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Was it the right time for Steve Morison to leave?

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Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:47 pm

It has to be more to it. Tan/Dalman normally wait until the fans have more than had enough with a manager but as we can see on this forum and Twitter most fans believe he should be given more time. Christ he let McCarthy lose 8 on the spin of whatever it was

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:49 pm

If there were shenanigans at half and full time as has been suggested, then he should go. Can't have an irreparable breakdown between the board and manager.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:55 pm

What is the Facebook rumour?

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:56 pm

Something_Blue wrote:It has to be more to it. Tan/Dalman normally wait until the fans have more than had enough with a manager but as we can see on this forum and Twitter most fans believe he should be given more time. Christ he let McCarthy lose 8 on the spin of whatever it was

Not sure most people are against the sacking tbh .

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:58 pm

The thread on here is 50/50 and the reaction to the club’s post is negative regarding the sacking.

Ollie Tanner also reposted a post in support of Morison

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:02 pm

24 for yes and 24 for no at present with the rest voting unsure.

So far, that shows there is a huge split.

Compare that to when Mick left and everyone wanted him gone.

Does seem to suggest that it's a harsh decision on results alone.

Agree with others that something else must have happened. It will all come out in the wash, we know Dalman won't be able to stop himself talking about it.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:29 pm

Sven wrote:Thought about it and voted a regrettable 'Yes'

Was surprised at the timing but recent games, comments and events suggest it was only a matter of time

If, as suggested, he took on Tan after that performance against tgat team, he sacked himself

Thank him for his efforts last season and his reshaping of tge squad. He wasn't the worse we've had in recent times... :ayatollah:


There seems to be a growing consensus that maybe he did have dressing room issues, if so Sven, he probably walked.As much as I'm disappointed by this people shouldn't be too quick to judge Hudson alongside Morison as he will have his own ideas and takes over a far superior squad than Morison inherited and as a Manager has a different input to a coach.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:34 pm

Absolutely not from a footballing perspective. If you task a manager of bringing in 15+ players and completely changing our style of play you have to accept there's always going to be a transition period. I wasn't Morison's biggest fan but I was happy with the players he brought in on such a small budget. We deserve some answers from the board.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:42 pm

JW_Bluebird wrote:Absolutely not from a footballing perspective. If you task a manager of bringing in 15+ players and completely changing our style of play you have to accept there's always going to be a transition period. I wasn't Morison's biggest fan but I was happy with the players he brought in on such a small budget. We deserve some answers from the board.

It's rather baffling really. Why did they let him carry on this season yet only ten games in and like you said more or less a new squad he's supposed to have brought in ( if they was his players of course ) just makes no sence why they let him carry on this season with everything the club had to do squad wise then cheerio after 10 games. Bonkers, but what do we know about whats gone on :bluescarf:

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:48 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
JW_Bluebird wrote:Absolutely not from a footballing perspective. If you task a manager of bringing in 15+ players and completely changing our style of play you have to accept there's always going to be a transition period. I wasn't Morison's biggest fan but I was happy with the players he brought in on such a small budget. We deserve some answers from the board.

It's rather baffling really. Why did they let him carry on this season yet only ten games in and like you said more or less a new squad he's supposed to have brought in ( if they was his players of course ) just makes no sence why they let him carry on this season with everything the club had to do squad wise then cheerio after 10 games. Bonkers, but what do we know about whats gone on :bluescarf:

Exactly. Why trust an inexperienced manager to revamp virtually our entire squad just to sack him 8 weeks into a season? The football hasn't been incredible but that Boro first half performance on Tuesday night filled me with so much hope that it *could* turn into something great with a bit of time. Can only imagine it all went off behind the scenes but ultimately I feel this football club won't go anywhere with the current board/ownership.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:55 pm

Far too early from a results point if view. He clearly has a good eye for a new player and tactics and style was clearly work in progress. I can only suspect his attitude has led to this with the wrong person...Good luck morison such a shame

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:56 am

JW_Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
JW_Bluebird wrote:Absolutely not from a footballing perspective. If you task a manager of bringing in 15+ players and completely changing our style of play you have to accept there's always going to be a transition period. I wasn't Morison's biggest fan but I was happy with the players he brought in on such a small budget. We deserve some answers from the board.

It's rather baffling really. Why did they let him carry on this season yet only ten games in and like you said more or less a new squad he's supposed to have brought in ( if they was his players of course ) just makes no sence why they let him carry on this season with everything the club had to do squad wise then cheerio after 10 games. Bonkers, but what do we know about whats gone on :bluescarf:

Exactly. Why trust an inexperienced manager to revamp virtually our entire squad just to sack him 8 weeks into a season? The football hasn't been incredible but that Boro first half performance on Tuesday night filled me with so much hope that it *could* turn into something great with a bit of time. Can only imagine it all went off behind the scenes but ultimately I feel this football club won't go anywhere with the current board/ownership.

6 losses in 8 games and his comments in the media were pathetic after Saturday that's why he's gone .

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:38 am

Too early for me if it is down to purely football reasons.
The squad has been revamped with next to no outlay. It was always going to take at least half a season to see signs of ongoing progress.
The most important decision now is the correct choice of replacement manager, who can play the modern way with the ball on the floor.
Do I trust the board to make the right call? Do I feck. It will be another disaster waiting to happen :? :banghead:

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:43 am

wez1927 wrote:
JW_Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
JW_Bluebird wrote:Absolutely not from a footballing perspective. If you task a manager of bringing in 15+ players and completely changing our style of play you have to accept there's always going to be a transition period. I wasn't Morison's biggest fan but I was happy with the players he brought in on such a small budget. We deserve some answers from the board.

It's rather baffling really. Why did they let him carry on this season yet only ten games in and like you said more or less a new squad he's supposed to have brought in ( if they was his players of course ) just makes no sence why they let him carry on this season with everything the club had to do squad wise then cheerio after 10 games. Bonkers, but what do we know about whats gone on :bluescarf:

Exactly. Why trust an inexperienced manager to revamp virtually our entire squad just to sack him 8 weeks into a season? The football hasn't been incredible but that Boro first half performance on Tuesday night filled me with so much hope that it *could* turn into something great with a bit of time. Can only imagine it all went off behind the scenes but ultimately I feel this football club won't go anywhere with the current board/ownership.

6 losses in 8 games and his comments in the media were pathetic after Saturday that's why he's gone .


I think it’s way too early to get rid and liked the way things were panning out. However, his comments after Saturday and previous games were starting to worry me.

He seemed TOO hung up about the other team was going to play and tinkering too much as a result.

I think something must have happened behind the scenes for this to be so sudden but I’m not sure we’ll ever know the full story.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:46 am

I voted no with reservations….think the football was better to watch and he did a good job of clearing out and bringing in but he showed inexperience in press conferences and team changes….
It takes longer than 10 games or whatever to get it right in the pitch with so much change but there’s no excuses for some of his player management….I think in the end, he was more worried about who we were playing than focusing on us winning (the performance over winning bit was just a smokescreen to divert from some poor results imo)

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:48 am

piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
JW_Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
JW_Bluebird wrote:Absolutely not from a footballing perspective. If you task a manager of bringing in 15+ players and completely changing our style of play you have to accept there's always going to be a transition period. I wasn't Morison's biggest fan but I was happy with the players he brought in on such a small budget. We deserve some answers from the board.

It's rather baffling really. Why did they let him carry on this season yet only ten games in and like you said more or less a new squad he's supposed to have brought in ( if they was his players of course ) just makes no sence why they let him carry on this season with everything the club had to do squad wise then cheerio after 10 games. Bonkers, but what do we know about whats gone on :bluescarf:

Exactly. Why trust an inexperienced manager to revamp virtually our entire squad just to sack him 8 weeks into a season? The football hasn't been incredible but that Boro first half performance on Tuesday night filled me with so much hope that it *could* turn into something great with a bit of time. Can only imagine it all went off behind the scenes but ultimately I feel this football club won't go anywhere with the current board/ownership.

6 losses in 8 games and his comments in the media were pathetic after Saturday that's why he's gone .


I think it’s way too early to get rid and liked the way things were panning out. However, his comments after Saturday and previous games were starting to worry me.

He seemed TOO hung up about the other team was going to play and tinkering too much as a result.

I think something must have happened behind the scenes for this to be so sudden but I’m not sure we’ll ever know the full story.

It worried me big time his comments we should worry about ourselfs 1st not other teams .

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:53 am

Let’s hope the rumours of Hudson been given it til the end of the season aren’t true. I believe if he gets it we will be lucky to stay in the league . We need someone with experience to take this squad forward and build the team around the like if Colwill

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:57 am

i voted yes but wouldn't have yesterday morning as I was hoping he'd find his way and without a managerial upgrade, what's the point?

on reflection, we caught Norwich cold as in essence, this was a new manager bounce as it was a new team with a partisan crowd. I was on hols but apparently, we hammered Brum but on won by a single goal and Boro look as lost as us and the early goal shook them, but we nearly gave it away.
Against any solid unspectacular championship team, we struggle to penetrate.

why Hudson would improve us is beyond me

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:58 am

I believe that it was the right decision, and further more I believe it was a big mistake giving SM a contract in the first place. The so called "transfers committee" should have waited until the start of the Season.
I'll never forgive SM for the performance last April v Scumsea, and the post match twaddle and bull shit that emanated from his gob. Fast forward a few months, new team, new set up, but behind the scenes was everything ever right? Results and performances strongly suggest that they were not. If the rumours of bullying, and arrogant, autocratic man management are correct, then who knows? Im sure it will all come out in the wash in due course.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:14 am

llan bluebird wrote:Without a plan its crazy, why would Hudson be any better than Morison unless it was a real bust-up and some senior players (whoever they are) have lost trust in the rookie coach?

I blame the club for thinking a rookie coach was the answer in what was always going to be a difficult position.


Tend to agree here. If no plan to bring someone in then what point did they think this would help?

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:17 am

Nope, terrible decision. Made worse by the fact we clearly haven't got anyone lined up.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:34 am

CCFC board are a shambles . We all know they will give it to Hudson as they don’t have to spend a penny . IMO we will be lucky to stay up due to the lack of managerial experience we need . Tan needs to sell up ! We are being made like an even bigger joke of a club

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:39 am

It's only the correct decision if they get the right person to replace him. Simple as. Think his sacking took most of us by surprise, no speculation what so ever. I feel it is important we try to stick to a similar style of football Morison tried to get us to playing. I'm on the fence with this one as feel Morison was close to getting it to click. Vital we get the right replacement. Money talks tho.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:51 am

I was worried about his subs and team selection to be honest I also heard some players are not happy with him especially his attitude towards certain players was a concern why was he not picking Rubin Colwill when he proved he is good enough why didnt play Gavin White as he was banging them in in friendlies and the under 23s as Watters struggle but Morrison seemed arrogant to it.

I dont know if it to early as we might have waited to Xmas and it might have been to late something was not right.

All I will say its never boring with us

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:39 am

This poll isn't really representative IMO as on Facebook at least the official club statement comments are mainly pasting the club for the decision.

They could have at least waited to the World Cup, see if it improved and then they could have had time to get a shortlist together in advance if sacking was still the decision.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:53 am

I voted yes it was right to sack him. It was clear he was taking us down to league 1. Personally I don’t think that the football was very good at all. If it was so brilliant why were we only able to score more than 1 goal in a single game this season. There seems to be a huge number of people on here who appreciate passing football so much that they don’t actually care very much about the results.

Have people considered the fact that the team may well have jelled, they’ve had enough time to and simply aren’t a very good team one that can play pretty football but isn’t very good at winning matches

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:19 am

wez1927 wrote:
JW_Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
JW_Bluebird wrote:Absolutely not from a footballing perspective. If you task a manager of bringing in 15+ players and completely changing our style of play you have to accept there's always going to be a transition period. I wasn't Morison's biggest fan but I was happy with the players he brought in on such a small budget. We deserve some answers from the board.

It's rather baffling really. Why did they let him carry on this season yet only ten games in and like you said more or less a new squad he's supposed to have brought in ( if they was his players of course ) just makes no sence why they let him carry on this season with everything the club had to do squad wise then cheerio after 10 games. Bonkers, but what do we know about whats gone on :bluescarf:

Exactly. Why trust an inexperienced manager to revamp virtually our entire squad just to sack him 8 weeks into a season? The football hasn't been incredible but that Boro first half performance on Tuesday night filled me with so much hope that it *could* turn into something great with a bit of time. Can only imagine it all went off behind the scenes but ultimately I feel this football club won't go anywhere with the current board/ownership.

6 losses in 8 games and his comments in the media were pathetic after Saturday that's why he's gone .

Wez, he was on a relative hiding to nothing and what you say above is going to have been a huge factor...

I have done some additional research and suggestions of a 'heated' discussion after the last game were correct and there was a sudden and irretrievable loss of trust and faith that tripped the trapdoor a little earlier than most would have expected

I reiterate my comment from another thread that despite my general support for Morison and his creditable efforts, the decision was right in the longer term

Now they simply have to get the next one right...

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:28 am

Crayfish wrote:I voted yes it was right to sack him. It was clear he was taking us down to league 1. Personally I don’t think that the football was very good at all. If it was so brilliant why were we only able to score more than 1 goal in a single game this season. There seems to be a huge number of people on here who appreciate passing football so much that they don’t actually care very much about the results.

Have people considered the fact that the team may well have jelled, they’ve had enough time to and simply aren’t a very good team one that can play pretty football but isn’t very good at winning matches

Fair point but from my perspective we were still 'work in progress' after all this summer's upheaval

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:36 pm

Of course we were a work in progress and progress was being made. It was always going to take time rebuilding a squad to play a brand of football not seen in over a decade whilst lowering the wage bill. In a sense he had the same thankless task as Slade in that it was an operation to rid of the deadwood of previous managers but with the added instruction of changing style.

If the club rip up the progress made to the point then it will be an outrage as the roots of becoming an actual football side and not one which plays 5 centre backs is there to see.

Re: Poll " Was it the right decision? "

Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:55 pm

I’d have sacked him after Millwall shocker !!