Tan takeover

And if Tan decided to liquidate tomorrow we would be in freefall. As they say, "be careful what you wish for".

im sure all clubs if liquidated would go into freefall.... its a non argument just emotional blackmail

And if Tan decided to liquidate tomorrow we would be in freefall. As they say, "be careful what you wish for".

im sure all clubs if liquidated would go into freefall.... its a non argument just emotional blackmail

I agree about all clubs in free fall but we are talking about a chairman who is hated and tolerated in equal numbers. He could decide he's had enough and walk away so there is a real danger here.

Doubt that the owners of the top 6 clubs in leagues outside the premiership would readily walk away atm because they are possibly going places (promotion). We on the other hand would need substantial investment to make a challenge next season and would Tan want to do that?

Keep kicking a dog and it will eventually bite back. I think we owe a debt of gratitude to the man

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

And if Tan decided to liquidate tomorrow we would be in freefall. As they say, "be careful what you wish for".

im sure all clubs if liquidated would go into freefall.... its a non argument just emotional blackmail

I agree about all clubs in free fall but we are talking about a chairman who is hated and tolerated in equal numbers. He could decide he's had enough and walk away so there is a real danger here.

Doubt that the owners of the top 6 clubs in leagues outside the premiership would readily walk away atm because they are possibly going places (promotion). We on the other hand would need substantial investment to make a challenge next season and would Tan want to do that?

Keep kicking a dog and it will eventually bite back. I think we owe a debt of gratitude to the man

A bit dramatic that.

Tan would never liquidate us as it would do a lot of damage to his business reputation.

And if Tan decided to liquidate tomorrow we would be in freefall. As they say, "be careful what you wish for".

im sure all clubs if liquidated would go into freefall.... its a non argument just emotional blackmail

I agree about all clubs in free fall but we are talking about a chairman who is hated and tolerated in equal numbers. He could decide he's had enough and walk away so there is a real danger here.

Doubt that the owners of the top 6 clubs in leagues outside the premiership would readily walk away atm because they are possibly going places (promotion). We on the other hand would need substantial investment to make a challenge next season and would Tan want to do that?

Keep kicking a dog and it will eventually bite back. I think we owe a debt of gratitude to the man

no idea what your getting at mate.... youve jumped from liquidation to him being hated by half our fans { which is a long way off the mark } and him walking away.. to chairmen of top 6 clubs.. ? to will there be investment nxt season ... and ended with a discussion on a messageboard being described as kicking the dog and owing him gratitude...
anyway ..i think most are grateful for what he did... but..i dont think anyone although appreciating we as Cardiff fans were beneficiaries and able to give a sigh of relief.. also do not realise
it was a business man making a business decision...
as for walking away...how does that go...? doesnt want to sell but would walk ... dont see it..

The club needs to have a reset. We won’t go down, but we are going nowhere. We lack a football brain at Board level. Wish we could have someone like Nathan Blake to come in and look at the club.

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

hmmm...so. we are not being bankrolled because of the return to Blue...he doesnt want to sell... but its fans that wont let it go ? as for championship sides becoming a success without large investment in the playing side.. who ? you can punch above your weight and get up but without then properly investing your nailed on to come back down...

Did a lot of people say rather in blue in league 2 than in red?? So we getting what we wanted. I asked for support in buying the club but no ones interested. So when local fans don’t want to invest how can you expect others? We need to look at ourselves first.

i think it was more a case of a few saying it numerous times than a lot... our crowds went up and protests were generally poorly attended initially... i do think there was a bit of a trade off going on in peoples minds ,fans and VT.. many fans who hated the red were prepared to swallow it for the investment { which turned out to be huge loans and a never ending gobstopper like debt } ..the serious investment stopped with Slade and resistance to the rebrand grew.. ... so its arguable who broke this trade off...
your spot on in what you say about local money... or at least thats the fear of many fans who remember the lower leagues with very little investment for 30 years .. i will never be a tan hater... but there comes a time when ytou have to wonder will this debt ever end, and where are we going... will add not sure why he would turn down a good offer

Who knows.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

Not my words but Dalmans, by all accounts.

Not to sell just because a buyer may (or may not) include Sam or someone else Tan dislikes potentially denies the club opportunities to move forward.

Others will disagree and have their arguments, but my view is to say thank you to VT, but a change is now needed.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

its Dalman that made that remark in the fans meeting.... Annis had said much the same on here months ago... and its not as if they are besties backing each other up...

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

Well Dalman said there was a very good offer put on the table.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

Well Dalman said there was a very good offer put on the table.

Must be true then if dalaman said it. What possible reason would he have to tell fibs.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

Well Dalman said there was a very good offer put on the table.

Must be true then if dalaman said it. What possible reason would he have to tell fibs.

I said well over a year ago two offers had been made, both accepted by Tan, you heard it from his Chairman the other week and not only confirmed it, but admitted it was a good offer. It was declined through personal dislike in my opinion.

So in my view, any losses suffered from now on Tan has to take it on the chin as he had the chance to get out and has chosen to stay, so there should be no moaning from the so called Committee.


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Well maybe. But over the years I’ve learnt to only believe things like this when they actually happen or there overwhelming evidence to suggest it was true.

Selling a house would be a good example offers fly in right left and centre but so many fall through or get rejected very rarely for personal reasons but mostly because it’s financially not right.

I hope some buys the club and does what tan did at the start, but unfortunately something tells me that was our chance. Hopefully I’m wrong on that.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

If tan lost interest or didnt care he would have sold club especially if he made money on deal! After all buisness men ruthless thats how make their money.... like I've said its about trust and he obviously doesn't trust the buyer with generous offer to take club forward or offer was not as generous as being suggested? Those screaming for him to go now are the very people who will shout loudest if he sells to unscrupulous people and club goes way of several with new owners who dont care for the club they bought and screwed it for everything it had and got it relegated or lost ground. or both.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

If tan lost interest or didnt care he would have sold club especially if he made money on deal! After all buisness men ruthless thats how make their money.... like I've said its about trust and he obviously doesn't trust the buyer with generous offer to take club forward or offer was not as generous as being suggested? Those screaming for him to go now are the very people who will shout loudest if he sells to unscrupulous people and club goes way of several with new owners who dont care for the club they bought and screwed it for everything it had and got it relegated or lost ground. or both.

I agree we do need a good owner in to replace Tan BUT on this occasion I believe the good offer that was turned down was done on personal reasons and not business reasons.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

If tan lost interest or didnt care he would have sold club especially if he made money on deal! After all buisness men ruthless thats how make their money.... like I've said its about trust and he obviously doesn't trust the buyer with generous offer to take club forward or offer was not as generous as being suggested? Those screaming for him to go now are the very people who will shout loudest if he sells to unscrupulous people and club goes way of several with new owners who dont care for the club they bought and screwed it for everything it had and got it relegated or lost ground. or both.

I agree we do need a good owner in to replace Tan BUT on this occasion I believe the good offer that was turned down was done on personal reasons and not business reasons.

100% it was Ian and not caring for our club , put his own personal reasons first.

Than has watched us 4 times in 4 yrs.

The Chairman and the CEO both now live in London.

Who runs our club?

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

If tan lost interest or didnt care he would have sold club especially if he made money on deal! After all buisness men ruthless thats how make their money.... like I've said its about trust and he obviously doesn't trust the buyer with generous offer to take club forward or offer was not as generous as being suggested? Those screaming for him to go now are the very people who will shout loudest if he sells to unscrupulous people and club goes way of several with new owners who dont care for the club they bought and screwed it for everything it had and got it relegated or lost ground. or both.

I agree we do need a good owner in to replace Tan BUT on this occasion I believe the good offer that was turned down was done on personal reasons and not business reasons.

By personal I presume he didnt want to do buisness with said person? If it's the person mentioned several times I dont blame him...... like said we need a new owner to take us forward and thats what tan a promised to do? It's a simple choice really sell to anyone prepared to offer his price or sell to the right person for club! People will be very quick to condemn him if sold to people like the venkies after promising he wouldn't.... If he didn't care like been suggested he would just sell without a care who it is?

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

If tan lost interest or didnt care he would have sold club especially if he made money on deal! After all buisness men ruthless thats how make their money.... like I've said its about trust and he obviously doesn't trust the buyer with generous offer to take club forward or offer was not as generous as being suggested? Those screaming for him to go now are the very people who will shout loudest if he sells to unscrupulous people and club goes way of several with new owners who dont care for the club they bought and screwed it for everything it had and got it relegated or lost ground. or both.

I agree we do need a good owner in to replace Tan BUT on this occasion I believe the good offer that was turned down was done on personal reasons and not business reasons.

100% it was Ian and not caring for our club , put his own personal reasons first.

Than has watched us 4 times in 4 yrs.

The Chairman and the CEO both now live in London.

Who runs our club?

Lets not forget he wanted out as well, Charlton athletic purchase

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

If tan lost interest or didnt care he would have sold club especially if he made money on deal! After all buisness men ruthless thats how make their money.... like I've said its about trust and he obviously doesn't trust the buyer with generous offer to take club forward or offer was not as generous as being suggested? Those screaming for him to go now are the very people who will shout loudest if he sells to unscrupulous people and club goes way of several with new owners who dont care for the club they bought and screwed it for everything it had and got it relegated or lost ground. or both.

I agree we do need a good owner in to replace Tan BUT on this occasion I believe the good offer that was turned down was done on personal reasons and not business reasons.

By personal I presume he didnt want to do buisness with said person? If it's the person mentioned several times I dont blame him...... like said we need a new owner to take us forward and thats what tan a promised to do? It's a simple choice really sell to anyone prepared to offer his price or sell to the right person for club! People will be very quick to condemn him if sold to people like the venkies after promising he wouldn't.... If he didn't care like been suggested he would just sell without a care who it is?

Tan said in the beginning of the rebrand " If the fans want me to leave I will leave BUT I will leave them in good shape". I'm not sure that meant a new owner although I'm not against that.

Let's be honest here but if it was anyone else Tan would have sold.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

If tan lost interest or didnt care he would have sold club especially if he made money on deal! After all buisness men ruthless thats how make their money.... like I've said its about trust and he obviously doesn't trust the buyer with generous offer to take club forward or offer was not as generous as being suggested? Those screaming for him to go now are the very people who will shout loudest if he sells to unscrupulous people and club goes way of several with new owners who dont care for the club they bought and screwed it for everything it had and got it relegated or lost ground. or both.

I agree we do need a good owner in to replace Tan BUT on this occasion I believe the good offer that was turned down was done on personal reasons and not business reasons.

By personal I presume he didnt want to do buisness with said person? If it's the person mentioned several times I dont blame him...... like said we need a new owner to take us forward and thats what tan a promised to do? It's a simple choice really sell to anyone prepared to offer his price or sell to the right person for club! People will be very quick to condemn him if sold to people like the venkies after promising he wouldn't.... If he didn't care like been suggested he would just sell without a care who it is?

Tan said in the beginning of the rebrand " If the fans want me to leave I will leave BUT I will leave them in good shape". I'm not sure that meant a new owner although I'm not against that.

Let's be honest here but if it was anyone else Tan would have sold.

Yes totally agree he would have sold up! As for leaving good shape he obviously believes club wouldn't
be in good hands if sold to that person! As for financially in good shape no debt would achieve that despite all the wrong decisions on management and players wages ect, but we'll only know this when he sells up....... what club cannot afford is to be sold to a venkie only need look at Coventry and other clubs that have suffered and are still suffering from such owners ? lower league football for long time and
no garauntee of getting back to championship.

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

If tan lost interest or didnt care he would have sold club especially if he made money on deal! After all buisness men ruthless thats how make their money.... like I've said its about trust and he obviously doesn't trust the buyer with generous offer to take club forward or offer was not as generous as being suggested? Those screaming for him to go now are the very people who will shout loudest if he sells to unscrupulous people and club goes way of several with new owners who dont care for the club they bought and screwed it for everything it had and got it relegated or lost ground. or both.

I agree we do need a good owner in to replace Tan BUT on this occasion I believe the good offer that was turned down was done on personal reasons and not business reasons.

By personal I presume he didnt want to do buisness with said person? If it's the person mentioned several times I dont blame him...... like said we need a new owner to take us forward and thats what tan a promised to do? It's a simple choice really sell to anyone prepared to offer his price or sell to the right person for club! People will be very quick to condemn him if sold to people like the venkies after promising he wouldn't.... If he didn't care like been suggested he would just sell without a care who it is?

Tan said in the beginning of the rebrand " If the fans want me to leave I will leave BUT I will leave them in good shape". I'm not sure that meant a new owner although I'm not against that.

Let's be honest here but if it was anyone else Tan would have sold.

Yes totally agree he would have sold up! As for leaving good shape he obviously believes club wouldn't
be in good hands if sold to that person! As for financially in good shape no debt would achieve that despite all the wrong decisions on management and players wages ect, but we'll only know this when he sells up....... what club cannot afford is to be sold to a venkie only need look at Coventry and other clubs that have suffered and are still suffering from such owners ? lower league football for long time and
no garauntee of getting back to championship.

Coventrys problems by no means start and end with their owners ,who have pumped millions in... and Blackburn
Coventry are 1 point behind us and Blackburn 8 points above us......neither are having parachute payments this year..had them last year... or had prem TV money the year before... or parachute payments for 3 years before that...

Let's not beat about the bush, Sam Hammam surely must be close to or be involved with one of the takeovers??

If this were the case Tan would turn down any bid eith Sam involved even if it turned him a huge profit, and would have catapulted Cardiff City to the next level and beyond.

If it's good for the club and a good offer, Tan should sell. Personalities should not get in the way.

** Not in the know, but trying to get my head round why Tan would turn down a 'Generous offer' **

I doubt very much there was a generous offer. Just a load of BS in my opinion.

May have been a generous offer but depends who was offering the money? You've Got to bare in mind where club was when tan took over and why we were fighting off tax man amongst others?... Think they call it trust and who wouldn't want tan to have complete trust in whoever wants to buy club or do people just want him to sell up to the 1st joe bloggs to come along with £50m and end up with owners like Bolton Wigan Coventry ect ect... easy for him to sell up but selling it to right person is imperative for city to progress.

Good post allan.
I will say,tan did say he would only sell to a buyer IF he believed it was good for the club.he also said he would not just walk away,leaving us up shit creek,with no paddle.
No doubt some know what,and who offered what,but obviously tan didnt feel comfortable with what,or whoever was behind the offer,his choice I guess.
As you say,if and when he accepts an offer,it must be beneficial to moving the club on to the next level,otherwise we could end up in deep shit!
I believe his beliefs and integrity will keep us safe for until he sells us on at least.after that?? Could be brilliant new owner who invests heavily in the squad,or god forbid the exact opposite.

If tan lost interest or didnt care he would have sold club especially if he made money on deal! After all buisness men ruthless thats how make their money.... like I've said its about trust and he obviously doesn't trust the buyer with generous offer to take club forward or offer was not as generous as being suggested? Those screaming for him to go now are the very people who will shout loudest if he sells to unscrupulous people and club goes way of several with new owners who dont care for the club they bought and screwed it for everything it had and got it relegated or lost ground. or both.

I agree we do need a good owner in to replace Tan BUT on this occasion I believe the good offer that was turned down was done on personal reasons and not business reasons.

By personal I presume he didnt want to do buisness with said person? If it's the person mentioned several times I dont blame him...... like said we need a new owner to take us forward and thats what tan a promised to do? It's a simple choice really sell to anyone prepared to offer his price or sell to the right person for club! People will be very quick to condemn him if sold to people like the venkies after promising he wouldn't.... If he didn't care like been suggested he would just sell without a care who it is?

Tan said in the beginning of the rebrand " If the fans want me to leave I will leave BUT I will leave them in good shape". I'm not sure that meant a new owner although I'm not against that.

Let's be honest here but if it was anyone else Tan would have sold.

Yes totally agree he would have sold up! As for leaving good shape he obviously believes club wouldn't
be in good hands if sold to that person! As for financially in good shape no debt would achieve that despite all the wrong decisions on management and players wages ect, but we'll only know this when he sells up....... what club cannot afford is to be sold to a venkie only need look at Coventry and other clubs that have suffered and are still suffering from such owners ? lower league football for long time and
no garauntee of getting back to championship.

Coventrys problems by no means start and end with their owners ,who have pumped millions in... and Blackburn
Coventry are 1 point behind us and Blackburn 8 points above us......neither are having parachute payments this year..had them last year... or had prem TV money the year before... or parachute payments for 3 years before that...

May not be suffering now but did from having bad owners and there are clubs out there who are still suffering from bad ownership Sunderland to name one! ......As for Coventry whats name of their ground? Anyway its about getting right owner or are people just happy to get rid tan regardless of consequences?

Coventry do not have a ground..which is partly why i said the problems do not begin and end with their owners.... who actually stepped in and saved them from administration.... the Venkies ? 11 years most of which without prem TV money , above us...and yes as with all clubs including ourselves... they have a section of critical fans .

Coventry do not have a ground..which is partly why i said the problems do not begin and end with their owners.... who actually stepped in and saved them from administration.... the Venkies ? 11 years most of which without prem TV money , above us...and yes as with all clubs including ourselves... they have a section of critical fans .

Venkies - Coventry?

Coventry do not have a ground..which is partly why i said the problems do not begin and end with their owners.... who actually stepped in and saved them from administration.... the Venkies ? 11 years most of which without prem TV money , above us...and yes as with all clubs including ourselves... they have a section of critical fans .

The venkies were extremely unpopular with Blackburn fans for way they ran club same as guy from hull is unpopular..... Coventry lost ground because of owners may not be present ones but but their owner previously ? fans saying for tan to go now yes Good idea let him take the 1st offer that gives him his money back he doesn't care if they have clubs interest at heart? sod the consequences if they turn out to be an asset stripping so & so like other clubs have had...

And if Tan decided to liquidate tomorrow we would be in freefall. As they say, "be careful what you wish for".

If he liquidates the club he loses everything. The only asset the club has is the ground. The council would almost certainly inserted a clause in the sale of the land which restricts its use to sporting activities. Who else wants a 33,000 stadium on the outskirts of Cardiff? Its our guarantee that means its in any creditors interest to keep the club alive.

It was the fact that the Council owned the freehold on Ninian Park that prevented anyone else buying the club and selling the land.