Hull City take over Accepted

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

I don't think anyone says Sam doesn't have a lot of 'support' on here (like him or not) but you do have to appreciate why some (certainly not including me) wouldn't want him back...

I feel sure even Sam himself would admit he made mistakes but if ever there was an owner that unified his club's fan base and drew in both crowds and publicity, it would be Sam...!

They say there's no such thing as 'bad' publicity and Sam milked it to his own and the club's advantage

Have him back?

Vincent Tan reportedly putting a 'block' on apart, why not?

With respect, Lee, the problem with posts from perennial anti-Tan-at-all-cost posters like yourself, is that there is no balancing of the good, bad and indifferent from both parties

Sam was no saint but (as I discussed this morning) but he was undoubtedly the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and almost pulled it off

Equally, Vincent Tan was (via TG) the man who was there for us after the event and no matter what his faults, you simply have to have an (even grudging) appreciation of that

For me, it would add substantial weight to your currently one-eyed views that sometimes make you out to be intransigent, which I know you are not

Chris I lived couple hundred yards from plough lane when sam was there and whilst he had his followers like here there was plenty who hated the circus surrounding him...... and subsequent events kind of epitomizes the view here? Fans Loved the success but left a sour taste in mouth over their ground ....we musnt forget he borrowed money for ccfc from Langston who is his own company...... and subsequently is suing club for that money..... do people actually want a person like that back at our club? Want tan gone but can anyone blame tan for not selling club to a person with dubious history?

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

I don't think anyone says Sam doesn't have a lot of 'support' on here (like him or not) but you do have to appreciate why some (certainly not including me) wouldn't want him back...

I feel sure even Sam himself would admit he made mistakes but if ever there was an owner that unified his club's fan base and drew in both crowds and publicity, it would be Sam...!

They say there's no such thing as 'bad' publicity and Sam milked it to his own and the club's advantage

Have him back?

Vincent Tan reportedly putting a 'block' on apart, why not?

With respect, Lee, the problem with posts from perennial anti-Tan-at-all-cost posters like yourself, is that there is no balancing of the good, bad and indifferent from both parties

Sam was no saint but (as I discussed this morning) but he was undoubtedly the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and almost pulled it off

Equally, Vincent Tan was (via TG) the man who was there for us after the event and no matter what his faults, you simply have to have an (even grudging) appreciation of that

For me, it would add substantial weight to your currently one-eyed views that sometimes make you out to be intransigent, which I know you are not

Chris I lived couple hundred yards from plough lane when sam was there and whilst he had his followers like here there was plenty who hated the circus surrounding him...... and subsequent events kind of epitomizes the view here? Fans Loved the success but left a sour taste in mouth over their ground ....we musnt forget he borrowed money for ccfc from Langston who is his own company...... and subsequently is suing club for that money..... do people actually want a person like that back at our club? Want tan gone but can anyone blame tan for not selling club to a person with dubious history?

Allan,

You are so full of shit and NO Nothing.

You really don’t know what your on about .


Wimbledon NO fans but took them to top flight and kept them their.

As to us our real saviour and Tan virtually destroyed us .

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

I don't think anyone says Sam doesn't have a lot of 'support' on here (like him or not) but you do have to appreciate why some (certainly not including me) wouldn't want him back...

I feel sure even Sam himself would admit he made mistakes but if ever there was an owner that unified his club's fan base and drew in both crowds and publicity, it would be Sam...!

They say there's no such thing as 'bad' publicity and Sam milked it to his own and the club's advantage

Have him back?

Vincent Tan reportedly putting a 'block' on apart, why not?

With respect, Lee, the problem with posts from perennial anti-Tan-at-all-cost posters like yourself, is that there is no balancing of the good, bad and indifferent from both parties

Sam was no saint but (as I discussed this morning) but he was undoubtedly the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and almost pulled it off

Equally, Vincent Tan was (via TG) the man who was there for us after the event and no matter what his faults, you simply have to have an (even grudging) appreciation of that

For me, it would add substantial weight to your currently one-eyed views that sometimes make you out to be intransigent, which I know you are not

I accept I have sometimes one eyed views, and accept that I am anti Tan at all costs.

It's interesting, that we all wonder how someone can have a different viewpoint to our own when we feel so strongly about something. I 100% accept as much as I support one and loathe the other that there are those who think the opposite with equal tenacity as me. If it's good for me it's good for them, and that is fair for all.

I knew what I enjoyed once upon a time at the club, and I now feel so disheartened I'll lash out at those who I feel COULD change it but don't.

It will massively surprise you that for a number of years when Tan took over I was a big fan of his. He started to lose my support when, in my opinion, he didn't approach either Premiership year in a manner that was required. It suddenly became his project that he would lead, and he wouldn't let anyone else make any decisions. For a foreign Businessman with no knowledge of top flight football this frightened me.

There is TALK of meddling, nothing ever confirmed. If you really want to know I think Tan got TOO involved and tried to use the club as his toy. The Red seasons prove this. He had too much influence in the end over signings,possibly tactics too.

I mean even Dalman himself said a few days ago that Tan has the final say over tactics!!!!

By the way.

.
.
.I had to look up the word intransigent!

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

I don't think anyone says Sam doesn't have a lot of 'support' on here (like him or not) but you do have to appreciate why some (certainly not including me) wouldn't want him back...

I feel sure even Sam himself would admit he made mistakes but if ever there was an owner that unified his club's fan base and drew in both crowds and publicity, it would be Sam...!

They say there's no such thing as 'bad' publicity and Sam milked it to his own and the club's advantage

Have him back?

Vincent Tan reportedly putting a 'block' on apart, why not?

With respect, Lee, the problem with posts from perennial anti-Tan-at-all-cost posters like yourself, is that there is no balancing of the good, bad and indifferent from both parties

Sam was no saint but (as I discussed this morning) but he was undoubtedly the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and almost pulled it off

Equally, Vincent Tan was (via TG) the man who was there for us after the event and no matter what his faults, you simply have to have an (even grudging) appreciation of that

For me, it would add substantial weight to your currently one-eyed views that sometimes make you out to be intransigent, which I know you are not

Chris I lived couple hundred yards from plough lane when sam was there and whilst he had his followers like here there was plenty who hated the circus surrounding him...... and subsequent events kind of epitomizes the view here? Fans Loved the success but left a sour taste in mouth over their ground ....we musnt forget he borrowed money for ccfc from Langston who is his own company...... and subsequently is suing club for that money..... do people actually want a person like that back at our club? Want tan gone but can anyone blame tan for not selling club to a person with dubious history?

Allan, I appreciate all that and state 'Sam was no saint' and 'Sam would probably admit...'

My point is that no one is all good and/or all bad (Sam, Tan or anyone)

Lee is consistent but flawed in his approach and I refer to the Ryan Reynolds thread he created as evidence of the desperate lengths he would seemingly go to trash Vincent Tan 'at all costs'

It's easy to criticise Vincent Tan for all the mistakes and problems he has created but there simply has to be a balance between the polar ends of truth and making the crime(s) fit

I'm a Sam fan. As a long-standing supporter before his arrival, I was party to and accepting of his time at our club. In essence, like thousands of others, I was part of his 'Bluebird Revolution'

I accepted it, I embraced it, I was gutted when it ultimately fell apart. I met Sam on a number of occasions and found him to be very personable. He certainly knew how to say the right things and build a very good rapport

My issue here is simply to highlight a negative agenda that seemingly shows no boundaries in its determination to pant the blackest picture

The simple truth will usually suffice but (as with others on here on many subjects) making it up to suit the agenda is simply not on and I'm consistent in that assertion

It's a shame, as it takes away from the real debate

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

I don't think anyone says Sam doesn't have a lot of 'support' on here (like him or not) but you do have to appreciate why some (certainly not including me) wouldn't want him back...

I feel sure even Sam himself would admit he made mistakes but if ever there was an owner that unified his club's fan base and drew in both crowds and publicity, it would be Sam...!

They say there's no such thing as 'bad' publicity and Sam milked it to his own and the club's advantage

Have him back?

Vincent Tan reportedly putting a 'block' on apart, why not?

With respect, Lee, the problem with posts from perennial anti-Tan-at-all-cost posters like yourself, is that there is no balancing of the good, bad and indifferent from both parties

Sam was no saint but (as I discussed this morning) but he was undoubtedly the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and almost pulled it off

Equally, Vincent Tan was (via TG) the man who was there for us after the event and no matter what his faults, you simply have to have an (even grudging) appreciation of that

For me, it would add substantial weight to your currently one-eyed views that sometimes make you out to be intransigent, which I know you are not

Chris I lived couple hundred yards from plough lane when sam was there and whilst he had his followers like here there was plenty who hated the circus surrounding him...... and subsequent events kind of epitomizes the view here? Fans Loved the success but left a sour taste in mouth over their ground ....we musnt forget he borrowed money for ccfc from Langston who is his own company...... and subsequently is suing club for that money..... do people actually want a person like that back at our club? Want tan gone but can anyone blame tan for not selling club to a person with dubious history?

Allan, I appreciate all that and state 'Sam was no saint' and 'Sam would probably admit...'

My point is that no one is all good and/or all bad (Sam, Tan or anyone)

Lee is consistent but flawed in his approach and I refer to the Ryan Reynolds thread he created as evidence of the desperate lengths he would seemingly go to trash Vincent Tan 'at all costs'

It's easy to criticise Vincent Tan for all the mistakes and problems he has created but there simply has to be a balance between the polar ends of truth and making the crime(s) fit

I'm a Sam fan. As a long-standing supporter before his arrival, I was party to and accepting of his time at our club. In essence, like thousands of others, I was part of his 'Bluebird Revolution'

I accepted it, I embraced it, I was gutted when it ultimately fell apart. I met Sam on a number of occasions and found him to be very personable. He certainly knew how to say the right things and build a very good rapport

My issue here is simply to highlight a negative agenda that seemingly shows no boundaries in its determination to pant the blackest picture

The simple truth will usually suffice but (as with others on here on many subjects) making it up to suit the agenda is simply not on and I'm consistent in that assertion

It's a shame, as it takes away from the real debate

Chris not sure if it's been anything different in my time in here always been some who have a negative one sided view of everything bad about club or team..... myself always said I'm never bothered about politics of who owns club like you say good bad with any owner... yes sam did things at city to galvanise fans have never denied that but my view on his objectives are based in previous events nothing else... the yanks are good guys but the difference between us and Wrexham is 3 divisions and massive amounts of money

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

I don't think anyone says Sam doesn't have a lot of 'support' on here (like him or not) but you do have to appreciate why some (certainly not including me) wouldn't want him back...

I feel sure even Sam himself would admit he made mistakes but if ever there was an owner that unified his club's fan base and drew in both crowds and publicity, it would be Sam...!

They say there's no such thing as 'bad' publicity and Sam milked it to his own and the club's advantage

Have him back?

Vincent Tan reportedly putting a 'block' on apart, why not?

With respect, Lee, the problem with posts from perennial anti-Tan-at-all-cost posters like yourself, is that there is no balancing of the good, bad and indifferent from both parties

Sam was no saint but (as I discussed this morning) but he was undoubtedly the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and almost pulled it off

Equally, Vincent Tan was (via TG) the man who was there for us after the event and no matter what his faults, you simply have to have an (even grudging) appreciation of that

For me, it would add substantial weight to your currently one-eyed views that sometimes make you out to be intransigent, which I know you are not

I accept I have sometimes one eyed views, and accept that I am anti Tan at all costs.

It's interesting, that we all wonder how someone can have a different viewpoint to our own when we feel so strongly about something. I 100% accept as much as I support one and loathe the other that there are those who think the opposite with equal tenacity as me. If it's good for me it's good for them, and that is fair for all.

I knew what I enjoyed once upon a time at the club, and I now feel so disheartened I'll lash out at those who I feel COULD change it but don't.

It will massively surprise you that for a number of years when Tan took over I was a big fan of his. He started to lose my support when, in my opinion, he didn't approach either Premiership year in a manner that was required. It suddenly became his project that he would lead, and he wouldn't let anyone else make any decisions. For a foreign Businessman with no knowledge of top flight football this frightened me.

There is TALK of meddling, nothing ever confirmed. If you really want to know I think Tan got TOO involved and tried to use the club as his toy. The Red seasons prove this. He had too much influence in the end over signings,possibly tactics too.

I mean even Dalman himself said a few days ago that Tan has the final say over tactics!!!!

By the way.

.
.
.I had to look up the word intransigent!

I don't doubt you believe what you say; I just don't appreciate the depths you will go to to get your points across. As I said (and you allude to) even Tan can't be all bad. His 'mistakes' have simply been amplified by agendas like yours

Sam is a legend and without him we could well be bouncing between division 3 and division 2 or worse

He also did loads for our fans, including me that he honestly didn't need to and there was nothing in it for him

He made mistakes but who doesn't, we have more to thank Sam for than not thsts for sure.

Sam is a legend and without him we could well be bouncing between division 3 and division 2 or worse

He also did loads for our fans, including me that he honestly didn't need to and there was nothing in it for him

He made mistakes but who doesn't, we have more to thank Sam for than not thsts for sure.

So spot on Steve

I don’t think people like Allan were around before SAM’S days as if he was he would be honest and appreciate what Sam did for us.

We were worse than shite on the pitch.

Sam is a legend and without him we could well be bouncing between division 3 and division 2 or worse

He also did loads for our fans, including me that he honestly didn't need to and there was nothing in it for him

He made mistakes but who doesn't, we have more to thank Sam for than not thsts for sure.

100% spot on, mate

I'm pro-Sam; just not as anti-Tan as some and take every action on its merits in the belief everyone has their good points

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

I don't think anyone says Sam doesn't have a lot of 'support' on here (like him or not) but you do have to appreciate why some (certainly not including me) wouldn't want him back...

I feel sure even Sam himself would admit he made mistakes but if ever there was an owner that unified his club's fan base and drew in both crowds and publicity, it would be Sam...!

They say there's no such thing as 'bad' publicity and Sam milked it to his own and the club's advantage

Have him back?

Vincent Tan reportedly putting a 'block' on apart, why not?

With respect, Lee, the problem with posts from perennial anti-Tan-at-all-cost posters like yourself, is that there is no balancing of the good, bad and indifferent from both parties

Sam was no saint but (as I discussed this morning) but he was undoubtedly the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and almost pulled it off

Equally, Vincent Tan was (via TG) the man who was there for us after the event and no matter what his faults, you simply have to have an (even grudging) appreciation of that

For me, it would add substantial weight to your currently one-eyed views that sometimes make you out to be intransigent, which I know you are not

Chris I lived couple hundred yards from plough lane when sam was there and whilst he had his followers like here there was plenty who hated the circus surrounding him...... and subsequent events kind of epitomizes the view here? Fans Loved the success but left a sour taste in mouth over their ground ....we musnt forget he borrowed money for ccfc from Langston who is his own company...... and subsequently is suing club for that money..... do people actually want a person like that back at our club? Want tan gone but can anyone blame tan for not selling club to a person with dubious history?

Allan, I appreciate all that and state 'Sam was no saint' and 'Sam would probably admit...'

My point is that no one is all good and/or all bad (Sam, Tan or anyone)

Lee is consistent but flawed in his approach and I refer to the Ryan Reynolds thread he created as evidence of the desperate lengths he would seemingly go to trash Vincent Tan 'at all costs'

It's easy to criticise Vincent Tan for all the mistakes and problems he has created but there simply has to be a balance between the polar ends of truth and making the crime(s) fit

I'm a Sam fan. As a long-standing supporter before his arrival, I was party to and accepting of his time at our club. In essence, like thousands of others, I was part of his 'Bluebird Revolution'

I accepted it, I embraced it, I was gutted when it ultimately fell apart. I met Sam on a number of occasions and found him to be very personable. He certainly knew how to say the right things and build a very good rapport

My issue here is simply to highlight a negative agenda that seemingly shows no boundaries in its determination to pant the blackest picture

The simple truth will usually suffice but (as with others on here on many subjects) making it up to suit the agenda is simply not on and I'm consistent in that assertion

It's a shame, as it takes away from the real debate

Appreciate your honesty and truth Chris as a loyal fan

Allan loved Tan even during tearing our identity to pieces and our pride etc etc etc

Sam did none of this and took us on when we were noting and made us feel proud again

Sam made mistakes , he is a human being , but Sam only did good for our club and still loved us and if Tan was not so pig ignorant we could have Sam on board and be going places again with Our Souls believing again .

Our stadium would be bouncing again

But Allan will love Dictators and for me Allan is and I will say absolutely clueless and I never saw Allan before the Sam days so yes he is more than clueless, had no idea his bad the old days were.

Yep the 80s/90s were grim but we still had the bluebirds .tan took that away for 2 and a half years.i believe if the reds had stayed in the premier League .the bluebirds wouldn't have returned.

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

I don't think anyone says Sam doesn't have a lot of 'support' on here (like him or not) but you do have to appreciate why some (certainly not including me) wouldn't want him back...

I feel sure even Sam himself would admit he made mistakes but if ever there was an owner that unified his club's fan base and drew in both crowds and publicity, it would be Sam...!

They say there's no such thing as 'bad' publicity and Sam milked it to his own and the club's advantage

Have him back?

Vincent Tan reportedly putting a 'block' on apart, why not?

With respect, Lee, the problem with posts from perennial anti-Tan-at-all-cost posters like yourself, is that there is no balancing of the good, bad and indifferent from both parties

Sam was no saint but (as I discussed this morning) but he was undoubtedly the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and almost pulled it off

Equally, Vincent Tan was (via TG) the man who was there for us after the event and no matter what his faults, you simply have to have an (even grudging) appreciation of that

For me, it would add substantial weight to your currently one-eyed views that sometimes make you out to be intransigent, which I know you are not

Chris I lived couple hundred yards from plough lane when sam was there and whilst he had his followers like here there was plenty who hated the circus surrounding him...... and subsequent events kind of epitomizes the view here? Fans Loved the success but left a sour taste in mouth over their ground ....we musnt forget he borrowed money for ccfc from Langston who is his own company...... and subsequently is suing club for that money..... do people actually want a person like that back at our club? Want tan gone but can anyone blame tan for not selling club to a person with dubious history?

Allan, I appreciate all that and state 'Sam was no saint' and 'Sam would probably admit...'

My point is that no one is all good and/or all bad (Sam, Tan or anyone)

Lee is consistent but flawed in his approach and I refer to the Ryan Reynolds thread he created as evidence of the desperate lengths he would seemingly go to trash Vincent Tan 'at all costs'

It's easy to criticise Vincent Tan for all the mistakes and problems he has created but there simply has to be a balance between the polar ends of truth and making the crime(s) fit

I'm a Sam fan. As a long-standing supporter before his arrival, I was party to and accepting of his time at our club. In essence, like thousands of others, I was part of his 'Bluebird Revolution'

I accepted it, I embraced it, I was gutted when it ultimately fell apart. I met Sam on a number of occasions and found him to be very personable. He certainly knew how to say the right things and build a very good rapport

My issue here is simply to highlight a negative agenda that seemingly shows no boundaries in its determination to pant the blackest picture

The simple truth will usually suffice but (as with others on here on many subjects) making it up to suit the agenda is simply not on and I'm consistent in that assertion

It's a shame, as it takes away from the real debate

Appreciate your honesty and truth Chris as a loyal fan

Allan loved Tan even during tearing our identity to pieces and our pride etc etc etc

Sam did none of this and took us on when we were noting and made us feel proud again

Sam made mistakes , he is a human being , but Sam only did good for our club and still loved us and if Tan was not so pig ignorant we could have Sam on board and be going places again with Our Souls believing again .

Our stadium would be bouncing again

But Allan will love Dictators and for me Allan is and I will say absolutely clueless and I never saw Allan before the Sam days so yes he is more than clueless, had no idea his bad the old days were.

Annis, you know I'm pro-Sam from our many conversations and I am not a massive 'fan' of Tan; but I do believe he has done 'some' good. Equally he has wasted extraordinate amounts of money without real explanation

The repayment of some of his own money is a debate in itself and the question surrounding whether 'parachute' money has been used to 'drip feed' the monthly income rather than it being solely his own is one that is valid for reasons of honesty and integrity

All I ever want is for people to be truthful and fair rather than making it up as they go along

I cannot/will not comment on Allan, as (like others) I don't know him personally, so I only react to comments made on here, the same as I do with all others; not that some will appreciate that

I hope this all sorts itself out soon, as our beloved club needs to heal its wounds and move on...

A new manager with a fresh outlook will be a start, followed by a genuine attempt to sell the club to new owners, if suitable candidates can be found in the current climate

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

You still want a man who is suing ccfc here ? tan doesnt owe sam ccfc do .. nowt stranger than folk so they say..

Hmmmm..... do you not know me?

You really think Sam will come back via the Tan route...?

Pride, stubborness and his national culture alone will prevent that occurrence

Sad but true...

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

You still want a man who is suing ccfc here ? tan doesnt owe sam ccfc do .. nowt stranger than folk so they say..

Hmmmm..... do you not know me?

You really think Sam will come back via the Tan route...?

Pride, stubborness and his national culture alone will prevent that occurrence

Sad but true...

Chris ask same question he didn't answer would you want a man back that is suing the club? Forget its sam for moment would you want back Joe bloggs if he was suing ccfc......And your right about culture but think it's more personal than that ...

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

You still want a man who is suing ccfc here ? tan doesnt owe sam ccfc do .. nowt stranger than folk so they say..

Hmmmm..... do you not know me?

You really think Sam will come back via the Tan route...?

Pride, stubborness and his national culture alone will prevent that occurrence

Sad but true...

Chris ask same question he didn't answer would you want a man back that is suing the club? Forget its sam for moment would you want back Joe bloggs if he was suing ccfc......And your right about culture but think it's more personal than that ...

Yes as he is Suing due to Tan writing up a new agreement and personally signing it, sadly on behalf of our club.
Sealed by the High Courts.


If you had a signed agreement and money / something was owed to to you, answer straight Allan would you not pursue it?


I can tell you 100% I would and Tan would and 99.9% of the world would.



ALLAN NEVER ANSWERS MINE?? / JUST DOES HIS QUICK POSTS WITH NO FACTS / ALWAYS THE OPPOSITE / AND NEVER HONEST.



Chris, Allan never answers mine


So in future if he posts on my topics i will delete every time

This shows that there is a lot of support for Sam, something that a lot of posters don't want us to believe.

I hope Tan reads this board and see's who is popular and who is not. Who is enthusiastic even now about Cardiff City and who is not. Who knows how to run a football club and who doesn't. Who knows how to invest in its supporters and who doesn't.

If Tan loses his case against Sam, then I can see events that might, just might, lead to Sam's return.

You still want a man who is suing ccfc here ? tan doesnt owe sam ccfc do .. nowt stranger than folk so they say..

Hmmmm..... do you not know me?

You really think Sam will come back via the Tan route...?

Pride, stubborness and his national culture alone will prevent that occurrence

Sad but true...

Chris ask same question he didn't answer would you want a man back that is suing the club? Forget its sam for moment would you want back Joe bloggs if he was suing ccfc......And your right about culture but think it's more personal than that ...

Yes as he is Suing due to Tan writing up a new agreement and personally signing it, sadly on behalf of our club.
Sealed by the High Courts.


If you had a signed agreement and money / something was owed to to you, answer straight Allan would you not pursue it?


I can tell you 100% I would and Tan would and 99.9% of the world would.



ALLAN NEVER ANSWERS MINE?? / JUST DOES HIS QUICK POSTS WITH NO FACTS / ALWAYS THE OPPOSITE / AND NEVER HONEST.



Chris, Allan never answers mine


So in future if he posts on my topics i will delete every time

I get the same with certain 'snowflake' posters (not aimed at Allan ) who cannot answer back properly when questioned

Me, back off from challenging the b@@@@@ks they write...?

Yeah, whatever they want to believe...!

I can't mention any names, such as BigBearBlue1974 (there are others) with their 'bully' and 'troll' deflection tactics being the norm rather than them answering the genuine questions posed

Vincent tan a lot richer and better businessman than this turkish fella who has bought hull. Hopefully tan keeps to his word and sells to someone tidy and wealthy. Thats what mike ashley promised to do with newcastle and look what happened there, if we had something similar then that would be amazing

And turkish football club owners, are friggin bonkers!! No speaking out, or you gone!!but if carlsberg did takeover deals! You ate right, we could be lucky? I've said it a few times. I wouldn't want sam in total charge, but would be great if hom and tan could work together! Extra funds, and a mam who knows the game. Woll never happe I know, but for me that would take is to the next level.