‘ Malky Mackay ‘

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Spot On .

Agree

Malky, after a decent start, got carried away with defending the indefensible. He nurtured bias (without fact) from the media and then 'played' supporters in the quagmire that evolved, too!

I recall the away game at Liverpool as a sound example of how side-tracked we became whilst there was actually a game going on and Malky 'milked' it on and off the pitch (TV)

As head of the organisation, I believe Vincent Tan has to accept the larger portion of 'blame' for us not having a 'plan' to move forward in the years since but I do believe he was the direct blame for the first relegation; that was down to a mix of events and distractions that started when Malky and his mate transgressed and the owner (ultimately a huge mistake) tried to usher him out quietly but found (ultimately) futile resistance before employing OGS on the recommendation of the politician

I'm not anti-Malky. He was tops in my book and I wish he'd been able to finish the job; but he was the author of his downfall and simply has to take his portion of the blame for the end result of 'that' season

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Just don’t see that he’s a good manager. I’m grateful for what he did but had Dave Jones (as an example) got given the money Malky did I think he would have taken us up and bought players who were premier league ready, built a style of football that would have been premier league ready and turned that money spent into a lot more with the players he would have got in had we needed or wanted to sell them.

Instead we got a one note squad with one style of football that was easily found out at premier league level. We were heading one direction. Tan getting involved should have brought the players closer to Malky and wanting to play for him and that may have helped us over perform. The 3-0 loss to Southampton was insipid. Simply weren’t good enough.

If he any good he would have done it at other clubs. He hasn’t. They will say Tan hounded him but his record before us wasn’t amazing. Watford flew after he left.

You are right about him being a good fit. He pumped his fists. That covers a lot of deficiencies in some people’s eyes.

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Spot On .

Agree

Malky, after a decent start, got carried away with defending the indefensible. He nurtured bias (without fact) from the media and then 'played' supporters in the quagmire that evolved, too!

I recall the away game at Liverpool as a sound example of how side-tracked we became whilst there was actually a game going on and Malky 'milked' it on and off the pitch (TV)

As head of the organisation, I believe Vincent Tan has to accept the larger portion of 'blame' for us not having a 'plan' to move forward in the years since but I do believe he was the direct blame for the first relegation; that was down to a mix of events and distractions that started when Malky and his mate transgressed and the owner (ultimately a huge mistake) tried to usher him out quietly but found (ultimately) futile resistance before employing OGS on the recommendation of the politician

I'm not anti-Malky. He was tops in my book and I wish he'd been able to finish the job; but he was the author of his downfall and simply has to take his portion of the blame for the end result of 'that' season

Good post.

No one mentions the money he spent and quality he spent it on.

My main point is that it’s said that we were premier league ready when Tan took us over (when it’s Tan criticism time and there is a refusal to give him credit for our promotion). It so why did Malky not take us up straight away?

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Just don’t see that he’s a good manager. I’m grateful for what he did but had Dave Jones (as an example) got given the money Malky did I think he would have taken us up and bought players who were premier league ready, built a style of football that would have been premier league ready and turned that money spent into a lot more with the players he would have got in had we needed or wanted to sell them.

Instead we got a one note squad with one style of football that was easily found out at premier league level. We were heading one direction. Tan getting involved should have brought the players closer to Malky and wanting to play for him and that may have helped us over perform. The 3-0 loss to Southampton was insipid. Simply weren’t good enough.

If he any good he would have done it at other clubs. He hasn’t. They will say Tan hounded him but his record before us wasn’t amazing. Watford flew after he left.

You are right about him being a good fit. He pumped his fists. That covers a lot of deficiencies in some people’s eyes.

As I said before your dislike of Malkie is obvious, harping on about Dave Moans, got found out on more than 1 occasion, Preston,Ipswitch, Blackpool to name a few!

Harping on about money he spent, wasnt a fortune, others spent more trying many times Forest, Derby, took Leeds some time and after spending loads since going up are onle just above the relegation zone.

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Spot On .

Mate, thats exactly what happened, a controlling boss and a good manager never work.
just loved the time Malky served us a manager and how he left was worse than dreadful.
Have we been as successful since Malky left?
Malky second season had money, achieved what he was asked, but having a controler over you who had no idea what football was about, it could only end up with Malky having to leave.
I saw a poll and Malky was by our fans one of our best ever managers, they cant all be wrong

Was reading what Bellamy had to say, that for me sums it all up how awful it is to work under the present owner and they have no respect for their staff, Bellamy treated dreadfully.

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Just don’t see that he’s a good manager. I’m grateful for what he did but had Dave Jones (as an example) got given the money Malky did I think he would have taken us up and bought players who were premier league ready, built a style of football that would have been premier league ready and turned that money spent into a lot more with the players he would have got in had we needed or wanted to sell them.

Instead we got a one note squad with one style of football that was easily found out at premier league level. We were heading one direction. Tan getting involved should have brought the players closer to Malky and wanting to play for him and that may have helped us over perform. The 3-0 loss to Southampton was insipid. Simply weren’t good enough.

If he any good he would have done it at other clubs. He hasn’t. They will say Tan hounded him but his record before us wasn’t amazing. Watford flew after he left.

You are right about him being a good fit. He pumped his fists. That covers a lot of deficiencies in some people’s eyes.

As I said before your dislike of Malkie is obvious, harping on about Dave Moans, got found out on more than 1 occasion, Preston,Ipswitch, Blackpool to name a few!

Harping on about money he spent, wasnt a fortune, others spent more trying many times Forest, Derby, took Leeds some time and after spending loads since going up are onle just above the relegation zone.

I don’t dislike Malky. I can’t be clearer on that.

The messages he sent anyone could have sent to friends on a personal phone. Nothing to that.

I just don’t think Malky was that good.

Malky spent an absolute fortune we had the highest expenditure vs income in the championship the summer we went red. Then the fifth highest in the premier league the year we went up. Granted some of that was Ole but still.

While other clubs spent a lot. That was before the financial crash of 2008 and football clubs not in the premier league were being far more sensible.

We should have been better considering the money we spent. That’s why Tan hounded Malky. That’s why many fans thought Malky wasn’t up to it.

Dave Jones would have spent that money far better.

Three best DJ signings Peter Whittingham, Roger Johnson and Jay Bothroyd were over a tenth of the price of Cornelius and a fifth of what was paid for Brayford and Theophile Catherine.

I rest my case.

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Just don’t see that he’s a good manager. I’m grateful for what he did but had Dave Jones (as an example) got given the money Malky did I think he would have taken us up and bought players who were premier league ready, built a style of football that would have been premier league ready and turned that money spent into a lot more with the players he would have got in had we needed or wanted to sell them.

Instead we got a one note squad with one style of football that was easily found out at premier league level. We were heading one direction. Tan getting involved should have brought the players closer to Malky and wanting to play for him and that may have helped us over perform. The 3-0 loss to Southampton was insipid. Simply weren’t good enough.

If he any good he would have done it at other clubs. He hasn’t. They will say Tan hounded him but his record before us wasn’t amazing. Watford flew after he left.

You are right about him being a good fit. He pumped his fists. That covers a lot of deficiencies in some people’s eyes.

As I said before your dislike of Malkie is obvious, harping on about Dave Moans, got found out on more than 1 occasion, Preston,Ipswitch, Blackpool to name a few!

Harping on about money he spent, wasnt a fortune, others spent more trying many times Forest, Derby, took Leeds some time and after spending loads since going up are onle just above the relegation zone.

I don’t dislike Malky. I can’t be clearer on that.

The messages he sent anyone could have sent to friends on a personal phone. Nothing to that.

I just don’t think Malky was that good.

Malky spent an absolute fortune we had the highest expenditure vs income in the championship the summer we went red. Then the fifth highest in the premier league the year we went up. Granted some of that was Ole but still.

While other clubs spent a lot. That was before the financial crash of 2008 and football clubs not in the premier league were being far more sensible.

We should have been better considering the money we spent. That’s why Tan hounded Malky. That’s why many fans thought Malky wasn’t up to it.

Dave Jones would have spent that money far better.

Three best DJ signings Peter Whittingham, Roger Johnson and Jay Bothroyd were over a tenth of the price of Cornelius and a fifth of what was paid for Brayford and Theophile Catherine.

I rest my case.

Dave Jones the nearly man and terrible attitude and no respect for our fans.

Dave Jones 6 years At Cardiff, played good football, players always out pissed , given some of the best names we could dream off, we paid £20,000 plus wages then to players and after 6 years Dave Jones, Won Nothing and No promotion.

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Just don’t see that he’s a good manager. I’m grateful for what he did but had Dave Jones (as an example) got given the money Malky did I think he would have taken us up and bought players who were premier league ready, built a style of football that would have been premier league ready and turned that money spent into a lot more with the players he would have got in had we needed or wanted to sell them.

Instead we got a one note squad with one style of football that was easily found out at premier league level. We were heading one direction. Tan getting involved should have brought the players closer to Malky and wanting to play for him and that may have helped us over perform. The 3-0 loss to Southampton was insipid. Simply weren’t good enough.

If he any good he would have done it at other clubs. He hasn’t. They will say Tan hounded him but his record before us wasn’t amazing. Watford flew after he left.

You are right about him being a good fit. He pumped his fists. That covers a lot of deficiencies in some people’s eyes.

As I said before your dislike of Malkie is obvious, harping on about Dave Moans, got found out on more than 1 occasion, Preston,Ipswitch, Blackpool to name a few!

Harping on about money he spent, wasnt a fortune, others spent more trying many times Forest, Derby, took Leeds some time and after spending loads since going up are onle just above the relegation zone.

I don’t dislike Malky. I can’t be clearer on that.

The messages he sent anyone could have sent to friends on a personal phone. Nothing to that.

I just don’t think Malky was that good.

Malky spent an absolute fortune we had the highest expenditure vs income in the championship the summer we went red. Then the fifth highest in the premier league the year we went up. Granted some of that was Ole but still.

While other clubs spent a lot. That was before the financial crash of 2008 and football clubs not in the premier league were being far more sensible.

We should have been better considering the money we spent. That’s why Tan hounded Malky. That’s why many fans thought Malky wasn’t up to it.

Dave Jones would have spent that money far better.

Three best DJ signings Peter Whittingham, Roger Johnson and Jay Bothroyd were over a tenth of the price of Cornelius and a fifth of what was paid for Brayford and Theophile Catherine.

I rest my case.

Dave Jones the nearly man and terrible attitude and no respect for our fans.

Dave Jones 6 years At Cardiff, played good football, players always out pissed , given some of the best names we could dream off, we paid £20,000 plus wages then to players and after 6 years Dave Jones, Won Nothing and No promotion.

Had to sell his best players constantly.

Signed players for bargain prices who he improved significantly.

Had us playing amazing football. Best I have seen at the club.

FA Cup Final.

Maybe he was wrong to trust professional footballers to actually be professionals. But that’s on them too.

Bakedalaska says we were ready for the premier league when Tan turned up. Must have been DJ then.

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Just don’t see that he’s a good manager. I’m grateful for what he did but had Dave Jones (as an example) got given the money Malky did I think he would have taken us up and bought players who were premier league ready, built a style of football that would have been premier league ready and turned that money spent into a lot more with the players he would have got in had we needed or wanted to sell them.

Instead we got a one note squad with one style of football that was easily found out at premier league level. We were heading one direction. Tan getting involved should have brought the players closer to Malky and wanting to play for him and that may have helped us over perform. The 3-0 loss to Southampton was insipid. Simply weren’t good enough.

If he any good he would have done it at other clubs. He hasn’t. They will say Tan hounded him but his record before us wasn’t amazing. Watford flew after he left.

You are right about him being a good fit. He pumped his fists. That covers a lot of deficiencies in some people’s eyes.

As I said before your dislike of Malkie is obvious, harping on about Dave Moans, got found out on more than 1 occasion, Preston,Ipswitch, Blackpool to name a few!

Harping on about money he spent, wasnt a fortune, others spent more trying many times Forest, Derby, took Leeds some time and after spending loads since going up are onle just above the relegation zone.

I don’t dislike Malky. I can’t be clearer on that.

The messages he sent anyone could have sent to friends on a personal phone. Nothing to that.

I just don’t think Malky was that good.

Malky spent an absolute fortune we had the highest expenditure vs income in the championship the summer we went red. Then the fifth highest in the premier league the year we went up. Granted some of that was Ole but still.

While other clubs spent a lot. That was before the financial crash of 2008 and football clubs not in the premier league were being far more sensible.

We should have been better considering the money we spent. That’s why Tan hounded Malky. That’s why many fans thought Malky wasn’t up to it.

Dave Jones would have spent that money far better.

Three best DJ signings Peter Whittingham, Roger Johnson and Jay Bothroyd were over a tenth of the price of Cornelius and a fifth of what was paid for Brayford and Theophile Catherine.

I rest my case.

Dave Jones the nearly man and terrible attitude and no respect for our fans.

Dave Jones 6 years At Cardiff, played good football, players always out pissed , given some of the best names we could dream off, we paid £20,000 plus wages then to players and after 6 years Dave Jones, Won Nothing and No promotion.

Had to sell his best players constantly.

Signed players for bargain prices who he improved significantly.

Had us playing amazing football. Best I have seen at the club.

FA Cup Final.

Maybe he was wrong to trust professional footballers to actually be professionals. But that’s on them too.

Bakedalaska says we were ready for the premier league when Tan turned up. Must have been DJ then.

Dave Jones had the biggest budget for wages in our histat the time and was allowed to sigh high wage players who stayed a few seasons Chopra / Bothroyd just 2 of many.
Remember I knew all the players well and their wages were massive.

WON NOTHING & THATS THE FACTS


DJ hardly ever even took training he was golfing.

Anyway you’ve diverted the topic once again

We had a poll on here and Malky won it by a mile.

DJ won nothing and that’s what counts.


I know players that came to Cardiff including my mate Warren and DJ tripled his wage he was getting at Luton.

DJ trusted players he never had any authority over them in the in the end.

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Just don’t see that he’s a good manager. I’m grateful for what he did but had Dave Jones (as an example) got given the money Malky did I think he would have taken us up and bought players who were premier league ready, built a style of football that would have been premier league ready and turned that money spent into a lot more with the players he would have got in had we needed or wanted to sell them.

Instead we got a one note squad with one style of football that was easily found out at premier league level. We were heading one direction. Tan getting involved should have brought the players closer to Malky and wanting to play for him and that may have helped us over perform. The 3-0 loss to Southampton was insipid. Simply weren’t good enough.

If he any good he would have done it at other clubs. He hasn’t. They will say Tan hounded him but his record before us wasn’t amazing. Watford flew after he left.

You are right about him being a good fit. He pumped his fists. That covers a lot of deficiencies in some people’s eyes.

As I said before your dislike of Malkie is obvious, harping on about Dave Moans, got found out on more than 1 occasion, Preston,Ipswitch, Blackpool to name a few!

Harping on about money he spent, wasnt a fortune, others spent more trying many times Forest, Derby, took Leeds some time and after spending loads since going up are onle just above the relegation zone.

I don’t dislike Malky. I can’t be clearer on that.

The messages he sent anyone could have sent to friends on a personal phone. Nothing to that.

I just don’t think Malky was that good.

Malky spent an absolute fortune we had the highest expenditure vs income in the championship the summer we went red. Then the fifth highest in the premier league the year we went up. Granted some of that was Ole but still.

While other clubs spent a lot. That was before the financial crash of 2008 and football clubs not in the premier league were being far more sensible.

We should have been better considering the money we spent. That’s why Tan hounded Malky. That’s why many fans thought Malky wasn’t up to it.

Dave Jones would have spent that money far better.

Three best DJ signings Peter Whittingham, Roger Johnson and Jay Bothroyd were over a tenth of the price of Cornelius and a fifth of what was paid for Brayford and Theophile Catherine.

I rest my case.

Dave Jones the nearly man and terrible attitude and no respect for our fans.

Dave Jones 6 years At Cardiff, played good football, players always out pissed , given some of the best names we could dream off, we paid £20,000 plus wages then to players and after 6 years Dave Jones, Won Nothing and No promotion.

Had to sell his best players constantly.

Signed players for bargain prices who he improved significantly.

Had us playing amazing football. Best I have seen at the club.

FA Cup Final.

Maybe he was wrong to trust professional footballers to actually be professionals. But that’s on them too.

Bakedalaska says we were ready for the premier league when Tan turned up. Must have been DJ then.

Dave Jones had the biggest budget for wages in our histat the time and was allowed to sigh high wage players who stayed a few seasons Chopra / Bothroyd just 2 of many.
Remember I knew all the players well and their wages were massive.

WON NOTHING & THATS THE FACTS


DJ hardly ever even took training he was golfing.

Anyway you’ve diverted the topic once again

We had a poll on here and Malky won it by a mile.

DJ won nothing and that’s what counts.


I know players that came to Cardiff including my mate Warren and DJ tripled his wage he was getting at Luton.

DJ trusted players he never had any authority over them in the in the end.

So DJ was in charge of contracts was he?

He won nothing but gave us success we didn’t have for a long time. Firmly established us as a top end championship team. Should have gone up and didn’t and thats a failing of DJ. But the sides he built were always done on negative balance. He spent far less than any manager since and built a really easy on the eye team who failed at that last hurdle. Had he had more money or even been allowed to keep most of his players things might have been different.

I haven’t diverted the topic I’ve introduced evidence into the topic to support my view. That’s called debating which apparently is encouraged.

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Just don’t see that he’s a good manager. I’m grateful for what he did but had Dave Jones (as an example) got given the money Malky did I think he would have taken us up and bought players who were premier league ready, built a style of football that would have been premier league ready and turned that money spent into a lot more with the players he would have got in had we needed or wanted to sell them.

Instead we got a one note squad with one style of football that was easily found out at premier league level. We were heading one direction. Tan getting involved should have brought the players closer to Malky and wanting to play for him and that may have helped us over perform. The 3-0 loss to Southampton was insipid. Simply weren’t good enough.

If he any good he would have done it at other clubs. He hasn’t. They will say Tan hounded him but his record before us wasn’t amazing. Watford flew after he left.

You are right about him being a good fit. He pumped his fists. That covers a lot of deficiencies in some people’s eyes.

As I said before your dislike of Malkie is obvious, harping on about Dave Moans, got found out on more than 1 occasion, Preston,Ipswitch, Blackpool to name a few!

Harping on about money he spent, wasnt a fortune, others spent more trying many times Forest, Derby, took Leeds some time and after spending loads since going up are onle just above the relegation zone.

I don’t dislike Malky. I can’t be clearer on that.

The messages he sent anyone could have sent to friends on a personal phone. Nothing to that.

I just don’t think Malky was that good.

Malky spent an absolute fortune we had the highest expenditure vs income in the championship the summer we went red. Then the fifth highest in the premier league the year we went up. Granted some of that was Ole but still.

While other clubs spent a lot. That was before the financial crash of 2008 and football clubs not in the premier league were being far more sensible.

We should have been better considering the money we spent. That’s why Tan hounded Malky. That’s why many fans thought Malky wasn’t up to it.

Dave Jones would have spent that money far better.

Three best DJ signings Peter Whittingham, Roger Johnson and Jay Bothroyd were over a tenth of the price of Cornelius and a fifth of what was paid for Brayford and Theophile Catherine.

I rest my case.

Dave Jones the nearly man and terrible attitude and no respect for our fans.

Dave Jones 6 years At Cardiff, played good football, players always out pissed , given some of the best names we could dream off, we paid £20,000 plus wages then to players and after 6 years Dave Jones, Won Nothing and No promotion.

Had to sell his best players constantly.

Signed players for bargain prices who he improved significantly.

Had us playing amazing football. Best I have seen at the club.

FA Cup Final.

Maybe he was wrong to trust professional footballers to actually be professionals. But that’s on them too.

Bakedalaska says we were ready for the premier league when Tan turned up. Must have been DJ then.

Dave Jones had the biggest budget for wages in our histat the time and was allowed to sigh high wage players who stayed a few seasons Chopra / Bothroyd just 2 of many.
Remember I knew all the players well and their wages were massive.

WON NOTHING & THATS THE FACTS


DJ hardly ever even took training he was golfing.

Anyway you’ve diverted the topic once again

We had a poll on here and Malky won it by a mile.

DJ won nothing and that’s what counts.


I know players that came to Cardiff including my mate Warren and DJ tripled his wage he was getting at Luton.

DJ trusted players he never had any authority over them in the in the end.

So DJ was in charge of contracts was he?

He won nothing but gave us success we didn’t have for a long time. Firmly established us as a top end championship team. Should have gone up and didn’t and thats a failing of DJ. But the sides he built were always done on negative balance. He spent far less than any manager since and built a really easy on the eye team who failed at that last hurdle. Had he had more money or even been allowed to keep most of his players things might have been different.

I haven’t diverted the topic I’ve introduced evidence into the topic to support my view. That’s called debating which apparently is encouraged.

Where did I say DJ was in charge of contracts?????
I said he was allowed to go for big names, quality players and was allowed to offer them big wages.

DJ WIN NOTHING IN 6 YEARS THATS A FACT.

Pointless talking to you as you hate Malky that much you can’t admit how successful he was even though the facts are their.


Guess what you changed the topic yet again once losing a debate

Your the champion at that

Malky fitted us ,good manager ,successful, fell out with his boss fatal

Just don’t see that he’s a good manager. I’m grateful for what he did but had Dave Jones (as an example) got given the money Malky did I think he would have taken us up and bought players who were premier league ready, built a style of football that would have been premier league ready and turned that money spent into a lot more with the players he would have got in had we needed or wanted to sell them.

Instead we got a one note squad with one style of football that was easily found out at premier league level. We were heading one direction. Tan getting involved should have brought the players closer to Malky and wanting to play for him and that may have helped us over perform. The 3-0 loss to Southampton was insipid. Simply weren’t good enough.

If he any good he would have done it at other clubs. He hasn’t. They will say Tan hounded him but his record before us wasn’t amazing. Watford flew after he left.

You are right about him being a good fit. He pumped his fists. That covers a lot of deficiencies in some people’s eyes.

As I said before your dislike of Malkie is obvious, harping on about Dave Moans, got found out on more than 1 occasion, Preston,Ipswitch, Blackpool to name a few!

Harping on about money he spent, wasnt a fortune, others spent more trying many times Forest, Derby, took Leeds some time and after spending loads since going up are onle just above the relegation zone.

I don’t dislike Malky. I can’t be clearer on that.

The messages he sent anyone could have sent to friends on a personal phone. Nothing to that.

I just don’t think Malky was that good.

Malky spent an absolute fortune we had the highest expenditure vs income in the championship the summer we went red. Then the fifth highest in the premier league the year we went up. Granted some of that was Ole but still.

While other clubs spent a lot. That was before the financial crash of 2008 and football clubs not in the premier league were being far more sensible.

We should have been better considering the money we spent. That’s why Tan hounded Malky. That’s why many fans thought Malky wasn’t up to it.

Dave Jones would have spent that money far better.

Three best DJ signings Peter Whittingham, Roger Johnson and Jay Bothroyd were over a tenth of the price of Cornelius and a fifth of what was paid for Brayford and Theophile Catherine.

I rest my case.

Dave Jones the nearly man and terrible attitude and no respect for our fans.

Dave Jones 6 years At Cardiff, played good football, players always out pissed , given some of the best names we could dream off, we paid £20,000 plus wages then to players and after 6 years Dave Jones, Won Nothing and No promotion.

Had to sell his best players constantly.

Signed players for bargain prices who he improved significantly.

Had us playing amazing football. Best I have seen at the club.

FA Cup Final.

Maybe he was wrong to trust professional footballers to actually be professionals. But that’s on them too.

Bakedalaska says we were ready for the premier league when Tan turned up. Must have been DJ then.

Dave Jones had the biggest budget for wages in our histat the time and was allowed to sigh high wage players who stayed a few seasons Chopra / Bothroyd just 2 of many.
Remember I knew all the players well and their wages were massive.

WON NOTHING & THATS THE FACTS


DJ hardly ever even took training he was golfing.

Anyway you’ve diverted the topic once again

We had a poll on here and Malky won it by a mile.

DJ won nothing and that’s what counts.


I know players that came to Cardiff including my mate Warren and DJ tripled his wage he was getting at Luton.

DJ trusted players he never had any authority over them in the in the end.

So DJ was in charge of contracts was he?

He won nothing but gave us success we didn’t have for a long time. Firmly established us as a top end championship team. Should have gone up and didn’t and thats a failing of DJ. But the sides he built were always done on negative balance. He spent far less than any manager since and built a really easy on the eye team who failed at that last hurdle. Had he had more money or even been allowed to keep most of his players things might have been different.

I haven’t diverted the topic I’ve introduced evidence into the topic to support my view. That’s called debating which apparently is encouraged.

Where did I say DJ was in charge of contracts?????
I said he was allowed to go for big names, quality players and was allowed to offer them big wages.

DJ WIN NOTHING IN 6 YEARS THATS A FACT.

Pointless talking to you as you hate Malky that much you can’t admit how successful he was even though the facts are their.


Guess what you changed the topic yet again once losing a debate

Your the champion at that

Hardly losing this debate. You literally said Warren Feeney came to Cardiff AND DJ TRIPLED HIS WAGES.

I don’t hate Malky. Not sure how many more times or ways I can say that. I don’t hate anyone.

Now you hate Tan, that is your prerogative. But it skews every debate you have when it is Tan or anything to do with that time. That’s fine. What I don’t think is fine is you making up what I think. I am a massive fan of Sam and don’t hate Malky yet you have said the opposite recently. Just because I am not a hater of Tan does not make me a Tan lover. There is something in between.

A straight question to you, Neil is this Malky fault as well???


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A straight question to you, Neil is this Malky fault as well???


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They say there’s no such thing as a stupid question.

Until that. Of course it’s not Malky’s fault.

I’ll ask you a straight question.

Whose fault is it?

When you say Tan, how can you blame Tan for our poor performances yet not give him credit when we do well?

A straight question to you, Neil is this Malky fault as well???


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They say there’s no such thing as a stupid question.

Until that. Of course it’s not Malky’s fault.

I’ll ask you a straight question.

Whose fault is it?

When you say Tan, how can you blame Tan for our poor performances yet not give him credit when we do well?

When Malky came forward and said we need to invest in January Tan rebuked him. For me that was the end of MM at CCS but Tan as the owner failed to bring someone in that would have kept us in the Premier. Tony Pulis would have been the perfect appointment but I'm not sure if Crystal Palace beats us to him because we held onto MM too long. For me the fault lies above and the buck stops with Tan.

A straight question to you, Neil is this Malky fault as well???


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They say there’s no such thing as a stupid question.

Until that. Of course it’s not Malky’s fault.

I’ll ask you a straight question.

Whose fault is it?

When you say Tan, how can you blame Tan for our poor performances yet not give him credit when we do well?

When Malky came forward and said we need to invest in January Tan rebuked him. For me that was the end of MM at CCS but Tan as the owner failed to bring someone in that would have kept us in the Premier. Tony Pulis would have been the perfect appointment but I'm not sure if Crystal Palace beats us to him because we held onto MM too long. For me the fault lies above and the buck stops with Tan.

Of course its Tan to blame, apart from his financial aid, just about everything else hes done has been awful as far as moving the club forward goes, but it all stems from the Malky fallout, since then its been putting out fires and a revolving door of managers, with Tan the puppet master pulling the strings!!

A straight question to you, Neil is this Malky fault as well???


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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=225369

They say there’s no such thing as a stupid question.

Until that. Of course it’s not Malky’s fault.

I’ll ask you a straight question.

Whose fault is it?




When you say Tan, how can you blame Tan for our poor performances yet not give him credit when we do well?

When Malky came forward and said we need to invest in January Tan rebuked him. For me that was the end of MM at CCS but Tan as the owner failed to bring someone in that would have kept us in the Premier. Tony Pulis would have been the perfect appointment but I'm not sure if Crystal Palace beats us to him because we held onto MM too long. For me the fault lies above and the buck stops with Tan.

Of course its Tan to blame, apart from his financial aid, just about everything else hes done has been awful as far as moving the club forward goes, but it all stems from the Malky fallout, since then its been putting out fires and a revolving door of managers, with Tan the puppet master pulling the strings!!

So true.

A straight question to you, Neil is this Malky fault as well???


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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=225369

They say there’s no such thing as a stupid question.

Until that. Of course it’s not Malky’s fault.

I’ll ask you a straight question.

Whose fault is it?

When you say Tan, how can you blame Tan for our poor performances yet not give him credit when we do well?

When Malky came forward and said we need to invest in January Tan rebuked him. For me that was the end of MM at CCS but Tan as the owner failed to bring someone in that would have kept us in the Premier. Tony Pulis would have been the perfect appointment but I'm not sure if Crystal Palace beats us to him because we held onto MM too long. For me the fault lies above and the buck stops with Tan.

Of course its Tan to blame, apart from his financial aid, just about everything else hes done has been awful as far as moving the club forward goes, but it all stems from the Malky fallout, since then its been putting out fires and a revolving door of managers, with Tan the puppet master pulling the strings!!

Apart from his financial aid? You mean the most important thing he or anyone has ever done for this club.

It really is like that What have the Romans done for us sketch.

Name on chairman/owner who has taken this club forward apart from Sam?

A straight question to you, Neil is this Malky fault as well???


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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=225369

They say there’s no such thing as a stupid question.

Until that. Of course it’s not Malky’s fault.

I’ll ask you a straight question.

Whose fault is it?

When you say Tan, how can you blame Tan for our poor performances yet not give him credit when we do well?

When Malky came forward and said we need to invest in January Tan rebuked him. For me that was the end of MM at CCS but Tan as the owner failed to bring someone in that would have kept us in the Premier. Tony Pulis would have been the perfect appointment but I'm not sure if Crystal Palace beats us to him because we held onto MM too long. For me the fault lies above and the buck stops with Tan.

Of course its Tan to blame, apart from his financial aid, just about everything else hes done has been awful as far as moving the club forward goes, but it all stems from the Malky fallout, since then its been putting out fires and a revolving door of managers, with Tan the puppet master pulling the strings!!

Apart from his financial aid? You mean the most important thing he or anyone has ever done for this club.

It really is like that What have the Romans done for us sketch.

Name on chairman/owner who has taken this club forward apart from Sam?

Rick Wright? Albeit short lived. Certainly improved the fan base.

A straight question to you, Neil is this Malky fault as well???


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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=225369

They say there’s no such thing as a stupid question.

Until that. Of course it’s not Malky’s fault.

I’ll ask you a straight question.

Whose fault is it?

When you say Tan, how can you blame Tan for our poor performances yet not give him credit when we do well?

When Malky came forward and said we need to invest in January Tan rebuked him. For me that was the end of MM at CCS but Tan as the owner failed to bring someone in that would have kept us in the Premier. Tony Pulis would have been the perfect appointment but I'm not sure if Crystal Palace beats us to him because we held onto MM too long. For me the fault lies above and the buck stops with Tan.

Of course its Tan to blame, apart from his financial aid, just about everything else hes done has been awful as far as moving the club forward goes, but it all stems from the Malky fallout, since then its been putting out fires and a revolving door of managers, with Tan the puppet master pulling the strings!!

Apart from his financial aid? You mean the most important thing he or anyone has ever done for this club.

It really is like that What have the Romans done for us sketch.

Name on chairman/owner who has taken this club forward apart from Sam?

Rick Wright? Albeit short lived. Certainly improved the fan base.

He did that but when he left probably worse off.

Have you got any opinion on some of the pish written above?

A straight question to you, Neil is this Malky fault as well???


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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=225369

They say there’s no such thing as a stupid question.

Until that. Of course it’s not Malky’s fault.

I’ll ask you a straight question.

Whose fault is it?

When you say Tan, how can you blame Tan for our poor performances yet not give him credit when we do well?

When Malky came forward and said we need to invest in January Tan rebuked him. For me that was the end of MM at CCS but Tan as the owner failed to bring someone in that would have kept us in the Premier. Tony Pulis would have been the perfect appointment but I'm not sure if Crystal Palace beats us to him because we held onto MM too long. For me the fault lies above and the buck stops with Tan.

Of course its Tan to blame, apart from his financial aid, just about everything else hes done has been awful as far as moving the club forward goes, but it all stems from the Malky fallout, since then its been putting out fires and a revolving door of managers, with Tan the puppet master pulling the strings!!

Apart from his financial aid? You mean the most important thing he or anyone has ever done for this club.

It really is like that What have the Romans done for us sketch.

Name on chairman/owner who has taken this club forward apart from Sam?

Rick Wright? Albeit short lived. Certainly improved the fan base.

He did that but when he left probably worse off.

Have you got any opinion on some of the pish written above?

I agree that -
Malky had to be a good manager as he got us promoted.
I do agree that he had money but so did Ole and he completely wasted it so imo MM spent the money he had wisely.
I’m thankful that we had the money to give him to do this and this was down to Tan who provided the funds.
If MM had been left alone to manage the club in the way that he had done, I’ve a feeling that we may have avoided relegation but it would have been close.
I enjoyed watching the likes of Chopra, Botjroyd etc under DJ and I agree that the football was often great to watch.
We did bottle a few of the big games though and if you listen to a recent podcast by McNaughtin & Steve Thompson it’s clear that DJ had no control of the squad ( on a training camp all players went on pi$$ minutes after being instructed by DJ that they shouldn’t. DJ couldn’t keep an eye on them as he went golfing).
They are my personal thoughts and opinions.
What ever anyone thinks of VT he’s put in a lot of ££ into our club. I’ve no idea what his return has been. I’m coming round to the idea that he’s run his time here and it’s time for a change at the top - certainly at middle management level (CEO / chairman). The ideal scenario would be someone like the late Leicester owner but for every one of them there’s one or two dodgy ones. I think that something needs to change if we’re to move in though as it’s clear that VT either can’t or won’t reinvest the necessary amounts to prosper at championship level.
All thought and opinions fellas. I’ve enjoyed reading you’re thoughts too - well done for doing it respectfully which is what it’s all about.

Malky fucked it for himself.

He did a briliant job but then didnt give a f**k about the Club or its traditions, spent a fair whack to get us up and then wasted most of the money he was given to keep us up. I'm surprised some fans hold him in such high regard. For me, hes the manager who accepted Red for his own agenda and then failed with it. Am I wrong? I dont ever remember him standing up for our Club, its colours or traditions.

Malky fucked it for himself.

He did a briliant job but then didnt give a f**k about the Club or its traditions, spent a fair whack to get us up and then wasted most of the money he was given to keep us up. I'm surprised some fans hold him in such high regard. For me, hes the manager who accepted Red for his own agenda and then failed with it. Am I wrong? I dont ever remember him standing up for our Club, its colours or traditions.

I agree in that he did well to get us up but relatively speaking no one was spending like we were. He also had a really strong spine to work with.

The rest of what you wrote was spot on.

Malky fucked it for himself.

He did a briliant job but then didnt give a f**k about the Club or its traditions, spent a fair whack to get us up and then wasted most of the money he was given to keep us up. I'm surprised some fans hold him in such high regard. For me, hes the manager who accepted Red for his own agenda and then failed with it. Am I wrong? I dont ever remember him standing up for our Club, its colours or traditions.

Malky did not stand up for our traditions but who did within the club?

For me the only people who did were the Bluebirds Unite group. All other supporters group like the Supporters Trust took it right up the £$%^. Then we had the infamous Red Brigade who caused division, fed off it but now are no longer supporting the club. Bad ties that will linger on like a bad smell.

Malky fucked it for himself.

He did a briliant job but then didnt give a f**k about the Club or its traditions, spent a fair whack to get us up and then wasted most of the money he was given to keep us up. I'm surprised some fans hold him in such high regard. For me, hes the manager who accepted Red for his own agenda and then failed with it. Am I wrong? I dont ever remember him standing up for our Club, its colours or traditions.

Malky did not stand up for our traditions but who did within the club?

For me the only people who did were the Bluebirds Unite group. All other supporters group like the Supporters Trust took it right up the £$%^. Then we had the infamous Red Brigade who caused division, fed off it but now are no longer supporting the club. Bad ties that will linger on like a bad smell.

Me, my mam, my dad, my brother, my Niece, my friends, how far do you want me to carry on? Malky, Bellamy and the red brigade are and always will be scum to me.

If it was up to me I wouldnt have Craig Bellamy within 100 yards of the club, I think hes a complete prick and Ill never forget him holding aloft a red fire and passion scarf and claiming this isnt the club he knows despite never being there. Absolute traitor of the highest order.

Hows that for starters.

Malky fucked it for himself.

He did a briliant job but then didnt give a f**k about the Club or its traditions, spent a fair whack to get us up and then wasted most of the money he was given to keep us up. I'm surprised some fans hold him in such high regard. For me, hes the manager who accepted Red for his own agenda and then failed with it. Am I wrong? I dont ever remember him standing up for our Club, its colours or traditions.

Malky did not stand up for our traditions but who did within the club?

For me the only people who did were the Bluebirds Unite group. All other supporters group like the Supporters Trust took it right up the £$%^. Then we had the infamous Red Brigade who caused division, fed off it but now are no longer supporting the club. Bad ties that will linger on like a bad smell.

Me, my mam, my dad, my brother, my Niece, my friends, how far do you want me to carry on? Malky, Bellamy and the red brigade are and always will be scum to me.

If it was up to me I wouldnt have Craig Bellamy within 100 yards of the club, I think hes a complete prick and Ill never forget him holding aloft a red fire and passion scarf and claiming this isnt the club he knows despite never being there. Absolute traitor of the highest order.

Hows that for starters.

That’s Bellamy. I’m a Newcastle fan, I’m a Liverpool fan, I’m a Cardiff fan. Always says what people want to hear. Was the same in school.

The only player who Bobby Robson disliked says it’s all

Malky fucked it for himself.

He did a briliant job but then didnt give a f**k about the Club or its traditions, spent a fair whack to get us up and then wasted most of the money he was given to keep us up. I'm surprised some fans hold him in such high regard. For me, hes the manager who accepted Red for his own agenda and then failed with it. Am I wrong? I dont ever remember him standing up for our Club, its colours or traditions.

Malky did not stand up for our traditions but who did within the club?

For me the only people who did were the Bluebirds Unite group. All other supporters group like the Supporters Trust took it right up the £$%^. Then we had the infamous Red Brigade who caused division, fed off it but now are no longer supporting the club. Bad ties that will linger on like a bad smell.

Me, my mam, my dad, my brother, my Niece, my friends, how far do you want me to carry on? Malky, Bellamy and the red brigade are and always will be scum to me.

If it was up to me I wouldnt have Craig Bellamy within 100 yards of the club, I think hes a complete prick and Ill never forget him holding aloft a red fire and passion scarf and claiming this isnt the club he knows despite never being there. Absolute traitor of the highest order.

Hows that for starters.

Let's move onto the Red Brigade.