Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

How can someone who claims to be educated make the leap from Out and Out criminals who murdered an innocent Black man to people being BLM protesters?

I've never claimed to be educated. I am working class, started at the bottom of the career ladder and worked my way up. Twice.

I am admittedly well-read and reasonably articulate, but that is nothing to do with any university education.

Do you think that these looters may have used the BLM protest as an opportunity to go looting? They didn't need to be members or supporters of BLM to do what they did. Do you think he was killed because he was an ex cop or do you think that anyone who tried to intervene would have been shot?

I've just addressed most of this in my last post, so won't repeat myself just refer you to that one, but no, I don't think it is a stretch to think that without the BLM protests the looting and riots would have happened. It makes me think of that viral clip of the CNN reporter telling us that the protests were mostly peaceful while the building on fire in the background was the police station.

To my mind, the protests and the riots were inextricably linked.

Unless you have proof that the murderers were there to protest alongside BLM protesters then its stretching credulity to associate them with BLM.

Let's take your argument here for just one minute and apply the logic in both directions.

Why was George Floyd's death an example of a racist murder? Can you prove Derek Chauvin intended to kill him in a premeditated way or was it over-zealous restraint so not murder but manslaughter? Can you prove that Chauvin did what he did (which I condone in the most strongest of terms) because he was racist? Unless you have proof that Chauvin deliberately killed Floyd and did so because he was black then the whole BLM narrative of 2020 falls apart.

Seeing as this was the catalyst for everything else that follows, I would say perhaps you should share your proof on this first, and then we will have a reasonable foundation to resolve the problems that come next, otherwise, when everything else is built on a lie, it is hard to put trust in any other arguments put forward from either side.

This is a problem in society that people think its right to pigeonhole and label others.

I agree.

Shame you couldn't live to your own standards though when you felt you had the right to pigeonhole and label me as 'a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out' because I said that racial segregation was a bad thing

some of the right wing nonsense on here is embarrassing, Cardiff City is a club followed by people of all colours . Jesus Christ its like a Swansea bnp loyalist get together .

Now what part is nonsense ? The truth now I know the left hate the truth but if this is your only response then I don’t think you win any of the debate.

2016 reporting that George Soros Open Society foundation donated to BLM

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016 ... eral-foun/

Have you looked into the source you've used there mate? They're a shocking source to use. However I think what the article is trying to do is frame black lives matter as a 'movement' not an organisation (Which to be fair is correct, it's a very loosely affiliated movement not some kind of exclusive club where everyone gets together and plots to take over the world via making players kneel briefly at EFL matches).

Anyway by framing it as a 'movement' they are suggesting that the open society donating to black causes (in this case black-led justice organisations) https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/ ... ommunities equates to donating to the 'black lives matter movement'.

The open society didn't donate a penny to 'black lives matter' as an organisation, if you can correct me on that please do.

Regarding David Dorn...

Were those that killed him marching under the name of BLM at the time? Yes.

Really??? They were robbing a shop not marching under the banner of anything? You do realise everyone that went out that night wasn't 'marching under the name of BLM'?

So if football hooligans are fighting and you say disgraceful of those supporters and I said what proof you have they are hooligans actually fighting you would say flaming hell chief that is obvious lol

Get in!!! Another Black Lives Matter thread!
I have changed my mind on the DISGUSTING and RACIST raised fist though Absolutely no place in society.

Trump may be a racist I have never heard him say anything but BLM are the ultimate racists and any buffoon who supports them is a foolish degenerate.

Unfortunately we have a cuck generation who have never been taught how to think but what to think.

all encouraged by the elites who love to divide and rule.

Get in!!! Another Black Lives Matter thread!
I have changed my mind on the DISGUSTING and RACIST raised fist though Absolutely no place in society.

Trump may be a racist I have never heard him say anything but BLM are the ultimate racists and any buffoon who supports them is a foolish degenerate.

Unfortunately we have a cuck generation who have never been taught how to think but what to think.

all encouraged by the elites who love to divide and rule.

And you're any different....?

And what's a 'cuck' generation?

How can someone who claims to be educated make the leap from Out and Out criminals who murdered an innocent Black man to people being BLM protesters?

I've never claimed to be educated. I am working class, started at the bottom of the career ladder and worked my way up. Twice.

I am admittedly well-read and reasonably articulate, but that is nothing to do with any university education.

Do you think that these looters may have used the BLM protest as an opportunity to go looting? They didn't need to be members or supporters of BLM to do what they did. Do you think he was killed because he was an ex cop or do you think that anyone who tried to intervene would have been shot?

I've just addressed most of this in my last post, so won't repeat myself just refer you to that one, but no, I don't think it is a stretch to think that without the BLM protests the looting and riots would have happened. It makes me think of that viral clip of the CNN reporter telling us that the protests were mostly peaceful while the building on fire in the background was the police station.

To my mind, the protests and the riots were inextricably linked.

Unless you have proof that the murderers were there to protest alongside BLM protesters then its stretching credulity to associate them with BLM.

Let's take your argument here for just one minute and apply the logic in both directions.

Why was George Floyd's death an example of a racist murder? Can you prove Derek Chauvin intended to kill him in a premeditated way or was it over-zealous restraint so not murder but manslaughter? Can you prove that Chauvin did what he did (which I condone in the most strongest of terms) because he was racist? Unless you have proof that Chauvin deliberately killed Floyd and did so because he was black then the whole BLM narrative of 2020 falls apart.

Seeing as this was the catalyst for everything else that follows, I would say perhaps you should share your proof on this first, and then we will have a reasonable foundation to resolve the problems that come next, otherwise, when everything else is built on a lie, it is hard to put trust in any other arguments put forward from either side.

This is a problem in society that people think its right to pigeonhole and label others.

I agree.

Shame you couldn't live to your own standards though when you felt you had the right to pigeonhole and label me as 'a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out' because I said that racial segregation was a bad thing

You are quite clever in twisting words are getting the ,"more right wing" elements on here to hang off your every word and applaud you. Its a tactic that has been used by orators good and evil for centuries. There are people in society who will use a situation to their advantage whilst claiming innocence. Ask yourself How long was Chauvins Knee on Floyds neck? How often was he told that Floyd wasn't breathing? he was there long enough after being told to ensure that Floyd was no threat again. Did he want to kill him? i don't know and i don't have proof but a Grand Jury think there's enough evidence!!

Now back to your BLM murderers if we follow your logic then all BLM are Looters and all looters are BLM. Have you never heard of people using civil unrest to go and achieve their nefarious aims? Scenario- "Hey guys there a BLM march going on and it looks like turning into a riot. Lets go and loot that shop i showed you yesterday!" OR, "we are going to march in solidarity with BLM" ....ooh look a shop, lets go loot it".

This is a fact. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE LOOTERS/ MURDERERS WERE BLM MARCHERS OR PROTESTER. I believe they just took advantage of the situation. You choose to say they were BLM

You know you remind me of Tommy Robinson in the way you frame your arguments and use your posts to whip up anti black sentiments. How about people posting toons of Lewis Hamilton being beheaded? they are the type of people that your posts empower.

This is why I called you, "a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out"
It's beyond me that you are so sure that the looters were BLM. Unbelievable logic there????

Ealing I don't actually support BLM as I've stated previously so won't get into a whole thing about whether they are good or evil as it's not relevant to my initial comment on this thread. However unlike many on this forum I don't think that not supporting something gives me free license to call them murderers and spout theories about them with no factual evidence.

So if football hooligans are fighting and you say disgraceful of those supporters and I said what proof you have they are hooligans actually fighting you would say flaming hell chief that is obvious lol

I would say those specific people are idiots whether football hooligans or not, the responsibility falls on the individual.

Since we've gone down this route, if Cardiff pull off a blinder of a run and get promoted via play offs this season. Cardiff City organise a parade through town with free booze for everyone (we can dream...).

Now some dickhead decides to rob the Spar, punches the security guy for trying to stop him and ends up killing the bloke.... Does responsibility fall on the football club? The guy who organised the parade? Or does it fall on the individual for his actions.

As has been argued by Ealing, if the protest in the USA wasn't put on in the first place this whole mess wouldn't have happened so the organisers must be murderers right? (it was a very broad protest by the way not directly organised by 'black lives matter' - but that's an argument for another day).

Does the same apply if it happened with a Cardiff fan in the city? Are we all, and the club, responsible for one dickheads actions?

How can someone who claims to be educated make the leap from Out and Out criminals who murdered an innocent Black man to people being BLM protesters?

I've never claimed to be educated. I am working class, started at the bottom of the career ladder and worked my way up. Twice.

I am admittedly well-read and reasonably articulate, but that is nothing to do with any university education.

Do you think that these looters may have used the BLM protest as an opportunity to go looting? They didn't need to be members or supporters of BLM to do what they did. Do you think he was killed because he was an ex cop or do you think that anyone who tried to intervene would have been shot?

I've just addressed most of this in my last post, so won't repeat myself just refer you to that one, but no, I don't think it is a stretch to think that without the BLM protests the looting and riots would have happened. It makes me think of that viral clip of the CNN reporter telling us that the protests were mostly peaceful while the building on fire in the background was the police station.

To my mind, the protests and the riots were inextricably linked.

Unless you have proof that the murderers were there to protest alongside BLM protesters then its stretching credulity to associate them with BLM.

Let's take your argument here for just one minute and apply the logic in both directions.

Why was George Floyd's death an example of a racist murder? Can you prove Derek Chauvin intended to kill him in a premeditated way or was it over-zealous restraint so not murder but manslaughter? Can you prove that Chauvin did what he did (which I condone in the most strongest of terms) because he was racist? Unless you have proof that Chauvin deliberately killed Floyd and did so because he was black then the whole BLM narrative of 2020 falls apart.

Seeing as this was the catalyst for everything else that follows, I would say perhaps you should share your proof on this first, and then we will have a reasonable foundation to resolve the problems that come next, otherwise, when everything else is built on a lie, it is hard to put trust in any other arguments put forward from either side.

This is a problem in society that people think its right to pigeonhole and label others.

I agree.

Shame you couldn't live to your own standards though when you felt you had the right to pigeonhole and label me as 'a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out' because I said that racial segregation was a bad thing

You are quite clever in twisting words are getting the ,"more right wing" elements on here to hang off your every word and applaud you. Its a tactic that has been used by orators good and evil for centuries. There are people in society who will use a situation to their advantage whilst claiming innocence. Ask yourself How long was Chauvins Knee on Floyds neck? How often was he told that Floyd wasn't breathing? he was there long enough after being told to ensure that Floyd was no threat again. Did he want to kill him? i don't know and i don't have proof but a Grand Jury think there's enough evidence!!

Now back to your BLM murderers if we follow your logic then all BLM are Looters and all looters are BLM. Have you never heard of people using civil unrest to go and achieve their nefarious aims? Scenario- "Hey guys there a BLM march going on and it looks like turning into a riot. Lets go and loot that shop i showed you yesterday!" OR, "we are going to march in solidarity with BLM" ....ooh look a shop, lets go loot it".

This is a fact. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE LOOTERS/ MURDERERS WERE BLM MARCHERS OR PROTESTER. I believe they just took advantage of the situation. You choose to say they were BLM

You know you remind me of Tommy Robinson in the way you frame your arguments and use your posts to whip up anti black sentiments. How about people posting toons of Lewis Hamilton being beheaded? they are the type of people that your posts empower.

This is why I called you, "a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out"
It's beyond me that you are so sure that the looters were BLM. Unbelievable logic there????

"Unbelievable logic" ? He's got no logic. He just states something that's right wing and all the lemmings on here love it, he doesn't need evidence of what he says.

Right so those that saying there was no proof that it was BLM supporters that took part in the looting ?? They were on the streets for the cause of BLM and the leaders of BLM were telling people to burn the system down. If you can’t see that there is no point debating on that score.
Here in the U.K. do you say there was no proof BLM tore down the Colston Statue or vandalised Churchill’s statue of vandalised several cenotaphs ? Will be good to hear you deny that one.
Now do those that have slated my post and haven’t answered in any sort of debatable manor tell my I was bang on the button or not about BLM being politically motivated and Marxist ?

Right so those that saying there was no proof that it was BLM supporters that took part in the looting ?? They were on the streets for the cause of BLM and the leaders of BLM were telling people to burn the system down. If you can’t see that there is no point debating on that score.
Here in the U.K. do you say there was no proof BLM tore down the Colston Statue or vandalised Churchill’s statue of vandalised several cenotaphs ? Will be good to hear you deny that one.
Now do those that have slated my post and haven’t answered in any sort of debatable manor tell my I was bang on the button or not about BLM being politically motivated and Marxist ?

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

How can someone who claims to be educated make the leap from Out and Out criminals who murdered an innocent Black man to people being BLM protesters?

I've never claimed to be educated. I am working class, started at the bottom of the career ladder and worked my way up. Twice.

I am admittedly well-read and reasonably articulate, but that is nothing to do with any university education.

Do you think that these looters may have used the BLM protest as an opportunity to go looting? They didn't need to be members or supporters of BLM to do what they did. Do you think he was killed because he was an ex cop or do you think that anyone who tried to intervene would have been shot?

I've just addressed most of this in my last post, so won't repeat myself just refer you to that one, but no, I don't think it is a stretch to think that without the BLM protests the looting and riots would have happened. It makes me think of that viral clip of the CNN reporter telling us that the protests were mostly peaceful while the building on fire in the background was the police station.

To my mind, the protests and the riots were inextricably linked.

Unless you have proof that the murderers were there to protest alongside BLM protesters then its stretching credulity to associate them with BLM.

Let's take your argument here for just one minute and apply the logic in both directions.

Why was George Floyd's death an example of a racist murder? Can you prove Derek Chauvin intended to kill him in a premeditated way or was it over-zealous restraint so not murder but manslaughter? Can you prove that Chauvin did what he did (which I condone in the most strongest of terms) because he was racist? Unless you have proof that Chauvin deliberately killed Floyd and did so because he was black then the whole BLM narrative of 2020 falls apart.

Seeing as this was the catalyst for everything else that follows, I would say perhaps you should share your proof on this first, and then we will have a reasonable foundation to resolve the problems that come next, otherwise, when everything else is built on a lie, it is hard to put trust in any other arguments put forward from either side.

This is a problem in society that people think its right to pigeonhole and label others.

I agree.

Shame you couldn't live to your own standards though when you felt you had the right to pigeonhole and label me as 'a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out' because I said that racial segregation was a bad thing

You are quite clever in twisting words are getting the ,"more right wing" elements on here to hang off your every word and applaud you. Its a tactic that has been used by orators good and evil for centuries. There are people in society who will use a situation to their advantage whilst claiming innocence. Ask yourself How long was Chauvins Knee on Floyds neck? How often was he told that Floyd wasn't breathing? he was there long enough after being told to ensure that Floyd was no threat again. Did he want to kill him? i don't know and i don't have proof but a Grand Jury think there's enough evidence!!

Now back to your BLM murderers if we follow your logic then all BLM are Looters and all looters are BLM. Have you never heard of people using civil unrest to go and achieve their nefarious aims? Scenario- "Hey guys there a BLM march going on and it looks like turning into a riot. Lets go and loot that shop i showed you yesterday!" OR, "we are going to march in solidarity with BLM" ....ooh look a shop, lets go loot it".

This is a fact. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE LOOTERS/ MURDERERS WERE BLM MARCHERS OR PROTESTER. I believe they just took advantage of the situation. You choose to say they were BLM

You know you remind me of Tommy Robinson in the way you frame your arguments and use your posts to whip up anti black sentiments. How about people posting toons of Lewis Hamilton being beheaded? they are the type of people that your posts empower.

This is why I called you, "a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out"
It's beyond me that you are so sure that the looters were BLM. Unbelievable logic there????

"Unbelievable logic" ? He's got no logic. He just states something that's right wing and all the lemmings on here love it, he doesn't need evidence of what he says.

Something that’s right wing not wishing to speak for anyone else on here but the people you call right wing seem to be fairly central in their politics. Just to clarify for you BLM do not speak for the majority of black people, BLM are a self confessed politically extreme group, for you and others on here to throw accusations of racism at fellow City Fans simply because they see BLM for what they are really is low.

Right so those that saying there was no proof that it was BLM supporters that took part in the looting ?? They were on the streets for the cause of BLM and the leaders of BLM were telling people to burn the system down. If you can’t see that there is no point debating on that score.
Here in the U.K. do you say there was no proof BLM tore down the Colston Statue or vandalised Churchill’s statue of vandalised several cenotaphs ? Will be good to hear you deny that one.
Now do those that have slated my post and haven’t answered in any sort of debatable manor tell my I was bang on the button or not about BLM being politically motivated and Marxist ?

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

Non violent check out the delusional bint that leads BLM in Oxford. BLM in the US deleted loads of crackpot Marxist shite from their website but there’s plenty of screen grabs on line.

Although millions of football fans want it rid of the game – Global247news spoke exclusively with Steven Thomas, a Cardiff City supporter. Walters words not mine.
Your the fool if you've let someone
claim credit for work you've written.
It sure as hell looks like he's wrote the article.His name is at the top of the article. It says by Michael Walters.

How can someone who claims to be educated make the leap from Out and Out criminals who murdered an innocent Black man to people being BLM protesters?

I've never claimed to be educated. I am working class, started at the bottom of the career ladder and worked my way up. Twice.

I am admittedly well-read and reasonably articulate, but that is nothing to do with any university education.

Do you think that these looters may have used the BLM protest as an opportunity to go looting? They didn't need to be members or supporters of BLM to do what they did. Do you think he was killed because he was an ex cop or do you think that anyone who tried to intervene would have been shot?

I've just addressed most of this in my last post, so won't repeat myself just refer you to that one, but no, I don't think it is a stretch to think that without the BLM protests the looting and riots would have happened. It makes me think of that viral clip of the CNN reporter telling us that the protests were mostly peaceful while the building on fire in the background was the police station.

To my mind, the protests and the riots were inextricably linked.

Unless you have proof that the murderers were there to protest alongside BLM protesters then its stretching credulity to associate them with BLM.

Let's take your argument here for just one minute and apply the logic in both directions.

Why was George Floyd's death an example of a racist murder? Can you prove Derek Chauvin intended to kill him in a premeditated way or was it over-zealous restraint so not murder but manslaughter? Can you prove that Chauvin did what he did (which I condone in the most strongest of terms) because he was racist? Unless you have proof that Chauvin deliberately killed Floyd and did so because he was black then the whole BLM narrative of 2020 falls apart.

Seeing as this was the catalyst for everything else that follows, I would say perhaps you should share your proof on this first, and then we will have a reasonable foundation to resolve the problems that come next, otherwise, when everything else is built on a lie, it is hard to put trust in any other arguments put forward from either side.

This is a problem in society that people think its right to pigeonhole and label others.

I agree.

Shame you couldn't live to your own standards though when you felt you had the right to pigeonhole and label me as 'a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out' because I said that racial segregation was a bad thing

You are quite clever in twisting words are getting the ,"more right wing" elements on here to hang off your every word and applaud you. Its a tactic that has been used by orators good and evil for centuries. There are people in society who will use a situation to their advantage whilst claiming innocence. Ask yourself How long was Chauvins Knee on Floyds neck? How often was he told that Floyd wasn't breathing? he was there long enough after being told to ensure that Floyd was no threat again. Did he want to kill him? i don't know and i don't have proof but a Grand Jury think there's enough evidence!!

Now back to your BLM murderers if we follow your logic then all BLM are Looters and all looters are BLM. Have you never heard of people using civil unrest to go and achieve their nefarious aims? Scenario- "Hey guys there a BLM march going on and it looks like turning into a riot. Lets go and loot that shop i showed you yesterday!" OR, "we are going to march in solidarity with BLM" ....ooh look a shop, lets go loot it".

This is a fact. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE LOOTERS/ MURDERERS WERE BLM MARCHERS OR PROTESTER. I believe they just took advantage of the situation. You choose to say they were BLM

You know you remind me of Tommy Robinson in the way you frame your arguments and use your posts to whip up anti black sentiments. How about people posting toons of Lewis Hamilton being beheaded? they are the type of people that your posts empower.

This is why I called you, "a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out"
It's beyond me that you are so sure that the looters were BLM. Unbelievable logic there????

"Unbelievable logic" ? He's got no logic. He just states something that's right wing and all the lemmings on here love it, he doesn't need evidence of what he says.

indeed . spontaneous parallel protestriots.... were the goodies wearing white hats too....

Get in!!! Another Black Lives Matter thread!
I have changed my mind on the DISGUSTING and RACIST raised fist though Absolutely no place in society.

Trump may be a racist I have never heard him say anything but BLM are the ultimate racists and any buffoon who supports them is a foolish degenerate.

Unfortunately we have a cuck generation who have never been taught how to think but what to think.

all encouraged by the elites who love to divide and rule.

And you're any different....?

And what's a 'cuck' generation?

is sven joshes dad ???????????????????????????????????????? lol

the moderator with delusions of granduer

Although millions of football fans want it rid of the game – Global247news spoke exclusively with Steven Thomas, a Cardiff City supporter. Walters words not mine.
Your the fool if you've let someone
claim credit for work you've written.
It sure as hell looks like he's wrote the article.His name is at the top of the article. It says by Michael Walters.

FFS I was contacted by them and asked for my thoughts on taking the knee. I wrote the article and sent it to him. He then edited it a bit added a bit more and put it out. The original piece I wrote and sent to him I used on here. It’s the unedited bit. Now stop being a conspiracy theorist.

the way you frame your arguments and use your posts to whip up anti black sentiments.

Find one f*cking post, just one where I have deviated away from the position that I stand against BLM because of the division they are creating deliberately between the races.

I abhor racism, always have done always will - so don't you dare accuse me of whipping up anti-black sentiments because that is an outright f*cking lie and anyone on here who has read what I have said for half a year on this f*cking topic, whether they agree with me or not will at least be able to say I've never once said anything anti-black.

I've been patient with you enough times.

Back your f*cking statement up with anything I have said that is anti-black or racist or just f**k off, but don't make shit up - because it is easily and verifiably proven to be false.

Last time you did that I went to the effort of pointing out every lie you told and still remained polite and still you f*cking carry on with your absolutely baseless lies and bullshit. You do realise people can see older posts on the internet right?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=219041&start=60

the way you frame your arguments and use your posts to whip up anti black sentiments.

Find one f*cking post, just one where I have deviated away from the position that I stand against BLM because of the division they are creating deliberately between the races.

I abhor racism, always have done always will - so don't you dare accuse me of whipping up anti-black sentiments because that is an outright f*cking lie and anyone on here who has read what I have said for half a year on this f*cking topic, whether they agree with me or not will at least be able to say I've never once said anything anti-black.

I've been patient with you enough times.

Back your f*cking statement up with anything I have said that is anti-black or racist or just f**k off, but don't make shit up - because it is easily and verifiably proven to be false.

Last time you did that I went to the effort of pointing out every lie you told and still remained polite and still you f*cking carry on with your absolutely baseless lies and bullshit. You do realise people can see older posts on the internet right?

https://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/view ... 1&start=60

Chief when someone on the left starts to lose an argument they come straight out with the racist or far right or Nazi. They seem to think by doing this it wins the argument and shuts you down. Because society has said anyone that gets branded a racist must be and should be shunned and it scares many people. I’m used to it now they are just scum. Put the stupid fucker on ignore not even worth arguing with. He shows more traits of racism and being a fascist than anyone else

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

I've just taken this from an archive of the Black Lives Matter website from June 2019. https://web.archive.org/web/20190605234 ... e-believe/

"We returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many."

They changed the language of their website when it came under greater scrutiny.

Make of that what you will.

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

I've just taken this from an archive of the Black Lives Matter website from June 2019. https://web.archive.org/web/20190605234 ... e-believe/

"We returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many."

They changed the language of their website when it came under greater scrutiny.

Make of that what you will.

I refer you to your post about the Looters/Murders being BLM. WHERE is you proof? and the way you state things to enhance your own Position. How about the smallest States in the USA to justify that covid deaths were false. How about your assertations that institutional racism doesn't exist because , "We blew that ship out of the water on this forum".

Who do you think you are to make claims like that?? You are delusional and have a severe problem with Black society and equality. If you are suffering from these delusions of grandeur then i truly hope you can get professional help because i have no ill will towards people who need and probably merit help.

Institutional racism doesn't exist, We blew that ship out of the water on this forum". jesus save us. Please keep taking the medication



You are A right wing nasty who probably uses the saying, "i haven't got a racist bone in my body but........."

Ealing I don't actually support BLM as I've stated previously so won't get into a whole thing about whether they are good or evil as it's not relevant to my initial comment on this thread. However unlike many on this forum I don't think that not supporting something gives me free license to call them murderers and spout theories about them with no factual evidence.

Fair enough, I personally struggle to see how the rioting and looting that occurred in tandem to a BLM protest can be seperated out. It just happened too consistently to be a coincidence that where there was riots and looting, there was a good chance there would be a BLM protest nearby. If not, then it would be ANTIFA but they became pretty much interchangeable by the end of the summer anyway.

But I can understand the point you are making about explicit proof. Sadly the world has become so polarised that often it feels like we are watching the same movie yet somehow witnessing different scenes. What seems blindly obvious to one person, someone else cannot see at all.


However, seeing as you haven't accused me of being some evil dimwitted/genius mastermind hell-bent on convincing all the evil far-right posters that I apparently have hypnotized under my illogical/yet strangely powerful spell to dance to my merry tune all because I am apparently "a sad individual consumed by my own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls me out for whipping up anti-black sentiment" and doing so by saying such hateful things like race segregation is bad. (seriously I must be the world's worst white supremacist!)

Well anyway, seeing as you didn't say anything along those lines then I'll take the middle ground of me not being the antichrist - think that's as good as a win today

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

I've just taken this from an archive of the Black Lives Matter website from June 2019. https://web.archive.org/web/20190605234 ... e-believe/

"We returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many."

They changed the language of their website when it came under greater scrutiny.

Make of that what you will.

I refer you to your post about the Looters/Murders being BLM. WHERE is you proof? and the way you state things to enhance your own Position. How about the smallest States in the USA to justify that covid deaths were false. How about your assertations that institutional racism doesn't exist because , "We blew that ship out of the water on this forum".

Who do you think you are to make claims like that?? You are delusional and have a severe problem with Black society and equality. If you are suffering from these delusions of grandeur then i truly hope you can get professional help because i have no ill will towards people who need and probably merit help.

Institutional racism doesn't exist, We blew that ship out of the water on this forum". jesus save us. Please keep taking the medication



You are A right wing nasty who probably uses the saying, "i haven't got a racist bone in my body but........."

Here you go I already have the post ready for you because you're asking the same shite you asked before.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=219041&start=60

Now if you can find one quote. Any quote where I have ever said anything racist, get it up and with a link.

Otherwise, f**k off because you are making yourself look like a right nob throwing around baseless accusations without any grounds whatsoever.

Oh and you quoted the wrong post as well. Moron.

the way you frame your arguments and use your posts to whip up anti black sentiments.

Find one f*cking post, just one where I have deviated away from the position that I stand against BLM because of the division they are creating deliberately between the races.

I abhor racism, always have done always will - so don't you dare accuse me of whipping up anti-black sentiments because that is an outright f*cking lie and anyone on here who has read what I have said for half a year on this f*cking topic, whether they agree with me or not will at least be able to say I've never once said anything anti-black.

I've been patient with you enough times.

Back your f*cking statement up with anything I have said that is anti-black or racist or just f**k off, but don't make shit up - because it is easily and verifiably proven to be false.

Last time you did that I went to the effort of pointing out every lie you told and still remained polite and still you f*cking carry on with your absolutely baseless lies and bullshit. You do realise people can see older posts on the internet right?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=219041&start=60

Chief when someone on the left starts to lose an argument they come straight out with the racist or far right or Nazi. They seem to think by doing this it wins the argument and shuts you down. Because society has said anyone that gets branded a racist must be and should be shunned and it scares many people. I’m used to it now they are just scum. Put the stupid fucker on ignore not even worth arguing with. He shows more traits of racism and being a fascist than anyone else

Aye the hatred is strong in this one for sure. He's got a bit of a pet grievance with me apparently. In fairness I took it with good grace last time he raised his head out of the cesspit but I can't be arsed being so polite this time around.

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

I've just taken this from an archive of the Black Lives Matter website from June 2019. https://web.archive.org/web/20190605234 ... e-believe/

"We returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many."

They changed the language of their website when it came under greater scrutiny.

Make of that what you will.

I refer you to your post about the Looters/Murders being BLM. WHERE is you proof? and the way you state things to enhance your own Position. How about the smallest States in the USA to justify that covid deaths were false. How about your assertations that institutional racism doesn't exist because , "We blew that ship out of the water on this forum".

Who do you think you are to make claims like that?? You are delusional and have a severe problem with Black society and equality. If you are suffering from these delusions of grandeur then i truly hope you can get professional help because i have no ill will towards people who need and probably merit help.

Institutional racism doesn't exist, We blew that ship out of the water on this forum". jesus save us. Please keep taking the medication



You are A right wing nasty who probably uses the saying, "i haven't got a racist bone in my body but........."

Here you go I already have the post ready for you because you're asking the same shite you asked before.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=219041&start=60

Now if you can find one quote. Any quote where I have ever said anything racist, get it up and with a link.

Otherwise, f**k off because you are making yourself look like a right nob throwing around baseless accusations without any grounds whatsoever.

Oh and you quoted the wrong post as well. Moron.

So Institutional Racism doesn't Exist?? That in itself is one of the most racist statements i've heard in a long time. How about denying the metrics on stop and search being heavily weighted in favour of the number of Blacks Being stopped. You deny a problem coz you were stopped and searched outside a tube station on a Friday night! All commentators say that stop and search is used disproportionately against Blacks but you, who discovered institutional racism don't exist deny it it.

One again this is evidence to back up my claims about you and on top of all that you called me a MORON. OMG you have found me out!!!!! I need some of your medication.

Seriously as i said, if you are getting professional; help and if this forum is part of your therapy i do wish you well and hope you can find a calm place in your mind where all are born equal under god. PS keep swearing, i love it xx

Well anyway, seeing as you didn't say anything along those lines then I'll take the middle ground of me not being the antichrist - think that's as good as a win today

You're not the antichrist mate just someone who, like many on here, have a very strong opinion on BLM considering they can't seem to grasp what they actually are

Countless organisations going under the name of 'black lives matter' or using the slogan. Some are using it for fundraising clout, some like the slogan, but it's not some global marxist membership club as these threads would have you believe. It started out as a hashtag on twitter ffs! It's just a catchy term that has been adopted to varying extents by individuals and groups.

For example you posted about how Black Lives Matter have changed their tune on whether they are political or not. Not the case at all. You posted a link to the USA page. The text in the post you were replying to is from the UK page (who state on their site they are in no way affiliated with the USA one). Black Lives Matter UK are ALSO in no way associated with 'BLMUK' who are a totally different organisation again. It goes on and on and on, all different little groups made up I would imagine mostly by trust fund students looking to raise cash so they can stage a demo. All with different ideas on what the world should be like and who should be in charge.

More importantly than that the vast majority of people who go to a demo know NOTHING about these organisations. They're just protestors who want to protest what they perceive as injustice, and will shout 'black lives matter' as it's the main slogan going on at these events and a catchy thing to shout.

It's not some members club where everyone gets together and secretly spends Geoge Soros' billions on lobbying the EFL to get players to kneel so they can disseminate marxism across the world via Sky Sports.

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

I've just taken this from an archive of the Black Lives Matter website from June 2019. https://web.archive.org/web/20190605234 ... e-believe/

"We returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many."

They changed the language of their website when it came under greater scrutiny.

Make of that what you will.

I refer you to your post about the Looters/Murders being BLM. WHERE is you proof? and the way you state things to enhance your own Position. How about the smallest States in the USA to justify that covid deaths were false. How about your assertations that institutional racism doesn't exist because , "We blew that ship out of the water on this forum".

Who do you think you are to make claims like that?? You are delusional and have a severe problem with Black society and equality. If you are suffering from these delusions of grandeur then i truly hope you can get professional help because i have no ill will towards people who need and probably merit help.

Institutional racism doesn't exist, We blew that ship out of the water on this forum". jesus save us. Please keep taking the medication



You are A right wing nasty who probably uses the saying, "i haven't got a racist bone in my body but........."

Here you go I already have the post ready for you because you're asking the same shite you asked before.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=219041&start=60

Now if you can find one quote. Any quote where I have ever said anything racist, get it up and with a link.

Otherwise, f**k off because you are making yourself look like a right nob throwing around baseless accusations without any grounds whatsoever.

Oh and you quoted the wrong post as well. Moron.

So Institutional Racism doesn't Exist?? That in itself is one of the most racist statements i've heard in a long time. How about denying the metrics on stop and search being heavily weighted in favour of the number of Blacks Being stopped. You deny a problem coz you were stopped and searched outside a tube station on a Friday night! All commentators say that stop and search is used disproportionately against Blacks but you, who discovered institutional racism don't exist deny it it.

One again this is evidence to back up my claims about you and on top of all that you called me a MORON. OMG you have found me out!!!!! I need some of your medication.

Seriously as i said, if you are getting professional; help and if this forum is part of your therapy i do wish you well and hope you can find a calm place in your mind where all are born equal under god. PS keep swearing, i love it xx

I actually do suffer from mental health issues not that it has anything to do with you at all.

I've been open about that on this forum before. However, I choose not to be a victim. I choose not to let my disability define me.

The fact that you choose to belittle someone over a mental disability says plenty about you though.

You've shown yourself to be a deeply racist in previous posts, firstly by claiming a black man and a white man cannot see a shared view of the world and also quite bizzarely taking umbrage at me saying that racial segregation was a bad thing. .

Now you've shown yourself to be a bigot, by mocking someone with a mental illness.

You must be really proud of yourself.

[It's not some members club where everyone gets together and secretly spends Geoge Soros' billions on lobbying the EFL to get players to kneel so they can disseminate marxism across the world via Sky Sports.

That's what they want you to think...

...they actually plan on using ESPN

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

I've just taken this from an archive of the Black Lives Matter website from June 2019. https://web.archive.org/web/20190605234 ... e-believe/

"We returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many."

They changed the language of their website when it came under greater scrutiny.

Make of that what you will.

I refer you to your post about the Looters/Murders being BLM. WHERE is you proof? and the way you state things to enhance your own Position. How about the smallest States in the USA to justify that covid deaths were false. How about your assertations that institutional racism doesn't exist because , "We blew that ship out of the water on this forum".

Who do you think you are to make claims like that?? You are delusional and have a severe problem with Black society and equality. If you are suffering from these delusions of grandeur then i truly hope you can get professional help because i have no ill will towards people who need and probably merit help.

Institutional racism doesn't exist, We blew that ship out of the water on this forum". jesus save us. Please keep taking the medication



You are A right wing nasty who probably uses the saying, "i haven't got a racist bone in my body but........."

you sound like the Liverpool chairman trying to blame Chelsea fans after the Hysel disaster.... f**k right and wrong, fck the dead whats of paramount importance is defending your side and apportioning blame elsewhere.
its clear that a few of you do not care about lives of any colour..all you care about is your agenda

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

I've just taken this from an archive of the Black Lives Matter website from June 2019. https://web.archive.org/web/20190605234 ... e-believe/

"We returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many."

They changed the language of their website when it came under greater scrutiny.

Make of that what you will.

I refer you to your post about the Looters/Murders being BLM. WHERE is you proof? and the way you state things to enhance your own Position. How about the smallest States in the USA to justify that covid deaths were false. How about your assertations that institutional racism doesn't exist because , "We blew that ship out of the water on this forum".

Who do you think you are to make claims like that?? You are delusional and have a severe problem with Black society and equality. If you are suffering from these delusions of grandeur then i truly hope you can get professional help because i have no ill will towards people who need and probably merit help.

Institutional racism doesn't exist, We blew that ship out of the water on this forum". jesus save us. Please keep taking the medication



You are A right wing nasty who probably uses the saying, "i haven't got a racist bone in my body but........."

Here you go I already have the post ready for you because you're asking the same shite you asked before.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=219041&start=60

Now if you can find one quote. Any quote where I have ever said anything racist, get it up and with a link.

Otherwise, f**k off because you are making yourself look like a right nob throwing around baseless accusations without any grounds whatsoever.

Oh and you quoted the wrong post as well. Moron.

So Institutional Racism doesn't Exist?? That in itself is one of the most racist statements i've heard in a long time. How about denying the metrics on stop and search being heavily weighted in favour of the number of Blacks Being stopped. You deny a problem coz you were stopped and searched outside a tube station on a Friday night! All commentators say that stop and search is used disproportionately against Blacks but you, who discovered institutional racism don't exist deny it it.

One again this is evidence to back up my claims about you and on top of all that you called me a MORON. OMG you have found me out!!!!! I need some of your medication.

Seriously as i said, if you are getting professional; help and if this forum is part of your therapy i do wish you well and hope you can find a calm place in your mind where all are born equal under god. PS keep swearing, i love it xx

I actually do suffer from mental health issues not that it has anything to do with you at all.

I've been open about that on this forum before. However, I choose not to be a victim. I choose not to let my disability define me.

The fact that you choose to belittle someone over a mental disability says plenty about you though.

You've shown yourself to be a deeply racist in previous posts, firstly by claiming a black man and a white man cannot see a shared view of the world and also quite bizzarely taking umbrage at me saying that racial segregation was a bad thing. .

Now you've shown yourself to be a bigot, by mocking someone with a mental illness.

You must be really proud of yourself.

"So Institutional racism doesn't exist", that statement is one of the most racist remarks i've heard in a long while. Stop and Search is no problem because you got stopped and searched outside a tube station on a Friday Night. I NEVER SAID black and white cant see a shared view of the world. Once again you choose to twist and distort to advance your own agenda. I said, "A WHITE PERSON CANNOT SEE THE WORLD THROUGH A BLACK PERSONS EYES". Do you even know what that means?? Again you are showing your racist traits. You cannot see the prejudice that I or millions of Blacks have endured because you are white. Nothing more and nothing less.

If you don't realise how offensive some of your post are or would be to black people, then that is why i thought you were on therapy. As it was you confirmed my suspicions and in no way would i seek to mock anyone with any health problems. My niece recently took her own life leaving 2 young children so i know only too well the hurt and truth behind mental health issues.

You keep playing to your happy clappers and posting your offensive bile but you need to realise something.... WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THE LOOTERS/MURDERERS were BLM. Until that sort of attitude is changed, there will be problems. Good thing BLM changed their website hey. Gosh they were lucky to duck that one

I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."

I've just taken this from an archive of the Black Lives Matter website from June 2019. https://web.archive.org/web/20190605234 ... e-believe/

"We returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many."

They changed the language of their website when it came under greater scrutiny.

Make of that what you will.

I refer you to your post about the Looters/Murders being BLM. WHERE is you proof? and the way you state things to enhance your own Position. How about the smallest States in the USA to justify that covid deaths were false. How about your assertations that institutional racism doesn't exist because , "We blew that ship out of the water on this forum".

Who do you think you are to make claims like that?? You are delusional and have a severe problem with Black society and equality. If you are suffering from these delusions of grandeur then i truly hope you can get professional help because i have no ill will towards people who need and probably merit help.

Institutional racism doesn't exist, We blew that ship out of the water on this forum". jesus save us. Please keep taking the medication



You are A right wing nasty who probably uses the saying, "i haven't got a racist bone in my body but........."

Here you go I already have the post ready for you because you're asking the same shite you asked before.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=219041&start=60

Now if you can find one quote. Any quote where I have ever said anything racist, get it up and with a link.

Otherwise, f**k off because you are making yourself look like a right nob throwing around baseless accusations without any grounds whatsoever.

Oh and you quoted the wrong post as well. Moron.

So Institutional Racism doesn't Exist?? That in itself is one of the most racist statements i've heard in a long time. How about denying the metrics on stop and search being heavily weighted in favour of the number of Blacks Being stopped. You deny a problem coz you were stopped and searched outside a tube station on a Friday night! All commentators say that stop and search is used disproportionately against Blacks but you, who discovered institutional racism don't exist deny it it.

One again this is evidence to back up my claims about you and on top of all that you called me a MORON. OMG you have found me out!!!!! I need some of your medication.

Seriously as i said, if you are getting professional; help and if this forum is part of your therapy i do wish you well and hope you can find a calm place in your mind where all are born equal under god. PS keep swearing, i love it xx

I actually do suffer from mental health issues not that it has anything to do with you at all.

I've been open about that on this forum before. However, I choose not to be a victim. I choose not to let my disability define me.

The fact that you choose to belittle someone over a mental disability says plenty about you though.

You've shown yourself to be a deeply racist in previous posts, firstly by claiming a black man and a white man cannot see a shared view of the world and also quite bizzarely taking umbrage at me saying that racial segregation was a bad thing. .

Now you've shown yourself to be a bigot, by mocking someone with a mental illness.

You must be really proud of yourself.

"So Institutional racism doesn't exist", that statement is one of the most racist remarks i've heard in a long while. Stop and Search is no problem because you got stopped and searched outside a tube station on a Friday Night. I NEVER SAID black and white cant see a shared view of the world. Once again you choose to twist and distort to advance your own agenda. I said, "A WHITE PERSON CANNOT SEE THE WORLD THROUGH A BLACK PERSONS EYES". Do you even know what that means?? Again you are showing your racist traits. You cannot see the prejudice that I or millions of Blacks have endured because you are white. Nothing more and nothing less.

If you don't realise how offensive some of your post are or would be to black people, then that is why i thought you were on therapy. As it was you confirmed my suspicions and in no way would i seek to mock anyone with any health problems. My niece recently took her own life leaving 2 young children so i know only too well the hurt and truth behind mental health issues.

You keep playing to your happy clappers and posting your offensive bile but you need to realise something.... WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THE LOOTERS/MURDERERS were BLM. Until that sort of attitude is changed, there will be problems. Good thing BLM changed their website hey. Gosh they were lucky to duck that one

your niece took her own life yet you mocked mental health issues.... you did....it was 100% an attempted put down and ridicule... christ sake give yourself a shake ...having a relative suffer should really push you away from that instead you think it somehow gives you license