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Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:26 pm

this make my blood boil, so many people bucking the system, ok fair enough there are people are there who are struggling to find work, but there is alot more out there who just dont want it or havent got any work ethicnwhat so ever, if they aint got a job within 6 months take the f*cking benefits off them, they would soon find a job wouldnt they!! :evil:

rant over!!

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:41 pm

Forever Blue wrote:It says in the Newspapers today 1.4 million people in the UK, Who are able to Work have Never had a job. Is it their Fault or the Last Govt (Labours 13 yrs) Fault ?

or the tory gov BEFORE THEM

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:52 pm

john52 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It says in the Newspapers today 1.4 million people in the UK, Who are able to Work have Never had a job. Is it their Fault or the Last Govt (Labours 13 yrs) Fault ?

or the tory gov BEFORE THEM


good question people will take the piss untill the government finally put their foot down & say enough is enough!!

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:08 pm

Karl wrote:I'm claiming.


Waiting to go in the RAF though.

I'm also looking for any old job for now.



Karl, the emphasis here is on you 'looking and waiting'. Not much you can do in the meantime....but good luck.

I knew a guy who did 4 days work (for Tesco's) in over 30 years and on the 5th day decided 'it wasn't for me' and has never worked properly before or since. Locally, he is known as Dr Doolittle (or Dr Doofuckall to some). Worse, he thinks it's funny :x

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:12 pm

The one thing that gets me about threads like this is we have people like PhatFrog saying 'he knows a family who are screwing the benefits system' and inciting everyone to hate them without hearing the other side of the story from this family.

It's a myth life on benefits is better than working because if it was everyone would give up their jobs and I don't know anyone who has lived a life on JSA who has bought a property. Also where I live I see hundreds of families on basic income support struggle every Christmas to find gifts for their children and they never go on holiday.

However, there are people who do defraud the system and I condemn everyone of them, but generalising that everyone who claims benefits is a fraudster is quite disgusting no matter how much individuals might think they 'know' about them.

As for the fraudsters who take what they are not entitled to, the answer is more resources to Benefit's Agencies Investigation Department. At present it is woefully under funded and relies heavily on people grassing through the benefit hotlines.

The trouble is with these ‘hotlines’ 95% of the information received comes from people like PhatFrog who think they know what is going on when in reality they haven’t got a f**king clue. Perversely this means that the real fraudsters slip through because the Investigators end up wasting most of their time chasing shadows.

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:14 pm

beckett wrote:they should be doing the things that need doing i.e. filling in pot holes in the road etc make themselves usefull as there living off the taxpayers money


Personally, as a taxpayer, all these potholes etc should be getting filled in.
But if its work that needs doing, then people deserve paying for it. That way
it becomes a job

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:31 pm

brewer918 wrote:this make my blood boil, so many people bucking the system, ok fair enough there are people are there who are struggling to find work, but there is alot more out there who just dont want it or havent got any work ethicnwhat so ever, if they aint got a job within 6 months take the f*cking benefits off them, they would soon find a job wouldnt they!! :evil:

rant over!!


If you have a good job then I can understand why you feel like that. However, many manuel or production jobs are mind blowing and some people might believe they can do better. Also there is a huge problem that it is simply not worth the bother taking some of the lower paid jobs because it amounts to a 90% tax rate as benefits are withdrawn.

That is not the fault of those who find themselves in the poverty trap and at the end of the day they do what is best for them and their families, just like you would if you were in their place.

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:02 pm

taffyapple wrote:
beckett wrote:they should be doing the things that need doing i.e. filling in pot holes in the road etc make themselves usefull as there living off the taxpayers money


Personally, as a taxpayer, all these potholes etc should be getting filled in.
But if its work that needs doing, then people deserve paying for it. That way
it becomes a job



they would be getting paid there benefits for doing two days work or so filling in pot holes

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:03 pm

beckett wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
beckett wrote:they should be doing the things that need doing i.e. filling in pot holes in the road etc make themselves usefull as there living off the taxpayers money


Personally, as a taxpayer, all these potholes etc should be getting filled in.
But if its work that needs doing, then people deserve paying for it. That way
it becomes a job



they would be getting paid there benefits for doing two days work or so filling in pot holes


Quite right mate, the potholes need filling, the people on benefits have got f**k all to do, get them to fill them in.

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:16 pm

Pricey wrote:
birchblue wrote:Who else on here are pi--ed off with going to work while a lot of people are home claiming benefits i believe they should still have to work to get there benefit any opinions.


I'm at home doing f**k all and not getting ANY benefits despite having worked for 43 years, and never claimed any benefits.I had 6 months JSA and now nothingI can't get a job so what makes you think that they can.I'd gladly work so please tell me where all these jobs are so that I can get one. :old:



Cardiff Bus are recruiting mate, I was made redundant twice in 12 months, applied for a bus drivers job and got it, been there 15 months now, overtime available as well if you want it, never driven a bus before I applied, all you need is a car licence, it has it's moments and you miss a number of City games, but if you want work there's your opportunity. I'm 57 by the way ;)

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:26 pm

Ben wrote:nuclear i dont think anyone would begrudge your wife the right to claim or any other british person who's worked and tried thier best, but fall to illness, thats what our country should be doing, looking after our own

but as for the post above yours, and the women who gets 750 towards a house should be shot, send her home in a box, send the lot back, if i needed help the goverment etc wouldn't even give me 7.50p yet im a british person who has worked and paid tax all his life

makes my blood boil, :twisted:


Very, very sad attitude :evil:

Not a good balanced arguement, just very blinkered to reality :roll:

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:30 pm

The Premier 1 wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

DONT GET ME STARTED

lock the gates throw out the forigners british jobs for british people


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


:oops: :oops: :oops: :roll:

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:49 pm

I say if they're on the dole for longer than 3 months then they do community work. The same goes for minor or non-violent sentenced criminals. There's so much aesthetic work that needs to be done, why not get these slackers out and do it. If they refuse to do it and do it well, no money. Performance based benefits... simple!

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:10 am

Keli wrote:
Ben wrote:nuclear i dont think anyone would begrudge your wife the right to claim or any other british person who's worked and tried thier best, but fall to illness, thats what our country should be doing, looking after our own

but as for the post above yours, and the women who gets 750 towards a house should be shot, send her home in a box, send the lot back, if i needed help the goverment etc wouldn't even give me 7.50p yet im a british person who has worked and paid tax all his life

makes my blood boil, :twisted:


Very, very sad attitude :evil:

Not a good balanced arguement, just very blinkered to reality :roll:

What because Ben mentioned the word BRITISH !! of coarse its a racist word isn't it :roll: :roll:

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:25 am

Nuclearblue wrote:
Keli wrote:
Ben wrote:nuclear i dont think anyone would begrudge your wife the right to claim or any other british person who's worked and tried thier best, but fall to illness, thats what our country should be doing, looking after our own

but as for the post above yours, and the women who gets 750 towards a house , if i needed should be shot, send her home in a box, send the lot backhelp the goverment etc wouldn't even give me 7.50p yet im a british person who has worked and paid tax all his life

makes my blood boil, :twisted:


Very, very sad attitude :evil:

Not a good balanced arguement, just very blinkered to reality :roll:

What because Ben mentioned the word BRITISH !! of coarse its a racist word isn't it :roll: :roll:


Let me think about this :?:

That is pathetic, and just for information because some people seem incapable of understanding this, but it is not only 'British' people that pay taxes in the UK.

This is not a well balanced arguement just the voice of ignorance...

:ayatollah:

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:25 pm

All i was saying is that people who are fit and able to work should do community work to earn there benefits.

Re: WORK FOR YOUR MONEY........

Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:37 pm

birchblue wrote:Who else on here are pi--ed off with going to work while a lot of people are home claiming benefits i believe they should still have to work to get there benefit any opinions.


The easy answer here is just don't go to work in the morning. There seems to be this mad belief at the moment that benefit life is great. Fact is if anyone wants to give up their job for a life on benefits then I can give you the numbers of a long list of agencies who can all get a long line of "scroungers" who would love to go to work for you.

I live in a place where there are lots of people unemployed, in fact most people. Not so long ago virtually every single person here had a job. You could probably name every person without a job on one hand.
Now though the coal comes from China, the steel comes from China, the cloths we wear comes from China, the talcum powder we rub on our balls comes from China.