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Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:55 pm

f**k it..it's only a book.

I'd burn it sooner than i'd burn one off AA's book or a match day program :o

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:56 pm

Why the f**k can't i f*cking curse on the f*cking board anymore?

What a c**t!!

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:16 pm

Guys lets remember we are seeing this from our freeedom of speech country and our Western way of life .

These guys are fanatics and take religion seriously .

This will only help recruitment and hatred against westernm world especially as they will put their own spin on it !

best way is not to go down this road at all

although they murder christians etc we as a country should be up in arms with that .

remember religion is a general term that covers evrything , christians have relationship with one man jesus - Koran is book by man , bible is by men but breathed from God - Deep I know but best to avoid conflict

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:26 pm

NIBluebird wrote:This will only help recruitment and hatred against westernm world especially as they will put their own spin on it !

best way is not to go down this road at all


I agree to an extent, but do we have to keep quiet and meekly surrender to these fanatics?

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:40 pm

TREV wrote:basiclly they want to take over and impose thier crap on us, all these mosques etc are funnding from bin laden etc and other countries as they preach to build them where you can and on the 9/11 site is bad, but they see it as a victory if they do! they win!! and no-one will say anything as not to "upset anyone" and because we speak up or talk against it we are RACIST :roll:

if they dont like it fook off, its all the PC people who are causing the crap

Agree with you 100%

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:12 pm

Xcasual wrote:
TREV wrote:basiclly they want to take over and impose thier crap on us, all these mosques etc are funnding from bin laden etc and other countries as they preach to build them where you can and on the 9/11 site is bad, but they see it as a victory if they do! they win!! and no-one will say anything as not to "upset anyone" and because we speak up or talk against it we are RACIST :roll:

if they dont like it fook off, its all the PC people who are causing the crap

Agree with you 100%




agreed

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:45 pm

Seriously... religion... don't people have better things to do? :ayatollah:

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:23 pm

PhatFrog wrote:
Mr Moo Cow wrote:& BLOW UP THE TOWERS

:roll: Yes because every Muslim I know is a terrorist. :roll:



You know lots of terrorists ? Feck im glad i dont sit near you Lass :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:26 pm

They are his Korans and he can do what he likes with them. Pity he cant get more of them. That book is responsible for thousands and thousands of Murders with honour killings ,stoning and acts of gross Terrorism.

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:50 pm

Hofmeister wrote:so whats the answer? violence creates violence, hatred creates hatred...

that circle needs to be broken...

so that @rsehole burns the koran --> muslim extremists kill westerners

look at Israel/Palestine... the only chance this region has is that they finally stop on both sides of the fence, but instead they all retaliate each others actions... going nowhere...

then look at Northern Ireland (I'm not saying everything's perfect there...) but the IRA called a ceasefire and finally sat down to have talks with the British Government. Loyalists joined as well and the peace-process went ahead, still a long way to go but you cant compare Belfast or Derry to what it was like in the 70s, 80s or early 90s...

circle of violence and hatred needs to be broken... and burning the Koran makes the situation even worse as it will upset and encourage moderate muslims to become extremists...


There IS no cycle. One dickhead burning a book SHOULD NOT lead to tens of thousands of Muslims
all over the world complaining and threatening to kill people. We dont riot in the streets here when they
stone women to death in Iran. We dont like it, we are sickened by it, but its their culture.

What they are trying to do is dictate to us what WE see as right and wrong. Sadly, too many people
are falling for it.

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:18 pm

Islam is a good religion in essence and millions of Muslims, like our owners are decent and honorable people who really do believe that 'peace be upon you" is a major part of their way of life.Christian clerics are deliberately winding up and isolating the good Muslims, just like the muslim clerics are doing in the West, for political and self serving purposes. ALL 3 Islamic religions , in their mind , believe the Koran is their holy book and should not be abused in such a way. That is not to say that we do have problems with some of the Muslim world, which needs addressing politically and this Koran burning stunt,it is only perpetrating the problems that we in the West have.

Any way happy Eid for tomorrow (I think}

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:32 pm

MUSLIMS ARE SO PEACEFUL THEY FLY PLANES INTO BUILDINGS AND BUILD CAR BOMBS. :ayatollah:

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:34 pm

clemoza wrote:MUSLIMS ARE SO PEACEFUL THEY FLY PLANES INTO BUILDINGS AND BUILD CAR BOMBS. :ayatollah:

Yeah because that is all they do.

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:46 pm

the terrorists act out these attrocities because of their different interpretations on the koran,all muslims look at it in different ways,people say that this pastor in usa could endanger lives of people in the forces but this would not have happened if he never had all the media attention surrounding it,for all we know,this could be happening all the time in usa and who could blame them,it does not bother me if he burns the koran or not,at the end of the day its a book and not a building or plane with humans in it

Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:52 pm

The Voice of Reason wrote:Burning him seems a bit of an over-reaction. He chose to join Hull - get over it. :lol:


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Re: Burning the Koran

Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:03 pm

cityblue wrote:the terrorists act out these attrocities because of their different interpretations on the koran,all muslims look at it in different ways,people say that this pastor in usa could endanger lives of people in the forces but this would not have happened if he never had all the media attention surrounding it,for all we know,this could be happening all the time in usa and who could blame them,it does not bother me if he burns the koran or not,at the end of the day its a book and not a building or plane with humans in it



As a presumably Christian white European you make a humourous but valid point BUT unfortunately the crazy tw*ts that claim to represent the normally peaceful Muslim communities throughout the world will manage to twist this event for their own ends and the consequences could be catastrophic for many innocent people on both sides of the secular divide.

Rev Terry Jones is so wrong to do this on so many levels....the biggest (in my humble opinion) of which is the Christian value of live and let live.

I simply ask how does he like it if/when they do it to his bible or his flag?? Two wrongs don't make a right....but could create a bloody mess. And would we all be pontificating so much if it was us who were in these distant places fighting the faceless enemy bastards??!! Think about it....

Each to their own, people....so long as it interferes with nobody else!!

Wow!! Let's get back to the football....

Re: Burning the Koran

Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:31 am

rob wrote:
Xcasual wrote:
TREV wrote:basiclly they want to take over and impose thier crap on us, all these mosques etc are funnding from bin laden etc and other countries as they preach to build them where you can and on the 9/11 site is bad, but they see it as a victory if they do! they win!! and no-one will say anything as not to "upset anyone" and because we speak up or talk against it we are RACIST :roll:

if they dont like it fook off, its all the PC people who are causing the crap

Agree with you 100%




agreed



Ben/Trev or whatever you call yourself. Speaking out against Islamic extremism is not racist, but comments such as "shoot them all" is. So your opinion is void.

I know of 2 muslims. 1 British born. Both families own businesses. Both of them are practising muslims. Neither of them has been offended by the fact that I, a woman, drink work and drive. Both of them love Britain and live the British way and don't try to push their beliefs on anyone else. And as far as I'm aware neither of them harbour any hate for the western world.

Would you like to explain to me as to why they deserve to be shot just because they are Muslim?


Btw, Ben/Trevs comment about them all being shot is on the first page of this topic.

Re: Burning the Koran

Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:28 am

the london bombers , they were apprently respectable people, worked in comunities and no-one had a bad word to say about them, we saw on tv video's of them working at schools the lot

then they blow up half of london , they all hate us white folk, they'd rather us dead

Re: Burning the Koran

Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:48 am

TREV wrote:the london bombers , they were apprently respectable people, worked in comunities and no-one had a bad word to say about them, we saw on tv video's of them working at schools the lot

then they blow up half of london , they all hate us white folk, they'd rather us dead



I don't think I need to point out what is wrong with this quote. Its just a shame that there are too many gutless people on this MB who won't stand up to this sort of racism.

I'd like to leave this linger with you. When people got charged for the Chelsea game, people were harping on about innocent till proven guilty. Even those caught on film punching crap out of each other were claiming self defence, innocent until proven guilty. So what changed? How are all muslims terrorists? Or doesn't innocent till proven guilty count if you arnt white?

Hypocrites the lot of you. And guests reading this forum are pissing themselves laughing at your stupidity.
Especially yours Ben :lol:

Re: Burning the Koran

Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:32 am

Rather extreme comments by Ben/Trev there. To say all muslims hate the white guy, well hardly anyone is going to believe him there.

However I feel the likes of Ben get their ideas from what they see on the tv or read in the media. Anyone watch that film on ITV last night called United 93 about the 4th airliner involved in 9/11. Its this sort of media coverage that generates the Bens of this world. Unfortunately we are stuck with this as its what attracts people to read or watch.

My personal experience comes from what I have seen with my own eyes from my time living in a muslim country. I dont hold Bens beliefs but I can understand how they come about or should I say where they originate from. The church in our contry has very little influence on us. I mean do you see people praying before they eat there food? Yet you go to a place like Saudi and its common to see groups of people praying in the streets. The religious organisation has a strong grip on its people there.

So is that a bad thing some might ask specally thosewho want to defend them? Yes and no is the answer because it totally depends on the agenda. Some mosques preach peace while some preach jihad. Actually this goes on in our country, some churches preach the love of God while others preach hell and condemnation. The only difference is one country has a bigger following than the other and there are no prizes for guessing which one has the following.

I hold a radical view that will agrieve Ben and his enemies on this subject. I honestly believe, give or take a couple of generations, that these zealous fanatical muslim groups will die away. They will lose their strength because the younger muslim generations will get tried of the vengeance, hell and fire preachings. They will get tied of the fighting just like the Indians did in America, the IRA have done in Ireland and the old British public did of the Churches of 500 years ago. Unfortunately we will have to go through quite a few Valley of Deaths to get there.

Re: Burning the Koran

Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:31 pm

PhatFrog wrote:
TREV wrote:the london bombers , they were apprently respectable people, worked in comunities and no-one had a bad word to say about them, we saw on tv video's of them working at schools the lot

then they blow up half of london , they all hate us white folk, they'd rather us dead



I don't think I need to point out what is wrong with this quote. Its just a shame that there are too many gutless people on this MB who won't stand up to this sort of racism.

I'd like to leave this linger with you. When people got charged for the Chelsea game, people were harping on about innocent till proven guilty. Even those caught on film punching crap out of each other were claiming self defence, innocent until proven guilty. So what changed? How are all muslims terrorists? Or doesn't innocent till proven guilty count if you arnt white?

Hypocrites the lot of you. And guests reading this forum are pissing themselves laughing at your stupidity.
Especially yours Ben :lol:


Are you seriously putting forward the argument that the London bombers are innocent because they were never tried for their crimes and found guilty due to being blown to pieces by their own bombs?

Frankly your claim that we are all racists/hypocrites because we can't see this ‘injustice’ is bordering on the preposterous.

Re: Burning the Koran

Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:36 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
I hold a radical view that will agrieve Ben and his enemies on this subject. I honestly believe, give or take a couple of generations, that these zealous fanatical muslim groups will die away. They will lose their strength because the younger muslim generations will get tried of the vengeance, hell and fire preachings. They will get tied of the fighting just like the Indians did in America, the IRA have done in Ireland and the old British public did of the Churches of 500 years ago. Unfortunately we will have to go through quite a few Valley of Deaths to get there.


I very much agree with that view Baked, I think that in 100 to 200 years time Islam will be a dead religion along with all other religions.

Unfortunately I also agree that it will probably take a few blood wars before it happens and I certainly don't believe appeasing Islam will help in any way.

Re: Burning the Koran

Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:43 pm

Yeah why not, preferably with a muslim holding it!!!!!!

Re: Burning the Koran

Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:44 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
PhatFrog wrote:
TREV wrote:the london bombers , they were apprently respectable people, worked in comunities and no-one had a bad word to say about them, we saw on tv video's of them working at schools the lot

then they blow up half of london , they all hate us white folk, they'd rather us dead



I don't think I need to point out what is wrong with this quote. Its just a shame that there are too many gutless people on this MB who won't stand up to this sort of racism.

I'd like to leave this linger with you. When people got charged for the Chelsea game, people were harping on about innocent till proven guilty. Even those caught on film punching crap out of each other were claiming self defence, innocent until proven guilty. So what changed? How are all muslims terrorists? Or doesn't innocent till proven guilty count if you arnt white?

Hypocrites the lot of you. And guests reading this forum are pissing themselves laughing at your stupidity.
Especially yours Ben :lol:


Are you seriously putting forward the argument that the London bombers are innocent because they were never tried for their crimes and found guilty due to being blown to pieces by their own bombs?

Frankly your claim that we are all racists/hypocrites because we can't see this ‘injustice’ is bordering on the preposterous.


Tony, don't know where you got that from:? I was replying to bens statement that ALL muslims are terrorists. The ones I was calling racist were the posters who said things like, shoot them all and that muslims hate whites. No where did I say the london bombers were innocent. I'll have that apolopy when you're ready ....

Re: Burning the Koran

Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:28 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
I hold a radical view that will agrieve Ben and his enemies on this subject. I honestly believe, give or take a couple of generations, that these zealous fanatical muslim groups will die away. They will lose their strength because the younger muslim generations will get tried of the vengeance, hell and fire preachings. They will get tied of the fighting just like the Indians did in America, the IRA have done in Ireland and the old British public did of the Churches of 500 years ago. Unfortunately we will have to go through quite a few Valley of Deaths to get there.


I very much agree with that view Baked, I think that in 100 to 200 years time Islam will be a dead religion along with all other religions.

Unfortunately I also agree that it will probably take a few blood wars before it happens and I certainly don't believe appeasing Islam will help in any way.


I respect Baked's views but fear they are dangerously wrong.

Just the fact that this prat has all the Worlds media going nuts cos he threatened to burn
books is testament to the way muslims are manipulating the press and the media with their
'persecution' agenda.

In twenty years at the current rate there will be another 40-50 muslim MPs in parliament.By
which time I predict alcohol will be banned in the House Of Commons, no bacon butties, no
ham sandwiches. This is the heart of government. Moderate Islam is being overtaken all the
time by more 'Sharia led' sects.. funded by one of the Worlds richest countries - Saudi Arabia.

It causes riots speaking out against Islam, the World is up in arms. Christian leaders join in the
condemnation as well as presidents and Prime Ministers .

Were a Muslim loony to burn the Holy Bible nobody would bat an eyelid

Where's the parity?

The mad mullahs and their Saudi backers are BANKING on the West being too afraid to speak
out against anything Islamic. They already know that moderate muslims will keep their heads
buried in the sand. They are spending TRILLIONS of dollars on furthering the cause of Islam.

It wont go away