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Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:22 pm

Nathan Walker wrote:Ipswich away with an injury hit squad. I will judge him after the next few weeks not on two games.

I Agree!! Tell me who is a better manager out there at the moment who is available ? we cant go on a whitch hunt at DJ. Keep the faith and judge us at Crimbo. Lets get our players fit.

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:40 pm

We will always be a soft touch under DJ. Today was the classic 0-0 yet we gift them the game. Putting Matthews at right back away from home is suicide, unfortunate McNaughton went off again, but why not put Darcy at right back and bring Koumas on in midfield, or even Paul Quinn at right back? When you have little 5'5 Nathan Dyer outjumping you for a header, it's obvious Matthews will never be defensively solid enough to be a full back, he's a wing back or a winger.

Whatever decisions or players we have available, I don't think any other team would have gifted the game to Ipswich like we did today, it's simply not good enough.

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:56 pm

No team would cope with the 5 injuries we've had they are quality players so every team would struggle!! how would qpr cope without mackie he's scoring all their goals!!
I'm backing dave jones 100%

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:16 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
Nathan Walker wrote:Ipswich away with an injury hit squad. I will judge him after the next few weeks not on two games.

I Agree!! Tell me who is a better manager out there at the moment who is available ? we cant go on a whitch hunt at DJ. Keep the faith and judge us at Crimbo. Lets get our players fit.


Add Peterborough away to that we were shocking, Ive named 5 managers before.

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:18 pm

castleblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:But Dave Jones is Not This SUPER MANAGER YOU ALL KEEP SAYING HE IS, Please read

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22437



Sorry to say I think we could see this coming and I know the injured players are a big loss, let's face it they would be a big loss to any team.

But having said all that when I watched DJ pre match interview yesterday I suspected the worse. His body language just shouted out "woe is me".

The interview was just over 5 minutes and as usual contained his 3 stock questions and answers. I won't know about the injured players until we have a look at them, there are no easy games in this league and it's a lot to ask players who haven't played much since Noah was a boy to play 3 games a week.

If that was the basis of his team talk then little wonder the lads in the "black" failed to turn up today.

Forget the injured players and ask yourself if Roy Keane, Neil Warnock, Kevin Blackwell or Billy Davies would accept these performances.

DJ will and when we hear his after match commments expect the stock answers, you cannot defend like that an expect to get anything, look we'll get the lads in tomorrow and show them the video and of course this will be seen as the end of the world in our part of the world. He will pobably dump on Adam Matthews as well because he only gets a look in when the only other option is Quinn.

Never mind the injured players will be back soon, results will improve, we will maintain our position in the top 6 but the test of a manager is not how you do when the sun is shinning.

Sadly we know with our manager exactly how we do when it's raining. :evil: :evil: :evil:



NO THEY DEF WOULD NOT ACCEPT THEM, PLUS MANY MANY GAMES OVER THE YRS WHICH HE HAS NOT SORTED OUT.

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:19 pm

We will have suspensions and injuries over the course of the season and I would be surprised if more than 2 players play every game but that said I would very shocked if we have the amount of injuries to so many key players again this season. If we had won today then it would have been our best start in 51 years, you know what that means don't you ? Despite the number of promotions and cup success we have had in the last 5 decades we were 90 minutes away from the best ever start to a campaign.

Even the most adamant of you that want him out and think he is not the man to take us forward surely have sympathy with the injuries.

The 'Jones Out ' brigade ( sorry dont know what else to call you :D ) are in a win-win situation the way I see, if we get promoted then every City fan will be delirious and celebrate but if we miss out then DJ goes, so I think it could be an easy year for those who doubt him.

Is he the perfect manager, no he is it and that is the reason he is with Cardiff City, but to get on his back after 2, and I admit, poor results is unfair I believe.

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:23 pm

carlccfc wrote:We will have suspensions and injuries over the course of the season and I would be surprised if more than 2 players play every game but that said I would very shocked if we have the amount of injuries to so many key players again this season. If we had won today then it would have been our best start in 51 years, you know what that means don't you ? Despite the number of promotions and cup success we have had in the last 5 decades we were 90 minutes away from the best ever start to a campaign.

Even the most adamant of you that want him out and think he is not the man to take us forward surely have sympathy with the injuries.

The 'Jones Out ' brigade ( sorry dont know what else to call you :D ) are in a win-win situation the way I see, if we get promoted then every City fan will be delirious and celebrate but if we miss out then DJ goes, so I think it could be an easy year for those who doubt him.

Is he the perfect manager, no he is it and that is the reason he is with Cardiff City, but to get on his back after 2, and I admit, poor results is unfair I believe.



Carl, I Have Every Sympathy with the injuries, but so will other managers have injuries, every season he fails, HE IS TO INCONSISTANT.

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:27 pm

carlccfc wrote:We will have suspensions and injuries over the course of the season and I would be surprised if more than 2 players play every game but that said I would very shocked if we have the amount of injuries to so many key players again this season. If we had won today then it would have been our best start in 51 years, you know what that means don't you ? Despite the number of promotions and cup success we have had in the last 5 decades we were 90 minutes away from the best ever start to a campaign.

Even the most adamant of you that want him out and think he is not the man to take us forward surely have sympathy with the injuries.

The 'Jones Out ' brigade ( sorry dont know what else to call you :D ) are in a win-win situation the way I see, if we get promoted then every City fan will be delirious and celebrate but if we miss out then DJ goes, so I think it could be an easy year for those who doubt him.

Is he the perfect manager, no he is it and that is the reason he is with Cardiff City, but to get on his back after 2, and I admit, poor results is unfair I believe.

great post carl..... totally agree with everything u said....lets see everyones opinion after the next 2 games..

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:29 pm

boyosback wrote:
carlccfc wrote:We will have suspensions and injuries over the course of the season and I would be surprised if more than 2 players play every game but that said I would very shocked if we have the amount of injuries to so many key players again this season. If we had won today then it would have been our best start in 51 years, you know what that means don't you ? Despite the number of promotions and cup success we have had in the last 5 decades we were 90 minutes away from the best ever start to a campaign.

Even the most adamant of you that want him out and think he is not the man to take us forward surely have sympathy with the injuries.

The 'Jones Out ' brigade ( sorry dont know what else to call you :D ) are in a win-win situation the way I see, if we get promoted then every City fan will be delirious and celebrate but if we miss out then DJ goes, so I think it could be an easy year for those who doubt him.

Is he the perfect manager, no he is it and that is the reason he is with Cardiff City, but to get on his back after 2, and I admit, poor results is unfair I believe.

great post carl..... totally agree with everything u said....lets see everyones opinion after the next 2 games..



Mine Always stays the same, Nearly 6 YEARS LATER. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:32 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
boyosback wrote:
carlccfc wrote:We will have suspensions and injuries over the course of the season and I would be surprised if more than 2 players play every game but that said I would very shocked if we have the amount of injuries to so many key players again this season. If we had won today then it would have been our best start in 51 years, you know what that means don't you ? Despite the number of promotions and cup success we have had in the last 5 decades we were 90 minutes away from the best ever start to a campaign.

Even the most adamant of you that want him out and think he is not the man to take us forward surely have sympathy with the injuries.

The 'Jones Out ' brigade ( sorry dont know what else to call you :D ) are in a win-win situation the way I see, if we get promoted then every City fan will be delirious and celebrate but if we miss out then DJ goes, so I think it could be an easy year for those who doubt him.

Is he the perfect manager, no he is it and that is the reason he is with Cardiff City, but to get on his back after 2, and I admit, poor results is unfair I believe.

great post carl..... totally agree with everything u said....lets see everyones opinion after the next 2 games..



Mine Always stays the same, Nearly 6 YEARS LATER. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


We'll win you round yet :lol:

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:35 pm

:lol: :lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
Paul, Promotion This Season and Then I will personally shake DJ's Hand and Apologise, but until then I wont change my mind, After This Season,IF WE FAIL AGAIN FOR THE 6th Season running, I will Never accept him.

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:07 pm

carlccfc wrote:We will have suspensions and injuries over the course of the season and I would be surprised if more than 2 players play every game but that said I would very shocked if we have the amount of injuries to so many key players again this season. If we had won today then it would have been our best start in 51 years, you know what that means don't you ? Despite the number of promotions and cup success we have had in the last 5 decades we were 90 minutes away from the best ever start to a campaign.

Even the most adamant of you that want him out and think he is not the man to take us forward surely have sympathy with the injuries.

The 'Jones Out ' brigade ( sorry dont know what else to call you :D ) are in a win-win situation the way I see, if we get promoted then every City fan will be delirious and celebrate but if we miss out then DJ goes, so I think it could be an easy year for those who doubt him.

Is he the perfect manager, no he is it and that is the reason he is with Cardiff City, but to get on his back after 2, and I admit, poor results is unfair I believe.


Also Carl, 108 games when Weve gone 1 nil down, Jones record 8 Wins, OUT OF 92 MANAGERS JONES 92nd :shock:

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:18 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
Nathan Walker wrote:Ipswich away with an injury hit squad. I will judge him after the next few weeks not on two games.

I Agree!! Tell me who is a better manager out there at the moment who is available ? we cant go on a whitch hunt at DJ. Keep the faith and judge us at Crimbo. Lets get our players fit.



well, we could get someone in who could do a job with the players we have for a fraction for his wage

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:19 pm

carlccfc wrote:We will have suspensions and injuries over the course of the season and I would be surprised if more than 2 players play every game but that said I would very shocked if we have the amount of injuries to so many key players again this season. If we had won today then it would have been our best start in 51 years, you know what that means don't you ? Despite the number of promotions and cup success we have had in the last 5 decades we were 90 minutes away from the best ever start to a campaign.

Even the most adamant of you that want him out and think he is not the man to take us forward surely have sympathy with the injuries.

The 'Jones Out ' brigade ( sorry dont know what else to call you :D ) are in a win-win situation the way I see, if we get promoted then every City fan will be delirious and celebrate but if we miss out then DJ goes, so I think it could be an easy year for those who doubt him.

Is he the perfect manager, no he is it and that is the reason he is with Cardiff City, but to get on his back after 2, and I admit, poor results is unfair I believe.



I have no problem being called one of the Lones Out Brigade as long as I can call you pro DJ crowd DJites :lol: :lol:

Anyway I have a question for you DJites he is forever telling us that players who miss a full pre season will take time to get to full match fitness, indeed who can forget the my players are fatigued whine on Tuesday evening.

Anyway to the point Connor Wickham played 83 minutes for Ipswich today and this 17 year old lad played a blinder putting himself about and kicking everything and everyone in sight. Now he was injured pre season and this was his first game back.

How on earth can he manage to put in a performance like that beating up our 2experienced CB in the process, according to DJ this is not possible or is it not possible for our players.

Are Ipswich doing something different to prepare the players or is it simply the Roy Keane effect.

I know to you DJites I will sound like a heratic but really this is just a legitimate question. ;) ;)

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:20 pm

castleblue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:We will have suspensions and injuries over the course of the season and I would be surprised if more than 2 players play every game but that said I would very shocked if we have the amount of injuries to so many key players again this season. If we had won today then it would have been our best start in 51 years, you know what that means don't you ? Despite the number of promotions and cup success we have had in the last 5 decades we were 90 minutes away from the best ever start to a campaign.

Even the most adamant of you that want him out and think he is not the man to take us forward surely have sympathy with the injuries.

The 'Jones Out ' brigade ( sorry dont know what else to call you :D ) are in a win-win situation the way I see, if we get promoted then every City fan will be delirious and celebrate but if we miss out then DJ goes, so I think it could be an easy year for those who doubt him.

Is he the perfect manager, no he is it and that is the reason he is with Cardiff City, but to get on his back after 2, and I admit, poor results is unfair I believe.



I have no problem being called one of the Lones Out Brigade as long as I can call you pro DJ crowd DJites :lol: :lol:

Anyway I have a question for you DJites he is forever telling us that players who miss a full pre season will take time to get to full match fitness, indeed who can forget the my players are fatigued whine on Tuesday evening.

Anyway to the point Connor Wickham played 83 minutes for Ipswich today and this 17 year old lad played a blinder putting himself about and kicking everything and everyone in sight. Now he was injured pre season and this was his first game back.

How on earth can he manage to put in a performance like that beating up our 2experienced CB in the process, according to DJ this is not possible or is it not possible for our players.

Are Ipswich doing something different to prepare the players or is it simply the Roy Keane effect.

I know to you DJites I will sound like a heratic but really this is just a legitimate question. ;) ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:26 pm

castleblue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:We will have suspensions and injuries over the course of the season and I would be surprised if more than 2 players play every game but that said I would very shocked if we have the amount of injuries to so many key players again this season. If we had won today then it would have been our best start in 51 years, you know what that means don't you ? Despite the number of promotions and cup success we have had in the last 5 decades we were 90 minutes away from the best ever start to a campaign.

Even the most adamant of you that want him out and think he is not the man to take us forward surely have sympathy with the injuries.

The 'Jones Out ' brigade ( sorry dont know what else to call you :D ) are in a win-win situation the way I see, if we get promoted then every City fan will be delirious and celebrate but if we miss out then DJ goes, so I think it could be an easy year for those who doubt him.

Is he the perfect manager, no he is it and that is the reason he is with Cardiff City, but to get on his back after 2, and I admit, poor results is unfair I believe.



I have no problem being called one of the Lones Out Brigade as long as I can call you pro DJ crowd DJites :lol: :lol:

Anyway I have a question for you DJites he is forever telling us that players who miss a full pre season will take time to get to full match fitness, indeed who can forget the my players are fatigued whine on Tuesday evening.

Anyway to the point Connor Wickham played 83 minutes for Ipswich today and this 17 year old lad played a blinder putting himself about and kicking everything and everyone in sight. Now he was injured pre season and this was his first game back.

How on earth can he manage to put in a performance like that beating up our 2experienced CB in the process, according to DJ this is not possible or is it not possible for our players.

Are Ipswich doing something different to prepare the players or is it simply the Roy Keane effect.

I know to you DJites I will sound like a heratic but really this is just a legitimate question. ;) ;)


It's a reasonable question too. Suppose it depends on what Ipswich have behind the scenes in terms of resrve teams etc and what sort of injury he was carrying.

In Koumas' case, it was 8 months without doing anything, which is going to take much longer to recover from. I'm pretty sure we've used him much more than we had hoped to by this stage which isn't ideal.

Failing that, Roy Keane has been touching him up and he's had double sessions with Darren O'Dea - remeber this - http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol ... -Bhoy.html

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:38 pm

let us get back to full strength, and then we will beat anyone,,,,,,,,,,,,, but i will say. if we dont go up this year dj has to go

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:41 pm

ninianblue wrote:let us get back to full strength, and then we will beat anyone,,,,,,,,,,,,, but i will say. if we dont go up this year dj has to go


But over a Season, you hardly ever get full strength and DJ has to learn to deal with this.

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:16 pm

The Douce wrote:we are 3rd in the table and people calling jonesys head? i think dave jones would have a completely different team if we had QPR money or even the money to sign a player not on loan


yeah but we're only one loss away from 13th now. 13TH!!!!

We've squandered the good start, basically.

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:18 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
ninianblue wrote:let us get back to full strength, and then we will beat anyone,,,,,,,,,,,,, but i will say. if we dont go up this year dj has to go


But over a Season, you hardly ever get full strength and DJ has to learn to deal with this.


Annis your right over a season we will get injuries but it is the fact we have had injuries to 5 players who just happen to be the best 5 players we have got !

And DJ did cope without those players against Hull when we didn't have any of them.

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:20 pm

damnedyank wrote:
The Douce wrote:we are 3rd in the table and people calling jonesys head? i think dave jones would have a completely different team if we had QPR money or even the money to sign a player not on loan


yeah but we're only one loss away from 13th now. 13TH!!!!

We've squandered the good start, basically.


Or a draw from second which is the automatic position, is your glass always half empty :?:

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:43 pm

no other championship team would cope losing 5 players out of first team, come to think of it neither would 95% of premiership teams

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:52 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:no other championship team would cope losing 5 players out of first team, come to think of it neither would 95% of premiership teams


Yes Baz, I agree, BUT ITS THE WAY WE GIVE IN WHEN TEAMS SCORE AGAINST US Over the last 5yrs or so.

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:56 pm

Today was painful like Tuesday night. I was not expecting much from these teams due to the injuries. However I wont accept poor performances like those 2 games. We can blame the players and let DJ off the hook. Not me. He brought them in and he picks the team. If we fail to go up its all going to be down to DJs management.

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:57 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Today was painful like Tuesday night. I was not expecting much from these teams due to the injuries. However I wont accept poor performances like those 2 games. We can blame the players and let DJ off the hook. Not me. He brought them in and he picks the team. If we fail to go up its all going to be down to DJs management.


Sadly I am Totally in agreement with you Ian.

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:09 pm

i like the guy :angel13: :P

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:31 pm

trac79 wrote:No team would cope with the 5 injuries we've had they are quality players so every team would struggle!! how would qpr cope without mackie he's scoring all their goals!!
I'm backing dave jones 100%



Me too :ayatollah: :old:

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:23 pm

Give the bloke a bloody break!!! Okay two losses on the run is a bind but top players out (which DJ brought in) any side would struggle.

Whats got my goat is the feeling that people are sitting there sharpening knives for DJ to fail. I'm sorry that is not supporting the team.

And Jones failing over 6 years? You are joking surely? With two previous clowns running the club into the ground what he's acheived is remarkable.

Perhaps i'm being nieve but people in the game rate him extremely highly, i personally think we'd not attract a better manager.

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:42 pm

What gets me he wont go for broke.
2 down .OK I understand why he took J off,but why not slip Darcy into centre back and throw gabor or Huds up front.
Put some pressure on there centre backs.

Re: " I AM REALLY SORRY TO SAY IT and HATE HAVING TO SAY IT "

Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:15 pm

Best manager in the Championship = loyal to us and we should be loyal to him. would anyone else do any better with the resources available? No.