‘ Drakeford overeaction to omnicom strain ‘

If we didn’t have this terrible Assembly run by incompetent and unqualified non entities all the UK would be subject to the same rules decided by the properly elected Parliament; which it should be. Power has gone to Drakeford and Sturgeon’s heads and they are behaving like dictators and should immediately decree that Wales & Scotland will fall in line with the UK.

The only thing everyone needs to look at is how full the hospitals are and how many staff are off at each hospital ,9 hour wait at the uhw a&e a week ago ,me and my wife had COVID a month ago both double jabbed and it gave us a right kicking ,ask yourself this question ,one of your family gets injured or is I'll non COVID related and you can't get any medical attention because the hospital is full with COVID patients what do you do .

Blame the good folk who vote cretin.. not even Obi-Wan can save us from this buffoon.

Blame the good folk who vote cretin.. not even Obi-Wan can save us from this buffoon.

Who's the alternative and what different action would you want them to take?

Rightly or wrongly, Mark Drakefords name can't seem to be mentioned on here without a derogatory adjective attached to it, but rarely is an alternative offered.

Blame the good folk who vote cretin.. not even Obi-Wan can save us from this buffoon.

Who's the alternative and what different action would you want them to take?

Rightly or wrongly, Mark Drakefords name can't seem to be mentioned on here without a derogatory adjective attached to it, but rarely is an alternative offered.

Because the alternative is no name. Sack the lot and the silly devolution experiment! Waste of money.

As the person starting this thread ...some interesting replies and certainly contradicting opinions.
The point of my post is that i think Drakeford has overeacted to the new strain..
If you look at the death rate for this new variant then its actually less than for the flu in a bad year...every year there are 20k plus deaths from the flu & significantly more in a bad year but we live with the flu with annual vaccines for the vulnerable and society carries on as normal....similarly we are going to have to live with covid in the same way now and for many years to come.

Blame the good folk who vote cretin.. not even Obi-Wan can save us from this buffoon.

Damn, and Leia said that Obi-Wan literally was our only hope.

Anyone got Batman's number? Maybe he could get rid of the Joker...

(I'll get me coat)

Blame the good folk who vote cretin.. not even Obi-Wan can save us from this buffoon.

Who's the alternative and what different action would you want them to take?

Rightly or wrongly, Mark Drakefords name can't seem to be mentioned on here without a derogatory adjective attached to it, but rarely is an alternative offered.

Always rightly. The alternative is oft mentioned, and it’s called a referendum. They have never had the mandate, and the WAG is a basket case Parliament damaging Wales. I wouldn’t expect any action at all from this lot. They’re not wanted.

Proportionately Wales had more ICU beds available in the last peak than England.[/quote]


More beds because wards were moved around to facilitate in most hospitals mind.. Still valid

As the person starting this thread ...some interesting replies and certainly contradicting opinions.
The point of my post is that i think Drakeford has overeacted to the new strain..
If you look at the death rate for this new variant then its actually less than for the flu in a bad year...every year there are 20k plus deaths from the flu & significantly more in a bad year but we live with the flu with annual vaccines for the vulnerable and society carries on as normal....similarly we are going to have to live with covid in the same way now and for many years to come.

It's a good point well made, I guess the issue is if they didn't take these measures preemptively who knows how many deaths may occur as a result of Omnicron. Yes all of the evidence is showing currently that 'only' 140odd people have died of Omnicron currently in the UK but who's to say that won't shoot up? Also my thinking is that perhaps this locking down is more to try and keep hospitals being overrun by the older population or dare I say unvaccinated or even vaccinated who do get hit hard by Covid/Omnicron. Currently we're not just battling one thing remember, Covid is still a thing, Flu as you say is still a thing and now Omnicron on top of that is still a thing. If life were to continue as normal how long before surgeries and elective procedures would need to stop again? Cancer treatments need to stop again etc etc.

It's a difficult juggling act and one I wouldnt want to try as you'll be damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I'm sure these decisions aren't being made as willy nilly as some people say and are based on a degree of science and evidence. As much as I dislike some of these rules I can't imagine MD sleeps well with all the hate being cast against him. At the end of all this I dare say he'll resign because the stresses must be enormous (not that I pity him for that because that comes with the job)

Told you all so, you don't comply with bullies, they will only go further.

If we had stood up against those awful vaccine passports they would have been loathe to impose these pointless restrictions against the cold variant.

Even though it got through in England, the huge Tory rebellion has clearly put BJ off doing any more for now.

Don't comply, resist

I bet he is regretting the old toll booths being removed on the Severn Bridges , he could have turned them into checkpoints to stop illegal workers ... no not sneaking into the country but sneaking out !!!!

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

Probably introduced these measures early to protect the 6 nations and any hospitality that is going free?

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

If Mark Drakeford is proved wrong by acting too early then the costs are more economic. If Boris Johnson is proved wrong for waiting then there's potentially more of a human cost at stake.

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

You make a great point there "If he can get it through Parliament" and of course you are talking about the Prime Minister and the Westminster Parliament.

Mr Drakeford and his looney left cronies are at this moment just dishing out dictates with NO scrutiny from the Senedd. Following a request by the Welsh Conservatives the Senedd has been recalled today to discuss these dictates raining out of Drakeford House, but unlike the UK Prime Minister NO vote will take place.

The UK Health Security Agency, who are monitoring this Omicron effect on the UK, are finding exactly the same as South Africa i.e. increased infection rates but mainly mild symptoms and fewer people being admitted to hospital. In fact in London over the weekend over 50% of people admitted to hospital were found to be omicron positive on admittance for other conditions. In ICU beds in London 9 out of 10 beds yesterday were occupied by unvaccinated.

I accept it's early days but the latest dictates from Mr Drakeford on the working from home, £60 fines and criminal offence, with NO scrutiny from the Senedd can hardly be called Democratic.

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

If Mark Drakeford is proved wrong by acting too early then the costs are more economic. If Boris Johnson is proved wrong for waiting then there's potentially more of a human cost at stake.

As you seem to be sticking up for dripford can you tell me the logic in not allowing fans to local sport?
I can go to my local club and watch live games on TV and watch the local team from inside the club with other fans
crowded by the window but cannot go the other side of the window to watch them outside in the fresh air!!
It has nothing to do with economy just he needs to be seen to do something different to Westminster.

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

You make a great point there "If he can get it through Parliament" and of course you are talking about the Prime Minister and the Westminster Parliament.

Mr Drakeford and his looney left cronies are at this moment just dishing out dictates with NO scrutiny from the Senedd. Following a request by the Welsh Conservatives the Senedd has been recalled today to discuss these dictates raining out of Drakeford House, but unlike the UK Prime Minister NO vote will take place.

The UK Health Security Agency, who are monitoring this Omicron effect on the UK, are finding exactly the same as South Africa i.e. increased infection rates but mainly mild symptoms and fewer people being admitted to hospital. In fact in London over the weekend over 50% of people admitted to hospital were found to be omicron positive on admittance for other conditions. In ICU beds in London 9 out of 10 beds yesterday were occupied by unvaccinated.

I accept it's early days but the latest dictates from Mr Drakeford on the working from home, £60 fines and criminal offence, with NO scrutiny from the Senedd can hardly be called Democratic.

I am no "Dripford" defender but on this I'm not sure he's done much wrong. His government are a majority government and everything has been voted through, still all within the rules of the Welsh Government. The Sennedd has been recalled so your point about "NO srutiny" is incorrect.

Boris hasn't been able to hold his party together, hence him having to delay until the stats are unarguable, which many people would say is too late.

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

If Mark Drakeford is proved wrong by acting too early then the costs are more economic. If Boris Johnson is proved wrong for waiting then there's potentially more of a human cost at stake.

As you seem to be sticking up for dripford can you tell me the logic in not allowing fans to local sport?
I can go to my local club and watch live games on TV and watch the local team from inside the club with other fans
crowded by the window but cannot go the other side of the window to watch them outside in the fresh air!!
It has nothing to do with economy just he needs to be seen to do something different to Westminster.

If it's table service only you won't be able to crowd by the window.(not saying it won't happen though).
I'm not trying to defend him, I'm trying to defend some of the logic behind his actions and decisions. Local sport is an odd one though I'll grant you that. He could have done better in saying that these specific restrictions will be looked at each week and be eased at the earliest opportunity. Instead he hasn't put a time limit on them.

Do as you’re told and stop moaning.

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

If Mark Drakeford is proved wrong by acting too early then the costs are more economic. If Boris Johnson is proved wrong for waiting then there's potentially more of a human cost at stake.

As you seem to be sticking up for dripford can you tell me the logic in not allowing fans to local sport?
I can go to my local club and watch live games on TV and watch the local team from inside the club with other fans
crowded by the window but cannot go the other side of the window to watch them outside in the fresh air!!
It has nothing to do with economy just he needs to be seen to do something different to Westminster.

If it's table service only you won't be able to crowd by the window.(not saying it won't happen though).
I'm not trying to defend him, I'm trying to defend some of the logic behind his actions and decisions. Local sport is an odd one though I'll grant you that. He could have done better in saying that these specific restrictions will be looked at each week and be eased at the earliest opportunity. Instead he hasn't put a time limit on them.

Difficult for clubs to work on a week to week basis, arranging ticketing and the like which maybe why the blanket ban for now.

With regards to limited crowds would that be of any financial benefit to anyone? Bills would still need paying, staff etc plus imagine 500 people all cwtched together (which let's face it would likely happen) and say 10 of them are +ve. Suddenly you have say 150 +ve, they go to the pub/home and you have another 2-3 people each infected and then you have over 1000. Say 40 of them become poorly enough to need medical attention. That's a whole ward occupied for the sake of 500 people watching a game when it could of been avoided with a 'potential' fire break type scenario which we have here. Fingers crossed it'll be perhaps 3-4 weeks and we can return to relative normal then.

It's a sacrifice and a nuisance but long term maybe what we need to get a bit of normality back again.

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

You make a great point there "If he can get it through Parliament" and of course you are talking about the Prime Minister and the Westminster Parliament.

Mr Drakeford and his looney left cronies are at this moment just dishing out dictates with NO scrutiny from the Senedd. Following a request by the Welsh Conservatives the Senedd has been recalled today to discuss these dictates raining out of Drakeford House, but unlike the UK Prime Minister NO vote will take place.

The UK Health Security Agency, who are monitoring this Omicron effect on the UK, are finding exactly the same as South Africa i.e. increased infection rates but mainly mild symptoms and fewer people being admitted to hospital. In fact in London over the weekend over 50% of people admitted to hospital were found to be omicron positive on admittance for other conditions. In ICU beds in London 9 out of 10 beds yesterday were occupied by unvaccinated.

I accept it's early days but the latest dictates from Mr Drakeford on the working from home, £60 fines and criminal offence, with NO scrutiny from the Senedd can hardly be called Democratic.

I am no "Dripford" defender but on this I'm not sure he's done much wrong. His government are a majority government and everything has been voted through, still all within the rules of the Welsh Government. The Sennedd has been recalled so your point about "NO srutiny" is incorrect.

Boris hasn't been able to hold his party together, hence him having to delay until the stats are unarguable, which many people would say is too late.

It's all about opinions that's fair enough but Drakeford doesn't have a majority in the Senedd hence the working agreement with Plaid. The Senedd has been recalled because Andrew RT Davies wrote to the Llwydd and requested it to discuss these new restrictions otherwise Drakeford would do just as he wants. In reality with the help of Plaid any vote is a formality, IF Plaid support them.

As you probably guess I think Drakeford is a charlatan and his statement about reviewing how "Omicron" spreads in outdoors, does that evidence actually exists?

Your right about one thing time will tell who has got this right but history indicates both will be wrong.

The only criticism I've got of Drakegord is the drip feeding of information.
In my view it's clear what will be required to get back into
stadiums in Wales.
That's three jabs on the covid passport..
I would advise fans to get boosterd.
It's only a little prick.
I had no side effects. I didn't wake up the following morning supporting the Jacks.

Dripford changes things again nightclubs not having boxing day now closed 6am boxing day instead they will all try to pile into pubs but then will be hit with booking tables etc rule of 6 etc

Numbers ARE low currently in hospital, the issue is they could and probably will raise as time goes on. Already wards are running on low staffing levels due to Omnicron apparently bypassing the jabs which means patient care could be jeopardised. WAST are expecting a huge increase in cases over the next 4-6 weeks but are expecting numbers to decrease just as fast due to the lesser symptoms.

Then occupation of beds with covid are not being seen at present and hopefully will not be , so we can go back to level 1
All figures show a downward trend


A fall of 158 occupied Covid beds in the last month, down 38%
A fall of 59 occupied beds in recovery of Covid , down 27% last month
A fall of 9 occupied beds suspected of Covid , down 36% last month

Completely excessive and draconian restrictions.

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

The restrictions aren't terrible, except the live sport, but it's the travel to and from games and the toilets and indoor concourse issues that's the problem, so that is a difficult area although England are still allowing them with much larger case numbers and a less vaccinated population.

My gripe with him is he keeps asking for more money so would obviously want to go a lot further and furlough business's if Boris would let him, I am strongly against any more lockdowns and furlough, it's time for guidance and allow people to make their own decisions. Thankfully Boris won't give him any so we can avoid that unless it becomes absolutely necessary.

It's working at the moment many pubs are quiet and generally most people are being fairly sensible, I think the symptoms will be mild as more than 90% of adults now have antibodies we have to learn to live with this, we also have the benefit of seeing what happens in London who are less vaccinated than Wales and are probably about three weeks ahead based on numbers.

Politicians throughout the pandemic have either been criticised for not acting soon enough, or waiting too long before making a decision.
They can't win.

Agreed. If Drakeford, by making these decisions, can remove the restrictions earlier and avoid huge pressure on the NHS then he will be proved right and despite our moans about football, clubs, etc., it would be hard to criticise. Although he will also have to deliver on the booster program too as that is the ultimate solution accepted by scientists and all UK leaders.

Similarly, if Boris is able to hold back the pressure on NHS by keeping things as they are for now then he will be proved right. In any event, I think Boris will be introducing similar restrictions to Wales after Christmas if he can get it through Parliament.

The one thing Boris can't now do is hide behind the "I listen to the science" argument.

Science is telling us to act now to avoid pain later the only mitigation against that, accepted by scientists in the main, is that scientists don't have to take into account the socio-economic factors into account when giving their advice. These are now clearly political decisions with a bit of advice from scientists behind them.

Personally I think we should learn from what happened after the Liverpool Champions League game and Cheltenham right at the start of the pandemic and act early. I may be proved wrong on that but it will be interesting to see which approach proves most successful in stalling the progress of this new variant.

You make a great point there "If he can get it through Parliament" and of course you are talking about the Prime Minister and the Westminster Parliament.

Mr Drakeford and his looney left cronies are at this moment just dishing out dictates with NO scrutiny from the Senedd. Following a request by the Welsh Conservatives the Senedd has been recalled today to discuss these dictates raining out of Drakeford House, but unlike the UK Prime Minister NO vote will take place.

The UK Health Security Agency, who are monitoring this Omicron effect on the UK, are finding exactly the same as South Africa i.e. increased infection rates but mainly mild symptoms and fewer people being admitted to hospital. In fact in London over the weekend over 50% of people admitted to hospital were found to be omicron positive on admittance for other conditions. In ICU beds in London 9 out of 10 beds yesterday were occupied by unvaccinated.

I accept it's early days but the latest dictates from Mr Drakeford on the working from home, £60 fines and criminal offence, with NO scrutiny from the Senedd can hardly be called Democratic.

I am no "Dripford" defender but on this I'm not sure he's done much wrong. His government are a majority government and everything has been voted through, still all within the rules of the Welsh Government. The Sennedd has been recalled so your point about "NO srutiny" is incorrect.

Boris hasn't been able to hold his party together, hence him having to delay until the stats are unarguable, which many people would say is too late.

The Majority of conservative MP's are against lockdowns, so are rightly letting him know their views, we can't lockdown and close business's and ruin economies without accurate data, modelling is just guesswork, so for now he has the right approach wait and see, and letting the public make their own decisions on how much risk they want to take!

Dripford has run the health service in wales so badly the worse ambulance service and waiting lists in the uk thats why we would be overun at the slightest problem so have to shut down straight away
But we give people who don' t want to work a one off payment for xmas from this labour goverment and spending on silly things like gender identity surveys etc and you cannot get an ambulance to arrive in an emergency in 3 hours or in the case of my neigbours son with a broken leg on a football pitch waited 6 hours
Get the basics right first.