' Not good news about football crowds returning? '

I am afraid that anybody who thought that being injected with the 'vaccine'* would take us all back to where we were was living on cloud cuckoo land. Ever been had?
As we all should know the 'vaccine' does not stop you from catching 'coronavirus'(whatever happened to Covid19?), nor spreading the same. Possibly reduces the effects if you get it badly. You must still 'social distance' and wear masks (both of dubious effect) even after your injection(s) and other restrictions seem here to stay.
Don't bother booking Benidorm this year.
I predict you will be having annual injections of whatever the next liquid they come up with and other new innovations yet to come.
I've previously posted on the Social Credit system and smartphone id's which may be worth researching.

As to football? I thought the minutes of the meeting that Annis posted on here a few weeks back were very instructive as to the way things the authorities want to go.

Drakeford is, by and large, doing what he is told.

*'vaccine' = experimental genetic therapeutic. All for something that for most of us outside certain categories has something like a 99.9% survival rate.

We’ll be living with it like we live with the flu. What’s your prediction of the death rate come May? I say in the 20s - if that.
I’m off to Corfu in July mate. No worries at all.

Very difficult for even me to defend him here.

Strange things to say when local elections are looming. Could well be punished.

Think heared labour well ahead in polls for assembly so guess this is encouraging drakeford with his let others try things before i do so I can always be right attitude... whats certain is labour need to be ousted from WG and Cardiff city council been in so long they think they're untouchable and can do what they like as we've seen "EG" Sargent case M4 relief rd to name 2.

Welsh Labour won't lost control, I'm almost certain of that.

But they will lose a bit of support after these comments by Drakeford.

It's a very strange thing to say so close to an election.

I say that as a Labour man myself.

Him being strange is about right...... but seriously think he believes hes untouchable and will say whatever he wants because when you listen to interviews the people asked say hes doing great job! primarily because these people do not go outside house even for a fag so scared by what so called experts tell us so to them hes great leader....

This guy is a clown...an embarrassment spouting doom and gloom..a bit of power has gone to his head..who the hell does he think he is ..for god's sake vote him out in the next elaction

Drakeford is the ultimate Bellend and most of Welsh Labour are not far behind. Drakeford is pulling the usual trick and saying he will quit half way through the next assembly. Welsh Labour have done this before - a cheap trick. If you dont like the Labour Leader - dont worry they will be gone in a year or so etc.

It's up to you how you vote - but after 21 years of Labour down the Bay - for Gods sake it's time for a change. They are 21 years into a 4 year plan. Health and Education (the devolved powers are a dogs breakfast).
They spent over 115 MILLION on the m4 relief road - that was just on the concept of doing it. Then Drakeford decides not to bother and tells people to drive slower instead FFS. Then we have Cardiff Wales AIrport - The WAG decided to take it over, they loaned 42 million and last week - that was written off and they gave them another 45 million.

What does this shower of sh1t have to do in order to get voted out - it seems they take your vote as a given.Blame it all on Westminster and then get given another 4 years to carry on.

dont care who you vote for - but this idiot doesnt deserve anyones vote

They've been selling tickets for the 2 festivals mentioned.
That doesn't mean they will go ahead.
Chris Whitty has said there could be 30000 more deaths if caution isn't the watch word.
There's not one recent quote where Drakeford has said football stadiums won't reopen in 2021.
They opened the stadiums in England to early and then had to close them?That went well.
Vaccine passports and possibly the 20 minute covid test will get us back into the stadiums.

The man is a complete and utter bellend

Completely incompetent and way out of his depth

I'm sure the the folk in Wales would vote for him in thier droves even if he banned drinking and pubs , such is their hatred of the English type Tory.

The man is a complete and utter bellend

Completely incompetent and way out of his depth

Same background as his buddy Corbyn .

40% pay rise for Cummins.
12.5k for organic meals for Johnson
made by the chef of a deli owner who donated to the Tory party
200k to refurnish Johnson downing Street flat.
37 billion for track and trace that's never worked.
2.7 million on a Downing street. Press office.
Billions handed out in contracts witn no conpetive tendering.
The Tories are no clowns. There are fraudsters.

They've been selling tickets for the 2 festivals mentioned.
That doesn't mean they will go ahead.
Chris Whitty has said there could be 30000 more deaths if caution isn't the watch word.
There's not one recent quote where Drakeford has said football stadiums won't reopen in 2021.
They opened the stadiums in England to early and then had to close them?That went well.
Vaccine passports and possibly the 20 minute covid test will get us back into the stadiums.

Silly question how can anyone organise a 10min test for 10k fans or even 1k for that matter!! in time for a football match? Proof of Vaccine no problem but testing? Non starter but while drakeford may not specifically said football the inference is no mass gatherings allowed it was part of WG briefing.....so not only glory but concerts ect be affected if what's being said is even partly true.

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They've been selling tickets for the 2 festivals mentioned.
That doesn't mean they will go ahead.
Chris Whitty has said there could be 30000 more deaths if caution isn't the watch word.
There's not one recent quote where Drakeford has said football stadiums won't reopen in 2021.
They opened the stadiums in England to early and then had to close them?That went well.
Vaccine passports and possibly the 20 minute covid test will get us back into the stadiums.

Silly question how can anyone organise a 10min test for 10k fans or even 1k for that matter!! in time for a football match? Proof of Vaccine no problem but testing? Non starter but while drakeford may not specifically said football the inference is no mass gatherings will be 0allowed it was part of WG briefing.....so not only footy but concerts ect be affected if what's being said is even partly true.

Bill Al. My daughter works in a, care facility. She tests herself at home and uploads the result the day before
I daresay it costs a few bob.
It was an idea not a proposal.
For people who haven't been vaccinated by the start of next, season I don't know, what the answer is. What about the kids

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Bill Al. My daughter works in a, care facility. She tests herself at home and uploads the result the day before
I daresay it costs a few bob.
It was an idea not a proposal.
For people who haven't been vaccinated by the start of next, season I don't know, what the answer is. What about the kids

Sticky there is no answer other than proof of vaccination same with travel ect.... the logistics of doing this would be enormous for clubs with 10k+ st holders ? Best will in world separating 2k fans in 20k capacity
ground like been doing is not same as trying to do it with 10k fans! Are politicians brave enough to make such decisions not sure so could be xmas before see large crowds back in stadia or concerts ect

Bill Al. My daughter works in a, care facility. She tests herself at home and uploads the result the day before
I daresay it costs a few bob.
It was an idea not a proposal.
For people who haven't been vaccinated by the start of next, season I don't know, what the answer is. What about the kids

Very valid questions,some cannot have the vaccine,what about us?

Never thought anyone more cretinous than Dianne Abbott existed.. and hey presto, he appeared..

Totally agree, corbyn, abbott, drakeford all useless

Bill Al. My daughter works in a, care facility. She tests herself at home and uploads the result the day before
I daresay it costs a few bob.
It was an idea not a proposal.
For people who haven't been vaccinated by the start of next, season I don't know, what the answer is. What about the kids

Very valid questions,some cannot have the vaccine,what about us?

Like all public areas if you are exempt and have proof you can go anywhere that its practical obviously there are exemptions... I can't wear mask so vaccine will be same.... I wear a lanyard for practical purposes that says got hidden disability which should be recognised by all establishments. So shouldn't
be an issue at city so vaccine should be ok too

Sensible approach, just let in season ticket holders ? Need to monitor effectiveness of vaccines I guess.

But surely the pay at the gat regulars should be in the mix. Perhaps they will use the vaccine passport as well?

Sensible approach, just let in season ticket holders ? Need to monitor effectiveness of vaccines I guess.

But surely the pay at the gat regulars should be in the mix. Perhaps they will use the vaccine passport as well?

Problem you've got is st holders have got priority as they have paid in advance for a service ? Now at a lot clubs it wont be a problem as the allowed capacity is far greater than st holders..but in city's case that is not case as we've got something like 12k st holders so in reality probably no capacity to let casual walk up fans in unless we are given 15k allowance... but as these are extreme circumstances maybe that wont be case and will have lottery for seats?

Daily Mail today so it must be right
Vaccinated people are 30 per cent less likely to pass on Covid after their first dose and less than half as likely to after two doses, a study has suggested.

A study of 300,000 NHS staff in Scotland found it became significantly less likely that someone living with a health worker would test positive if the medic had been immunised.

Scientists are already sure that jabs will prevent severe illness and death but how well they stop the virus spreading is uncertain.

Where does that leave mass crowd gatherings like the Reading festival ?
Vaccinated people have high protection,however they still have the ability to transmit covid to the unvaccinated by up to 50% after two doses.

The sheep will vote labour come what may.The population in Wales in by and large stupid.Hitler based his political career on the notion that the masses are dim and he was right.Drakeford is just an expression of this; an inept feeble joke that is played out on camera.He is our First Minister, think about it, his strangualed vocals are an assault on our eardrums, in short an acute embarassment. But he is not to blame.Those who are asked which way they are voting are often asked which policies influenced your decision more often than not they are incapable of offering one such example. Quite frankly I believe we deserve this cretin because of what we are a nation of political simpletons. As for full stadiums perhaps never ??

Covid certificates coming our way.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 19541.html

Covid certificates coming our way.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 19541.html

Cheers / Good News


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Crowds coming back in will Dreary Drakefords decision, not voting for them again.


Ever since the start of the Assembly we have always had a Labour First Minister. People in Wales tend to vote Labour - as they think anyone else will be terrible.
Well we have had 21 years (25 years) if they get in again. In anyones book - that is not good .

Labour know full well they can do what they want, they can make error after error. Spend 115 million on M4 relief road reports - only for Drakeford to say scrtap the whole thing - we'll just make the traffic go slower instead (causing more pollution)
Cardiff Wales Airport - another disaster zone after the WAG took over the running of it - just been bailed out again for 45 million. The list is endless.

Then we have Drakeford and Gething. Drakeford cant even dress himself. The pair of them to to us like we are school children. It's painful and embarrassing to watch let alone listen to.

I cant vote for them any more. I will see who in my constituency has the most chance of beating Labour and will vote for them instead. 21 years into a 4 year plan - and still utterly clueless.

I've said a few times before,the valleys are one of the most deprived areas in the UK yet they keep voting labour , ask yourself if you are from the valleys in all the years what have they done for you ,you keep tipping the voting in there favour try voting for someone different ,you never know .