of an inevitability the pro Europeans in the Labour party will become more emboldened and speak their mind.

There's also a big issue with race on the horizon and the justification or not of the shooting of the young lad in South London. When the full facts are out its going to really polarise public opinions I suspect.

Yea the Tories want to let in migrants for all the low paid jobs they can't fill at the moment after Brexit put a stop to them. You couldn't make it up. This coming months after the same Tory gov promised a high wage economy.

Yea the Tories want to let in migrants for all the low paid jobs they can't fill at the moment after Brexit put a stop to them. You couldn't make it up. This coming months after the same Tory gov promised a high wage economy.

Will be high wage rconomy as everyone is going on strike for 12% pay rises..

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That can't be true Wez as the BBC never mentioned those figures. Strangely enough they also haven't mentioned that the pound v dollar hit 1.12 yesterday (as opposed to 1.08 last Friday before the mini budget).

Thinking about it I can't remember the BBC mentioning that our economy grew by 0.2% in Quarter 2 either.

Weird.....

The paradox here is that
1. Kwarteng has a PHD in economic history from Cambridge
2. Truss got a 1st class honours degree in economics and politics from Oxford

So “thick” and “inept” they definitely aren’t BUT I think they now understand politicians do not control the economy, the markets do

Interesting

Thinking about it I can't remember the BBC mentioning that our economy grew by 0.2% in Quarter 2 either.

Weird.....

Here you go: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62874496

Interesting

Thinking about it I can't remember the BBC mentioning that our economy grew by 0.2% in Quarter 2 either.

Weird.....

Here you go: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62874496

I obviously didn't make myself clear. I was referring to the stuff they spout out on the so called "news" and susequent TV comments and commentators. No lay person digs deep to read that stuff as you probably well know.

Interesting

That can't be true Wez as the BBC never mentioned those figures. Strangely enough they also haven't mentioned that the pound v dollar hit 1.12 yesterday (as opposed to 1.08 last Friday before the mini budget).

Thinking about it I can't remember the BBC mentioning that our economy grew by 0.2% in Quarter 2 either.

Weird.....

Pound v the Dollar opened in January at 1.35 then hit a high of 1.37
I done a compare out of a matter of interest.Banks charging 5% on a £100000 remortgage.800 quid a month.
Bank of England bailed out UK pension funds to the tune of £65 billion.They'll need a another bailout in two weeks.
0.2% amounts to pissing in the wind.
Crisis what crisis.

Just read this from a Tory backing newspaper.New house buyers face a 10% mortgages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Just read this from a Tory backing newspaper.New house buyers face a 10% mortgages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

There that in Germany now ,looks like the global finance reset is happening and the days of global low interests rates have gone .

Just read this from a Tory backing newspaper.New house buyers face a 10% mortgages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Unfortunately couldn't find reference to 10% mortgages! I know they're 6.4% read that online .... but like the £ they will settle down given time otherwise banks ect wont be able to sell their mortgage products as Joe bloggs couldn't afford it along with all the other price increases.

Just read this from a Tory backing newspaper.New house buyers face a 10% mortgages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Conjecture possibly???? The ONS forecast negative growth for the last quarter and look what happened. Listen to yourself and not the doom merchants. You probably have a lot more sense and insight than they do.

Just read this from a Tory backing newspaper.New house buyers face a 10% mortgages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Conjecture possibly???? The ONS forecast negative growth for the last quarter and look what happened. Listen to yourself and not the doom merchants. You probably have a lot more sense and insight than they do.

Conjecture my arse, that story was taken directly from the Question Time programme last Thursday. Whatever the car accident that Liz Truss is the higher interest rates are here to stay.

Times poll showing Labour on 54%.

A lead which has Not happened in 30 years - The margin in % .

Obviously clear that Labour will win the next election. The majority will depend on who leads the Tories in the next election. Sunak would help them get to a respectable position. As would several others.

Truss will cause an unhealthy majority for Labour. I say this as a Labour member as it's better for democracy for there to be narrow majorities.

But I do look forward to the future when this Tory party are finally out of power.

What are your thoughts of a Labour being in power for 26 years - at the Welsh Assembly ?

Just read this from a Tory backing newspaper.New house buyers face a 10% mortgages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Conjecture possibly???? The ONS forecast negative growth for the last quarter and look what happened. Listen to yourself and not the doom merchants. You probably have a lot more sense and insight than they do.

Conjecture my arse, that story was taken directly from the Question Time programme last Thursday. Whatever the car accident that Liz Truss is the higher interest rates are here to stay.

With all due respect Sneggmeister, you are probably aware that interest rates have been artificially low for way too long.

Any person, or couple, who takes up a mortgage will have been informed that interest rates can go up as well as down. If they have not factored this into the debt they decided to take on they may have to look at themselves.

I do not want to see anybody in pain, but if anyone could not see the balancing of artificially low interest rates was coming, they may need to speak to their mortgage advisor.

Times poll showing Labour on 54%.

A lead which has Not happened in 30 years - The margin in % .

Obviously clear that Labour will win the next election. The majority will depend on who leads the Tories in the next election. Sunak would help them get to a respectable position. As would several others.

Truss will cause an unhealthy majority for Labour. I say this as a Labour member as it's better for democracy for there to be narrow majorities.

But I do look forward to the future when this Tory party are finally out of power.

This is my thoughts as well.
This was what saw in the mail this mornin6

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Just read this from a Tory backing newspaper.New house buyers face a 10% mortgages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Conjecture possibly???? The ONS forecast negative growth for the last quarter and look what happened. Listen to yourself and not the doom merchants. You probably have a lot more sense and insight than they do.

Conjecture my arse, that story was taken directly from the Question Time programme last Thursday. Whatever the car accident that Liz Truss is the higher interest rates are here to stay.

With all due respect Sneggmeister, you are probably aware that interest rates have been artificially low for way too long.

Any person, or couple, who takes up a mortgage will have been informed that interest rates can go up as well as down. If they have not factored this into the debt they decided to take on they may have to look at themselves.

I do not want to see anybody in pain, but if anyone could not see the balancing of artificially low interest rates was coming, they may need to speak to their mortgage advisor.

THats the effects of the government scaring the markets. People of a certain age will remember 7-8% interest rates as the norm but theres a whole generation out there that's never experienced this and don't forget the banks and the like falling over themselves to give mortgages away and contributing to the current crisis most home owner of 12yrs or less now experiencing. It's like watching an animal eat itself as loads of upwardly mobile Tories are now being shafted by the very government they supported with their votes over the last 12yrs.

Big Week Next Week For The Gov ....

Slightly on topic - a bit wibbly wobbly but a bit of a dive into the world of tin-foil hat wearing loons like myself for you. So here is a prediction of what comes next...

With the 'harmonisation/normalisation' of the Pound, Euro, and Dollar where they are all now close to parity, when the global recession bites hardest, a shared digital currency across much of the Western world will be established.

This digital currency will be linked to a social credit score system as we have already seen in China.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-s ... ?r=US&IR=T

Many of the working class and middle class will be beholden to the state and on some form of Universal Basic Income as private companies fail under increasing energy costs.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... 2022-0104/

UBI will be paid in aforementioned 'smart' digital currency that restricts what it can be spent on. Just a modern day equivalent of food stamps.

https://mindmatters.ai/2022/02/governme ... ved-items/

All of the above is presented as saving us from a perfectly manufactured financial catastrophe, a perfectly constructed Hegalian dialectic of thesis, antithesis, synthesis - or problem, reaction, solution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic

With a common currency established, supra-national government will follow. The blueprint for this is fairly well established with the evolution of the EEC > EC > EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ ... _Community

Two global blocks will form essentially NATO and nations within the Anglosphere opposed to a Russian/China led coalition. This will lead to an endless war. Nuclear will always be the threat in the background to keep us all anxiously obedient in our hatred of the other. It will be the same propaganda leverages on both sides to control common man through fear and hatred. This is already underway.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... ns-with-us

The end result will be some form of perpetual neo-feudalism, with a small elite taking and securing all power while the rest of us are dependent on the state's 'benevolence'. We will trade liberty for security in the threat of an ever present danger. We will own nothing and be happy.

https://c2cjournal.ca/2021/01/how-clima ... ddle-ages/

Back to topic (ish), I actually think Kwarteng made have taken the only path that could plot a course out of the mess we created by printing money like it was going out of fashion and turning off our economy with lockdowns. I'm not saying it is neccesarily a good path, just that it is possibly the least worst path of the options he had.

It was always going to bite us in the arse and a few of us (myself included) were shot down for stating this at the time - in fact I distinctly remember "the greater good argument" being thrown up then as people lapped up the propaganda about the pandemic despite the numbers never adding up.

However, it is too little, too late, we are already in the belly of the beast, and it doesn't really matter what we do now, the course is pretty much set.

As other's have said Labour will almost certainly get in at the next election, but it won't make any difference.

The veil fully slipped during the pandemic, democracy is just a sham - a fairy story told to the dumb ignorant masses so we think we are in control. I don't know if it was always this way, but it is certainly true now. Just look at how the Ursula von der Layen openly discussed the EU's preparation for Italy's recent democratic election.

https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-e ... der-leyen/

All of the above will get dismissed by the majority as conspiracy theory. It will get denounced and those who point it out will at best be called crazy and deluded, at worst as we saw with some of the vile anti-vaxxer rhetoric that was said less than a year ago, they will be labeled dangerous and a threat to the regular normal folks.

However, the fact is none of this is secret, it is discussed openly. They are even publishing books on the damn topic because they are so arrogant in their assumption of superiority. They know that most of us won't bother to read the plans.

How many of you whose first reaction is this is all nonsense have actually read Klaus Schwabb's book where he lays it all out?

I'd predict very few. Their assumptions are correct, we are too easily distracted and we just don't pay attention - that is the sum power of their strength.

They've been telegraphing their every move for the best part of two decades and still most people have no idea of Agenda 2030 yet we still don't pay attention. So they consolidate more power, placing their own people in governments. It really is quite impressive just how easily they usurped power across so many nations without ever firing a shot just by understanding our own ignorance and apathy. It is terrifying, yes, but impressive nonetheless.

Anyway, hopefully I'm completely wrong about all of the above, Labour can storm the election and restore my faith in democracy by establishing policies that put the welfare and prosperity of the people of this nation that vote them in above any and all other agendas. I have my doubts about that happening though.

I'm also doing a nice line in tin foil hats if anyone is ready for them yet? Been peddling them for a while now but so far they don't seem to have caught on...

Slightly on topic - a bit wibbly wobbly but a bit of a dive into the world of tin-foil hat wearing loons like myself for you. So here is a prediction of what comes next...

With the 'harmonisation/normalisation' of the Pound, Euro, and Dollar where they are all now close to parity, when the global recession bites hardest, a shared digital currency across much of the Western world will be established.

This digital currency will be linked to a social credit score system as we have already seen in China.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-s ... ?r=US&IR=T

Many of the working class and middle class will be beholden to the state and on some form of Universal Basic Income as private companies fail under increasing energy costs.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... 2022-0104/

UBI will be paid in aforementioned 'smart' digital currency that restricts what it can be spent on. Just a modern day equivalent of food stamps.

https://mindmatters.ai/2022/02/governme ... ved-items/

All of the above is presented as saving us from a perfectly manufactured financial catastrophe, a perfectly constructed Hegalian dialectic of thesis, antithesis, synthesis - or problem, reaction, solution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic

With a common currency established, supra-national government will follow. The blueprint for this is fairly well established with the evolution of the EEC > EC > EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ ... _Community

Two global blocks will form essentially NATO and nations within the Anglosphere opposed to a Russian/China led coalition. This will lead to an endless war. Nuclear will always be the threat in the background to keep us all anxiously obedient in our hatred of the other. It will be the same propaganda leverages on both sides to control common man through fear and hatred. This is already underway.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... ns-with-us

The end result will be some form of perpetual neo-feudalism, with a small elite taking and securing all power while the rest of us are dependent on the state's 'benevolence'. We will trade liberty for security in the threat of an ever present danger. We will own nothing and be happy.

https://c2cjournal.ca/2021/01/how-clima ... ddle-ages/

Back to topic (ish), I actually think Kwarteng made have taken the only path that could plot a course out of the mess we created by printing money like it was going out of fashion and turning off our economy with lockdowns. I'm not saying it is neccesarily a good path, just that it is possibly the least worst path of the options he had.

It was always going to bite us in the arse and a few of us (myself included) were shot down for stating this at the time - in fact I distinctly remember "the greater good argument" being thrown up then as people lapped up the propaganda about the pandemic despite the numbers never adding up.

However, it is too little, too late, we are already in the belly of the beast, and it doesn't really matter what we do now, the course is pretty much set.

As other's have said Labour will almost certainly get in at the next election, but it won't make any difference.

The veil fully slipped during the pandemic, democracy is just a sham - a fairy story told to the dumb ignorant masses so we think we are in control. I don't know if it was always this way, but it is certainly true now. Just look at how the Ursula von der Layen openly discussed the EU's preparation for Italy's recent democratic election.

https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-e ... der-leyen/

All of the above will get dismissed by the majority as conspiracy theory. It will get denounced and those who point it out will at best be called crazy and deluded, at worst as we saw with some of the vile anti-vaxxer rhetoric that was said less than a year ago, they will be labeled dangerous and a threat to the regular normal folks.

However, the fact is none of this is secret, it is discussed openly. They are even publishing books on the damn topic because they are so arrogant in their assumption of superiority. They know that most of us won't bother to read the plans.

How many of you whose first reaction is this is all nonsense have actually read Klaus Schwabb's book where he lays it all out?

I'd predict very few. Their assumptions are correct, we are too easily distracted and we just don't pay attention - that is the sum power of their strength.

They've been telegraphing their every move for the best part of two decades and still most people have no idea of Agenda 2030 yet we still don't pay attention. So they consolidate more power, placing their own people in governments. It really is quite impressive just how easily they usurped power across so many nations without ever firing a shot just by understanding our own ignorance and apathy. It is terrifying, yes, but impressive nonetheless.

Anyway, hopefully I'm completely wrong about all of the above, Labour can storm the election and restore my faith in democracy by establishing policies that put the welfare and prosperity of the people of this nation that vote them in above any and all other agendas. I have my doubts about that happening though.

I'm also doing a nice line in tin foil hats if anyone is ready for them yet? Been peddling them for a while now but so far they don't seem to have caught on...

We’re all being played

Slightly on topic - a bit wibbly wobbly but a bit of a dive into the world of tin-foil hat wearing loons like myself for you. So here is a prediction of what comes next...

With the 'harmonisation/normalisation' of the Pound, Euro, and Dollar where they are all now close to parity, when the global recession bites hardest, a shared digital currency across much of the Western world will be established.

This digital currency will be linked to a social credit score system as we have already seen in China.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-s ... ?r=US&IR=T

Many of the working class and middle class will be beholden to the state and on some form of Universal Basic Income as private companies fail under increasing energy costs.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... 2022-0104/

UBI will be paid in aforementioned 'smart' digital currency that restricts what it can be spent on. Just a modern day equivalent of food stamps.

https://mindmatters.ai/2022/02/governme ... ved-items/

All of the above is presented as saving us from a perfectly manufactured financial catastrophe, a perfectly constructed Hegalian dialectic of thesis, antithesis, synthesis - or problem, reaction, solution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic

With a common currency established, supra-national government will follow. The blueprint for this is fairly well established with the evolution of the EEC > EC > EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ ... _Community

Two global blocks will form essentially NATO and nations within the Anglosphere opposed to a Russian/China led coalition. This will lead to an endless war. Nuclear will always be the threat in the background to keep us all anxiously obedient in our hatred of the other. It will be the same propaganda leverages on both sides to control common man through fear and hatred. This is already underway.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... ns-with-us

The end result will be some form of perpetual neo-feudalism, with a small elite taking and securing all power while the rest of us are dependent on the state's 'benevolence'. We will trade liberty for security in the threat of an ever present danger. We will own nothing and be happy.

https://c2cjournal.ca/2021/01/how-clima ... ddle-ages/

Back to topic (ish), I actually think Kwarteng made have taken the only path that could plot a course out of the mess we created by printing money like it was going out of fashion and turning off our economy with lockdowns. I'm not saying it is neccesarily a good path, just that it is possibly the least worst path of the options he had.

It was always going to bite us in the arse and a few of us (myself included) were shot down for stating this at the time - in fact I distinctly remember "the greater good argument" being thrown up then as people lapped up the propaganda about the pandemic despite the numbers never adding up.

However, it is too little, too late, we are already in the belly of the beast, and it doesn't really matter what we do now, the course is pretty much set.

As other's have said Labour will almost certainly get in at the next election, but it won't make any difference.

The veil fully slipped during the pandemic, democracy is just a sham - a fairy story told to the dumb ignorant masses so we think we are in control. I don't know if it was always this way, but it is certainly true now. Just look at how the Ursula von der Layen openly discussed the EU's preparation for Italy's recent democratic election.

https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-e ... der-leyen/

All of the above will get dismissed by the majority as conspiracy theory. It will get denounced and those who point it out will at best be called crazy and deluded, at worst as we saw with some of the vile anti-vaxxer rhetoric that was said less than a year ago, they will be labeled dangerous and a threat to the regular normal folks.

However, the fact is none of this is secret, it is discussed openly. They are even publishing books on the damn topic because they are so arrogant in their assumption of superiority. They know that most of us won't bother to read the plans.

How many of you whose first reaction is this is all nonsense have actually read Klaus Schwabb's book where he lays it all out?

I'd predict very few. Their assumptions are correct, we are too easily distracted and we just don't pay attention - that is the sum power of their strength.

They've been telegraphing their every move for the best part of two decades and still most people have no idea of Agenda 2030 yet we still don't pay attention. So they consolidate more power, placing their own people in governments. It really is quite impressive just how easily they usurped power across so many nations without ever firing a shot just by understanding our own ignorance and apathy. It is terrifying, yes, but impressive nonetheless.

Anyway, hopefully I'm completely wrong about all of the above, Labour can storm the election and restore my faith in democracy by establishing policies that put the welfare and prosperity of the people of this nation that vote them in above any and all other agendas. I have my doubts about that happening though.

I'm also doing a nice line in tin foil hats if anyone is ready for them yet? Been peddling them for a while now but so far they don't seem to have caught on...

What a brilliant post Sir Ealing and thank you for that great effort of pebble dropping.

Like you, I fear the worst. It's difficult for me to understand how so many people started as sheep but then went all in and turned into lemmings.

We made a conscious decision 2 years ago to get off grid which will come to fruition in Feb 2023.

We are only as good as the lowest common denominator and I wish us all well.

You have linked many facts that most on this board will not read, but bravo to you for trying.

We'll meet up one day in London Town and chew the cusp.

Just read this from a Tory backing newspaper.New house buyers face a 10% mortgages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Conjecture possibly???? The ONS forecast negative growth for the last quarter and look what happened. Listen to yourself and not the doom merchants. You probably have a lot more sense and insight than they do.

Conjecture my arse, that story was taken directly from the Question Time programme last Thursday. Whatever the car accident that Liz Truss is the higher interest rates are here to stay.

Always brings a wry smile to my face when I see bollocks such as the “I can only get a 10% mortgage” quote by the question time audience member. standard applicants are still nowhere near seeing 10% mortgage rates. Only those with horrendous and recent adverse credit are getting anywhere near that range. Easy to make a claim of being an average person without someone qualifying that claim, on garbage shows like questiontime. Especially with the MSM waiting to pounce on hysterical comments and relay it on as fact. Hysteria breeds hysteria and eventually the herd stampede into a self fulfilling prophecy.

Ealing_Ayatollah wrote - How many of you whose first reaction is this is all nonsense have actually read Klaus Schwabb's book where he lays it all out?

Is this the book your referring to?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/COVID-19-Great ... oks&sr=1-1

I monitor a few sources on this as it's obvious something is going on. There's a good video on global ownership on the Stop World Control website that's worth a view, as it details how Schwab and WEF have a plan and it's not good. Some of the bits are a bit 'out there' but it's an interesting insight to what game is being played and it seems more people are waking up to it. TBH, I'm suspicious of a lot I read about this and it's difficult to get decent sources but it's clear that that some very big wheels are turning. Great post as usual by the way.

Ealing_Ayatollah wrote - How many of you whose first reaction is this is all nonsense have actually read Klaus Schwabb's book where he lays it all out?

Is this the book your referring to?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/COVID-19-Great ... oks&sr=1-1

I monitor a few sources on this as it's obvious something is going on. There's a good video on global ownership on the Stop World Control website that's worth a view, as it details how Schwab and WEF have a plan and it's not good. Some of the bits are a bit 'out there' but it's an interesting insight to what game is being played and it seems more people are waking up to it. TBH, I'm suspicious of a lot I read about this and it's difficult to get decent sources but it's clear that that some very big wheels are turning. Great post as usual by the way.

Black rock seem to be owning everything now .there AI is frightening

Just read this from a Tory backing newspaper.New house buyers face a 10% mortgages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Conjecture possibly???? The ONS forecast negative growth for the last quarter and look what happened. Listen to yourself and not the doom merchants. You probably have a lot more sense and insight than they do.

Conjecture my arse, that story was taken directly from the Question Time programme last Thursday. Whatever the car accident that Liz Truss is the higher interest rates are here to stay.

Always brings a wry smile to my face when I see bollocks such as the “I can only get a 10% mortgage” quote by the question time audience member. standard applicants are still nowhere near seeing 10% mortgage rates. Only those with horrendous and recent adverse credit are getting anywhere near that range. Easy to make a claim of being an average person without someone qualifying that claim, on garbage shows like questiontime. Especially with the MSM waiting to pounce on hysterical comments and relay it on as fact. Hysteria breeds hysteria and eventually the herd stampede into a self fulfilling prophecy.

Or you just don't want to believe it it so just belittle the person and the programme instead. Shooting the messenger its called..Even Truss herself has gone record as saying she could have played her cards better. Historically markets have always reacted in this way to dodgy policies by whatever persuasion of government choses to enact them.

Ealing_Ayatollah wrote - How many of you whose first reaction is this is all nonsense have actually read Klaus Schwabb's book where he lays it all out?

Is this the book your referring to?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/COVID-19-Great ... oks&sr=1-1

I monitor a few sources on this as it's obvious something is going on. There's a good video on global ownership on the Stop World Control website that's worth a view, as it details how Schwab and WEF have a plan and it's not good. Some of the bits are a bit 'out there' but it's an interesting insight to what game is being played and it seems more people are waking up to it. TBH, I'm suspicious of a lot I read about this and it's difficult to get decent sources but it's clear that that some very big wheels are turning. Great post as usual by the way.

Black rock seem to be owning everything now .there AI is frightening

Yeah, them, Vanguard and some notable others. I'm no conspiracy theorist but global expansionism and ownership has always been a thing, I just want to know who the players are as it certainly feels like something is happening and when you see what Schwab and WEF have publically said, it's a big concern especially when you look at their very powerful membership list.

Ealing_Ayatollah wrote - How many of you whose first reaction is this is all nonsense have actually read Klaus Schwabb's book where he lays it all out?

Is this the book your referring to?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/COVID-19-Great ... oks&sr=1-1

I monitor a few sources on this as it's obvious something is going on. There's a good video on global ownership on the Stop World Control website that's worth a view, as it details how Schwab and WEF have a plan and it's not good. Some of the bits are a bit 'out there' but it's an interesting insight to what game is being played and it seems more people are waking up to it. TBH, I'm suspicious of a lot I read about this and it's difficult to get decent sources but it's clear that that some very big wheels are turning. Great post as usual by the way.

Yep that's the one and this later follow up.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Global-Reset-S ... 0fail%20us.

I'm suspicious of a lot I read about this and it's difficult to get decent sources

If only everyone took this viewpoint the world would be a much better place.

At the risk of going all Fox Mulder, trust nothing you read unless it can be cross-referenced with a second verifiable source - this used to be standard procedure for any journalism back in the day, rather than today's slightly less robust standard of someone sent a tweet so it must be true.

Slightly on topic - a bit wibbly wobbly but a bit of a dive into the world of tin-foil hat wearing loons like myself for you. So here is a prediction of what comes next...

With the 'harmonisation/normalisation' of the Pound, Euro, and Dollar where they are all now close to parity, when the global recession bites hardest, a shared digital currency across much of the Western world will be established.

This digital currency will be linked to a social credit score system as we have already seen in China.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-s ... ?r=US&IR=T

Many of the working class and middle class will be beholden to the state and on some form of Universal Basic Income as private companies fail under increasing energy costs.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... 2022-0104/

UBI will be paid in aforementioned 'smart' digital currency that restricts what it can be spent on. Just a modern day equivalent of food stamps.

https://mindmatters.ai/2022/02/governme ... ved-items/

All of the above is presented as saving us from a perfectly manufactured financial catastrophe, a perfectly constructed Hegalian dialectic of thesis, antithesis, synthesis - or problem, reaction, solution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic

With a common currency established, supra-national government will follow. The blueprint for this is fairly well established with the evolution of the EEC > EC > EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ ... _Community

Two global blocks will form essentially NATO and nations within the Anglosphere opposed to a Russian/China led coalition. This will lead to an endless war. Nuclear will always be the threat in the background to keep us all anxiously obedient in our hatred of the other. It will be the same propaganda leverages on both sides to control common man through fear and hatred. This is already underway.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... ns-with-us

The end result will be some form of perpetual neo-feudalism, with a small elite taking and securing all power while the rest of us are dependent on the state's 'benevolence'. We will trade liberty for security in the threat of an ever present danger. We will own nothing and be happy.

https://c2cjournal.ca/2021/01/how-clima ... ddle-ages/

Back to topic (ish), I actually think Kwarteng made have taken the only path that could plot a course out of the mess we created by printing money like it was going out of fashion and turning off our economy with lockdowns. I'm not saying it is neccesarily a good path, just that it is possibly the least worst path of the options he had.

It was always going to bite us in the arse and a few of us (myself included) were shot down for stating this at the time - in fact I distinctly remember "the greater good argument" being thrown up then as people lapped up the propaganda about the pandemic despite the numbers never adding up.

However, it is too little, too late, we are already in the belly of the beast, and it doesn't really matter what we do now, the course is pretty much set.

As other's have said Labour will almost certainly get in at the next election, but it won't make any difference.

The veil fully slipped during the pandemic, democracy is just a sham - a fairy story told to the dumb ignorant masses so we think we are in control. I don't know if it was always this way, but it is certainly true now. Just look at how the Ursula von der Layen openly discussed the EU's preparation for Italy's recent democratic election.

https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-e ... der-leyen/

All of the above will get dismissed by the majority as conspiracy theory. It will get denounced and those who point it out will at best be called crazy and deluded, at worst as we saw with some of the vile anti-vaxxer rhetoric that was said less than a year ago, they will be labeled dangerous and a threat to the regular normal folks.

However, the fact is none of this is secret, it is discussed openly. They are even publishing books on the damn topic because they are so arrogant in their assumption of superiority. They know that most of us won't bother to read the plans.

How many of you whose first reaction is this is all nonsense have actually read Klaus Schwabb's book where he lays it all out?

I'd predict very few. Their assumptions are correct, we are too easily distracted and we just don't pay attention - that is the sum power of their strength.

They've been telegraphing their every move for the best part of two decades and still most people have no idea of Agenda 2030 yet we still don't pay attention. So they consolidate more power, placing their own people in governments. It really is quite impressive just how easily they usurped power across so many nations without ever firing a shot just by understanding our own ignorance and apathy. It is terrifying, yes, but impressive nonetheless.

Anyway, hopefully I'm completely wrong about all of the above, Labour can storm the election and restore my faith in democracy by establishing policies that put the welfare and prosperity of the people of this nation that vote them in above any and all other agendas. I have my doubts about that happening though.

I'm also doing a nice line in tin foil hats if anyone is ready for them yet? Been peddling them for a while now but so far they don't seem to have caught on...

What a brilliant post Sir Ealing and thank you for that great effort of pebble dropping.

Like you, I fear the worst. It's difficult for me to understand how so many people started as sheep but then went all in and turned into lemmings.

We made a conscious decision 2 years ago to get off grid which will come to fruition in Feb 2023.

We are only as good as the lowest common denominator and I wish us all well.

You have linked many facts that most on this board will not read, but bravo to you for trying.

We'll meet up one day in London Town and chew the cusp.

Wish I had the luxury of getting off grid mate really pleased for you as it is 100% the right choice. Anytime you're in this neck of the woods PM me in advance and we'll grab that beer.