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Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:55 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Colwill going backwards!

Jeez, I can’t believe some of the comments on here - except form Barclay.

Give him a chance he’s a young kid. Anyone can see. He’s got potential, whether that’s realised or not is another matter.



What does potential mean? Surely he has to be smashing the league to bits, he's had a Wales call up.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:51 am

Morison is spot on and ruben just needs to work at his game off the ball. Possibly fitness is an issue in terms of closing down? He has talent for sure and just needs time.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:13 am

Pulisnewport wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:We have tried to be conditioned by some into believing Colwill and the other youngsters were something out of the ordinary.

I've never rated the youngsters however one or two are now showing some promise. Colwill was not one of them.

How he got a Wales call up, I don't k ow if anyone will know.


I never expected a decent response from you. To ridicule any youngster from our club is extremely poor in my opinion and if anything sums up your ex referee background.

Mike Riley you are without a doubt and I wonder why you in fact support the club in anyway besides trying to be a Mod (because that’s what you’re after).

He’s a young lad who needs to grow and understand football something you obviously do not understand at all. You might have your opinions which I understand are yours but your understanding of players are completely in line with Mike Riley the referees champion which are totally out of touch of the normal supporters.


Pray tell me where I have ridiculed him? Ive just said he's not good enough? Clearly, this board, moreso yourself, doesn't allow opinions ( or does from posters other the myself).

I support the club because they are my home town club. 48+ years, highs and lows, home and away. Means nothing to you though because I have an opinion. And no, I wouldn't want a mod job on this board.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:21 am

castleblue wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Colwill is the big decision for the club

Sell him for peanuts to a footballing club to develop the obvious talent or find a first team coach who doesn't play whatever he just leaned in coach school. He doesn't fit our 532 or if you listen to SM a 352

his first touch tells you he is a talent, it's obvious he isn't going to go tearing around the pitch and we love all that, has he scored more than davies in less mins ( i think Davies is the real deal)

We need someone in charge who know their shit and not wet behind the ears. Colwell needs the ball to his feet in the final third


Hit the nail right on the head there as Colwill has scored a goal every 105 minutes he is on the pitch and that from limited appearances in a struggling team. Compare that to Collins who has scored a goal every 470 minutes only Ikpeazu is better this season.

Not bad for a youngster.


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Agree, Gary; both Rubin Colwill and Isaak Davies are rare gems to be found at our club and we need to nurture them to success rather than denting their confidence through impatience; a common affliction of the modern football supporter

I see big futures for both at our club and, assuming that is how it turns out, the club will benefit either from promotion or sell on fees; a rarity at our club in recent years

Rubin Colwill wasn't 'bad' yesterday against runaway leaders (and blatant cheats) Fulham; he was just part of a Bluebird team that lacked possession and (to some extent) direction for a large part of the game

I back Rubin Colwill to come through for us (from the start or more likely the bench) v the Derby Blizzard XI on Tuesday and go on to be a positive asset to our club going forward; exactly the type of young talent we have been waiting for so long

The jury (of one in my case) is still out on Steve Morison, which is why I'd wait until the end of the season before looking at his future, although as it stands he has impressed me overall and I do think he has the makings of a good Championship manager. I am also impressed by his apparent honesty, which seems to have had a positive effect

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:34 am

The current fashion in football right now is for smaller, low centre of gravity quick players with a high work rate.

I believe the lad is 6'3" he isn't going to be tearing around the park, that is a lot of body to move around. Mitrovic just walks around the park and occasionally sprints. I know that Colwill is not Mitrovic, but bigger lads are not easy on the eye. Collins runs around like a farmer chasing kids

Every shit ball whacked into him yesterday was controlled and he made something positive out of it.

I maintain he is a 9, not like Hugil more like Firmino/Jota or Kane in that he'll drop into midfield allowing the wide forward to hone in on goal. For that we need a team who can pass the ball, its far too slow and cumbersome. Watching Flint,McGuiness (sure he is from Arsenal) with the ball is scary.

We need Hugil because for all the pretence of passing we just shuffle it backwards unil Smithies or Flint whack it as hard as they can.

We need to get a coach who has a plan. Not one from the Eufa coaching book, they all have that, someone who has actually done something and would finf the solution for Colwell

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:12 pm

Morrisons man management is not very good. I know for a fact he try’s to belittle the young players. I don’t like Morrisons attitude and would not be unhappy to see him leave at the end of the season. I believe we would see a massive improvement in the side and the youngsters in particular if Craig Bellamy was the manager.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:42 pm

Wardy64 wrote:Morrisons man management is not very good. I know for a fact he try’s to belittle the young players. I don’t like Morrisons attitude and would not be unhappy to see him leave at the end of the season. I believe we would see a massive improvement in the side and the youngsters in particular if Craig Bellamy was the manager.


You think morison is bad with man management and Bellamy isn't...from what I know of Bellamy you are far from right

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:04 pm

Wardy64 wrote:Morrisons man management is not very good. I know for a fact he try’s to belittle the young players. I don’t like Morrisons attitude and would not be unhappy to see him leave at the end of the season. I believe we would see a massive improvement in the side and the youngsters in particular if Craig Bellamy was the manager.


Morisons man management can't be that bad. He completely transformed the u23s. Results and performances significantly improved when he was in charge. That wouldn't happen if he was upsetting the players.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:12 pm

Colwill is 19 years old and was brought into a struggling side and was expected to carry us. All our youngsters have struggled at times this season. Like Davies, he just needs to knuckle down in training.

We are still heavily reliant on a target man for an outlet. Colwill isn't suited to play that role but isn't quick enough to play the role Davies is playing. Until we start playing a better passing game, we won't see the best of colwill. I'd like to see him play in a team when ralls, wintle and Doyle are playing. Whenever I watched the u23s, he would dictate the play through the middle. Everything seemed to go through him.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:13 pm

City slicker27 wrote:
Wardy64 wrote:Morrisons man management is not very good. I know for a fact he try’s to belittle the young players. I don’t like Morrisons attitude and would not be unhappy to see him leave at the end of the season. I believe we would see a massive improvement in the side and the youngsters in particular if Craig Bellamy was the manager.


Morisons man management can't be that bad. He completely transformed the u23s. Results and performances significantly improved when he was in charge. That wouldn't happen if he was upsetting the players.


Agreed, man management of youngsters is the only doubt I have on Morison but as soon as Wardy64 suggests that Bellamy might be a better option it slightly weakened his argument!!!!!!!!

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:44 pm

boyo1927 wrote:Morison is spot on and ruben just needs to work at his game off the ball. Possibly fitness is an issue in terms of closing down? He has talent for sure and just needs time.

Agree he looks like he's put weight on and I think he need to work on his physical sharpness,he's definitely got talent

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:08 pm

Wardy64 wrote:Morrisons man management is not very good. I know for a fact he try’s to belittle the young players. I don’t like Morrisons attitude and would not be unhappy to see him leave at the end of the season. I believe we would see a massive improvement in the side and the youngsters in particular if Craig Bellamy was the manager.


Ha ha Bellamy the diplomat.

The man who was hated at every club he has been at.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:38 pm

nubbsy wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Colwill going backwards!

Jeez, I can’t believe some of the comments on here - except form Barclay.

Give him a chance he’s a young kid. Anyone can see. He’s got potential, whether that’s realised or not is another matter.



What does potential mean? Surely he has to be smashing the league to bits, he's had a Wales call up.


True because at 19 years of age he should be consistently brilliant every game. Well some on here think that anyway mate :lol:

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:45 pm

Wardy64 wrote:Morrisons man management is not very good. I know for a fact he try’s to belittle the young players. I don’t like Morrisons attitude and would not be unhappy to see him leave at the end of the season. I believe we would see a massive improvement in the side and the youngsters in particular if Craig Bellamy was the manager.


Morrison as in Sean Morrison?

If you mean Steve Morison I’d suggest his man management is spot on.

He knows the youngsters better than anyone.
He’s brought them on with great success.
He knows when to bollock them or encourage them by different means.
He’s got Bagan and Davies playing really well and even Harris has improved. Colwill has had some brilliant appearances and scored goals for us.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:09 pm

I think to judge Colwill properly we need to see him in a team with say Hugill and Davies with him instead of Collins who he always seems to get lumbered with.
He is always going to be one of those players who looks lazy but can produce some magic. Next season is when he needs to push on if he is going to make it.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:59 pm

CantonStandBob wrote:I think to judge Colwill properly we need to see him in a team with say Hugill and Davies with him instead of Collins who he always seems to get lumbered with.
He is always going to be one of those players who looks lazy but can produce some magic. Next season is when he needs to push on if he is going to make it.

Agree in some ways needs better players than Collins.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:33 pm

wez1927 wrote:It was his big chance to shine today and he was very average ,was so hoping we found a gem but he just seems to coast in games, looks like he's carrying a bit of weight atm ,which make s him a bit short of that spark .hopefully can up his levels .


Colwill was hit by the bug that was going around he was never going to be the best player on the pitch. He done well to last as long as he did.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:35 pm

We have more promising young players making appearances in the first team this season than I can remember in many a year.
Players like Colwill need time to develop. We are in the Championship after all, which is a high level.
Of course, they will make mistakes, but consistency will come with experience.
I think it's very encouraging that Steve Morrison has given our young lads plenty of game time this season. Hopefully, the dividends will pay off over the next few years.

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:14 pm

So Ruben was one of the players who got the sickness.
He told the manager he would give it a go..
Commendable indeed

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:22 pm

stickywicket wrote:So Ruben was one of the players who got the sickness.
He told the manager he would give it a go..
Commendable indeed

May explain his lackluster display then .

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:23 pm

70s/80s lad wrote:
wez1927 wrote:It was his big chance to shine today and he was very average ,was so hoping we found a gem but he just seems to coast in games, looks like he's carrying a bit of weight atm ,which make s him a bit short of that spark .hopefully can up his levels .


Colwill was hit by the bug that was going around he was never going to be the best player on the pitch. He done well to last as long as he did.
fair point he did seem off the pace ,I'm desperate for him to take his chance tbh ,hopefully will the next time he gets it,

Re: Colwill going backwards?

Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:23 pm

wez1927 wrote:
70s/80s lad wrote:
wez1927 wrote:It was his big chance to shine today and he was very average ,was so hoping we found a gem but he just seems to coast in games, looks like he's carrying a bit of weight atm ,which make s him a bit short of that spark .hopefully can up his levels .


Colwill was hit by the bug that was going around he was never going to be the best player on the pitch. He done well to last as long as he did.
fair point he did seem off the pace ,I'm desperate for him to take his chance tbh ,hopefully will the next time he gets it,



Maybe stop jumping on him when he has an off day then. Let's support them and give them time and patience, not pressure and unfounded claims. :thumbright: