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Re: MY VIEW: " NOT A GOOD DAY & HONESTY NO REAL THREAT "

Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:00 pm

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Re: MY VIEW: " NOT A GOOD DAY & HONESTY NO REAL THREAT "

Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:21 pm

P as poor upfront yet again

Re: MY VIEW: " NOT A GOOD DAY & HONESTY NO REAL THREAT "

Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:25 pm

Howieblue wrote:We need to be patient, get a settled side, and start working hard, if we survive this year, we will be a force next year.



My stance has always been that I will give Morrison until the end of the season to prove himself, but if it looks like he is taking us down he should go. Anyone reading this thread just before the season started about what a remarkable and wonderful job Morrison had done in the transfer window would have at least expected a fight for the play offs due to the all round brilliance of Morrison as a manager. It seems the goalposts have been moved to “if we survive this season”.

I’ve always thought that as Morrison has never had any other managerial job he could prove to be anything from a very good manager to a complete dud. The jury is still out on this but the arrow is pointing in the wrong direction.

To me he seems to be almost obsessed with passing the ball out of defence as many of his fans seem to be at the expense of actually winning matches. I preferred Malkys side which could mix up passing the football with the judicious use of the long ball.

Has anyone considered the view that Morrison might be pretty good on the transfer market but hasn’t a clue how to set up an effective attacking team?

Re: MY VIEW: " NOT A GOOD DAY & HONESTY NO REAL THREAT "

Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:22 pm

llan bluebird wrote:it's naive, because SM is naive at this (or any) level. Lets hope he learns pretty quickly.

We have no originality, its straight from the new coach's playbook. Warnock used to rip teams like ours apart, even when they had better players. Pretty triangles in our own third allow teams to regroup. They practice their defensive formation day after day and we are no better at pulling teams out of shape than half the division.

We need to get the ball forward quicker, and we need midfielders to run, in possession, all they do is walk with the ball, we run in a defensive press formation, but that's it. It's very very static.

He has to drop this idea we are Citeh, we are never regularly going to pull teams out of formation and have overloads. we don't have that capability. There is nothing wrong with a 50 yard diagonal over their full-backs head, not every time but we need to mix it up.

He'll learn or he won't be coming back after the world cup.

A question, Are Hudson and Rasamut up to or do they need an old head in there ?


That’s a very good question regarding Hudson and Rasamut, because I’ve thought it myself. At the moment it would appear (to me anyway) that they are a part of the problem,,,, the blind being led by the blind,,, if you know what I mean?

Re: MY VIEW: " NOT A GOOD DAY & HONESTY NO REAL THREAT "

Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:50 pm

We've cried out for younger players over the last few seasons, but they've got to be good enough. I'm worried that some of them aren't up to it and you look out onto the pitch, who are the leaders? Who's that one player that everything happens around, who have we got up front that gives centre backs the chills when they see him warming up? I think these are the players that we're missing week in week out.

Re: MY VIEW: " NOT A GOOD DAY & HONESTY NO REAL THREAT "

Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:05 pm

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Re: MY VIEW: " NOT A GOOD DAY & HONESTY NO REAL THREAT "

Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:51 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:it's naive, because SM is naive at this (or any) level. Lets hope he learns pretty quickly.

We have no originality, its straight from the new coach's playbook. Warnock used to rip teams like ours apart, even when they had better players. Pretty triangles in our own third allow teams to regroup. They practice their defensive formation day after day and we are no better at pulling teams out of shape than half the division.

We need to get the ball forward quicker, and we need midfielders to run, in possession, all they do is walk with the ball, we run in a defensive press formation, but that's it. It's very very static.

He has to drop this idea we are Citeh, we are never regularly going to pull teams out of formation and have overloads. we don't have that capability. There is nothing wrong with a 50 yard diagonal over their full-backs head, not every time but we need to mix it up.

He'll learn or he won't be coming back after the world cup.

A question, Are Hudson and Rasamut up to or do they need an old head in there ?


That’s a very good question regarding Hudson and Rasamut, because I’ve thought it myself. At the moment it would appear (to me anyway) that they are a part of the problem,,,, the blind being led by the blind,,, if you know what I mean?



It can't be that easy or everyone would do their badges and hit the football gravy train.

We have no evidence that SM is an effective manager or Hudson or Rasamut are effective coaches. It's the same naivety that thought half our U23's could make the step up to championship first teamers, when in fact none of them have done it.

i don't recall Huson or SM being part of a high press 433 systems, maybe we need to bring in someone with that knowledge. We seem to rely on analysts and rookie coaches.

Trollope tried to change us, he had 10 years as a coach in some decent setups and couldn't make the step up to lead and he knew his stuff.

I think we need to bring an old head in.

Re: MY VIEW: " NOT A GOOD DAY & HONESTY NO REAL THREAT "

Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:01 am

I missed the game 'live' today, so had to wait to see it late evening and it was certainly disappointing, although I agree with the OP that we had the better chances and might have been a goal ahead before the first Millwall game; a position I feel we are more equipped to deal with than we are coming back from a goal down...

Our team is new and still bonding and surely the same rules apply when those who said "don't get carried away" when we started the season so well are now seeing us have the dip in form (admittedly through lack of goals) that was likely

Forever Blue said at the start of the season "let's see where we are after a dozen games" and for me that still stands. We are very much 'a work in progress' and Steve Morison is still trying to piece together the jig-saw by introducing the newest member of the squad (Robinson) in the second half. He might have been quiet but be fair, it was his first game in a Bluebird shirt...

Some of the same people who were waxing lyrical about our new style a short time ago are now the first to turn when the going gets even a little tough. I can understand the frustration but not some of the stuff being said and the vilification of certain individual team members and the manager (and now his coaches)

We need a tad of patience and allow the team to develop without the extreme highs and extreme lows solely depending on the result at this point. I sort of see Steve Morison's point regarding performances and we haven't been too bad up to the final third

In a few more games, it might be time to properly worry; or it may be time to see our team starting to gel and push their way back up the table

We mostly agreed this would be a development season and maybe we just got a little carried away with that early success against Norwich City?