Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:19 pm
skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:brynleybridle wrote:Yes we should bid for Ojo and Wilson,and why the hell would we want to sell Moore,we want to improve not sell sell sell.![]()
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Little chance of signing Wilson permanently
little chance of signing either... last 3 signings were in expensive , lots of talk about pushing academy players and a new manager that spent less in 12 transfer windows combined than we normally do in one...its a change of plan / direction ...
I don’t think Liverpool would expect much for Ojo.
depends what you consider a lot.... Mick doesnt do numbers in millions... or at least hasnt for a very long time...
Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:00 am
Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:17 am
maccydee wrote:piledriver64 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:Maybe i shouldn't have mentioned Murphy as an example. I am with most of you in that sense with Josh. I think he has downed tools and sulked when he never got his move after we were relegated like Decova-Reid and clubs like ours are really powerless when this happens. Let's be honest if he leaves after four years he is a very rich young man and we probably have wasted 11 million-plus salary.
Back to Ojo. I haven't seen flashes of brilliance that you get with Wilson and occasionally with Josh. He has great close control and when Wilson beautifully put him through on Tuesday I was fairly confident he would despatch it as he is technically very good.
It's just what is his position. He reminds me of Jay Emmanuel Thomas & Ameobi, a great skill set but physically I don't see where he is best suited. I don't see him as a winger and if he is a 10 is he a top-end Championship 10 ? Perhaps he follows Blakey and ends up a striker.
I thought this was his last season with Liverpool but when i looked at transfermarket.com it said 2023, so Liverpool will want a decent fee and i doubt he is on a poor salary as a Liverpool U23 player.
I just don't see it, but i like raw speed on both flanks rather than silky skill (rather both).
School ground rules. When all the players line up against a wall who would you pick, Ojo or NML ?
Ojo has played 28 games for us, scored 7 goals and 5 assists. That's an excellent record at this level and whilst stats don't tell the whole story it's pretty indicative of his influence on the team. In addition his work rate is high and he has made plenty of defensive interventions which is why he is well worth his regular place in the team.
On the question of NML or Ojo, if NML was fit then I would accept he can have a massive impact. But if you look at the stats for the last three league seasons he played 87 games, scored just 13 goals and 10 assists which is way down on what Ojo is doing right now.
Add to that the fact that NML missed whole rafts of games in those seasons due to injury I would say that Ojo represents better value for money and, at the moment, is having more of a direct impact on the team than NML did so Ojo gets my vote.
What are Murphy’s stats as when on the pitch he scores and creates however that’s not enough for some.
Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:23 pm
Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:13 pm
maccydee wrote:skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:skidemin wrote:maccydee wrote:brynleybridle wrote:Yes we should bid for Ojo and Wilson,and why the hell would we want to sell Moore,we want to improve not sell sell sell.![]()
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Little chance of signing Wilson permanently
little chance of signing either... last 3 signings were in expensive , lots of talk about pushing academy players and a new manager that spent less in 12 transfer windows combined than we normally do in one...its a change of plan / direction ...
I don’t think Liverpool would expect much for Ojo.
depends what you consider a lot.... Mick doesnt do numbers in millions... or at least hasnt for a very long time...
Tan would though especially if there was potential sell on value.