It just does not add up?

We have been hit by the pandemic, but don't tell us we are in the same financial bracket as clubs who have been nowhere near the Premiership in recent years.

We should be one of a decent handful of clubs who SHOULD be able to spend a little more due to the Premier payments.

Gone on players and wages?? I think you'll find almost every club has bought players and paid wages and they've had nowhere near the money we have raked in over the last few years.

Exactly Lee

If only we had some form of way to find out where the money goes. Something like accounts that are kept.

We will find out then.

Just enjoy the fact we aren’t in court constantly for unpaid debts risking being put out of business.

Actually Neil

Under Tan, we’ve had more court cases for debts and bills then any previous owners , Tan has lost everyone of them costing us £millions and guess what?

We still have 3 more ones to come and very serious.

Even Dalman said a few months ago if we lose two of these that’s it.

High court by HMRC looking to wind us up?

If only we had some form of way to find out where the money goes. Something like accounts that are kept.

We will find out then.

Just enjoy the fact we aren’t in court constantly for unpaid debts risking being put out of business.

Actually Neil

Under Tan, we’ve had more court cases for debts and bills then any previous owners , Tan has lost everyone of them costing us £millions and guess what?

We still have 3 more ones to come and very serious.

Even Dalman said a few months ago if we lose two of these that’s it.

High court by HMRC looking to wind us up?

Take your pick we are doomed we cannot afford to pay anyone with the massive debts we have....

If only we had some form of way to find out where the money goes. Something like accounts that are kept.

We will find out then.

Just enjoy the fact we aren’t in court constantly for unpaid debts risking being put out of business.

Actually Neil

Under Tan, we’ve had more court cases for debts and bills then any previous owners , Tan has lost everyone of them costing us £millions and guess what?

We still have 3 more ones to come and very serious.

Even Dalman said a few months ago if we lose two of these that’s it.

High court by HMRC looking to wind us up?

But they never .


But Tan is costing us £millions extra with every court case and many more to come.

Who will be finally paying all this ?? ???

If only we had some form of way to find out where the money goes. Something like accounts that are kept.

We will find out then.

Just enjoy the fact we aren’t in court constantly for unpaid debts risking being put out of business.

Actually Neil

Under Tan, we’ve had more court cases for debts and bills then any previous owners , Tan has lost everyone of them costing us £millions and guess what?

We still have 3 more ones to come and very serious.

Even Dalman said a few months ago if we lose two of these that’s it.

High court by HMRC looking to wind us up?

But they never .


But Tan is costing us £millions extra with every court case and many more to come.

Who will be finally paying all this ?? ???

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 448330.stm

Just a question...

Does this suggested £3m per month come directly from the owner's pocket or is it actually the monthly figure the Parachute Payments give us, which is somewhat coincidentally £3m...?

I only ask, as it is unclear and the Parachute Payments surely go to the owner before being redistributed back to the club (or not)?

As I said, it's just a question but a valid one IMHO, as £6m per month seems an awful lot to run our club; notwithstanding £3m is, too!

Just a question...

Does this suggested £3m per month come directly from the owner's pocket or is it actually the monthly figure the Parachute Payments give us, which is somewhat coincidentally £3m...?

I only ask, as it is unclear and the Parachute Payments surely go to the owner before being redistributed back to the club (or not)?

As I said, it's just a question but a valid one IMHO, as £6m per month seems an awful lot to run our club; notwithstanding £3m is, too!

think it goes to the club as there could be multiple owners ?
i think its an awful lot too...... possible the parachute money comes in at the end of season and therefore its Tan covering it until its received..? just a guess but it does fit {identical amounts }

Just a question...

Does this suggested £3m per month come directly from the owner's pocket or is it actually the monthly figure the Parachute Payments give us, which is somewhat coincidentally £3m...?

I only ask, as it is unclear and the Parachute Payments surely go to the owner before being redistributed back to the club (or not)?

As I said, it's just a question but a valid one IMHO, as £6m per month seems an awful lot to run our club; notwithstanding £3m is, too!

think it goes to the club as there could be multiple owners ?
i think its an awful lot too...... possible the parachute money comes in at the end of season and therefore its Tan covering it until its received..? just a guess but it does fit {identical amounts }

The problem is Dalman keeps telling the media it’s Tans own money that goes in every month to
make everyone believe the club is losing it and Tan is funding our club.
They received £36mill last October.

Some of things said on here is right to ask. What have we done with nearly £500mill? ? ?

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FAO Neil / Maccydee

As a big supporter / defender of Tan, could you explain why after over 11 years of running our club are we not debt free as promised? But worse than that we are in more debt than before Tan arrived?

FAO Neil / Maccydee

As a big supporter / defender of Tan, could you explain why after over 11 years of running our club are we not debt free as promised? But worse than that we are in more debt than before Tan arrived?

I’m a supporter of my club.

Which Tan saved.

Completely agree with post.
Owners have had years to ensure we spend what we can afford. Dalman is a kin to a politician and what he says and what materialises are not the same thing.

One thing that is patently missing from our revenue is the sale of players. For every fee we pay out we must only receive on back in.

We are evidently paying very good wages as players don't want to leave.

FAO Neil / Maccydee

As a big supporter / defender of Tan, could you explain why after over 11 years of running our club are we not debt free as promised? But worse than that we are in more debt than before Tan arrived?

I’m a supporter of my club.

Which Tan saved.

And I support My club No matter what , turn up and matches no matter what result and renew my season ticket this coming season for the 50th consecutive season , But will fight for our true identity and also want to know where all the money has been going and all the false promises.

FAO Neil / Maccydee

As a big supporter / defender of Tan, could you explain why after over 11 years of running our club are we not debt free as promised? But worse than that we are in more debt than before Tan arrived?

I’m a supporter of my club.

Which Tan saved.

And I support My club No matter what , turn up and matches no matter what result and renew my season ticket this coming season for the 50th consecutive season , But will fight for our true identity and also want to know where all the money has been going and all the false promises.

I wonder if other clubs and their fans have the same issues as us?

Transparency and regular contact would go a long way towards improving relations.

I understand that it is a business yet the lack of two way dialogue only causes uncertainty.

Other clubs have released their retained lists etc.

It seems we always keep our cards close to our chests for fear of gazumping etc. Where player wheeler dealing is concerned.

Do other fans get more regular updates on matters around their club?

It always seems a bit cloak and dagger.

Just a question...

Does this suggested £3m per month come directly from the owner's pocket or is it actually the monthly figure the Parachute Payments give us, which is somewhat coincidentally £3m...?

I only ask, as it is unclear and the Parachute Payments surely go to the owner before being redistributed back to the club (or not)?

As I said, it's just a question but a valid one IMHO, as £6m per month seems an awful lot to run our club; notwithstanding £3m is, too!

think it goes to the club as there could be multiple owners ?
i think its an awful lot too...... possible the parachute money comes in at the end of season and therefore its Tan covering it until its received..? just a guess but it does fit {identical amounts }

The problem is Dalman keeps telling the media it’s Tans own money that goes in every month to
make everyone believe the club is losing it and Tan is funding our club.
They received £36mill last October.

Some of things said on here is right to ask. What have we done with nearly £500mill? ? ?

It's definitely an odd one and needs clarification, gents. Mehmet Cameron is surely 'spinning' figures to suit the needs of the man who pays his wages...?

I just find it oddly coincidental that the £3m per month mentioned equates to 1/12 of the £36m parachute payment

Skidemin, you may well be right on the 'end of season' payments and it would explain the owner having to pay that amount into the club every month

Either way, I just feel what is going out in one hand is coming back in the other, whick smacks of manipulation of the figures

Annis' figure of £500m in Premier League and Parachute Payments sounds about right and despite him (Tan) understandably wanting to scale back during these tough times, we should be in a reasonably good position; certainly in comparison to clubs who have not been in the Premier League

#VoteMehmet

Just a question...

Does this suggested £3m per month come directly from the owner's pocket or is it actually the monthly figure the Parachute Payments give us, which is somewhat coincidentally £3m...?

I only ask, as it is unclear and the Parachute Payments surely go to the owner before being redistributed back to the club (or not)?

As I said, it's just a question but a valid one IMHO, as £6m per month seems an awful lot to run our club; notwithstanding £3m is, too!

think it goes to the club as there could be multiple owners ?
i think its an awful lot too...... possible the parachute money comes in at the end of season and therefore its Tan covering it until its received..? just a guess but it does fit {identical amounts }

The problem is Dalman keeps telling the media it’s Tans own money that goes in every month to
make everyone believe the club is losing it and Tan is funding our club.
They received £36mill last October.

Some of things said on here is right to ask. What have we done with nearly £500mill? ? ?

It's definitely an odd one and needs clarification, gents. Mehmet Cameron is surely 'spinning' figures to suit the needs of the man who pays his wages...?

I just find it oddly coincidental that the £3m per month mentioned equates to 1/12 of the £36m parachute payment

Skidemin, you may well be right on the 'end of season' payments and it would explain the owner having to pay that amount into the club every month

Either way, I just feel what is going out in one hand is coming back in the other, whick smacks of manipulation of the figures

Annis' figure of £500m in Premier League and Parachute Payments sounds about right and despite him (Tan) understandably wanting to scale back during these tough times, we should be in a reasonably good position; certainly in comparison to clubs who have not been in the Premier League

#VoteMehmet

Chris, as you know, I am straight talking and honest with it, I am not a spin merchant like Mehmet Cameron

Just a question...

Does this suggested £3m per month come directly from the owner's pocket or is it actually the monthly figure the Parachute Payments give us, which is somewhat coincidentally £3m...?

I only ask, as it is unclear and the Parachute Payments surely go to the owner before being redistributed back to the club (or not)?

As I said, it's just a question but a valid one IMHO, as £6m per month seems an awful lot to run our club; notwithstanding £3m is, too!

think it goes to the club as there could be multiple owners ?
i think its an awful lot too...... possible the parachute money comes in at the end of season and therefore its Tan covering it until its received..? just a guess but it does fit {identical amounts }

The problem is Dalman keeps telling the media it’s Tans own money that goes in every month to
make everyone believe the club is losing it and Tan is funding our club.
They received £36mill last October.

Some of things said on here is right to ask. What have we done with nearly £500mill? ? ?

It's definitely an odd one and needs clarification, gents. Mehmet Cameron is surely 'spinning' figures to suit the needs of the man who pays his wages...?

I just find it oddly coincidental that the £3m per month mentioned equates to 1/12 of the £36m parachute payment

Skidemin, you may well be right on the 'end of season' payments and it would explain the owner having to pay that amount into the club every month

Either way, I just feel what is going out in one hand is coming back in the other, whick smacks of manipulation of the figures

Annis' figure of £500m in Premier League and Parachute Payments sounds about right and despite him (Tan) understandably wanting to scale back during these tough times, we should be in a reasonably good position; certainly in comparison to clubs who have not been in the Premier League

#VoteMehmet

Chris, as you know, I am straight talking and honest with it, I am not a spin merchant like Mehmet Cameron

My point exactly. Why does he feel the need to "spin" stories about the club?

Honest, straight talking will always go further in engendering trust and faith.

Just a question...

Does this suggested £3m per month come directly from the owner's pocket or is it actually the monthly figure the Parachute Payments give us, which is somewhat coincidentally £3m...?

I only ask, as it is unclear and the Parachute Payments surely go to the owner before being redistributed back to the club (or not)?

As I said, it's just a question but a valid one IMHO, as £6m per month seems an awful lot to run our club; notwithstanding £3m is, too!

think it goes to the club as there could be multiple owners ?
i think its an awful lot too...... possible the parachute money comes in at the end of season and therefore its Tan covering it until its received..? just a guess but it does fit {identical amounts }

The problem is Dalman keeps telling the media it’s Tans own money that goes in every month to
make everyone believe the club is losing it and Tan is funding our club.
They received £36mill last October.

Some of things said on here is right to ask. What have we done with nearly £500mill? ? ?

It's definitely an odd one and needs clarification, gents. Mehmet Cameron is surely 'spinning' figures to suit the needs of the man who pays his wages...?

I just find it oddly coincidental that the £3m per month mentioned equates to 1/12 of the £36m parachute payment

Skidemin, you may well be right on the 'end of season' payments and it would explain the owner having to pay that amount into the club every month

Either way, I just feel what is going out in one hand is coming back in the other, whick smacks of manipulation of the figures

Annis' figure of £500m in Premier League and Parachute Payments sounds about right and despite him (Tan) understandably wanting to scale back during these tough times, we should be in a reasonably good position; certainly in comparison to clubs who have not been in the Premier League

#VoteMehmet

Chris, as you know, I am straight talking and honest with it, I am not a spin merchant like Mehmet Cameron

You're a straight talker, Annis and nothing wrong with that. At least people know where they stand, then...

What puzzles me is people call dalman a liar in one breath to discredit him and club? then they believe him if he says something to suit their agenda ? Cake and eat it springs to mind......

What puzzles me is people call dalman a liar in one breath to discredit him and club? then they believe him if he says something to suit their agenda ? Cake and eat it springs to mind......

Allan,

Well I will say how i see him, he's Tony Blair / David Cameron and any MP wanting to please people.

I have met him 50 plus times and from day one have said this to him direct.

What puzzles me is people call dalman a liar in one breath to discredit him and club? then they believe him if he says something to suit their agenda ? Cake and eat it springs to mind......

And they lap up or misconstrue stuff from the Eggo to suit their agenda as well.

What puzzles me is people call dalman a liar in one breath to discredit him and club? then they believe him if he says something to suit their agenda ? Cake and eat it springs to mind......

if someone is prone to lie it really doesnt mean all the time and every word...

What puzzles me is people call dalman a liar in one breath to discredit him and club? then they believe him if he says something to suit their agenda ? Cake and eat it springs to mind......

And they lap up or misconstrue stuff from the Eggo to suit their agenda as well.

Your right there is a lot of bullshit in that paper the last few years that I totally agree with Neil

What puzzles me is people call dalman a liar in one breath to discredit him and club? then they believe him if he says something to suit their agenda ? Cake and eat it springs to mind......

if someone is prone to lie it really doesnt mean all the time and every word...

Spot on

What puzzles me is people call dalman a liar in one breath to discredit him and club? then they believe him if he says something to suit their agenda ? Cake and eat it springs to mind......

And they lap up or misconstrue stuff from the Eggo to suit their agenda as well.

Your right there is a lot of bullshit in that paper the last few years that I totally agree with Neil

It’s called treating us like mushrooms

Keeping us in the dark and feeding us bullshit

What puzzles me is people call dalman a liar in one breath to discredit him and club? then they believe him if he says something to suit their agenda ? Cake and eat it springs to mind......

And they lap up or misconstrue stuff from the Eggo to suit their agenda as well.

Your right there is a lot of bullshit in that paper the last few years that I totally agree with Neil

Have to say,I havent read the echo for god knows how long, shit rag imo. Never thought they did us any favours tbf, except when they sponsored the shirt.

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Have been reading what prem promotion this year is worth(inclusive of parachute payments, which decrease some if relegated in 1st season!) And this year, the estimate is around £160m,which if correct is still nowhere near the £200m quotes that have been on here for us(per promotion) how this £500m was arrived at, is anyones guess!!

Makes you wonder the motive behind some peoples "guessing " at such highly inflated figures.

Have these posters got confused maybe? Thinking its £160m + Parachute payments? Even though first promotion was worth around £85m(with parachute payments) it seems so far off to say 4 or 5 hundred million.