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Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:23 pm

As long as everyone feels safer, thats the main thing :clap:

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:37 pm

Sven wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Since the BBC has been infected by the far left, that once decent show is now worth missing.



It was good, it showed the anti-vaxers meeting in London, a right strange lot, just shouting things like Corona isn't real and we had flu when we were young and didn't lock down. The first character refused to wear a mask on the tube, wow what a rebel and just didn't want a vaccine because she didn't believe in covid and shouldn't be made to do things like have to wear a mask. She sounded very principled and adamant about her rights and what the government should be doing and was protesting for people not to have it either. At the end they did a recap Julia has already had the vaccine because she's a care worker and needed t for work :laughing6:

Have to be fair, I watched and all I saw was the usual 'anti-establishment' odd-balls that would frequent pretty much any event on any subject, so long as it gave them a platform for their (I'll be polite here) 'largely uninformed' views

Did the Anti-Vaxxers more harm than good (excuse the pun) and the girl on the train said nothing of sense and then worsened her stance by stating "I don't believe in Covid" followed by "I only now three people who have had it..." :shock:


I'm glad you feel safer after watching the show Sven, must be of great comfort knowing how stupid anti-vaxxers can be :thumbright: :roll: :)

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:06 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Sven wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Since the BBC has been infected by the far left, that once decent show is now worth missing.



It was good, it showed the anti-vaxers meeting in London, a right strange lot, just shouting things like Corona isn't real and we had flu when we were young and didn't lock down. The first character refused to wear a mask on the tube, wow what a rebel and just didn't want a vaccine because she didn't believe in covid and shouldn't be made to do things like have to wear a mask. She sounded very principled and adamant about her rights and what the government should be doing and was protesting for people not to have it either. At the end they did a recap Julia has already had the vaccine because she's a care worker and needed t for work :laughing6:

Have to be fair, I watched and all I saw was the usual 'anti-establishment' odd-balls that would frequent pretty much any event on any subject, so long as it gave them a platform for their (I'll be polite here) 'largely uninformed' views

Did the Anti-Vaxxers more harm than good (excuse the pun) and the girl on the train said nothing of sense and then worsened her stance by stating "I don't believe in Covid" followed by "I only now three people who have had it..." :shock:


I'm glad you feel safer after watching the show Sven, must be of great comfort knowing how stupid anti-vaxxers can be :thumbright: :roll: :)

Already had mine, so already feeling 'safer', ThomasC :thumbup:

Just not one to boast about it whilst others, including my family, await theirs and I 100% haven't booked any holidays like the Forum's (poor) version of Martin Lewis (Blue Lagoon) sought to do off the back of it ;) :roll:

Nice to see you posting again :ayatollah:

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:51 pm

Sven wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Sven wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Since the BBC has been infected by the far left, that once decent show is now worth missing.



It was good, it showed the anti-vaxers meeting in London, a right strange lot, just shouting things like Corona isn't real and we had flu when we were young and didn't lock down. The first character refused to wear a mask on the tube, wow what a rebel and just didn't want a vaccine because she didn't believe in covid and shouldn't be made to do things like have to wear a mask. She sounded very principled and adamant about her rights and what the government should be doing and was protesting for people not to have it either. At the end they did a recap Julia has already had the vaccine because she's a care worker and needed t for work :laughing6:

Have to be fair, I watched and all I saw was the usual 'anti-establishment' odd-balls that would frequent pretty much any event on any subject, so long as it gave them a platform for their (I'll be polite here) 'largely uninformed' views

Did the Anti-Vaxxers more harm than good (excuse the pun) and the girl on the train said nothing of sense and then worsened her stance by stating "I don't believe in Covid" followed by "I only now three people who have had it..." :shock:


I'm glad you feel safer after watching the show Sven, must be of great comfort knowing how stupid anti-vaxxers can be :thumbright: :roll: :)

Already had mine, so already feeling 'safer', ThomasC :thumbup:

Just not one to boast about it whilst others, including my family, await theirs and I 100% haven't booked any holidays like the Forum's (poor) version of Martin Lewis (Blue Lagoon) sought to do off the back of it ;) :roll:

Nice to see you posting again :ayatollah:


Me posting again. The 'benefits' ?? of lockdown for members of the forum lol :ayatollah:

Yeah it's a sensitive subject and I shouldn't get involved in it really. Just making the point panorama programme just a hatchet job on anti vaxxers. We need more balance in life in general i'll eave it there. Cheers for the wishes :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:58 pm

Ah! I heard people lost out listening to Martin Lewis, but didn't know what happened. Booking holidays was it :o

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:06 pm

ThomasC wrote:Ah! I heard people lost out listening to Martin Lewis, but didn't know what happened. Booking holidays was it :o

;) :thumbright: :lol: :lol: :clap:

Re: Panorama - ZERO integrity now

Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:39 pm

Sven wrote:
ReesWestonSuperMare wrote:Ever since the infamous Tommy TakeDown Panorama episode (which they never showed). Where Robinson / Laxley Lennon put an undercover journalist in with Panorama head John Sweeney. Robinson managed to show that Panorama lie, twist and manipulate evidence. Sweeney himself revealed himself to be somewhat racist and homophobic. He used Hope not Hate to go after witnesses and intimidate them etc. It ended with Sweeney getting sacked and the bbc never aired the show.

So for me - 100 % zero integrity in the work they have done or do in future. All their 'investigations' need to be called into question. Im sure tonights episode will be no different

You're (quote) "sure..."? :?

Hmmmm...Laxley-Lemmon? Now there's a name to connect with the word 'integrity...' :shock: :lol: :lol:


Have you seen the footage Sven ?

Re: Panorama - ZERO integrity now

Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:46 pm

Here you go - watch the whole thing and it shows what they did, how they did it etc.

Try and leave any preconceptions of all individuals involved on the side and just watch the undercover bits. Sweeney was at Panorama for a number of years , his parting shot was telling Robinson to take legal - as he was going to need it etc, as it turns out.... well just watch it. The beeb got caught out, the program never aired, Sweeney was sacked as were a few others I believe.

Re: Panorama - ZERO integrity now

Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:46 pm

Here you go - watch the whole thing and it shows what they did, how they did it etc.

Try and leave any preconceptions of all individuals involved on the side and just watch the undercover bits. Sweeney was at Panorama for a number of years , his parting shot was telling Robinson to take legal - as he was going to need it etc, as it turns out.... well just watch it. The beeb got caught out, the program never aired, Sweeney was sacked as were a few others I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFnGGhJMzRM

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:41 pm

They won't have have the vaccine but they will shove anything esle in their bodies.Mixed God knows where.
It's a strange old world.

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:48 pm

https://twitter.com/Leannejm/status/136 ... 49954?s=19

So many medical experts out there by the looks. Flat earthers I call them or lock ness monster enthusiasts.



But hey, its all bout opinions. Not always wise to believe everything we told I guess.

Just remember to bring your vaccine id proof when season starts. No vaccine card, no entry perhaps? Its coming!!!!!!!!
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Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:08 am

Taking aim at that silly poster, I worked in the NHS many years ago. Im pretty sure the 'transfer of the dead' was a thing back then.

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:09 am

Oh yes, cleaners to.. oh how I miss Kristina :lol: :laughing6:

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:13 am

Disingenuous to claim all anti-vaxxers do not beleive infectious diseases exist. Some might even agree with mask wearing in public, some wouldn't.

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:50 am

The link to not believing government COVID stats, to not believing in infectious disease, is very childish to group everyone together like that

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:10 pm

stickywicket wrote:They won't have have the vaccine but they will shove anything esle in their bodies.Mixed God knows where.
It's a strange old world.


Everyone as the right to chose to do whatever they want, but it looks like not having a vaccine may carry consequences, some employers are trying to put them into employment contracts, and it also looks light flight operators and certain entertainment venues like pubs may also need proof of vaccines for entry.

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:13 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Since the BBC has been infected by the far left, that once decent show is now worth missing.

Too true :thumbup:
I tend to watch anything apart from the BBC nowadays

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:16 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Bluebina wrote:Could be interesting tonight 10:45pm Wales - 19-35 England

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000scy8



What I still don't understand is why people who are scared to have the vaccine or can't due to medical reasons try to put others off when it will undoubtedly provide them with risk free protection?


Exactly this mate, I dont get it either. Vaccination is the only way we are getting out of this and uptake needs to be a certain % for it to be effective. If you dont want the vaccine, fine dont have it. But if you want some degree of normality back just shut the f**k up and let the rest of the population take responsibility for it. Honestly dont get these people who go out of their way to try and discourage others from having it.

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:08 pm

In still awaiting an answer for those of us who cannot have the jab for varying reasons?, oh just shove us with the anti vaxxers I guess!! Cant watch my club,due to disability of having serious allergy problems!! Ahh well.

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:38 pm

bluesince62 wrote:In still awaiting an answer for those of us who cannot have the jab for varying reasons?, oh just shove us with the anti vaxxers I guess!! Cant watch my club,due to disability of having serious allergy problems!! Ahh well.


They may be able to give you an exemption passport, that would be fair, the only problem is like Blue badge system, it's open to abuse people with no real reason to have one would bombard the doctors trying to make a case for it?

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:19 pm

bluesince62 wrote:In still awaiting an answer for those of us who cannot have the jab for varying reasons?, oh just shove us with the anti vaxxers I guess!! Cant watch my club,due to disability of having serious allergy problems!! Ahh well.


Businesses have prevented certain people with certain medical issues from accessing their services for decades. Certain airlines will not allow you to fly with health conditions, adrenaline based activities like paint balling, SCUBA diving, dirt biking, etc can all say if you suffer from heart issues or similar you can’t partake. Theme parks will deny people of certain heights and weight access to their rides. Numerous countries require certain vaccines to enter. Employers can reject applicants on health grounds too.

If, which is still a big if, Cardiff City say vaccines are a requirement to go to games it won’t be a permanent measure. Much like lockdowns and mask wearing the vaccine is another method to reduce transmissions and make out breaks die out much quicker so once an X number of people have been vaccinated or cases are at Y then the club would open up access to more people who couldn’t or didn’t get vaccinated.
Remember, this is a big IF.

Re: Panorama - Vaccinations the disinformation war - Tonight

Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:53 pm

Escott1927 wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Bluebina wrote:Could be interesting tonight 10:45pm Wales - 19-35 England

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000scy8



What I still don't understand is why people who are scared to have the vaccine or can't due to medical reasons try to put others off when it will undoubtedly provide them with risk free protection?


Exactly this mate, I dont get it either. Vaccination is the only way we are getting out of this and uptake needs to be a certain % for it to be effective. If you dont want the vaccine, fine dont have it. But if you want some degree of normality back just shut the f**k up and let the rest of the population take responsibility for it. Honestly dont get these people who go out of their way to try and discourage others from having it.

Back of the net with these comments, my son.....100% agree!