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Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:28 pm

Maybe its Mr B from Madrid ,he will be looking for somewhere after June.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:54 pm

64Ninian wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Ive just been told an American guy has shown interest,has asked what we want for club.

Another Hollywood star maybe :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



I'm hearing its Samuel L Jackson.

Legend. Has Welsh heritage too. Saw him wearing a kilt in the awesome film 51st state. ( Welsh tartan).

When I say this is what I'm hearing; it's the voices in my head.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:11 pm

bluebirdrob wrote:Maybe its Mr B from Madrid ,he will be looking for somewhere after June.

Hmmmmmmm

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:41 pm

I'll pay for Tans taxi, hywl fawr :wave:

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:03 pm

Been following the Derby debacle and our story has started to do the rounds. The theories are getting wild.
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Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:46 pm

Careful what you wish for we still have to comply with ffp. It's not just a case of throwing millions at it.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:09 pm

mallo wrote:I have heard from a good source in London someone in Spain as put an attractive offer !!!!! Hmmm :bluescarf: :bluescarf: lol dig deep Mr A

Wonder if Gareth Bale have teamed up with others and made a bid. :D :D :D :laughing6: :laughing6: .

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:08 pm

M4 Exile wrote:Anyone but Americans.


Why?

Own Arsenal doing well
Part own Villa doing well
Took over Burnley and have invested
Majority shareholding Palace, punching well
Half own Leeds doing ok
Own Liverpool no words needed
10% stake in Man City and West Ham
69% majority at Man Utd

Own Millwall, Jacks and Coventry all doing better than us and Plymouth going for automatic from League 1 in 4th and Pompey 10th

American owners seem to be doing ok, not sure why you are against them, genuinly interested to know?

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:38 am

Wayne S wrote:Been following the Derby debacle and our story has started to do the rounds. The theories are getting wild.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Ashley wanted us

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:41 am

so it looks like the preferred bidder for Derby is the american, who has tabled a new offer, after speaking to other championship clubs regarding buying them including PNE, so i wouldn't be suprised if he was one of the people "who asked" about the clubs availability.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:47 am

wez1927 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Been following the Derby debacle and our story has started to do the rounds. The theories are getting wild.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Ashley wanted us


What's the problem with Ashley? He was hated at Newcastle.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:54 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Been following the Derby debacle and our story has started to do the rounds. The theories are getting wild.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Ashley wanted us


What's the problem with Ashley? He was hated at Newcastle.


Got to be honest, he wouldn't be anywhere near my first choice.

People criticise Tan for not being engaged, Ashley was downright antagonistic to Newcastle fans :roll:

The only positive is that having sold Newcastle he'd certainly have enough money to not only buy us and to invest in the club too ........................... if he wanted to.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:17 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Been following the Derby debacle and our story has started to do the rounds. The theories are getting wild.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Ashley wanted us


What's the problem with Ashley? He was hated at Newcastle.


He's obviously a bit marmite.

I haven't seen a Derby fan who DOESN'T want him to buy them.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:46 am

piledriver64 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Been following the Derby debacle and our story has started to do the rounds. The theories are getting wild.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Ashley wanted us


What's the problem with Ashley? He was hated at Newcastle.


Got to be honest, he wouldn't be anywhere near my first choice.

People criticise Tan for not being engaged, Ashley was downright antagonistic to Newcastle fans :roll:

The only positive is that having sold Newcastle he'd certainly have enough money to not only buy us and to invest in the club too ........................... if he wanted to.


Yep well I have a Newcastle fan as a friend and she hated him. This was when we were playing in Red and I thought how can you hate him that much at least you still have your colours.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:02 am

I hear all of the negative things about Mike Ashley - and while I agree with some of them, perhaps part of the problem was that Newcastle fans wanted and expected him to go out and buy players for 40 and 50 million and to be competing with the likes of Man U and Chelsea etc?

Newcastle are a great club and I imagine the fans were frustrated at lack of spending - which was still significant when you look at some of their purchases.

Ironically, we have a fan base, whose club have spaffed so much money away in the last decade, that a more conservative purse string, like that of Ashley at Newcastle, would be welcome... building up a squad methodically and integrating the youngsters.

I dunno.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:21 am

Springboard for yank hedge funders to make money with no intention of loving the club or some arab looking to launder money whilst investing in other areas a round the world. Its all bollox, modern day football fecks me right off. Fan owned Co-operatives are the way forward, seems to be doing ok with those clubs who are albeit a bit of financial hardship at Barca but other models are working well.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:24 pm

1980s Bluebird wrote:Springboard for yank hedge funders to make money with no intention of loving the club or some arab looking to launder money whilst investing in other areas a round the world. Its all bollox, modern day football fecks me right off. Fan owned Co-operatives are the way forward, seems to be doing ok with those clubs who are albeit a bit of financial hardship at Barca but other models are working well.



Fan led co operative is ok for smaller clubs in efl fans on board ect is way forward if they have a voice on way a club is run ...... the Barca example is flawed as firstly they and Madrid take something like 75% of tv revenues for themselves and they were financed by banks so far removed from clubs in efl run by co-operative? Only reason Barca are in trouble is la liga put a stop to some of their
financial cheating.....thats why they are in such a mess and still are...

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:58 pm

Plenty of far bigger clubs than ours around the world who are fan owned :ayatollah:

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:03 pm

I don't really want an owner to come in and put us further in debt so we can become at best a mid table premier league side. I'd rather live within our means, bring through young talent playing the right way and be clever in the market and have a competitive championship side who might just end up building a strong enough side to make it without splurging endless cash.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:13 pm

1980s Bluebird wrote:Plenty of far bigger clubs than ours around the world who are fan owned :ayatollah:


Not in this country to my knowledge and the ones that were/are end up being taken over again.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:16 pm

Wayne S wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Been following the Derby debacle and our story has started to do the rounds. The theories are getting wild.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Ashley wanted us


What's the problem with Ashley? He was hated at Newcastle.


He's obviously a bit marmite.

I haven't seen a Derby fan who DOESN'T want him to buy them.


In fairness, if I was a Derby fan faced with my club actually going out of business I wouldn't be too fussy either :lol:

We're not in that position, thankfully.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:18 pm

As the old saying goes “The best way to make a small fortune from buying a football club is to start with a large fortune”. :old:

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:19 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
1980s Bluebird wrote:Plenty of far bigger clubs than ours around the world who are fan owned :ayatollah:


Not in this country to my knowledge and the ones that were/are end up being taken over again.

Correct, Martin; even the 'Jacks' tried it (to an extent) and it failed

For me, supporter ownership doesn't work because there is too much conflict of interest between what the supporters want and what the (usually well meaning) owners can provide on their budget

What can work is a credible Supporters Trust (we have one, although I am not a member) who are positively received by the club's owners/Board (that we seemingly do not have)

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:08 pm

Sven wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
1980s Bluebird wrote:Plenty of far bigger clubs than ours around the world who are fan owned :ayatollah:


Not in this country to my knowledge and the ones that were/are end up being taken over again.

Correct, Martin; even the 'Jacks' tried it (to an extent) and it failed

For me, supporter ownership doesn't work because there is too much conflict of interest between what the supporters want and what the (usually well meaning) owners can provide on their budget

What can work is a credible Supporters Trust (we have one, although I am not a member) who are positively received by the club's owners/Board (that we seemingly do not have)



Being fan owned who supplies the finances particularly reference championship? Fan ownership and fans on the board are two entirely different things .... Barca who are fan owned who supplies the financial resources certainly not fans even though they own it? Fan ownership in championship is a non starter for any club with ambition to get promotion in fact its doomed to fail and suspect end up in relegation after couple of seasons. And as you say Chris to much conflict between financiers and fans .

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:48 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Ive just been told an American guy has shown interest,has asked what we want for club.



I'm being told from my source that they've offered a fredo and a pack of space raiders.

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:07 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Ive just been told an American guy has shown interest,has asked what we want for club.



I'm being told from my source that they've offered a fredo and a pack of space raiders.

Up it by a Dime Bar and it's a Yankee Doodle Dandy deal...! :ayatollah: :lol:

Re: Exclusive: Investors circle Cardiff City and Vincent Tan

Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:00 am

nubbsy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Ive just been told an American guy has shown interest,has asked what we want for club.



I'm being told from my source that they've offered a fredo and a pack of space raiders.


Not sure what a space raider is but they need to offer 2 bags of pickled onion monster munch, that should get his attention.