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Re: Going forward

Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:28 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Llantwit Blue wrote:Still calling for Murphy unbelievable that shot he had today just landed in Canton. When he comes and has an impact like Willson did then maybe I could understand but again offered nothing.

Thank goodness. I thought it was just me who wasn’t seeing anything in him.


A off form Murphy is still better than a on form Ojo or Hoilett.

Murphy offers a lot in his running off the ball and when he finds form he is one of the best wingers in the league. He needs to get his confidence back and when he does we will be very dangerous going forward . He won't do that sat on the bench .

So you thought Murphy contribution was more than Ojo today?
I’m always thinking each to his own opinion but I’d give Ojo 6.5 - 7 today and Murphy 4.5


I thought Ojos contribution was minimal at best . He did absolutely nothing all game.
Murphy is by far the better player we just need to get the confidence into him


I’ve been waiting since August 2018 to see Murphy play like he can.

Everybody knows there’s a player in there but he’s shown little to nothing except an odd half a game or an odd 20 minutes in all this time!

I’m sick of his lack of effort and sulking since he’s been here and tired of hearing about his lack of confidence for two and a half years.

If Mick can get him playing consistently then good luck but I’m not holding my breath.

Agree. I’m also fed up if hearing ‘he has to be given a run in the team’. Why exactly??


What do the others do that is any different ?

Hoillett has lost his pace and can't play every game anymore

Ojo is bang average and just as inconsistent as Murphy

Wilson is wasted out wide

Murphybis by far our most talented and valuable attacking player and we need to find out why he is not performing consistently not just give ip on a 11million pound player

So you think he’s done well in his appearances?
Or should we keep playing him til he does?


Has he played poorly ?
Not really he played very well last week and changed the game

Did he have a poor game yesterday ?
No, he came on and played ok and certainly no worse than Ojo

Last year he was our second highest scorer on 8 even though he played less games and was out wide

He is very talented and our most valuable player

Re: Going forward

Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:34 am

thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Llantwit Blue wrote:Still calling for Murphy unbelievable that shot he had today just landed in Canton. When he comes and has an impact like Willson did then maybe I could understand but again offered nothing.

Thank goodness. I thought it was just me who wasn’t seeing anything in him.


A off form Murphy is still better than a on form Ojo or Hoilett.

Murphy offers a lot in his running off the ball and when he finds form he is one of the best wingers in the league. He needs to get his confidence back and when he does we will be very dangerous going forward . He won't do that sat on the bench .

So you thought Murphy contribution was more than Ojo today?
I’m always thinking each to his own opinion but I’d give Ojo 6.5 - 7 today and Murphy 4.5


I thought Ojos contribution was minimal at best . He did absolutely nothing all game.
Murphy is by far the better player we just need to get the confidence into him


I’ve been waiting since August 2018 to see Murphy play like he can.

Everybody knows there’s a player in there but he’s shown little to nothing except an odd half a game or an odd 20 minutes in all this time!

I’m sick of his lack of effort and sulking since he’s been here and tired of hearing about his lack of confidence for two and a half years.

If Mick can get him playing consistently then good luck but I’m not holding my breath.

Agree. I’m also fed up if hearing ‘he has to be given a run in the team’. Why exactly??


What do the others do that is any different ?

Hoillett has lost his pace and can't play every game anymore

Ojo is bang average and just as inconsistent as Murphy

Wilson is wasted out wide

Murphybis by far our most talented and valuable attacking player and we need to find out why he is not performing consistently not just give ip on a 11million pound player

So you think he’s done well in his appearances?
Or should we keep playing him til he does?


Has he played poorly ?
Not really he played very well last week and changed the game

Did he have a poor game yesterday ?
No, he came on and played ok and certainly no worse than Ojo

Last year he was our second highest scorer on 8 even though he played less games and was out wide

He is very talented and our most valuable player

I agree that he changed the game last week.
I don’t agree that he wasn’t poor yesterday - he was poor and didn’t look up for it at all. Ojo (particularly first half) came looking for the ball and was able to bring it forward and he also covered defensively. Murphy doesn’t do either as he’s constantly passing to the invisible man, dribbling into dead ends or getting nudged far too easily off the ball - you must have seen this too.
I’m in no way saying Ojo is the perfect player but he is far more consistent.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:58 am

Whatever he does with Ojo and Mepurphy he was to pick Wilson from the start. This nonsense about not picking him because he is not trying hard enough in training is ridiculous. He is our best player and always gives 100% when playing. He has made his point about no ones position is safe now start picking our best team.

As for Ojo he is no future star just a bog standard championship player not good enough for the premier. Can be good on his day but too inconsistent. Hoilett and Murphy are interchangeable you start with one, it could be either, and if they are having a bad day subsistute him for the other. The handy thing about them is you can usually see if they are having a bad day quite quickly. With a bit of luck they won't both be having a bad day.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:08 pm

Crayfish wrote:Whatever he does with Ojo and Mepurphy he was to pick Wilson from the start. This nonsense about not picking him because he is not trying hard enough in training is ridiculous. He is our best player and always gives 100% when playing. He has made his point about no ones position is safe now start picking our best team.

As for Ojo he is no future star just a bog standard championship player not good enough for the premier. Can be good on his day but too inconsistent. Hoilett and Murphy are interchangeable you start with one, it could be either, and if they are having a bad day subsistute him for the other. The handy thing about them is you can usually see if they are having a bad day quite quickly. With a bit of luck they won't both be having a bad day.

Don’t disagree with that tbh.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:44 pm

Isnt it great, how people see things differently.imho murphy was worth around half of what we got fleeced for,never seen anything that makes him worth 11M? Yes wingers tend to be inconsistent, but they all usually have good form from time to time! When did murphy last do this for us?? He isnt getting games because he isnt showing he is worth the starting place.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:51 pm

bluesince62 wrote:Isnt it great, how people see things differently.imho murphy was worth around half of what we got fleeced for,never seen anything that makes him worth 11M? Yes wingers tend to be inconsistent, but they all usually have good form from time to time! When did murphy last do this for us?? He isnt getting games because he isnt showing he is worth the starting place.


You didn’t think it was great yesterday with my view being different to yours. You got quite upset about it.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:11 pm

thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:21 pm

moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:30 pm

thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Yes really. All wingers can be inconsistent. Ojo is a threat out wide and through the middle. I think Murphy has the potential to be a very good player but Ojo has made a far bigger contribution to our team this season NQAT.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:34 pm

moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Yes really. All wingers can be inconsistent. Ojo is a threat out wide and through the middle. I think Murphy has the potential to be a very good player but Ojo has made a far bigger contribution to our team this season NQAT.


I personally wouldn't say he's made a better contribution he's just played more because he has no real competition on the right

I just don't see him as a threat and have no confidence in him beating his man and getting a cross in at all . I'm fact I struggle to remember him even doing it recently

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:40 pm

thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Yes really. All wingers can be inconsistent. Ojo is a threat out wide and through the middle. I think Murphy has the potential to be a very good player but Ojo has made a far bigger contribution to our team this season NQAT.


I personally wouldn't say he's made a better contribution he's just played more because he has no real competition on the right

I just don't see him as a threat and have no confidence in him beating his man and getting a cross in at all . I'm fact I struggle to remember him even doing it recently

Scored v Barnsley 2 games ago....keep up and pay attention. He's played more than Murphy because he's better than him this season. There is nothing to say that Murphy has made a bigger contribution than Ojo this season....nothing.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:50 pm

moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Yes really. All wingers can be inconsistent. Ojo is a threat out wide and through the middle. I think Murphy has the potential to be a very good player but Ojo has made a far bigger contribution to our team this season NQAT.


I personally wouldn't say he's made a better contribution he's just played more because he has no real competition on the right

I just don't see him as a threat and have no confidence in him beating his man and getting a cross in at all . I'm fact I struggle to remember him even doing it recently

Scored v Barnsley 2 games ago....keep up and pay attention. He's played more than Murphy because he's better than him this season. There is nothing to say that Murphy has made a bigger contribution than Ojo this season....nothing.


No hes played more because Harris was a idiot and he actually has competition for his place on the left. Who is Ojos competition on the right ?

The goal was a decent deflection from a poor misshit shot , he was very poor throughout that game . Dont let a sine goal cloud the performance as a whole

When Murphy was actually played a bit last season he finished on 8 goals.

Re: Going forward

Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:58 pm

Sven wrote:
avondaleblue wrote:To be honest I'd like to get rid of Morrison, Flint and Nelson, they are all poor. What the f**k was Nelson squabbling with Zohore. Every game he has a shoving match with an opponent. It gives the referee a chance to to show a card or at least keep an eye on him

Curtis Neslon and Kenneth Zohore handbags at five paces and they were cool after the event; these things happen

No issue with him being aggressive; and if Kenneth Zohore had showed a bit more of that, he would have been the striker we thought he could be...

Yes but he does it after the whistle blows for an infringement so what is the point then. As I say it gives the referee an option to issue a needless card,especially these days when players go down when you blow on them.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:09 pm

thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Yes really. All wingers can be inconsistent. Ojo is a threat out wide and through the middle. I think Murphy has the potential to be a very good player but Ojo has made a far bigger contribution to our team this season NQAT.


I personally wouldn't say he's made a better contribution he's just played more because he has no real competition on the right

I just don't see him as a threat and have no confidence in him beating his man and getting a cross in at all . I'm fact I struggle to remember him even doing it recently

Scored v Barnsley 2 games ago....keep up and pay attention. He's played more than Murphy because he's better than him this season. There is nothing to say that Murphy has made a bigger contribution than Ojo this season....nothing.


No hes played more because Harris was a idiot and he actually has competition for his place on the left. Who is Ojos competition on the right ?

The goal was a decent deflection from a poor misshit shot , he was very poor throughout that game . Dont let a sine goal cloud the performance as a whole

When Murphy was actually played a bit last season he finished on 8 goals.

The discussion is about this season...not last! I said that I think Murphy can be a good player but regarding this season Ojo has made the far greater contribution. Ojo can play on the left too. He's put in some decent crosses from the left. Wingers switch wings throughout a game. Murphy isn't even close to Ojo this season. Stop being silly :thumbup:

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:12 pm

thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Yes really. All wingers can be inconsistent. Ojo is a threat out wide and through the middle. I think Murphy has the potential to be a very good player but Ojo has made a far bigger contribution to our team this season NQAT.


I personally wouldn't say he's made a better contribution he's just played more because he has no real competition on the right

I just don't see him as a threat and have no confidence in him beating his man and getting a cross in at all . I'm fact I struggle to remember him even doing it recently

Scored v Barnsley 2 games ago....keep up and pay attention. He's played more than Murphy because he's better than him this season. There is nothing to say that Murphy has made a bigger contribution than Ojo this season....nothing.


No hes played more because Harris was a idiot and he actually has competition for his place on the left. Who is Ojos competition on the right ?

The goal was a decent deflection from a poor misshit shot , he was very poor throughout that game . Dont let a sine goal cloud the performance as a whole

When Murphy was actually played a bit last season he finished on 8 goals.

Incidentally, who was the ‘poor midgut shot’ from? :laughing6:

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:12 pm

moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Yes really. All wingers can be inconsistent. Ojo is a threat out wide and through the middle. I think Murphy has the potential to be a very good player but Ojo has made a far bigger contribution to our team this season NQAT.


I personally wouldn't say he's made a better contribution he's just played more because he has no real competition on the right

I just don't see him as a threat and have no confidence in him beating his man and getting a cross in at all . I'm fact I struggle to remember him even doing it recently

Scored v Barnsley 2 games ago....keep up and pay attention. He's played more than Murphy because he's better than him this season. There is nothing to say that Murphy has made a bigger contribution than Ojo this season....nothing.


No hes played more because Harris was a idiot and he actually has competition for his place on the left. Who is Ojos competition on the right ?

The goal was a decent deflection from a poor misshit shot , he was very poor throughout that game . Dont let a sine goal cloud the performance as a whole

When Murphy was actually played a bit last season he finished on 8 goals.

The discussion is about this season...not last! I said that I think Murphy can be a good player but regarding this season Ojo has made the far greater contribution. Ojo can play on the left too. He's put in some decent crosses from the left. Wingers switch wings throughout a game. Murphy isn't even close to Ojo this season. Stop being silly :thumbup:


How can he be when we had a idiot manager who refused to play him

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:33 pm

thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Yes really. All wingers can be inconsistent. Ojo is a threat out wide and through the middle. I think Murphy has the potential to be a very good player but Ojo has made a far bigger contribution to our team this season NQAT.


I personally wouldn't say he's made a better contribution he's just played more because he has no real competition on the right

I just don't see him as a threat and have no confidence in him beating his man and getting a cross in at all . I'm fact I struggle to remember him even doing it recently

Scored v Barnsley 2 games ago....keep up and pay attention. He's played more than Murphy because he's better than him this season. There is nothing to say that Murphy has made a bigger contribution than Ojo this season....nothing.


No hes played more because Harris was a idiot and he actually has competition for his place on the left. Who is Ojos competition on the right ?

The goal was a decent deflection from a poor misshit shot , he was very poor throughout that game . Dont let a sine goal cloud the performance as a whole

When Murphy was actually played a bit last season he finished on 8 goals.

The discussion is about this season...not last! I said that I think Murphy can be a good player but regarding this season Ojo has made the far greater contribution. Ojo can play on the left too. He's put in some decent crosses from the left. Wingers switch wings throughout a game. Murphy isn't even close to Ojo this season. Stop being silly :thumbup:


How can he be when we had a idiot manager who refused to play him

It's a fact that Ojo has made a bigger contribution than Murphy this season. Nothing to do with the previous manager. MM has started him twice with Murphy on the bench. As proof that he can play on the left and cross the ball well, see the attach clip v huddersfield. Two assists in one game :thumbup:
https://youtu.be/xQMiXyxcAyo

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:43 pm

moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Mick McCarthy has to play a front three of Keiffer Moore, Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson

They are by far our best attacking players and we look so much more dangerous with them on the pitch.

We need a back up striker because Glatzel is awful with very little chance of scoring and causes us to lose shape and the ball . Watters is not going to be good enough at this level yet

The 343 formation we finished the game with looked very promising.

Leandra Bacuna, Robert Glatzel, Curtis Nelson and Shei Ojo need to be moved on as they are just holding the team back.

Lowering the number of lower league players in the team is a must.

Perry Ng looks a decent player but he hasn't really been tested yet in either game by a proper winger; time will tell with him.

Replace Nelson with a decent centre back alongside Aden Flint and Sean Morrison and we have a solid looking defence

The future could look quite bright with very little change

Ojo has produced far more than Murphy this season.


Not really hes massively inconsistent and does very little during most games. The odd good goal doesn't mask his poor all round performances.

Yes really. All wingers can be inconsistent. Ojo is a threat out wide and through the middle. I think Murphy has the potential to be a very good player but Ojo has made a far bigger contribution to our team this season NQAT.


I personally wouldn't say he's made a better contribution he's just played more because he has no real competition on the right

I just don't see him as a threat and have no confidence in him beating his man and getting a cross in at all . I'm fact I struggle to remember him even doing it recently

Scored v Barnsley 2 games ago....keep up and pay attention. He's played more than Murphy because he's better than him this season. There is nothing to say that Murphy has made a bigger contribution than Ojo this season....nothing.


No hes played more because Harris was a idiot and he actually has competition for his place on the left. Who is Ojos competition on the right ?

The goal was a decent deflection from a poor misshit shot , he was very poor throughout that game . Dont let a sine goal cloud the performance as a whole

When Murphy was actually played a bit last season he finished on 8 goals.

The discussion is about this season...not last! I said that I think Murphy can be a good player but regarding this season Ojo has made the far greater contribution. Ojo can play on the left too. He's put in some decent crosses from the left. Wingers switch wings throughout a game. Murphy isn't even close to Ojo this season. Stop being silly :thumbup:


How can he be when we had a idiot manager who refused to play him

It's a fact that Ojo has made a bigger contribution than Murphy this season. Nothing to do with the previous manager. MM has started him twice with Murphy on the bench. As proof that he can play on the left and cross the ball well, see the attach clip v huddersfield. Two assists in one game :thumbup:
https://youtu.be/xQMiXyxcAyo


Thats helpful
Should I link the other 25 games where he has done nothing?

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:53 pm

Maybe a ‘best of Josh Murphy at Cardiff’ video this season.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:47 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Maybe a ‘best of Josh Murphy at Cardiff’ video this season.

:laughing5: :thumbup:

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:49 pm

Thomasblue.....It was helpful but obviously not to someone as poor as you at judging players. And I mean POOR...because if you seriously think that Murphy has contributed more than Ojo to the team this season you have lost any tiny semblance of credibility that you may have had.

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:23 pm

moonboots wrote:Thomasblue.....It was helpful but obviously not to someone as poor as you at judging players. And I mean POOR...because if you seriously think that Murphy has contributed more than Ojo to the team this season you have lost any tiny semblance of credibility that you may have had.


I didnt say he's made a better contribution i said Ojo hasn't made much of one . They've both been inconsistent this season but Ojo more so as he's played more games.
Its not hard to understand

I dont look at players with blue tinted glasses like some

I am consistent if nothing else

Nelson , Glatzel , Bacuna and Ojo are all poor players who bring us nothing

I said the same about Etheridge and was right

I said the same about Patterson and was right

I said the same about Zahore and I was right

My judgement of players is fine thanks

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:59 am

thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:Thomasblue.....It was helpful but obviously not to someone as poor as you at judging players. And I mean POOR...because if you seriously think that Murphy has contributed more than Ojo to the team this season you have lost any tiny semblance of credibility that you may have had.


I didnt say he's made a better contribution i said Ojo hasn't made much of one . They've both been inconsistent this season but Ojo more so as he's played more games.
Its not hard to understand

I dont look at players with blue tinted glasses like some

I am consistent if nothing else

Nelson , Glatzel , Bacuna and Ojo are all poor players who bring us nothing

I said the same about Etheridge and was right

I said the same about Patterson and was right

I said the same about Zahore and I was right

My judgement of players is fine thanks


"I personally wouldn't say he's made a better contribution"
That's what you said at 9.34, when talking about Ojo as compared to Murphy.
And my whole argument has been that Ojo HAS made a greater contribution than Murphy this season. To be fair it is not rocket science, it's plain for everyone to see. Except you apparently!
Also, your claims about the merits and demerits of the other players that you listed are simply your points of view. There is nothing definitive about any of them. There are plenty on here who would say that Etheridge was a very good goalkeeper, and there are plenty who stick up for Glatzel (I'm not one of them by the way), so your claims to be a good judge of a player are purely subjective and are not necessarily correct. But if that's what you want to believe...crack on. :thumbup:

Re: ‘ Going forward ‘

Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:17 pm

who has contributed the most / least in this car crash season .... :oops:

dont worry about it because we are signing jonny williams to fix it...